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		Here's something to get the Whedonites all fired up: "Does Firefly Take Place In The Same Universe As Prometheus?" (neatorama.com)		87
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BroVinny		2012-05-23 02:46:15 PM

Short answer: No. Long answer: Prometheus is being allowed to complete its story--what do you think?

BroVinny		2012-05-23 02:47:58 PM

Of course, now that I've read the article, I may have to reconsider.

Lost Thought 00		2012-05-23 02:49:41 PM

Or perhaps a director only has so many original ideas and so finds himself recycling the same shtick over and over in all his movies?

Alphax		2012-05-23 02:49:46 PM

Uh oh. I think I heard a geek gauntlet thrown down.

PanicMan		2012-05-23 02:50:19 PM

Or maybe a director just did a cool homage to a thing he liked.

Everyone's been stealing from Aliens forever. This is nothing new.

Vacation Bible School		2012-05-23 02:52:32 PM

well, by that logic Firefly also existed in the same universe as Battlestar Galactica. Were the Reavers really Cylons? Is that what this is telling us?

www.whedon.info

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Erix		2012-05-23 02:52:37 PM

Lost Thought 00: Or perhaps a director only has so many original ideas and so finds himself recycling the same shtick over and over in all his movies?

Uh.. what? Which director are you referring to?

FuturePastNow		2012-05-23 02:52:37 PM

No. No it does not. Next question?

Jim from Saint Paul		2012-05-23 02:52:59 PM

Question: Will this take time from arguing whether Star Wars or Star Trek tech is better? I only have so many minutes in the day.

spcMike		2012-05-23 02:53:22 PM

It was mentioned in season 5 of Angel that Weyland Yutani was a client of Wolfram and Hart.

This of course assumes that the Firefly Universe is the logical extension of the Buffyverse, probably sometime after Fray, so it is possible.

Junzi Nicuzn		2012-05-23 02:55:38 PM

BroVinny: Short answer: No. Long answer: ~~Prometheus is being allowed to complete its story--what do you think?~~Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

redsquid		2012-05-23 02:55:55 PM

He's one St. Elsewhere reference away from blowing my mind!

Jim from Saint Paul		2012-05-23 02:56:37 PM

Erix: Lost Thought 00: Or perhaps a director only has so many original ideas and so finds himself recycling the same shtick over and over in all his movies?

Uh.. what? Which director are you referring to?

Alien 4 (Resurrection)'s screenplay was written by Joss Whedon.

Someone mentioned something Whedon so HIS VOICE MUST BE HEARD. DAMN THAT NO TALENT HACK AND DAMN HIS FANS FOR BEING STUPID.

You know. Fark being Fark.

MagSeven		2012-05-23 02:58:15 PM

The Terminator series........were like......prequels to The Matrix, man.
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PsyLord		2012-05-23 03:02:05 PM

/obligatory

AdolfOliverPanties		2012-05-23 03:09:45 PM

No. There are no alien lifeforms in the Firefly universe. Only humanoids.

DNRTFA

eviljimbo		2012-05-23 03:15:18 PM

since they both involve a universe that has an earth in it, yes

delathi		2012-05-23 03:21:12 PM

It all happened in the mind of Tommy Westphall

Yes.

FeedTheCollapse		2012-05-23 03:24:19 PM

I honestly can't think of a more annoying fanboy than Firefly fans. Dear lord, fark off already.

that said, I thought it was more interesting in people trying to tie Blade Runner to Prometheus because of this video. As cool as the idea is, that's not a Voight-Kampff test in the video.

Disposable Rob		2012-05-23 03:28:52 PM

delathi: It all happened in the mind of Tommy Westphall

Yes.

Wow. According to the chart, King of Queens vs Predator is plausible.

Slaves2Darkness		2012-05-23 04:06:40 PM

No. I mean really why would they set Prometheus in a failed setting? Firefly is just another failed Joss Whedon production. How many does that make now three?

BroVinny		2012-05-23 04:08:20 PM

eviljimbo: since they both involve a universe that has an earth in it, yes

I take it you utterly reject parallel universe theory, then?

/Schrödinger's cat would like a word
/and also would not like a word

ZeroCorpse		2012-05-23 04:09:03 PM

Short answer: No.

Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooo!

scarmig		2012-05-23 04:13:38 PM

give me doughnuts		2012-05-23 04:17:36 PM

Blue Sun /= Weyland-Yutani

Chthonic Echoes		2012-05-23 04:20:10 PM

give me doughnuts: Blue Sun /= Weyland-Yutani

The Weyland-Yutani logo is on the HUD of the anti-aircraft gun Mal uses in the battle of Serenity Valley. I think it was on Fark a couple of days ago.

Lego_Addict		2012-05-23 04:23:16 PM

Sure, why not? Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny live in the same universe, don't they?

hasty ambush		2012-05-23 04:30:16 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: Question: Will this take time from arguing whether Star Wars or Star Trek tech is better? I only have so many minutes in the day.

Does not matter since Babylon 5 was better than both of them

Nicholas D. Wolfwood		2012-05-23 04:30:32 PM

Reavers vs. Aliens. 'Nuff Said.

BattleFrenchie28		2012-05-23 04:43:17 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Reavers vs. Aliens. 'Nuff Said.

...How would that be different from Humans vs. Aliens?

IlGreven		2012-05-23 04:47:53 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I honestly can't think of a more annoying fanboy than Firefly fans.

Get over it. It's not coming back. You won.

skyotter		2012-05-23 04:50:35 PM

by that logic Star Trek shares a universe with Buckaroo Banzai (and possibly Thomas Pynchon's novel V.)

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Yoyodyne_Propulsion_Systems

OtherLittleGuy		2012-05-23 04:54:03 PM

Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Reavers vs. Aliens. 'Nuff Said.

Reavers would have no fear of Aliens. No contest.

/reavers, however, would run like hell from Whedonistias

Jim from Saint Paul		2012-05-23 04:56:02 PM

BattleFrenchie28: Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Reavers vs. Aliens. 'Nuff Said.

...How would that be different from Humans vs. Aliens?

Ending would be better.

salvador.hardin		2012-05-23 05:01:19 PM

FTA Now that would be one amazing crossover-the crew of the Serenity vs. a horde of bloodthirsty xenomorphs!

Article's author is fortunate enough to never have seen Alien Resurrection.

schattenteufel		2012-05-23 05:04:18 PM

Weyland-Yutani exists in several universes.

Just like Yoyodyne

hasty ambush		2012-05-23 05:09:50 PM

Disposable Rob: delathi: It all happened in the mind of Tommy Westphall

Yes.

Wow. According to the chart, King of Queens vs Predator is plausible.

Jedi vs Predator vs Terminator vs Technomage vs Alien vs Borg vs Reavers vs a Blade Runner vs River Tam vs Rangers (B-5)

Zombie DJ		2012-05-23 05:20:22 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I honestly can't think of a more annoying fanboy than Firefly fans.

I can.
People that it bothers so much they biatch about it every chance they get.

jackmalice		2012-05-23 05:24:29 PM

This is nothing. Detective John Munch from "Homicide" was in episodes of both Law & Order and The X-Files. That means Law & Order is in the same universe as the X-Files.

Tyrone Slothrop		2012-05-23 05:24:39 PM

skyotter: by that logic Star Trek shares a universe with Buckaroo Banzai (and possibly Thomas Pynchon's novel V.)

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Yoyodyne_Propulsion_Systems

Supposedly the writer of Buckaroo Banzai got the name Yoyodyne from The Crying of Lot 49, so it would connect with several Pynchon books.

INeedAName		2012-05-23 05:24:43 PM

I think all movies who share actors also shave universes. Thus Terminator, Aliens, Navy Seals, The Abyss, The Rock, The Mag. Seven, Art of War, and Tombstone all take place in the same universe.

As a result, Art of War, the Blade series, and Passenger 57 do as well. Plus Heat, Batman Forever, Top Gun, The Saint, Twister, Apollo 13, U571, Reign of Fire, Saharra, etc....

Tyrone Slothrop		2012-05-23 05:27:00 PM

INeedAName: I think all movies who share actors also shave universes. Thus Terminator, Aliens, Navy Seals, The Abyss, The Rock, The Mag. Seven, Art of War, and Tombstone all take place in the same universe.

As a result, Art of War, the Blade series, and Passenger 57 do as well. Plus Heat, Batman Forever, Top Gun, The Saint, Twister, Apollo 13, U571, Reign of Fire, Saharra, etc....

That means that all Universes are 6 degrees (average) away from Kevin Bacon. Which means that Kevin Bacon is the center of the multiverse.

Flint Ironstag		2012-05-23 05:31:58 PM

Slaves2Darkness: No. I mean really why would they set Prometheus in a failed setting? Firefly is just another failed Joss Whedon production. How many does that make now three?

And the Buffyverse ran to 250 episodes, Buffy wasn't cancelled and the network wanted more episodes or a spin off, so that's one huge success. Which is one more than most people.

And most TV series get canned after a few episodes, or never make it to air. Dollhouse made two seasons.

Plus of course, most Whedon haters, the real fanatics, were so sure Avengers would be a huge failure, that Whedon would cock it up. How did that turn out?

skodabunny		2012-05-23 05:33:31 PM

Same logic also means Roadrunner and Wile E Coyote share the same universe as The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Acme boxes appear all over the place in that film (the bridge scene and Tuco customising a revolver spring to mind). Clearly Kubrick was a huge Looney Tunes fan.

StinkyFiddlewinks		2012-05-23 05:34:58 PM

A bored graphic designer was asked to make an interface, he or she went to the roots and came up with that answer. that's what I would have done. besides, watch the spinner takeoff sequence in Blade Runner, it's the Nostromo landing HUD in reverse. Ridley ripped himself off.

lisarenee3505		2012-05-23 05:39:16 PM

Short answer: No

Long answer: No, you phenomenally retarded nerds! Lots of writers and directors like to put nods to other work in their movies, and since Whedon also did a film in the Alien franchise, that is all this was. Plus, the folks in the Firefly universe had to use generation ships to reach the system they populated, and clearly the Alien universe has faster ships than that. Additionally, non-human species are known to exist by characters in the Alien franchise, as evidenced by the breakfast discussion of the Colonial Marines aboard the Sulaco, wherein they discuss having sex with Acturians, who are apparently hermaphroditic. In the Firefly universe there has yet to be any proof of non-human "aliens", though a space station carnival barker does try to convince people that an upside-down deformed cow fetus in a big jar of goo is such a creature.

fusillade762		2012-05-23 05:39:58 PM

spcMike: It was mentioned in season 5 of Angel that Weyland Yutani was a client of Wolfram and Hart.

This of course assumes that the Firefly Universe is the logical extension of the Buffyverse, probably sometime after Fray, so it is possible.

Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems is also a Wolfram & Hart client, iirc.

Throw in Starship Troopers as well.

www.imfdb.org

AdolfOliverPanties		2012-05-23 05:49:33 PM

Slaves2Darkness: No. I mean really why would they set Prometheus in a failed setting? Firefly is just another failed Joss Whedon production. How many does that make now three?

Well that's just silliness. All of the most celebrated writers/producers/directors of television and film have had remarkable failures.

For example, most people know David E Kelley for Picket Fences, Ally McBeal, L.A. Law, Dougie Howser MD, Chicago Hope, The Practice/Boston Legal, but do they remember Snoops, Wonder Woman, The Wedding Bells or The Brotherhood of Poland New Hampshire?

The difference here being that Kelley has some outstanding work to his credits (besides being married to Michelle Pfeifer,) but also some absolute crap.

Whedon's work has been pretty damned good, but some of it just didn't catch on. None of it was really crap.

/I don't care if it's a troll. I commented anyway.

Lernaeus		2012-05-23 05:51:36 PM

Dear Prometheus,

Let me preface this by saying I think you're really cool and I look forward to our time together; that time will definitely come. I think we'll go great together, but not if you're trying to appeal to every thing I like.

It's okay if you're not Firefly. It's okay that you're not into the Grateful Dead, barbecue, naked Sundays, expensive bourbon, vintage musical instruments, or cartography. I like you for what you are. Just be that.

So just relax. We'll see each other soon.

Signed,
Lernaeus

FeedTheCollapse		2012-05-23 05:54:19 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Whedon's work has been pretty damned good, but some of it just didn't catch on. None of it was really crap.

Counterpoint:

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