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(Fark)   One of my employees called out hungover for the past 2 days. That literally was her excuse. Not sure if I am mad or respect her for telling the truth at least. Leaning toward respect. How would you react?   (fark.com ) divider line
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2012-05-23 11:46:17 AM  
I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.
 
2012-05-23 11:46:38 AM  

Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.

 
2012-05-23 11:46:43 AM  

Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.

 
2012-05-23 11:47:02 AM  
As long as they have personal/sick days, who cares?
 
2012-05-23 11:47:08 AM  
If she had vacation or personal days to burn, well, so be it. I sure wouldn't respect it- maybe she was telling the truth, but I find it hard to respect people who go on benders like that.

If others had to pick up her slack while she got over her drinking, I'd probably be thinking that her days in the job are numbered.
 
2012-05-23 11:47:10 AM  
I'd hire her.

She clearly is awesome.
 
2012-05-23 11:47:12 AM  
Are they Australian? Because I'm told that's a legit excuse over there.

/no, seriously, people that were staying in the same hostel as me that were living there for a year had jobs and said they called in hungover and their bosses didn't mind
 
2012-05-23 11:47:47 AM  
As long as she's using her own vacation time, hey, she can do with it what she likes. If she's using sick leave, though, I think that's inappropriate.
 
2012-05-23 11:48:18 AM  

eyehate: Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.


Actually you can't fire someone for that. Alcoholism is considered a disability. If she really wanted to push it, she would have to go to rehab or something but you cannot fire her for it. It's freaking stupid but, that is the way it is.
 
2012-05-23 11:49:09 AM  
I work my guys like rented mules when they are hungover. If they called in hungover, I'd fire them.
 
2012-05-23 11:50:00 AM  

akula: but I find it hard to respect people who go on benders like that.


You don't know why she did it. Maybe she is going through some tough shiat right now and that's her way of dealing with it.
 
2012-05-23 11:50:15 AM  
I would ask her what time she starts drinking and what she likes to drink and then SURPRISE BUTTSEX
 
2012-05-23 11:50:42 AM  
Don't get me wrong, I've never called in hungover, I'm not a pussy.
 
2012-05-23 11:50:53 AM  

will_2679: eyehate: Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.

Actually you can't fire someone for that. Alcoholism is considered a disability. If she really wanted to push it, she would have to go to rehab or something but you cannot fire her for it. It's freaking stupid but, that is the way it is.


At will state you can fire for any or no reason.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:13 AM  
I would guess it's time for an office party and see if you can get her drunk and get lucky in the conference room.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:17 AM  
I'd fark her.

Drunk chicks are easy.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:24 AM  

Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.


will_2679: Actually you can't fire someone for that. Alcoholism is considered a disability. If she really wanted to push it, she would have to go to rehab or something but you cannot fire her for it. It's freaking stupid but, that is the way it is.


Alcoholics don't call in sick, they show up hungover and unclean, because by God, they can do their job under any circumstances. Now, they might call into work with a BS excuse because they are still drunk, but in my experience, alcoholics always show up to work, because if they can still hold a 9-5 job, they're not really alcoholics.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:35 AM  
You sound like a formidable pillar of leadership.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:41 AM  
Is she hot?

She sounds like she may be easy.

You can send her my EIP.
 
2012-05-23 11:51:52 AM  

myschief: will_2679: eyehate: Aarontology: I'd fire her.

She clearly doesn't need the job.

Actually you can't fire someone for that. Alcoholism is considered a disability. If she really wanted to push it, she would have to go to rehab or something but you cannot fire her for it. It's freaking stupid but, that is the way it is.

At will state you can fire for any or no reason.


Not for a disability, which is what she can claim. I really doubt she is smart enough to do it right, but I know people who have done that and I live in a right to work state.
 
2012-05-23 11:52:02 AM  
I'd fire her. After she finally dragged her sorry butt to work one last time.
 
2012-05-23 11:52:09 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: if they can still hold a 9-5 job, they're not really alcoholics.


This is actually true I'm hoping.
 
2012-05-23 11:52:32 AM  

myschief: At will state you can fire for any or no reason.


I didn't think they could if it violated the Americans with Disability Act. If you've established your alcoholism as a disability (i.e. rehabs, talking with employer, etc.) I thought you were protected.


/And seriously, green?
 
2012-05-23 11:52:58 AM  

LlamaGirl: I'd fark her.

Drunk chicks are easy.


Did you really beat me with the "easy" line?
 
2012-05-23 11:53:03 AM  
I would react by not placing the judgment on her for any reason. Listen we all have the personal demons of the selves of us and sure this is the Fark.com so sometimes people will just judge for the fun of being the judgmental person but perhaps if you took the chance to get to know this coworker of you you would see that there is likely the reason behind the behavior of her. Perhaps she is suffering from depression and this is really the only humorous outlet she finds in the life of her? Or perhaps she is going through some home troubles and decided to begin the drinking as the simple outlet for coping with this. Maybe this would explain why sometimes she is more angry than other times. Have you approached her or merely ignored her and hoped that she would be the one to go away? Try to have further understanding and then you can be the enlightened individual instead of one who does the judgment just to be the ass.
 
2012-05-23 11:53:46 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: because if they can still hold a 9-5 job, they're not really alcoholics


They're functional alcoholics, and some can keep that up for years, but most don't.
 
2012-05-23 11:53:54 AM  

tuna fingers: Did you really beat me with the "easy" line?


I sho' did! Whatcha gonna do bout it?
 
2012-05-23 11:53:57 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: Alcoholics don't call in sick, they show up hungover and unclean, because by God, they can do their job under any circumstances. Now, they might call into work with a BS excuse because they are still drunk, but in my experience, alcoholics always show up to work, because if they can still hold a 9-5 job, they're not really alcoholics.


That's more of a functional alcoholic, right there.

Not that anyone on Fark would know anything about that.
 
2012-05-23 11:54:05 AM  
American sensibilities towards drinking still confuse and perturb me.
 
2012-05-23 11:54:06 AM  
Does this mean that Ivan DeJesus is coming back too??
 
2012-05-23 11:54:10 AM  

babysealclubber: As long as they have personal/sick days, who cares?


Over in the third.
 
2012-05-23 11:54:12 AM  
I would react by documenting the shiat out of everything the employee does from now on.
 
2012-05-23 11:54:58 AM  
One day maaaaaybe. But two in a row? That's a problem.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:07 AM  
Well, as long as they're not exceeding whatever your company's time off policy is, who cares.

Hell, you may want to let it slide just to get invited to whatever kick-ass parties she's going to that cause a two-day hangover.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:14 AM  
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Two days off for a hangover? Are those things really that bad?

Let's continue drinking so we never have to find out.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:19 AM  
When she uses up all of her PTO, wait for her to come in hungover and take her out for BBQ. Greasy nasty BBQ.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:22 AM  
two days??

Maybe she doesn't know what "hungover" means. Maybe she think it means ... "hung over a toilet with food poisoning" ? eh?

idk
 
2012-05-23 11:55:38 AM  

R.A.Danny: babysealclubber: As long as they have personal/sick days, who cares?

Over in the third.


I agree with this. So, what if she went out for a special occasion and over did it? She's at least telling the truth, and a good functional alcoholic wouldn't have this issue. My guess is that it's a one off thing.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:48 AM  
It's simple.

We kill your employee.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:53 AM  

ThreeEdgedSword: American sensibilities towards drinking still confuse and perturb me.


It's ok to drink all the time, just not as long as you drink all the time. It confuses me too.
 
2012-05-23 11:57:13 AM  

Mrs.Sharpier: two days??

Maybe she doesn't know what "hungover" means. Maybe she think it means ... "hung over a toilet with food poisoning" ? eh?

idk


Yeah I've had a bad hangover before but two days? Maybe she got alcohol poisoning.
 
2012-05-23 11:57:19 AM  

vernterv: Does this mean that Ivan DeJesus is coming back too??


He is back .. sort of.
www.baseball-almanac.com4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-05-23 11:57:46 AM  
No big deal around here. Told my boss this morning I was getting drunk tonight and not coming in tomorrow or Friday.
He said have fun!
 
2012-05-23 11:57:49 AM  

babysealclubber: myschief: At will state you can fire for any or no reason.

I didn't think they could if it violated the Americans with Disability Act. If you've established your alcoholism as a disability (i.e. rehabs, talking with employer, etc.) I thought you were protected.


/And seriously, green?


My last company we fired someone that was an alcoholic. It was because she used up all of her sick/vacation time and still called out sick. It was in NY, an at will state.
 
2012-05-23 11:57:54 AM  

moogrum: vernterv: Does this mean that Ivan DeJesus is coming back too??

He is back .. sort of.
[www.baseball-almanac.com image 220x310][4.bp.blogspot.com image 288x400]


Ha!
 
2012-05-23 11:58:21 AM  
I'd respect her for being honest about the first day. The fact that it's been for 2 days in a row would cost her some respect for repeating the mistake. People overdo it once in a while, but you've got to learn from your mistake. If she's an uncontrollable alcoholic and that's what is causing this then she needs to seek help.

babysealclubber: As long as they have personal/sick days, who cares?


More or less this though.
 
2012-05-23 11:58:32 AM  
I'm sure your other employees love the fact that you're excusing her from doing her job, thus making them have to work harder because you're too much of a pussy to fire Ms. "Alcohol is more important than work"

Or maybe they'll learn you allow "I'm hungover" as an excuse to play hooky and start doing it themselves.
 
2012-05-23 11:58:56 AM  
I'd rather that than the "food poisoning" excuse, so weak.
 
2012-05-23 11:59:25 AM  
Reward her honesty with a gift basket of top shelf liquors.

Old Grandad, Pepe Lopez, Jim Beam and Southern Comfort.
 
2012-05-23 11:59:34 AM  
OK, I somehow got a TFD thread green....awesome, first one

/subby
//we have personal days, combined sick/vacation days.
 
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