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(The Atlantic)   "SNL needs to update itself and let go of old television parodies"   (theatlantic.com ) divider line
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2012-05-23 03:40:10 PM  
2 votes:

ScreamingLemur46: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

SNL has been lame ever since Steve Martin left the cast.


Steve Martin : Not Ready For Prime-Time Players :: Benjamin Franklin : American Presidents
2012-05-23 12:20:54 PM  
2 votes:

DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.


for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.
2012-05-23 10:31:41 AM  
2 votes:
Kristen Wiig leaving is an upgrade
2012-05-23 08:33:39 PM  
1 vote:

mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray



I seriously don't understand the hate for Del Ray.

Here's a list of acts that were worse than her this season:

Lady Antebellum
Drake
Maroon 5
Robyn
Michael Bublé
Kelly Clarkson
Bon Iver
Karmin
Sleigh Bells
One Direction
Rihanna
Usher
2012-05-23 05:48:08 PM  
1 vote:

hubcity: ScreamingLemur46: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

SNL has been lame ever since Steve Martin left the cast.

Steve Martin : Not Ready For Prime-Time Players :: Benjamin Franklin : American Presidents


He may not have been president, but ol' Benny's the face on the hundred dollar bill.

I say he won.
2012-05-23 05:43:07 PM  
1 vote:

chapman: I'm afraid this election season will be weak for SNL. They won't touch Obama and Romney is boring. Biden might be good for some material, I'm just hoping the GOP Veep selection will be good for some comedy.


BS. Like we said before, they may try to mock Obama, but that's not easy. His character just doesn't allow for good jokes. Like him or hate him, its just not easy to write jokes about him.

Romney is boring?!? He's a goldmine for skits.

Also being boring can be good skit fodder. See: Dana Carvey doing GW Bush in the late 80's.
2012-05-23 05:24:45 PM  
1 vote:

downstairs: Anyone who's watched SNL for a few decades (I started watching when Eddie Murphy was on) knows it goes in waves. Terrible stuff for 4-5 years, great stuff for 4-5 years, repeat...


They seem to peak around election years. I've always thought they were at their best doing political satire.
2012-05-23 04:49:38 PM  
1 vote:
Anyone who's watched SNL for a few decades (I started watching when Eddie Murphy was on) knows it goes in waves. Terrible stuff for 4-5 years, great stuff for 4-5 years, repeat...
2012-05-23 04:20:04 PM  
1 vote:
The author does have a point, but he misses his own point.

I think a lot of the TV parodies are too obscure. They're clearly shots at some sort of local ethnic programming in the greater NYC area that 94% of America is completely disconnected from.

Anytime I see Fred Armisen with a mustache speaking Spanish on a phony talk show skit, I just go get something to drink, or visit the restroom. I usually miss a Maya Rudolph cameo in a ridiculous outfit.

/that said - "What Up With That" - which clearly fits into the genre described above - is amusing to me.
//Come to think of it - Perspectives with Lionel Osbourne was good as well.
///Maybe I just don't like Armisen and Rudolph.
2012-05-23 04:10:45 PM  
1 vote:
They just need to cut it out with the talk show format that they seem to use with everything. Unless if they can find a way to put a twist on it and not just as an avenue to show off impressions or accents or "Kristen Wiig over acts for the millionth time" (thankfully she's gone from the show).

The writing is just flat out lazy most of the time. They only seem to go all out when the host is either a former SNL cast member or Alec Baldwin/Jon Hamm/Steve Martin/Emma Stone/Christopher Walken. Then again, the Will Ferrell episode was painfully average.
2012-05-23 03:08:05 PM  
1 vote:

ricewater_stool: mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray


I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.



Yeah, but this made it all worth it.

i2.cdn.turner.com
2012-05-23 02:56:54 PM  
1 vote:

mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray



I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.
2012-05-23 02:27:29 PM  
1 vote:
SNL runs into the same problems that Weird Al does. It's hard to parody things as people's entertainment choices become more varied. Parody without knowledge of the source material doesn't work, which limits SNL's options, and rarely do Internet items reach that broad of an audience until they hit meme status, by which point they are played out in many people's minds.
2012-05-23 02:06:35 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


twistedsifter.sifter.netdna-cdn.com

Probably the closest to an all-star cast.

My biggest problem with SNL is that they have long forgotten how to end a damn skit. It sure seems like they have a clever idea for a skit, but can't figure out what to do with it. There are way too many skits that go on for too long and then just fade out.
2012-05-23 01:23:36 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


While I agree with that (Buck Henry was never funny, not even once), the rest of what Django said is also very true. SNL served a social function apart from entertainment in the beginning. It was counter-cultural. Now it is formulaic and shallow, just like the rest of network tv, and only serves to fill up an ad slot on Saturday nights.
2012-05-23 12:37:54 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


You're not wrong, but FWIW I think they had more 'hits' back with the first
cast than misses. I think they had a better bench of writers for that cast than
in later years.
2012-05-23 11:18:27 AM  
1 vote:
For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

It started as a reaction against the staid, institutional comedy variety shows that
were a staple of TV at the time, but it has become the very thing that it railed
against. It was 'edgy' when the term was something more than just marketing
weasel speak, but it should just be allowed to finish withering away.
2012-05-23 10:29:27 AM  
1 vote:
What's up with that?
2012-05-23 10:19:09 AM  
1 vote:
Hey look, its that same article about SNL that's been written for 30 years.
 
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