If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Atlantic)   "SNL needs to update itself and let go of old television parodies"   (theatlantic.com) divider line 71
    More: Obvious, human beings, SNL, Jason Sudeikis, Dana Carvey, Bill Hader, Lonely Island, Gilda Radner, Deschanel  
•       •       •

3991 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 23 May 2012 at 1:15 PM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



71 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all
 
2012-05-23 10:19:09 AM
Hey look, its that same article about SNL that's been written for 30 years.
 
2012-05-23 10:29:27 AM
What's up with that?
 
2012-05-23 10:31:41 AM
Kristen Wiig leaving is an upgrade
 
2012-05-23 10:44:29 AM
Really?
 
2012-05-23 11:07:16 AM
If you want to see more lampooning of YouTube,go to YouTube. Problem solved.
 
2012-05-23 11:18:27 AM
For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

It started as a reaction against the staid, institutional comedy variety shows that
were a staple of TV at the time, but it has become the very thing that it railed
against. It was 'edgy' when the term was something more than just marketing
weasel speak, but it should just be allowed to finish withering away.
 
2012-05-23 11:55:41 AM

Deadfeznt: Kristen Wiig leaving is an upgrade


Yes. It is.
I'd like to see Sudekis stay but I don't give two shiats about Adam Sandler Jr. Andy Samberg.

I hope Jay Pharaoh gets promoted to main cast, gets utilized, and Lorne Michaels doesn't wind up with Jean Doumanian on his face.
 
2012-05-23 12:20:54 PM

DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.


for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.
 
2012-05-23 12:37:54 PM

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


You're not wrong, but FWIW I think they had more 'hits' back with the first
cast than misses. I think they had a better bench of writers for that cast than
in later years.
 
2012-05-23 01:19:46 PM
media.tumblr.com
"Sorry, we're out of time."

Oh Yes you are... Yes you are.
 
2012-05-23 01:23:36 PM

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


While I agree with that (Buck Henry was never funny, not even once), the rest of what Django said is also very true. SNL served a social function apart from entertainment in the beginning. It was counter-cultural. Now it is formulaic and shallow, just like the rest of network tv, and only serves to fill up an ad slot on Saturday nights.
 
2012-05-23 01:24:24 PM
maybe an Exile on Main Street parody set in a puke-stained mansion along the French Riviera?

Yeah. Exile is only 40 years old. Tell us some more about hopelessly stuck in the past.

Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.
 
2012-05-23 01:35:46 PM
If SNL airs, but nobody watches it, does it still exist?
 
2012-05-23 01:36:51 PM

barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.


Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray
 
2012-05-23 01:39:29 PM
FTFA - The attention that SNL lavished on television shows this season seems stranger given the show's indifference to the Internet. The only two recent sketches that engaged with cyberspace took the form of, yes, televised talk shows. "The Comments Section" shamed and then physically assaulted three stereotypically pompous basement-dwellers for their inane online musings, while "You Can Do Anything!" lampooned the delusional aspirations of the so-called YouTube generation. There's a telling exchange between the two hosts, a photoblogger (Vanessa Bayer) and independent filmmaker (Bill Hader), and their third guest, an Irish-dancing calligrapher named Brad (Daniel Radcliffe):

Bill Hader: Brad, backstage you were confused and upset because our producers didn't know who you were.

Daniel Radcliffe: Oh, correct. You see, I posted a video of myself online, and 1,000 people have watched it. Therefore, I assume everyone knows my name and admires my work.

Vannessa Bayer: It's almost as though you consider yourself a star, even though you're shockingly unfamous.

Daniel Radcliffe: And untalented.

While amusing, the underlying message is that if Radcliffe's talents were commensurate with his self-regard, his work would appear on television, not merely on the Internet. This dismissive attitude toward user-generated online content helps explain why Saturday Night Live spent more airtime skewering 1960s-era television shows-three instances of the Password-inspired game show "Secret Word," and two instances of "The Lawrence Welk Show"-than the medium that more and more people now turn to for entertainment.


Holy sh*t. The author is reading waaaaaaaay too much into a silly dumb sketch about internet commenters.
 
2012-05-23 01:46:38 PM
What TV needs is more internet content? No.
 
2012-05-23 01:46:55 PM
leaving SNL hasn't really worked for most. yeah, mike myers had a good run but he hasn't made a good movie in 10 years and i think is still going to flog Austin Powers one more time. Will Ferrell had a few hits but his last few movies have been box office death.

cheri oteri supposedly left to get her own sitcom. whoops. maya rudolph, that mary katehrine gallagher chick, that mango dude......there's a lot more examples of folks not making it then there are successes. and even the "successes" have a spotty track record in the modern era.

i will always watch SNL. i don't get why people douche on it all teh time. i don;'t like the simpsons and ahven't watched in years. doesn't mean i run into every simpsons thread and talk about how much it sucks.
 
2012-05-23 02:06:35 PM

FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.


twistedsifter.sifter.netdna-cdn.com

Probably the closest to an all-star cast.

My biggest problem with SNL is that they have long forgotten how to end a damn skit. It sure seems like they have a clever idea for a skit, but can't figure out what to do with it. There are way too many skits that go on for too long and then just fade out.
 
2012-05-23 02:27:29 PM
SNL runs into the same problems that Weird Al does. It's hard to parody things as people's entertainment choices become more varied. Parody without knowledge of the source material doesn't work, which limits SNL's options, and rarely do Internet items reach that broad of an audience until they hit meme status, by which point they are played out in many people's minds.
 
2012-05-23 02:31:19 PM

rickythepenguin: leaving SNL hasn't really worked for most. yeah, mike myers had a good run but he hasn't made a good movie in 10 years and i think is still going to flog Austin Powers one more time. Will Ferrell had a few hits but his last few movies have been box office death.

cheri oteri supposedly left to get her own sitcom. whoops. maya rudolph, that mary katehrine gallagher chick, that mango dude......there's a lot more examples of folks not making it then there are successes. and even the "successes" have a spotty track record in the modern era.

i will always watch SNL. i don't get why people douche on it all teh time. i don;'t like the simpsons and ahven't watched in years. doesn't mean i run into every simpsons thread and talk about how much it sucks.


Julia Sweeney's one-woman shows are actually really good. It's a shame they aren't as popular as they could be. Letting go of God is funny, honest, depressing and uplifting all at once.
 
2012-05-23 02:43:00 PM
Needs more slutbell.

static.neatoshop.com

This and other fine products available at a Fark Store on an internet near you.
 
2012-05-23 02:45:52 PM
So SNL needs to stop doing what it's been doing for 37 years? Seems like sound advice.
 
2012-05-23 02:46:52 PM
SNL doesn't know about the internet? Excuse me?

Jimmy Fallon had a recurring sketch about a video podcast/blog which featured the Smoketron 2000 robot.

Until the Smoketron 2000 got high on some nasty stuff, got paranoid, panicked and fell out the dorm window.

/this will...ummm...really...umm...freak your bean
 
2012-05-23 02:56:54 PM

mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray



I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.
 
2012-05-23 02:57:00 PM

GameSprocket: My biggest problem with SNL is that they have long forgotten how to end a damn skit. It sure seems like they have a clever idea for a skit, but can't figure out what to do with it. There are way too many skits that go on for too long and then just fade out.


This is one of the pitfalls of the artistic decision that was made way back during the show's creation not to send sketches with a "button" like Laugh-In did. Lorne wanted to set the style of SNL apart from the more traditional sketch comedy shows, but the downside is, yeah, some sketches just go nowhere and then peter out.

It's funny that the author claims SNL has no awareness of the internet when the weekly SNL Digital Shorts are all about internet awareness and exposure.
 
2012-05-23 03:08:05 PM

ricewater_stool: mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray


I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.



Yeah, but this made it all worth it.

i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-05-23 03:08:21 PM

DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.


SNL has been lame ever since Steve Martin left the cast.
 
2012-05-23 03:20:54 PM
I used to like SNL, until Phil Hartman took an arrow to the knee
 
2012-05-23 03:21:07 PM

Sybarite: ricewater_stool: mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray


I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.


Yeah, but this made it all worth it.

[i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]



Anything with Timberlake in it is gold.
 
2012-05-23 03:40:10 PM

ScreamingLemur46: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

SNL has been lame ever since Steve Martin left the cast.


Steve Martin : Not Ready For Prime-Time Players :: Benjamin Franklin : American Presidents
 
2012-05-23 03:45:39 PM
Yes, a TELEVISION SHOW should totally stop parodying TELEVISION SHOWS.
Because their audience is just completely unfamiliar with the source material and will have no idea what's going on, right?

The best spoof of the internet I've seen was on the Chappelle show.
 
2012-05-23 03:51:19 PM

Sybarite: ricewater_stool: mjohnson71: barneyfifesbullet: Jagger was great and the music was really great. Best SNL ep this season.

Jagger+Arcade Fire+Foo Fighters+Jeff Beck still doesn't make up for Lana Del Ray


I thought Bon Iver was actually worse than Lana Del Rey. This had to have been the worst season ever for musical guests.


Yeah, but this made it all worth it.

[i2.cdn.turner.com image 640x360]


"I just fashioned this guitar out of a canoe."


Hilarious sketch.
 
2012-05-23 04:00:00 PM

Sybarite: What's up with that?


One of the sketches that I fast forward before hearing a single word. They SUUUUUUUCK,
 
2012-05-23 04:01:58 PM
Whatever bro! I just want to make sweet, sweet love to Abby Elliott.
 
2012-05-23 04:10:45 PM
They just need to cut it out with the talk show format that they seem to use with everything. Unless if they can find a way to put a twist on it and not just as an avenue to show off impressions or accents or "Kristen Wiig over acts for the millionth time" (thankfully she's gone from the show).

The writing is just flat out lazy most of the time. They only seem to go all out when the host is either a former SNL cast member or Alec Baldwin/Jon Hamm/Steve Martin/Emma Stone/Christopher Walken. Then again, the Will Ferrell episode was painfully average.
 
2012-05-23 04:20:04 PM
The author does have a point, but he misses his own point.

I think a lot of the TV parodies are too obscure. They're clearly shots at some sort of local ethnic programming in the greater NYC area that 94% of America is completely disconnected from.

Anytime I see Fred Armisen with a mustache speaking Spanish on a phony talk show skit, I just go get something to drink, or visit the restroom. I usually miss a Maya Rudolph cameo in a ridiculous outfit.

/that said - "What Up With That" - which clearly fits into the genre described above - is amusing to me.
//Come to think of it - Perspectives with Lionel Osbourne was good as well.
///Maybe I just don't like Armisen and Rudolph.
 
2012-05-23 04:25:22 PM
I also really like the California sketch because of how sadly true it is. whenever i'm in california, 20% of any given conversation is based upon (a) where you live and (b) how you got to your destination of choice and (c) how had you taken a different route you could have saved 1.3 minutes.


Plus the over top accents. "Oh my geeeeeed? I TOOOTLAYAAAAAA LERV YAAAAA!"
 
2012-05-23 04:41:00 PM

GameSprocket: FlashHarry: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

for me, it ended when [insert cast members who were popular when you were in your 20s] left.

every cast has bad skits. every cast has bad players. sit down and watch the entire, say, 1977 season. yes, there will be classic skits, but a lot of it is unfunny bullshiat that was never aired again. the reason we look back fondly at whatever cast we love is that most of what we "remember" comes from best-of clip shows and reruns that cut out the bad stuff and stuff a 90 minute show into 60 minutes.

[twistedsifter.sifter.netdna-cdn.com image 640x480]

Probably the closest to an all-star cast.

My biggest problem with SNL is that they have long forgotten how to end a damn skit. It sure seems like they have a clever idea for a skit, but can't figure out what to do with it. There are way too many skits that go on for too long and then just fade out.


Not ending a skit well has been their issue forever. Of course, no one has ever figured out how to end a sketch on a show like this, with the exception of Monty Python.
 
2012-05-23 04:48:37 PM

GameSprocket: Probably the closest to an all-star cast.


100% agreed. Even though Spade, Sandler, and Carvey turned out to be annoying in future ventures... they were great on SNL.
 
2012-05-23 04:49:38 PM
Anyone who's watched SNL for a few decades (I started watching when Eddie Murphy was on) knows it goes in waves. Terrible stuff for 4-5 years, great stuff for 4-5 years, repeat...
 
2012-05-23 05:02:25 PM
I'm afraid this election season will be weak for SNL. They won't touch Obama and Romney is boring. Biden might be good for some material, I'm just hoping the GOP Veep selection will be good for some comedy.
 
2012-05-23 05:24:45 PM

downstairs: Anyone who's watched SNL for a few decades (I started watching when Eddie Murphy was on) knows it goes in waves. Terrible stuff for 4-5 years, great stuff for 4-5 years, repeat...


They seem to peak around election years. I've always thought they were at their best doing political satire.
 
2012-05-23 05:28:26 PM

chapman: I'm afraid this election season will be weak for SNL. They won't touch Obama and Romney is boring. Biden might be good for some material, I'm just hoping the GOP Veep selection will be good for some comedy.


Really? They go after Obama all the time. And Romney gets mocked and parodied on Fark all the damn time. Romneybot, out of touch rich guy, oblivious to the point of being the Monopoly guy, and makes more gaffes and flip flops on positions than one can't count.

Hell, his "I'll take a lot of credit for that" BS could easily cover a good 8 minute skit.
 
2012-05-23 05:29:32 PM

Shadowknight: downstairs: Anyone who's watched SNL for a few decades (I started watching when Eddie Murphy was on) knows it goes in waves. Terrible stuff for 4-5 years, great stuff for 4-5 years, repeat...

They seem to peak around election years. I've always thought they were at their best doing political satire.



Agreed. The '08-'09 season is in my DVD library.
 
2012-05-23 05:43:07 PM

chapman: I'm afraid this election season will be weak for SNL. They won't touch Obama and Romney is boring. Biden might be good for some material, I'm just hoping the GOP Veep selection will be good for some comedy.


BS. Like we said before, they may try to mock Obama, but that's not easy. His character just doesn't allow for good jokes. Like him or hate him, its just not easy to write jokes about him.

Romney is boring?!? He's a goldmine for skits.

Also being boring can be good skit fodder. See: Dana Carvey doing GW Bush in the late 80's.
 
2012-05-23 05:46:15 PM

GameSprocket:

[twistedsifter.sifter.netdna-cdn.com image 640x480]

Probably the closest to an all-star cast.t.


You are correct, sir!
 
2012-05-23 05:48:08 PM

hubcity: ScreamingLemur46: DjangoStonereaver: For me, SNL ended when Ackroyd and Belushi left.

SNL has been lame ever since Steve Martin left the cast.

Steve Martin : Not Ready For Prime-Time Players :: Benjamin Franklin : American Presidents


He may not have been president, but ol' Benny's the face on the hundred dollar bill.

I say he won.
 
2012-05-23 06:13:48 PM
Great, now I have the "What up with that" song stuck in my head, and I'll have to watch 3-4 videos of it on youtube NBC.com's shiatty web player.
 
2012-05-23 06:43:30 PM
*everythingwasbetterwhenyouwere12* cartoon
 
2012-05-23 06:47:09 PM
As long as Bill Hader is still a cast member, I will continue to watch it. He is one of the few comedian's that you can put in any cast generation and he would fit in perfectly. Another example is Phil Hartman.
 
Displayed 50 of 71 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report