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2012-05-22 10:33:50 PM
Get James out of the game for some rest....
 
2012-05-22 10:34:03 PM
Does anyone else think the Spurs are playing a bit too well right now? A long win streak is great but I think they might be peaking too soon and Patriots out in the finals.
 
2012-05-22 10:35:42 PM

elguerodiablo: Does anyone else think the Spurs are playing a bit too well right now? A long win streak is great but I think they might be peaking too soon and Patriots out in the finals.


The Thunder (especially Harden) get more bullshiat calls than even the Heat. The WCF could be interesting.

Other than that, the Spurs are ridiculous, and they've got the best coach left by a mile which always helps.
 
2012-05-22 10:36:16 PM

bulldg4life: Get James out of the game for some rest....


He got a whole 4 minutes, no need for more. Get him another triple-double.

/it's not like it's particularly taxing out there right now
 
2012-05-22 10:38:39 PM
Yeah, 60% to 34%...not gonna work out well for the 34% team. Especially if they're also getting outrebounded by 14.
 
2012-05-22 10:39:27 PM
Dammit Chalmers, I know that you want to get fancy, but you had a free layup, just hit it. Don't practice doing dumb sh*t.
 
2012-05-22 10:45:10 PM
Juwan Howard is really on this team to threaten random benchwarmers from other teams.

/things that weren't mentioned that should've been
 
2012-05-22 10:49:39 PM
He should be ejected and suspended for the rest of the series
 
2012-05-22 10:49:59 PM
Eh, now Stephenson has a reason to grab his neck.

This is where Pittman belongs, garbage time delivering cheap shots, rather than starting.
 
2012-05-22 10:50:37 PM

bulldg4life: He should be ejected and suspended for the rest of the series


Make it the playoffs.
 
2012-05-22 10:51:20 PM

IAmRight: bulldg4life: He should be ejected and suspended for the rest of the series

Make it the playoffs.


eh..no loss
 
2012-05-22 10:51:57 PM
wow, he really wants to get suspended for the remainder of the playoffs. that's not even pretending. that's just a straight up elbow to the throat (or perhaps an attempt at the jaw).
 
2012-05-22 10:52:07 PM
Yes, now that I realize it is only a game or two.

Pittman should be gone til next year
 
2012-05-22 10:52:16 PM
Lebron Who?
 
2012-05-22 10:53:02 PM

The1andonlyZack: eh..no loss


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/just like "tough on crime" guys are tough on the people that don't "matter"
//f*ck, make it all of next year if you have to in order to keep Haslem from getting suspended
 
2012-05-22 11:18:03 PM

WhoIsWillo: [p.twimg.com image 541x471]


Heat fouls: 20
Pacers fouls: 21

Yeah, that was clearly the problem. That one extra foul was 30 points and 15 rebounds of difference, especially with no one being in foul trouble all game.
 
2012-05-22 11:39:14 PM
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You'd think that speaking English fluently would be a prerequisite for writing headlines at ESPN, but I guess their only concern now is not hiring any more criminals.
 
2012-05-22 11:59:47 PM

IAmRight: Hitting a dude in the face with your open hands isn't as dangerous as an elbow to the neck.


"IT ISN'T??" -Dexter Pittman
 
2012-05-23 12:10:01 AM

IAmRight: Yeah, that was clearly the problem. That one extra foul was 30 points and 15 rebounds of difference, especially with no one being in foul trouble all game.


You do realize that referees do more than just call fouls, right?

That said, I was talking more about their outright refusal to call a flagrant 2.
 
2012-05-23 09:07:36 AM

WhoIsWillo: That said, I was talking more about their outright refusal to call a flagrant 2.


Boo hoo. Keep crying, just like the Pacers, who want a physical series then get upset when the Heat get physical back.
 
2012-05-23 09:31:30 AM

IAmRight: Boo hoo. Keep crying, just like the Pacers, who want a physical series then get upset when the Heat get physical back.


It's pretty ridiculous that Pittman didn't get a Flagrant 2. It obviously wouldn't have made any difference, but that was just a cheap shot. Haslem, eh. Maybe he should have but (a) it's Hansbrough and ... well sometimes that's enough.
 
2012-05-23 09:35:40 AM

you have pee hands: It's pretty ridiculous that Pittman didn't get a Flagrant 2. It obviously wouldn't have made any difference, but that was just a cheap shot. Haslem, eh. Maybe he should have but (a) it's Hansbrough and ... well sometimes that's enough.


Yeah, but as I said earlier, suspend Pittman for the rest of the playoffs for all anyone cares. And I kinda think it should be slightly lessened because he DID get him in the neck (when it was retaliation for giving the choking sign). I reward accuracy.

When I saw more of the Haslem foul, it really does look like Haslem's just chopping down on the shoulder more and happens to get some face, rather than what I initially thought, which is both hands were going for the face.

And like you said, it's Hansbrough - if you don't want to get hit in the face, don't look like Hansbrough.
 
2012-05-23 09:48:15 AM
Larry Bird just yelled at his team and called them soft.
 
2012-05-23 09:56:11 AM

ltdanman44: Larry Bird just yelled at his team and called them soft.


If Haslem and Pittman don't get playoff suspensions, I expect the Pacers will take Bird's criticism to heart, and get their justice on the court. And that likely means James and/or Wade on crutches.

Not endorsing it, just sayin', if the egregious fouls aren't dealt with appropriately, the players find a way to sort it out.
 
2012-05-23 09:58:46 AM

Funbags: If Haslem and Pittman don't get playoff suspensions, I expect the Pacers will take Bird's criticism to heart, and get their justice on the court. And that likely means James and/or Wade on crutches.


That seems pretty silly, given that all the Heat flagrants were on worthless players for the Pacers who had specifically done something to deserve it.
 
2012-05-23 10:03:14 AM

IAmRight: Boo hoo. Keep crying, just like the Pacers, who want a physical series then get upset when the Heat get physical back.


There's a difference between playing physical and what the Heat did.
 
2012-05-23 10:13:03 AM

Funbags: If Haslem and Pittman don't get playoff suspensions, I expect the Pacers will take Bird's criticism to heart, and get their justice on the court. And that likely means James and/or Wade on crutches.

Not endorsing it, just sayin', if the egregious fouls aren't dealt with appropriately, the players find a way to sort it out.


They should probably have some scrub elbow Haslem in the face. That'll teach him.
 
2012-05-23 10:22:03 AM

WhoIsWillo: There's a difference between playing physical and what the Heat did.


Meh, the only really excessive one was Pittman's one and both players involved are worthless scrubs who will never see the floor in a competitive game.

you have pee hands: They should probably have some scrub elbow Haslem in the face. That'll teach him.


I lol'd.
 
2012-05-23 10:42:38 AM

WhoIsWillo: IAmRight: Boo hoo. Keep crying, just like the Pacers, who want a physical series then get upset when the Heat get physical back.

There's a difference between playing physical and what the Heat did.


You are right, there is a difference between playing physical and biatch-slapping the pacers literally and metaphorically.

Heat in 6. Good show Pacers. You are still soft.
 
2012-05-23 10:43:18 AM

Gunny Highway: Why is Steve Kerr all over Wade's nuts? God how I am learning to hate Dwyane.

Haslam got all ball. Eyeball.

Wakka wakka


classic.
 
2012-05-23 10:44:29 AM

IAmRight: Funbags: If Haslem and Pittman don't get playoff suspensions, I expect the Pacers will take Bird's criticism to heart, and get their justice on the court. And that likely means James and/or Wade on crutches.

That seems pretty silly, given that all the Heat flagrants were on worthless players for the Pacers who had specifically done something to deserve it.


what exactly had they done to deserve an elbow in the throat? a little trash talking? calling a choker a choker? running your mouth on or off the court shouldn't result in attempts to cause serious injuries. that was cheap and dirty, but considering that it's wade's team that's not surprising.
 
2012-05-23 10:49:22 AM

A Fark Handle: what exactly had they done to deserve an elbow in the throat? a little trash talking? calling a choker a choker? running your mouth on or off the court shouldn't result in attempts to cause serious injuries. that was cheap and dirty, but considering that it's wade's team that's not surprising.


Wrap your hands around your neck, get a reason to do it next time you're on the court.

Bring your arms down on a guy and cut his face with your fingernails, get arms brought down on your head next time you take a shot.

I'm sorry, you can't be throwing elbows, trying to flex on guys after fouling 'em like Granger, finishing fouls on a team's best players, etc. and then whine when people do something back. And sure, a bear ripping your head off is an excessive retaliation to you repeatedly poking him, but I'm not going to blame the bear for doing it. You wanted the physical series. You wanted to push the limits. Don't b*tch when it comes back around on you.
 
2012-05-23 10:50:43 AM

A Fark Handle: IAmRight: Funbags: If Haslem and Pittman don't get playoff suspensions, I expect the Pacers will take Bird's criticism to heart, and get their justice on the court. And that likely means James and/or Wade on crutches.

That seems pretty silly, given that all the Heat flagrants were on worthless players for the Pacers who had specifically done something to deserve it.

what exactly had they done to deserve an elbow in the throat? a little trash talking? calling a choker a choker? running your mouth on or off the court shouldn't result in attempts to cause serious injuries. that was cheap and dirty, but considering that it's wade's team that's not surprising.


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2012-05-23 11:21:25 AM

IAmRight: I'm sorry, you can't be throwing elbows, trying to flex on guys after fouling 'em like Granger, finishing fouls on a team's best players, etc. and then whine when people do something back. And sure, a bear ripping your head off is an excessive retaliation to you repeatedly poking him, but I'm not going to blame the bear for doing it. You wanted the physical series. You wanted to push the limits. Don't b*tch when it comes back around on you.


No, what happened was the Pacers had some hard fouls and the Heat responded by intentionally attacking Pacers players.
 
2012-05-23 11:29:54 AM

WhoIsWillo: No, what happened was the Pacers had some hard fouls and the Heat responded by intentionally attacking Pacers players.


Keep crying, just like your team.

Cry about how the Heat flop too much so hopefully the refs won't call your physical team for fouls. Cry about how you're "not going to back down" like anyone was even bothering to step to you. Granger initiated every one of those. The Pacers are acting like little men - keep taking offense to things that don't exist and trying to goad players that are better than you into fights, then get upset when they respond.

I've run into gutless players like that all the time on pickup courts. They're clowns and no one likes them. They go shoving people all the time because they don't have the talent to play with 'em and usually they get away with it because hey, if you're talented you can't afford to get ejected for retaliating.

You don't get to push and push and then cry to your mom when someone hits back.
 
2012-05-23 11:38:10 AM

IAmRight: I've run into gutless players like that all the time on pickup courts. They're clowns and no one likes them. They go shoving people all the time because they don't have the talent to play with 'em and usually they get away with it because hey, if you're talented you can't afford to get ejected for retaliating.


There a line between physical play and outright assault. The Heat crossed that line last night.
 
2012-05-23 11:40:42 AM

WhoIsWillo: There a line between physical play and outright assault. The Heat crossed that line last night.


Oh STFU with the assault bullsh*t. Was it excessive and Pittman should be suspended? Yeah. Did Stephenson ask for it by being a punk-ass b*tch? Yeah.
 
2012-05-23 12:15:26 PM
Good article on the 3 egregious fouls

The overriding point is that Hansbrough was the only one who was trying to make a play on the ball. The other 2 fouls were retaliatory, and ever since the playground days, one knows that the kid who hits back is the one who gets punished.
 
2012-05-23 12:18:00 PM

IAmRight: WhoIsWillo: There a line between physical play and outright assault. The Heat crossed that line last night.

Oh STFU with the assault bullsh*t. Was it excessive and Pittman should be suspended? Yeah. Did Stephenson ask for it by being a punk-ass b*tch? Yeah.


what he did is illegal in football. that was straight throwing an elbow without the ball in play. then after the game the heat pulling the "we don't want to see anyone injured" bullshiat. shiat the next time wade came down the lane pacers should take his head off and then just say "we don't want to see anyone injured." it was a punk-ass biatch sucker elbow. it has no place in basketball. and it turns out lebron is a choker. if james doesn't miss the freebie, stephenson doesn't have a reason to give him the choke sign. if you don't want folks giving you the choke sign when you are the best player in the nba, don't farking choke. the heat are playing bush league and should be ashamed of themselves.
 
2012-05-23 12:31:38 PM

A Fark Handle: if james doesn't miss the freebie, stephenson doesn't have a reason to give him the choke sign. if you don't want folks giving you the choke sign when you are the best player in the nba, don't farking choke.


Because missing a FT in the first half of a playoff game is choking. Maybe talentless hacks that can't even get on the court shouldn't be the ones talking trash.

A Fark Handle: shiat the next time wade came down the lane pacers should take his head off and then just say "we don't want to see anyone injured."


The Pacers have already injured one player (unintentionally, but still) and drawn blood on two more. And it's not like Wade was even in the game - if Pittman and Stephenson are in the game, that means that anyone with talent is off the court. No one is going to miss either of those chumps.

If the Heat targeted a talented player instead of the specific chumps who asked to be hit, then hey, go after their players. But since they targeted the specific people who earned it, no, there's no reason to do anything.

A Fark Handle: that was straight throwing an elbow without the ball in play.


The ball was in play - why the hell do you think Stephenson was running into the lane?

Funbags: Good article on the 3 egregious fouls


It's a bit of an overreaction on Haslem's, Hansbrough got some of Haslem's forearm in his face, but it wasn't two hands to the face, it was two hands toward the shooting arm shoulder and a face-graze with a forearm. If Haslem was aiming for his face, he certainly could've slammed it if he wanted to. And again, it's Hansbrough. He should be getting hit in the face every game out of principle.
 
2012-05-23 12:46:49 PM

IAmRight: But since they targeted the specific people who earned it, no, there's no reason to do anything.


earned it? so taunting a missed freebie earns you an attempt at serious injury? and yes, a running forearm/elbow to the throat/jaw/head is clearly an attempt at serious injury. after all, if you kill the head...
 
2012-05-23 12:51:37 PM

Funbags: Good article on the 3 egregious fouls

The overriding point is that Hansbrough was the only one who was trying to make a play on the ball. The other 2 fouls were retaliatory, and ever since the playground days, one knows that the kid who hits back is the one who gets punished.


You can make a play on the ball without hitting someone in the head with your followthrough, but by swinging his arm straight down instead of just extending it going for the block he pretty much guaranteed he was going to hit Wade over the head. It definitely wasn't accidental contact. The Haslem one was a little worse because it was retaliation, but I don't think either of those two were really dangerous. The Pittman foul was dirty as hell and should draw the kind of suspension usually reserved for the Lakers.
 
2012-05-23 12:53:16 PM

IAmRight: If the Heat targeted a talented player instead of the specific chumps who asked to be hit, then hey, go after their players. But since they targeted the specific people who earned it, no, there's no reason to do anything.


That's like saying because you posted something I don't like on Fark, that gives me the right to hit you in the kneecap with a tire iron.
 
2012-05-23 12:54:57 PM

A Fark Handle: and yes, a running forearm/elbow to the throat/jaw/head is clearly an attempt at serious injury.


I don't think Pittman's bright enough/old enough to consider that something that would cause a serious injury. When you're in your early 20s, serious injuries from things like that don't really come to your mind.

And hey, now Stephenson has a reason to grab his neck and act like he's choking. That's perfect retaliation. Pittman needs to be done for the playoffs for what he did, but yeah, Stephenson earned it.
 
2012-05-23 01:00:28 PM

WhoIsWillo: That's like saying because you posted something I don't like on Fark, that gives me the right to hit you in the kneecap with a tire iron.


Nah, but if I were to taunt you in real life, I wouldn't say you were being unfair by punching me in the face. Or if one of my friends were taunting you, I'd be fine with you punching them in the face.

you have pee hands: The Haslem one was a little worse because it was retaliation, but I don't think either of those two were really dangerous.


I don't have a problem with retaliation - I think you should be allowed to retaliate, get the same penalty, and then everyone can move on.

Pittman is a d-bag and his sh*t was unnecessary and dangerous, so he should be suspended for a nice, long while. But it's still kinda funny.
 
2012-05-23 01:11:38 PM

IAmRight: I don't have a problem with retaliation - I think you should be allowed to retaliate, get the same penalty, and then everyone can move on.


I disagree. I want to watch sports, not elbows and stupid posturing. If you allow retaliation guys keep retaliating. If you punish it more than the initial infraction you cut the problem off at the beginning. The best way for the Heat to get back at Stephenson and Granger is to demolish them on the scoreboard, not have Pittman elbow them in the neck.
 
2012-05-23 01:21:21 PM

you have pee hands: If you allow retaliation guys keep retaliating.


Nah, the Hansbrough/Haslem thing was over as soon as Haslem got his shot in. He got the guy he was supposed to get, he did it in a way that wasn't going to injure, and he did it almost immediately after.

you have pee hands: The best way for the Heat to get back at Stephenson and Granger is to demolish them on the scoreboard, not have Pittman elbow them in the neck.


I doubt the Heat had Pittman do that. The wink, to me, indicates that he thought it was the right thing to do - the problem is that he went way further than appropriate and it was two games later (because both players pretty much never play).

But that's also part of the difference between being a vet and being a young clown - Haslem's been around long enough, that you know precisely what he was doing, you know that ends it. It wasn't out of anger, it wasn't out of frustration, it wasn't out of trying to prove anything. The Stephenson thing was already ended by Howard when he went and confronted him before Game 4. Pittman just threw more logs on the fire there.

So to be clear, when I'm talking about retaliation, I'm talking about Haslem's foul, not Pittman's. Pittman's wasn't retaliation so much as flexing nuts like the Pacers have been trying to do.
 
2012-05-23 01:56:39 PM

IAmRight: Nah, but if I were to taunt you in real life, I wouldn't say you were being unfair by punching me in the face. Or if one of my friends were taunting you, I'd be fine with you punching them in the face.


So being a tough guy smart ass is only acceptable when your anonymously insulting strangers on the internet?
 
2012-05-23 01:57:47 PM

IAmRight: Nah, the Hansbrough/Haslem thing was over as soon as Haslem got his shot in. He got the guy he was supposed to get, he did it in a way that wasn't going to injure, and he did it almost immediately after.


Yeah, but you've got guys like Pittman who just don't get it. There's probably at least a couple on every team, and sooner or later someone gets Kermit Washingtoned. It's a given that officiating is going to be a little inconsistent since they're human, so I'd rather them err on the side of punishing deliberate hard fouls a little more than they need to than go soft and risk seeing guys get injured by dirty play.

I doubt the Heat had Pittman do that. The wink, to me, indicates that he thought it was the right thing to do - the problem is that he went way further than appropriate and it was two games later (because both players pretty much never play).

But that's also part of the difference between being a vet and being a young clown - Haslem's been around long enough, that you know precisely what he was doing, you know that ends it. It wasn't out of anger, it wasn't out of frustration, it wasn't out of trying to prove anything. The Stephenson thing was already ended by Howard when he went and confronted him before Game 4. Pittman just threw more logs on the fire there.

So to be clear, when I'm talking about retaliation, I'm talking about Haslem's foul, not Pittman's. Pittman's wasn't retaliation so much as flexing nuts like the Pacers have been trying to do.

Yeah, I'm sure it was Pittman's own doing, but it's still dumb as hell. You're up by 35, more of a statement are you trying to make?
 
2012-05-23 02:33:24 PM

IAmRight: So to be clear, when I'm talking about retaliation, I'm talking about Haslem's foul, not Pittman's. Pittman's wasn't retaliation so much as flexing nuts like the Pacers have been trying to do.


Let me be clear...you are clearly the biggest idiot on the Sports tab without question.

I couldn't be more disappointed in myself that I haven't put your retarded ass on ignore a long time ago
 
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