This calls for a tax cut.

Mentat: This calls for a tax cut.

And deregulation, don't forget deregulation.

nekom: Mentat: This calls for a tax cut.

And deregulation, don't forget deregulation.

And war with Iran. War always stimulates the economy.

People only now are figuring out that if you can get more from people for the same amount of money, you'll keep on doing it?

No shiat, motherfarkers. This is at least the second "jobless" recovery in a farking row. If you unlucky enough to live in Michigan, its at least the third. Turns out both public and private employers choose to make existing workers do more with less rather than hire more people. Its the new goddamn 'default.' Who the fark knew?

gee, i wonder why.

d'you think it might have something to do with the fact that we've slashed local, state, and federal government spending to the bone (which means slashing jobs) while the "loyal opposition" has been doing everything in its considerable power to try to derail any economic advances for the past four years?

as i said in another post on this subject:

Q: what's the quickest way to derail a recovery?
A: reduce government spending

1: the GOP, whose policy until january 20, 2009, was "deficits don't matter," suddenly starts freaking out about government spending and the deficit.
2: the media, eager to not appear "liberal," pushes the GOP's anti-deficit agenda, using the sudden magical appearance of the tea party as its "story"
3: the democrats, who are terrified of their own shadows, cut spending, reduce the size of the stimulus, cave in to the insurance lobby on healthcare reform, etc.
4: the GOP, not satisfied with the drag on the economy, pushes the US to the brink of default, resulting in a downgrade and a stock market decline in 2011
5: the GOP, seeing #4 worked so well, have announced that they'll not only renege on the debt limit deal, but they'll also take the US to the brink in 2012 as well.

voila: jobless recovery!

Yeah. As high as the unemployment rate in this area was, it was only about 6.75% at its worst.

As of March, it was down to 4.5% which pretty much means that anyone who actually wants to work is working.

Yes, when you compare Japan to Greece and Spain, I would rather be in Japan's position than Greece's.

Austerity doesn't work in a recession. The time for austerity is during periods of growth, when the economy can do without government spending. Unfortunately, we get "deficits don't matter".

drhansenej: As long as the rich are doing well. They are doing well, right? Because they're the job creators.

Pretty much the way it works in this area.

Somacandra: Its the new goddamn 'default.' Who the fark knew?

The last time we had a major explosion in jobs and the economy (IIRC) was when the Internet was starting to come into its own. Lots of tech companies starting up and trying to get a slice of the pie. Of course, we all know that ended in a bit of a disaster. The only thing that can shake this funk that our economy has developed is to break into a whole new industry that has some form of sustainable growth.

Enter, green energy. It's one of many potential possibilities, but I'd think we'd need more than to just create jobs by building windmills.

FlashHarry: voila: jobless recovery!

That, too.

FlashHarry: voila: jobless recovery!

This also kind of goes hand-in-hand with what I had mentioned in another thread: the GOP is pretty good at spreading its propaganda. They all but sabotage the recovery effort, then blame Obama for it. It explains his mediocre polling numbers. If Americans were more savvy, Romney wouldn't be within just a couple percentage points of Obama (depending on which polls you're looking at). They'd look at the brinksmanship of the Republican-led House last year and say, "Holy fark, those Republicans are INSANE! Do we *really* want one in the White House, too??"

But, no. Obama is holding on with a very small margin. Therefore, the GOP has been doing pretty well spreading its message (but, thankfully, not well enough....yet). Either that, or America is just not f*cking paying attention.

HempHead: Why Would I Read the Article: FlashHarry: Q: what's the quickest way to derail a recovery?
A: reduce government spending

Bzzzt, wrong! Strike one, try again. This time you might want to incorporate some basic fundamentals of economics in your response. Parroting idiotic Daily Kos talking points is the quickest way to Incorrect-Ville.

We could increase government deficit spending like in Japan. Their recession has only been going on for 20 years now.

Therefore 0 spending means infinite jobs!

kbotc: WTFDYW: Yeah. As high as the unemployment rate in this area was, it was only about 6.75% at its worst.

As of March, it was down to 4.5% which pretty much means that anyone who actually wants to work is working.

Where the heck were you at? It's still at 7.1% here, and it peaked at 10.2% (Though, I did get my current job that month). Ten years ago, the number was 1.9%.

In Teh County, we've been hovering around 10% long before the recession. We're used to joblessness. Can only hire just so many to pick potatoes...

Tommy Moo: Everyone is thinking about this backwards. Unemployment is just a surplus of labor. It's what happens when there are more workers than jobs. This doesn't mean too few jobs; it means too many people. We want jobs to be eliminated to automation. It means more productivity, which, when coupled with a lower population, means higher per capita income and a better lifestyle for everyone, with a bonus side effect of being good for the environment.

I have a modest proposal to deal with that...

HempHead: Before Reagan made a change in unemployment stats, most government workers were included in the unemployment stats since their jobs contributed nothing to the economy.

The business man should that to the cops who are in charge of investigating the robbery that occurred overnight. I'm sure they'll see the truth behind that statement.

Why Would I Read the Article: FlashHarry: Q: what's the quickest way to derail a recovery?
A: reduce government spending

Bzzzt, wrong! Strike one, try again. This time you might want to incorporate some basic fundamentals of economics in your response. Parroting idiotic Daily Kos talking points is the quickest way to Incorrect-Ville.

You mind explain the 'economics' then. His assertion is correct.

HempHead: To build a house in California now requires $80k in fees. No matter how high the raise that number, $150k, $250k, $500k, and noatter how many paper stampers Calufornia hires, it will not help the economy.



Yep, no impact whatsoever