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2012-05-22 01:20:42 PM  

RevCarter: Cybernetic: I've got my Roku box. Netflix and Hulu Plus cost me less than $20/month, total. There is the cost of my DSL, but I'd have that anyway, even without the Roku.

I love my roku box. Like you say, Netflix, Hulu plus, and DSL (split with the neighbor)...I will never pay for cable again.


I have NetFlix and OTA. What does Roku offer in addition to those? I am not interested in Hulu Plus, I use PlayOn as a media server and watch Hulu for free through the wii.
 
2012-05-22 01:30:54 PM  
I stopped paying for cable back in 2003. Have had it free in a couple placed I have lived. Never really watch a lot of TV. Adult Swim, Southpark, and a couple Magic b-ball games are all I really ever watch anyway.

But here in Orlando, cable internet kills DSL all the way around. So there's that.

I do miss these guys though.
www.ginnyhutchinson.com

They were totally awesome on Cape Cod, before AT&T came along and ruined them.
 
2012-05-22 01:36:45 PM  
I'd also be worried about the data caps imposed by my ISP (Suddenlink). I dunno what kind of data usage and possible extra charges switching to an all streaming TV setup would involve.
 
2012-05-22 01:47:05 PM  
FTFA: "The antenna sales have been booming the last couple of years," Mamer's antenna distributor, Mike Ness, said. Ness owns St. Paul-based Ness Electronics, and ships off hardware to all parts of the Midwest.


I heard he was doing solo gigs now, but "antenna distributor"? Oh, how the mighty rock stars have fallen!
 
2012-05-22 01:51:40 PM  
I really wish channels like CNN, Animal Planet, History and syfy would offer a $5/month subscription to streaming versions of their programming. I would sign up in a heart beat. As it is now I'll stick to buying episodes off amazon or streaming netflix to the HTPC. No need for cable.
 
2012-05-22 02:04:38 PM  
Can't get the wife off HGTV
 
2012-05-22 02:05:58 PM  

Expolaris: And the second HBOGO doesn't require a cable subscription i fully plan on buying my own so i can stop leeching off my friend. Even if it cost as much as Sirius per month, i still might consider it.


This.

HBO is the only cable channel I want, but I'm not willing to pay $100/mo for 199 channels of crap and only one channel with two shows I want to watch. I don't see how offering HBOgo subscriptions directly could be anything but good for HBO, but it'd be horrible for cable companies so it'll never happen.
 
2012-05-22 02:07:01 PM  

Linux_Yes: the reality show sh*t party is great for the content producers. they don't have to hire expensive actors and they can feed you sh*t and then raise your cable rates. their profits go higher and higher and your asshole gets bigger and bigger.


Sad but true. I've recently developed an addiction to Storage Wars, even though a repeating loop of "YUUUUUP!" would be equally entertaining and less brain-damaging.
 
2012-05-22 02:07:12 PM  

flaminio: Remarkable_Anus: I can get anything I want and stream it off a NAS.


Which NAS do you use?

Farkers, help me out -- I want to buy a NAS that can hold 4-5 drives, can survive a single disk failure, and has robust built-in DLNA that can stream to my Samsung SmartTV, PS3, and iOS/Android devices. Does such a beast exist?


I currently have a 4Tb Buffalo NAS that is capable of surviving a disk failure. I stream everything I have through iTunes to my ATV. I don't have any issues other than everything has to be in Apple format so I end up converting everything with handbrake. I've taken my whole DVD library and put it on disk. Pretty simple process.
 
2012-05-22 02:07:29 PM  

spentshells:
Doctor who is on CBC ... was on CBC ?


Well, I tried at the start of Eccleston's run when the show re-launched. Then the CBC messed around with the schedule, then I read that they were cutting parts out of the episodes! After that I gave up, became a criminal and discovered the Torrents (btjunkie).

Aside....
Fark the CBC. Just on principle. Bloated money pit for tax dollars so rural retirees can watch "Heartland" , "Rick Mercer Report" or "Republic of Doyle". Know the worst part about watching CBC (when I am at my rural retirees parents' house)? Almost ALL the frakking ads are for shows on CBC, and they have to repeat the same ads every commercial break. On top of that, they only seem to have 4-5 other sponsors (Canadian Tire, Tim Horton's, McDonalds, Honda, Toyaota).
So in conclusion, fark 'em, sell 'em off.
 
2012-05-22 02:09:01 PM  

AgentBang: Just ditched cable myself. Roku box, Amazon Prime and Hulu+ account. Love it.

I don't mind paying a la carte for any of the shows that are coming that I need to see "now" (Breaking Bad, etc.). Still works out less over a year than having a monthly cable subscription.

I'm just hoping that Hulu doesn't move forward with the bullshiat cable authentication crap. If they do that, I'm going to have to go to OTA antenna + my own DVR box...refuse to keep paying almost $200 for cable.


I've been thinking about getting a Roku, and the tax refund I got yesterday pretty much sealed the deal. Quick question: can Roku play youtube videos?
 
2012-05-22 02:09:45 PM  

BradleyUffner: The Banana Thug: TheShavingofOccam123: High cable and satellite prices aren't surprising. What is surprising is the effort to raise prices for alternatives. The Netflix debacle comes to mind.

They did not actually raise price, tho. The DVD side was incubating the streaming side by offering it as a free service until it matured and reached a critical mass of users to begin charging for it. Then it became a separate service. They badly botched the rollout, however. Just a PR disaster.

Yes, Yes they did. What once cost me $X now costs me $X+$Y for the exact same service. If if you don't consider that a price raise, I don't know what is.


No shiat. I'm getting the exact same service, but paying almost twice as much. How is that not a price increase. Reminds me of when XM radio tacked on that extra fee to pay the RIAA extortion and claimed they didn't raise their prices. Bottom line is bottom line. Netflix is still a bargain though.
 
2012-05-22 02:11:36 PM  
"i dont watch tv cause its just a box of lies;
it makes me want to stick a toothpick in my eye"
 
2012-05-22 02:13:12 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: I for one have never paid for cable TV. All the good cable shows are available for free online anyway, just a lower quality. I am missing out on NHL hockey and watching my local MLB team when they lose in 14 innings.


You a Brewer fan? I got rid of my cable too.
 
2012-05-22 02:13:32 PM  
For anyone planning on cutting the cable / taking down the dish - check this site out first. Lots of basic info, plus a great signal/location calculator that will help you choose the right antenna. If you live in the suburbs or rural area, you probably can't get away with a set-top. Take whatever it recommends for the channels you want to pull in and go one size larger, to account for severe weather or overnight broadcast power turndowns.

The codes are color-based. If you are in a valley you will want a stronger and higher antenna as well. And FYI - UHF is generally omnidirectional while VHF antennas need to be aimed. If all of your channels are UHF (most HDTV stations are now UHF) it will be much easier. You can even pick a UHF-only antenna.
 
2012-05-22 02:14:38 PM  

siyuntz: AgentBang: Just ditched cable myself. Roku box, Amazon Prime and Hulu+ account. Love it.

I don't mind paying a la carte for any of the shows that are coming that I need to see "now" (Breaking Bad, etc.). Still works out less over a year than having a monthly cable subscription.

I'm just hoping that Hulu doesn't move forward with the bullshiat cable authentication crap. If they do that, I'm going to have to go to OTA antenna + my own DVR box...refuse to keep paying almost $200 for cable.

I've been thinking about getting a Roku, and the tax refund I got yesterday pretty much sealed the deal. Quick question: can Roku play youtube videos?


Don't quote me on this. But I believe the new Roku players or the new signees on to Roku are not allowed to view Youtube. But either older boxes or older participants can still view it through the old YouTube private channel.

I watch an enormous amount of YouTube. I now know how to make crawfish traps, outriggers for my canoe out of net floats and tandoori chicken and lots of other crap. Plus I saw a goose attack a pro fisherman in a kayak. Wheeeeeee
 
2012-05-22 02:16:03 PM  

Linux_Yes: Cable TV is a Giant Turd with lots of buttons on it.


If only. I love buttons, and poop is hilarious.
 
2012-05-22 02:20:31 PM  
I wouldn't know, I really don't watch TV. I'm more of a masturbator.
 
2012-05-22 02:22:55 PM  
If this actually happens, I'll be pretty pissed. If you are planning on cutting cable, you may want to do it quicker so you can at least save a few bucks in case this kicks in...

http://popwatch.ew.com/2012/05/01/hulu-cable-authentication/
 
2012-05-22 02:25:06 PM  
 
2012-05-22 02:25:29 PM  

dk47: Can't get the wife off HGTV


FTFY

Also, I will keep my cable because for much the same reason I come to Fark.com...I like mindless entertainment.
 
2012-05-22 02:34:34 PM  
Nielsen, which monitors the industry, reports in April of 2012, almost 82 percent of TV watchers in the Twin Cities television market used cable or satellite while about 18 percent used the "over the air" signal.


I highly doubt those numbers are accurate. Nielson refuses to acknowledge internet streaming. I get their thing in the mail every year, and every year there is no option to state you watch shows online. I fill in the info and enclose a note that lists all the show I watch on a regular basis online at places like Hulu, I'm sure they just throw it in the trash.
 
2012-05-22 02:37:37 PM  
$14 a month for my limited basic cable .
 
2012-05-22 02:53:24 PM  
8 years ago we had basic cable for $7 per month. One day, it went up to $21 per month. I dropped it then and never looked back. My kids get 1 hour of TV at night (after homework, playtime, dinner, and baths). Netflix has enough crap to keep them happy for years. During football season I'll pull out the bunny ears to catch a game or two. My wife does miss MLB, but not enough to pay what they want today. I did look into it with Charter. It's just silly how much money they want for people like us that watch 5 hours a week, plus an occasional sporting event. Thanks - but no thanks.
 
2012-05-22 02:56:58 PM  
I pay for the internet bundle with the phone and the TV and my kid really digs the children's programming. I would too, if they would only make Ganja legal. Dude and I would veg to Yo Gabba Gabba until one of us got hungry or needed to be changed.
 
2012-05-22 02:59:36 PM  

BuckTurgidson: HopScotchNSoda: WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.

I notice you called television by its nickname.

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"Idiot box" is my favorite derogatory term for television. I use that one a lot. But I've got other ones, too, like "boob tube" and "electronic babysitter."


I've always hated the term boob tube, so misleading.
The one time they had an actual boob on that tube the world almost exploded.
 
2012-05-22 03:01:35 PM  
If anyone knows of some type of decision tree or rubric to help a person to find a good alternative to the current "expanded cable + internet" gouging that I go through every month, I would be eternally grateful. And technology is not my bailiwick.
 
2012-05-22 03:02:12 PM  

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Various other channels
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Never at a loss for something to watch
 
2012-05-22 03:06:55 PM  
I've been researching alternatives to my HD cable for a while. Roku is good, but no web browsing. Boxee now has that Live TV dongle thing... but I hear there's an issue with Flash 5.x and no Flash update for the device in the near future, therefore no Comedy Central!

I do have an Xbox. Suppose I could pull the trigger on Netflix and Hulu Plus and get by with that, but I will be sad when football season starts.

/grr
//WPP
 
2012-05-22 03:09:29 PM  
I have Verizon FiOS. I get internet (25/25), cable, and home phone (unlimited long-distance) for $150 including taxes, drinks and tip. I can afford to pay a bit for the convenience of not having to track down and download the shows my family and I want to watch.
 
2012-05-22 03:10:10 PM  

Angry Buddha: Flash 5.x


Huh? I meant Flash 10.3. No farking idea what 5.x was about.
 
2012-05-22 03:12:42 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: Is this the thread where some people brag about being too hip to buy cable while a different set of people brag about being too hip to even own a t.v. Yeah I've got friends like that, but they always call me begging to come watch the game on my HD cable. I don't watch a lot of t.v. shows but the ones I do watch plus football are enough to keep me on the basic HD package


Yes. And, as always, someone comes along to call non-TV watchers a bunch of hipsters. You do not disappoint!

I told the cable company to fark off in 1999. I didn't have a TV until about 18 months ago, when I found a good deal on a flatscreen for movies.

No, I don't beg people to watch their cable. I hook up rabbit ears during football season. If something is on ESPN, I go to the bar.
 
2012-05-22 03:13:46 PM  

Mudd's woman: If anyone knows of some type of decision tree or rubric to help a person to find a good alternative to the current "expanded cable + internet" gouging that I go through every month, I would be eternally grateful. And technology is not my bailiwick.



Unless you need to see the most recent episodes as they are aired (i.e. it's all you discuss with people just drop the cable portion and get netflix and/or hulu.

I got netflix last year sometime, I think I've watched a total of 15 hours of cable since then, and only because I couldn't be assed to put a netflix capable box in my bedroom. suppose if you already watch a lot of stuff then it doesn't have much. but it's a godsend if you have little kids (who like to watch the same thing over and over) and the kicker? No commercials. :) Not that you should let them watch My Little Pony or Avatar all day... but if you do, at least they won't be kicking and screaming about how they need magically delicious Lucky Charms in addition to their complete breakfast.

Heck, I accidentally dropped my cable remote into a cup of water (cable is include in the rent where I live and I can't opt out) and frankly I don't find myself missing it at all.

I suppose it's different if you watch a lot of sports, but that ain't my bag.
 
2012-05-22 03:16:07 PM  
Told Verizon to go FIOS themselves last month (for TV. Kept the internet). I can pull the big three off the air if I want local news or live TV, but haven't yet.

Plenty of kids shows on Netflix and Youtube, and if I need anything else, I fire up XBMC, where I can find just about anything else myself, the little one, or my wife want to watch. If I get desperate for live TV, I can find most networks streaming on XBMC (except for Sprout, for some reason...)

Saving about $85 a month, very little downside...except that James keeps watching goddamned All About Monster Trucks with Hard Hat Harry...
 
2012-05-22 03:18:02 PM  

Wellon Dowd: I have Verizon FiOS. I get internet (25/25), cable, and home phone (unlimited long-distance) for $150 including taxes, drinks and tip. I can afford to pay a bit for the convenience of not having to track down and download the shows my family and I want to watch.


See, I just don't find TV (Cable, Over the Air or Sat) convenient at all unless I record it, and then... why not just use a streaming service?

Then I can save my hard drive space for other things.
 
2012-05-22 03:21:11 PM  

Sticky Hands: "electronic babysitter."

I've always hated the term boob tube, so misleading.



Glass Nipple.
 
2012-05-22 03:22:14 PM  

Oreamnos: funk_soul_bubby: All you need you can make with what's probably laying around the house. Coat hanger cat whisker antenna with chicken wire shield.

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Dude, I mean you no disrespect and I dig the DIY mindset, but for whatever reason your antenna makes me think of Timmy the Toilet Paper Man from Dilbert.

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Dilbert Strip


Heh. It's a pretty ragged looking apparatus.
 
2012-05-22 03:24:30 PM  

I Mash Grains: RevCarter: Cybernetic: I've got my Roku box. Netflix and Hulu Plus cost me less than $20/month, total. There is the cost of my DSL, but I'd have that anyway, even without the Roku.

I love my roku box. Like you say, Netflix, Hulu plus, and DSL (split with the neighbor)...I will never pay for cable again.

I have NetFlix and OTA. What does Roku offer in addition to those? I am not interested in Hulu Plus, I use PlayOn as a media server and watch Hulu for free through the wii.


Amazon video-on-demand is the one I use the most (other than Netflix and Hulu). There's a good selection of free stuff if you're an Amazon Prime member (although it is very similar to what you can find on Netflix), and pay-per-view titles show up at pretty much the same time that they would appear in you cable company's PPV list.

I think that Hulu Plus is worth the money because you mostly get TV episodes the day after they air, and it can also be used on an iPhone or iPad in addition to the Roku (as is the case with Netflix).
 
2012-05-22 03:25:37 PM  

Sticky Hands: Mudd's woman: If anyone knows of some type of decision tree or rubric to help a person to find a good alternative to the current "expanded cable + internet" gouging that I go through every month, I would be eternally grateful. And technology is not my bailiwick.


Unless you need to see the most recent episodes as they are aired (i.e. it's all you discuss with people just drop the cable portion and get netflix and/or hulu.

I got netflix last year sometime, I think I've watched a total of 15 hours of cable since then, and only because I couldn't be assed to put a netflix capable box in my bedroom. suppose if you already watch a lot of stuff then it doesn't have much. but it's a godsend if you have little kids (who like to watch the same thing over and over) and the kicker? No commercials. :) Not that you should let them watch My Little Pony or Avatar all day... but if you do, at least they won't be kicking and screaming about how they need magically delicious Lucky Charms in addition to their complete breakfast.

Heck, I accidentally dropped my cable remote into a cup of water (cable is include in the rent where I live and I can't opt out) and frankly I don't find myself missing it at all.

I suppose it's different if you watch a lot of sports, but that ain't my bag.




Thanks for the insight. Netflix does sound like a viable option -- i just wonder if Charter would charge me some ridiculous rate for an internet-only setup if I were to drop the cable. Guess I will need to investigate that first.
 
2012-05-22 03:28:46 PM  
BTW, as far as the "beast" I run this on:

HP Pavilion a6712f (2.5GHz dual core, 4GB memory, 500 gig HD) which I got for free from a friend who's mom gave up on it when the video card died.

to which I added:
HIS Radeon HD 5450 Silence 1 GB ($30)
Cooler Master Elite 460W ATX ($30)
Logitech Wireless Touch Keyboard K400 with Built-In Multi-Touch Touchpad ($30)

According to the Windows 7 widget and the XBMC resource screen, I'm not going over 40% of CPU and memory, even with video playing and me surfing the web for episode info.
 
2012-05-22 03:42:44 PM  
i stopped paying for cable when I moved 2.5 years ago and haven't missed it since. sure there are a handful of good shows on and it's easy to just leave a channel on for a while when you're busy with something else, but it's really not worth the price. without tiered pricing, i don't see how cable companies can persuade people like me who like to watch just a few programs and don't want or need anything more. how much TV do people really need to watch?

At MOST, I could watch maybe 2 hours a day total. that's about 60 hours a month for let's say $50 (no expensive bundles or add-ons). The commercials take up about 30% of that time, though, so it's like paying income tax on your television enjoyment at $15 per month or 25 cents per hour. and if you wanted to fill every hour of your television enjoyment with unique, current-season shows, that's about 20 programs assuming half of the ones you watch are an hour long. Furthermore lets say a few of these programs are on the same channel, like comedy central, fx, and discovery for example. so you'd only need maybe 10 channels total. Even a basic cable package will have about 150 channels, though, of which you're only watching less than 10%. By these rough estimates, if you were to only pay for what you watch, 10 channels and no commercials, it'd only be like $2.50 a month instead of $50. What you're paying for, really, are for a bunch of choices and commercials you don't even want.

on the other hand, streaming off Hulu or sites featuring specific shows, not only is it free but the commercial breaks are much shorter. it's a win-win if you don't mind the loss is picture quality. if you want even more selection, there are options like Hulu plus, netflix, and blockbuster for a fee still much smaller than for cable.

the main point is that these days, the consumer can watch exactly what they want to watch, when they want to watch it, at little to no cost, thanks to the internet. to more and more people, the absurdity that is cable tv bundles of hundreds of crappy channels with crappy shows and endless commercials will just become less and less worth the bill.
 
2012-05-22 03:57:16 PM  

El Freak: Between Netflix and Hulu, and an *ahem* torrent of other options, I have access to everything I want to watch. I don't care to spend shiatloads of money for reality bullshiat and sports bullshiat I have no interest in ever watching.


Thanks to the options you mentioned as well as usenet and the various peer to peer file sharing options, there's really no need for cable. Also for less that what the cable costs, you can get one helluva fast internet connection.
 
2012-05-22 03:57:50 PM  
Living 70 miles away from Los Angeles gives me quite a selection of channels using my roof antenna. Auto channel search gives me 109 channels, 87 of them are in english. Hulu is a great alternative if I want to watch something different. There are also sites that have old public domain movies. Free is good. Mongo like free.
 
2012-05-22 04:06:54 PM  
If I could find a site that would let me watch the soccer games I like when I Want (ie not live), I'd probably dump cable. All the shows I watch are on Hulu anyhow and I could probably do Netflix if I got desperate.

Now, convincing the wife to give up cable tv....that's hard.
 
2012-05-22 04:22:22 PM  
What, you don't want to pay $100 a month to watch Kardashiwhores, white-trash being bleeped every five seconds, repo-tards, and hillbillies sticking their hands in fishes mouths? Blasphemy.

/Seriously, fook cable.
 
2012-05-22 04:29:58 PM  

Linux_Yes: flaminio: The nail-in-coffin moment for me wasn't so much the price, but the fact that every cable channel has devolved into reality show crapfests. Back in the day when you could actually learn something on The Learning Channel, or discover something on Discover, it was still worth it. I weep most for NatGeo.

the reality show sh*t party is great for the content producers. they don't have to hire expensive actors and they can feed you sh*t and then raise your cable rates. their profits go higher and higher and your asshole gets bigger and bigger.

ain't American Freedom great!!


Yep, I remember a time when I could veg out with the History channel for hours, and actually learn some cool shiat. Now it's nothing by a--hole pawn shop BS and rednecks shooting alligators. We are in a sad state if there is an actual demand for that nonsense.
 
2012-05-22 04:43:38 PM  

siyuntz: AgentBang: Just ditched cable myself. Roku box, Amazon Prime and Hulu+ account. Love it.

I don't mind paying a la carte for any of the shows that are coming that I need to see "now" (Breaking Bad, etc.). Still works out less over a year than having a monthly cable subscription.

I'm just hoping that Hulu doesn't move forward with the bullshiat cable authentication crap. If they do that, I'm going to have to go to OTA antenna + my own DVR box...refuse to keep paying almost $200 for cable.

I've been thinking about getting a Roku, and the tax refund I got yesterday pretty much sealed the deal. Quick question: can Roku play youtube videos?


The only thing I can find to play youtube on Roku is Playon (which has to be on a computer as well). But MAN does that biatch stream hella slow
 
2012-05-22 04:58:13 PM  

Portia: If the companies would go ala carte and we could just get BBC, HGTV, and HBO or Showtime, we'd pay for it.


Would you pay $800 a month for it? All those 200 other channels full of bullshiat is where the advertisers place commercials, and that's how the money is made.
 
2012-05-22 05:09:37 PM  

paygun: Portia: If the companies would go ala carte and we could just get BBC, HGTV, and HBO or Showtime, we'd pay for it.

Would you pay $800 a month for it? All those 200 other channels full of bullshiat is where the advertisers place commercials, and that's how the money is made.


Sup. Marketing / Advertising guy here.

TV commercials are a black hole of money, they give us little payoff, most of them are automatically run on youtube / pretty much everywhere else besides TV. We don't like wasting money filling empty TV slots on dead air. TV is expensive for not enough payoff, when it just ends up automatically being put on the web. Cable TV advertising is an extra cost.

As it's been said, the web is where we are going now. And a lot of ad companies are trying to tread lightly in terms of how to adapt the commercial model forward. I personally (a guy who writes those evil ads) hates those farking ads that keep running 5 times during 1 Hulu show. For farks sakes i've seen the Diablo 3 trailer like 50 times, i understand repetition but overdoing it only causes them to shut us out completely.

The options to skip ads, watch 1 ad at the beginning, and other things are what we like. Options that give you the viewer control, so you aren't "stuck watching an ad for my video to load". or as previously mentioned, seeing the same retarded commercial 50 times.

Let's be honest. We marketers aren't going anywhere, but that doesn't mean we want to ruin a good thing in the name of profitability (shocking i know).

There will be Ads in the future. Most of them will suck. And as a young guy in this industry, i'm going to try my hardest to not drop the ball on this one.
 
2012-05-22 05:23:19 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Expolaris: And the second HBOGO doesn't require a cable subscription i fully plan on buying my own so i can stop leeching off my friend. Even if it cost as much as Sirius per month, i still might consider it.

This.

HBO is the only cable channel I want, but I'm not willing to pay $100/mo for 199 channels of crap and only one channel with two shows I want to watch. I don't see how offering HBOgo subscriptions directly could be anything but good for HBO, but it'd be horrible for cable companies so it'll never happen.


I wish HBO was sourced through Netflix (or through their own app, although I dislike that idea for the same reason I dislike having to use Steam and Origin). But they make an obscene amount of money through their cable distributors, so I can't see that happening until cable demand drops precipitously AND they get the billing infrastructure in place to do it.
 
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