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2012-05-22 11:29:41 AM  

funk_soul_bubby: All you need you can make with what's probably laying around the house. Coat hanger cat whisker antenna with chicken wire shield.

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What does the chicken wire get you? Mine's just the hanger wire.
 
2012-05-22 11:30:22 AM  

WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.


What's a "TV?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard about?
 
2012-05-22 11:30:41 AM  
I have 3 kids and we tried not having cable for a while, but Netflix doesn't update series fast enough and redbox has been really crappy lately (especially for horror movies), so we went back.
It's a necessary evil on long winter months or like now, when it rains 90% of time and too cold to go out.
 
2012-05-22 11:31:02 AM  

funk_soul_bubby: TheShavingofOccam123: I'm building one of those this weekend along with a copper foil conductive tape fractal antenna. I want to see the difference in reception between the two concepts.

Mine's pretty crappy-looking, admittedly, but it really is $0 investment. I use it for the TV in the garage. I have DirecTV (for the moment anyway) but this allows me to pull in Louisville affiliates since DirecTV assigned me Lexington affiliates. I added the shield this weekend and was surprised by how much it helped reception.


Are those metal strips that the bolts pass through? I've never seen a design that links the elements with metal strips.
 
2012-05-22 11:31:03 AM  

El Freak: Between Netflix and Hulu, and an *ahem* torrent of other options, I have access to everything I want to watch. I don't care to spend shiatloads of money for reality bullshiat and sports bullshiat I have no interest in ever watching.



a Tornado of Torrents!!!
 
2012-05-22 11:31:14 AM  
If cable tv shut off tomorrow, what things of value would be lost?

Seriously, I want a list.
 
2012-05-22 11:31:27 AM  
We've been without television for a couple of years, and haven't missed it at all. Our main beef was that it wasn't possible to select the channels we actually wanted to see, without buying into 100 channels of junk.

Now we have a cable modem and no cable TV. Suits us just fine.
 
2012-05-22 11:31:33 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I pay $20 a month in basic cable and $80 a month for some really good Internet speeds.


Your internet speed would be exactly the same if you got the $40 option. The extra "boost" crap they're selling you is pure snake oil.
 
2012-05-22 11:32:02 AM  
The nail-in-coffin moment for me wasn't so much the price, but the fact that every cable channel has devolved into reality show crapfests. Back in the day when you could actually learn something on The Learning Channel, or discover something on Discover, it was still worth it. I weep most for NatGeo.
 
2012-05-22 11:32:05 AM  

alwaysjaded: I have DirectTV and I don't mind paying for it. Does that make me a Fark terrorist?


No. But even you have to admit the current business model of Television providers does not work for everyone. And the reality is that becomes more true every year. Soon that portion will be in the majority.
 
2012-05-22 11:32:15 AM  

BradleyUffner: The Banana Thug: TheShavingofOccam123: High cable and satellite prices aren't surprising. What is surprising is the effort to raise prices for alternatives. The Netflix debacle comes to mind.

They did not actually raise price, tho. The DVD side was incubating the streaming side by offering it as a free service until it matured and reached a critical mass of users to begin charging for it. Then it became a separate service. They badly botched the rollout, however. Just a PR disaster.

Yes, Yes they did. What once cost me $X now costs me $X+$Y for the exact same service. If if you don't consider that a price raise, I don't know what is.


Plus they dropped content. It's hard to put loss of selection in terms of dollars but...
 
2012-05-22 11:32:19 AM  

alwaysjaded: I have DirectTV and I don't mind paying for it. Does that make me a Fark terrorist?


don't be a dish head
www.adrants.com
 
2012-05-22 11:33:14 AM  
RT.com:: started watching this while traveling in Europe for biz. They have their act together. The TV channel is the same as the internet streams. I wish more channels would do this.
 
2012-05-22 11:33:24 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.

What's a "TV?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard about?


Hey, I read about you...
 
2012-05-22 11:33:35 AM  
I stopped with cable about 10 years ago. Every time I visit the parents, or some of my other relatives, I can't believe how much time they waste every single day on that crap. They don't just turn on a show and turn it off when it's done. They start mindlessly flipping through the channels until they find something that isn't terrible by their standards, watch it, rinse, repeat, until bedtime, night after night. Such a waste.
 
2012-05-22 11:34:29 AM  
This line always rings in my head when this topic comes up "Why am i paying for 1,000 hours of programming i hate?"

I don't, and i shouldn't. Even when i had cable i found i was just "leaving it on", for the sake of it. Background noise, wasting electricity and money. I would always just leave it running when i played my xbox online. It was unnecessary, useless in my life but still costing me money.

Now, my entertainment costs are pretty low.

Xbox ($50 a year) + Netflix (roughly $100 a year) + Hulu (roughly $100) + Sirius for my car and working out. ($150 with the year plan). So about $400 a year and i have games, movies, and music to help me unwind when i'm done with the important parts of life.

My entertainment costs are below $40-50 a month, depending on if i buy a game off xbox live. Hulu and Netflix keep me entertained, and i use Sirius at the gym and in my car so the price is definitely worth it.

And the second HBOGO doesn't require a cable subscription i fully plan on buying my own so i can stop leeching off my friend. Even if it cost as much as Sirius per month, i still might consider it.

And because these are all things i actually can justify paying for. Yes there are tons of crappy music on sirius i don't listen to and enough Croctopus B-roll movies on Netflix to make my eyes roll. But it's worth it, it's there when i want it, how i want it, and as fast as i want it.

The thrill and wonder of watching a TV show, pausing it, then finishing it on your phone while you take a massive dump is one saved for modern times.

/rant over
 
2012-05-22 11:34:55 AM  
www.dishtvblog.com
 
2012-05-22 11:35:59 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Rabbit ears + Netflix has worked for me for the last few years.

Won't go back to cable until they allow ala carte pricing.


This.

Plus NHL Gamecenter on PS3
 
2012-05-22 11:36:19 AM  
When I hook up my schlong to my TV I get reception from Omicron Persei 8.
 
2012-05-22 11:37:41 AM  
They're shifting the model to IPTV which can download content to your home storage device (basically a giant Tivo or server) which can then stream the content wirelessly on demand to MoCA enabled devices (routers) which connect to your television/laptop. It's only a few years away from widespread rollout.

What, you thought you were just going to banish Comcat from your lives? Fat chance of that. They own those cable wires that go to your house. They control the content.

Link
 
2012-05-22 11:37:41 AM  
We currently have the technology to access every single piece of recorded media ever created, and they want me to shell out 12 hundy a year for Swamp Dwarf Ghost Hunter Fishin'

No.
 
2012-05-22 11:38:31 AM  
I just added HBO yesterday, getting a kick...

/worth the extra $8/month to not have to wait for their DVD releases anymore
//to each their own
 
2012-05-22 11:38:42 AM  

Headso: she thought someone was changing her show, she couldn't understand the concept of commercials.


That gives me hope for the future. O brave new world, that has such people in it!
 
2012-05-22 11:39:05 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: HellRaisingHoosier: I pay $20 a month in basic cable and $80 a month for some really good Internet speeds.

Your internet speed would be exactly the same if you got the $40 option. The extra "boost" crap they're selling you is pure snake oil.



Except it would be slower, which might make a difference to him.
 
2012-05-22 11:39:28 AM  
I'm about to cut my cable off.

With all the other options, it doesn't seem a huge loss. I pay for the NHL package, the only blackouts I get are the Stanley cup playoffs, so that will be a loss. Also, I guess I'll have to get an antenna to see the Crimson Tide. Any ideas on how I could get college football? Don't mind paying, just not as much as cable.
 
2012-05-22 11:39:58 AM  
Since the kids moved out, I turn off my cable every year the day after the Super Bowl and turn it on again in September.
Except for the years when they have the World Cup, then it stays on all year long.

Last year I got a deal with Comcast, which the house was still hooked up for from a few years back, who were trying to hook people into watching X-finity. When I checked it out I was absolutely flabbergasted. They want you to pay 100 bucks to watch third rate movies from thirty years ago? And charge you extra for every single thing else they can think of? WTF?
 
2012-05-22 11:40:30 AM  

omg bbq: Never before have we paid so much for such crappy content. Reality tv is impossibly cheap (once you get past all the spray on tan and cymbal upkeep) to produce and really does nothing to move humanity forward as a whole, unless you are in the cymbal business because brother, that business is booming... Or...Rolling? I dunno.


There are reality tv shows about drummers?
 
2012-05-22 11:41:04 AM  
As a kid, I grew up with rabbit ears or a pole mounted antenna.

As an adult, Netflix, Hulu and others. Never really had commercial television programming except for the two years I lived in the dorms in college.


Don't miss a minute of it.
 
2012-05-22 11:41:22 AM  

flaminio: The nail-in-coffin moment for me wasn't so much the price, but the fact that every cable channel has devolved into reality show crapfests. Back in the day when you could actually learn something on The Learning Channel, or discover something on Discover, it was still worth it. I weep most for NatGeo.


That is also what sealed it for me as well. I would watch TV, but just because it was 'there' and most of the stuff that caught my attention was shows like "When Killer Storms Knock Ancient Buildings Down and the People Who Rescue Them" As you said, many years ago, TLC used to put emphasis on the 'L'
 
2012-05-22 11:41:24 AM  
I maintain my cable because a. ) I call every 6 months threatening to drop them and they knock $10 off my bill (down to $68/mo for HD DVR+channel pkg+15MBit internet) and b.) I like to watch football games that aren't crappily streamed in low-res, and are 5 minutes behind the broadcast. Kinda ruins fantasy.

(Seriously, are there any free HD sports streaming sites? All of them I've ever watched look like a low bandwidth youtube video.)

I am aware that cable isn't a "good deal"- it's a luxury I recognize that I can afford without undue financial hardship that provides me with entertainment satisfaction commensurate with what I'm paying for it.
 
2012-05-22 11:42:30 AM  

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I stopped with cable about 10 years ago. Every time I visit the parents, or some of my other relatives, I can't believe how much time they waste every single day on that crap. They don't just turn on a show and turn it off when it's done. They start mindlessly flipping through the channels until they find something that isn't terrible by their standards, watch it, rinse, repeat, until bedtime, night after night. Such a waste.



the American way!
 
2012-05-22 11:42:44 AM  

Naeva: I'm about to cut my cable off.

With all the other options, it doesn't seem a huge loss. I pay for the NHL package, the only blackouts I get are the Stanley cup playoffs, so that will be a loss. Also, I guess I'll have to get an antenna to see the Crimson Tide. Any ideas on how I could get college football? Don't mind paying, just not as much as cable.


I watch my teams through the ESPN app on Xbox. Lets me watch the game like live TV, and any live games they ran are archived so you can watch what you missed. But not everyone has the Microsoft fun box, so.

If you have a computer with HDMI out ESPN3 could probably help you. Their streaming interface is actually pretty awesome.
 
2012-05-22 11:43:48 AM  

Rapmaster2000: They're shifting the model to IPTV which can download content to your home storage device (basically a giant Tivo or server) which can then stream the content wirelessly on demand to MoCA enabled devices (routers) which connect to your television/laptop. It's only a few years away from widespread rollout.

What, you thought you were just going to banish Comcat from your lives? Fat chance of that. They own those cable wires that go to your house. They control the content.

Link


This. When a major monopolistic corporation controls both the content and the means of delivery, you might think you've cut your ties to cable but you haven't. And you won't until and unless some level of government forces competition at your wall where the hard wiring enters your home (assuming you are hard-wired). If the gov mandated two or more competitors for internet service, you might see a price reduction (probably just a new round of acquisitions until competition is undoable).

Look at much of the new content Netflix is offering. Does it look very similar to what is on cable? Huh. How did that happen.

What pisses me off is Netflix is going to go through what broadcast stations went through--poor content and more limited selection--and eventually consist of everything you saw on cable last year. Plus having to pay the Netflix middle man charge for viewing it.
 
2012-05-22 11:44:34 AM  

someonelse: antidisestablishmentarianism: I for one have never paid for cable TV. All the good cable shows are available for free online anyway, just a lower quality. I am missing out on NHL hockey and watching my local MLB team when they lose in 14 innings.

Ha. I came here to say the only reason I have cable is to watch the Brewers and the Packers. If I could get those, I'd drop cable in a heartbeat, although I do love Turner Classic Movies.


As much as I love TCM, I ditched my cable TV back in March. I was paying 108 a month before taxes for internet and basic cable (which TCM was a part of). I used my desktop as a PVR, but when Aliant issued a firmware update for their box, it totally screwed up my PVR capabilities, and I wasn't paying an extra 10 bucks a month to record stuff. I really only watched TCM, with the odd time that the channel went to Teletoon, CBS, Comedy, and Teletoon Retro, so I couldn't justify paying for stuff I wasn't really using. I don't miss it, and if there's something interesting on TCM (I still check their online schedule), I go to the internets. I'm now paying 70 bucks for internets alone, but it's uncapped, so I can use Netflix (parents' account works at my place as well as theirs at the same time, despite the two residences being 70 kilometres away), and use other methods of getting stuff. I'm also one of those insane kids that actually buys DVDs and Blu-rays still. I have almost 800 films and TV shows on DVD, BD, and VHS, so I'm not missing much by not having cable. I still have some of those PVRs I made before the system screwed up to catch up on as well. :)

Also, I like to do a thing called reading. It's something that's pretty much free, especially if you go to a place like a library. Also, you don't need electricity to do it, and you can even go outside!
 
2012-05-22 11:45:31 AM  

The Goddamn Batman: Seriously, some really great TV shows (Breaking Bad, Arrested Development, Friday Night Lights, etc.) are on Netflix streaming already.


Tell me about season 4.

/netflixs' streaming selection is awful.
 
2012-05-22 11:45:52 AM  

s1ugg0: Also does anyone know if I'll be able to get NBCSC? I ask only because I'm missing half the damn games of the Devils/Rangers series because of it.


No idea, but it's so odd that I'm happy it's on NBCSC. We, of course, can't get MSG down in Alabama, so it's the only way I could see the Devils play. Had to buy Center Ice on my Boxee too, but that's pretty awesome actually. But it's messed up someone down here can see more of the series than someone actually in Jersey.
 
2012-05-22 11:46:17 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.

What's a "TV?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard about?


It's how the Plebians "entertain" themselves instead of reading Sartre.
 
2012-05-22 11:46:57 AM  

redpanda2: My favorite team is out of market, so Gamecenter takes care of me most of the time. So, I kid you not, I am paying 60 bucks a month to be able to watch the stanley cup playoffs. If it weren't for the playoffs, or if I could get those on Gamecenter too, I wouldn't have cable.


I pretty much have cable 6 months on, 6 months off for a similar reason. I really love college football. It is the only reason I watch TV at all. The nice thing is that I can usually get on a "cheap" 3 / 6 month deal by moving back to a more expensive package which only costs me about 20 bucks a month more a month than just having my internet connection.
 
2012-05-22 11:47:08 AM  

BohemianGraham: someonelse: antidisestablishmentarianism:

Also, I like to do a thing called reading. It's something that's pretty much free, especially if you go to a place like a library. Also, you don't need electricity to do it, and you can even go outside!


28.media.tumblr.com

/had a very similar conversations with my work partner this morning.
 
2012-05-22 11:48:55 AM  

flaminio: The nail-in-coffin moment for me wasn't so much the price, but the fact that every cable channel has devolved into reality show crapfests. Back in the day when you could actually learn something on The Learning Channel, or discover something on Discover, it was still worth it. I weep most for NatGeo.


the reality show sh*t party is great for the content producers. they don't have to hire expensive actors and they can feed you sh*t and then raise your cable rates. their profits go higher and higher and your asshole gets bigger and bigger.

ain't American Freedom great!!
 
2012-05-22 11:49:36 AM  
I say this whenever these threads come around. There are so many new options for television viewing, but it's very confusing for people who aren't all that tech savvy. And while a lot of people enjoy the problem-solving aspect of figuring it all out, some of us just don't have the time or patience to futz with it. I think there's a great niche market out there for a business that serves those people. I'd pay for a service that tells me, based on what I watch, what my best options are, and what they'd cost me. Then I'd pay extra to have them set it up for me. I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel the same way. C'mon, entrepreneurs, satisfy me.
 
2012-05-22 11:49:58 AM  

Headso: Portia: Whenever we visit someone with cable I am so annoyed by the constant commercials that I haven't minded not having cable at all.

My friend's 2+ year old daughter had never watched regular television until one day when they brought her over her cousin's house for a birthday party. She kept flipping out every time the commercials came on because she thought someone was changing her show, she couldn't understand the concept of commercials.


That 2 year old and I definitely see eye to eye on this. Why should I sit down and spend an hour watching a show when there's only about 30-40 minutes of actual show and 20+ minutes of commercials? This way I can 1) watch what I want and pause it when necessary 2) not have to sit there screaming at the tv. This is especially helpful during an election year.

If the companies would go ala carte and we could just get BBC, HGTV, and HBO or Showtime, we'd pay for it. I am not paying jack shiat for a million sports channels, country music television, or for the thousand and one seasons of the bachelor. Since we can't, it's just netflix, the interwebs, and bumming an hbogo login from a friend.
 
2012-05-22 11:50:02 AM  

Headso: Portia: Whenever we visit someone with cable I am so annoyed by the constant commercials that I haven't minded not having cable at all.

My friend's 2+ year old daughter had never watched regular television until one day when they brought her over her cousin's house for a birthday party. She kept flipping out every time the commercials came on because she thought someone was changing her show, she couldn't understand the concept of commercials.


My kids were the same way. Now at 8 and 5, they learned how to fast forward through the ads on what we record for them. My son pointed out that he doesn't understand why they bother with the ads, because no one watches them anyways.
Hell, after Nexflix it took me a bit to explain why he can't just instantly watch the whole season of Ultimate Spider Man. The concept of waiting for a new episode was completely foreign.
 
2012-05-22 11:51:05 AM  

WhippingBoy: Fuggin Bizzy: WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.

What's a "TV?" Is this something I'm supposed to have heard about?

It's how the Plebians "entertain" themselves instead of reading Sartre.


You're joking. I hope. If Sartre's too much for them, why don't they just read Proust?
 
2012-05-22 11:51:40 AM  

funk_soul_bubby: All you need you can make with what's probably laying around the house. Coat hanger cat whisker antenna with chicken wire shield.

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I have been gobsmacked. And it's only Tuesday.
 
2012-05-22 11:52:04 AM  

WhippingBoy: Pffft. I don't even own a TV.


I notice you called television by its nickname.
www.madmann.com
 
2012-05-22 11:55:07 AM  
I'm about to actually cut the cable myself soon. When I moved here I used it but after hooking my desktop up to my large TV, I forgot I had cable. I don't really watch new shows at all and the programs I typically download are old (Home Improvement, Seinfeld). Colbert report I watch religiously, but that can be streamed for free (bless you SC). Only thing I truly miss is HD Sports, but online streaming sports are good enough. If only ESPN 3 allowed me to pay 5-20 bucks a month to get the entire library of live games on ESPN. Football/Football/Hockey/NCAAB/Aussie Rules all streaming? shutupandtakemymoney.jpg
 
2012-05-22 11:55:30 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: I tried to watch the NATO protests on CNN. I saw maybe 30 seconds of content with multiple cutaways and 10 minutes of commercials. That's probably the last time I tune in CNN for anything informative. What a joke.


Are you suffering from mesothelioma?
 
2012-05-22 11:56:02 AM  
Network TV is dying. People want original quality programming, but don't want to sit through 15 minutes of commercials in an hour to see it. There are too many other ways to view your programs without watching the commercials
 
2012-05-22 11:56:03 AM  

RocketRay: What does the chicken wire get you? Mine's just the hanger wire.


It's a shield of sorts. I'm no genius on air waves, I just saw some guys on YouTube using them.

TheShavingofOccam123: Are those metal strips that the bolts pass through? I've never seen a design that links the elements with metal strips.


All the metal is coat hanger or screw. I cut up pieces of a plastic cup to put behind the whiskers to offset it from the backing, which is a piece of baseboard. Very ghetto, all available in my house though.
 
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