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(The New York Times)   The New York Times endorses the return of dueling pistol. No really, that & nine other (mostly long) defunct summer Olympic competitions. It's actually a pretty good list with lots of potential for modern implementation   (london2012.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 37
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2012-05-22 10:15:59 AM  
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Frowns on these shenanigans
 
2012-05-22 10:29:58 AM  

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Frowns on these shenanigans


ON THE DAY AARON BURR WAS INDICTED FOR THE HAMILTON INCIDENT, TOO.

It's like they learned nothing.

/I would like to see dueling, but not in the sissy Olympic way
 
2012-05-22 10:30:08 AM  
Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running
 
2012-05-22 10:41:44 AM  
There has been some pretty recent attempts to get the cross country race into the Winter Olympics as a means to get more countries to participate (Africa). But they can't get them to budge from "requires" snow or ice to "can be done with" snow or ice.
 
2012-05-22 10:46:05 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running


You can watch highlights of the '36 Games' modern pentathlon in Riefenstahl's "Olympia". The competitors are all in full military dress, which is interesting.
 
2012-05-22 10:49:03 AM  
I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.
 
2012-05-22 11:01:09 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running


They've fully pussified the pistol shooting and gone from .22s, then to airguns, and now to lasers.

/Shouting "pew pew" as you fire strictly optional.
 
2012-05-22 11:02:43 AM  
There is still, technically "duelling" pistol in the Olympics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_metre_pistol

Ladies only.
 
2012-05-22 11:13:15 AM  
The swimming obstacle race sounds awesome.
 
2012-05-22 11:31:23 AM  

The Smails Kid: Rapmaster2000: Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running

They've fully pussified the pistol shooting and gone from .22s, then to airguns, and now to lasers.

/Shouting "pew pew" as you fire strictly optional.


Yeah, but changing the total points format to handicapping the final event (the run) based on the previous four rounds was a good call. Much more exciting.
 
2012-05-22 11:41:05 AM  
Softball and cricket seem like naturals. Both sports have appeal around the world, if not in every country. (Then again, we have an entire Olympics dedicated to sports that require snow and/or ice.)

I love the Olympics, but my general problem is that there are too many events that are "Exactly like Event X, but twice as far."

The 12-hour bicycle race, and/or a running equivalent, sounds like a nice variation on all the long-distance events, especially if the running was done outdoors, regardless of weather.

The 1896 Olympics had rope climbing. That's something different. The 56-pound weight throw sounds watchable.

Not sure about motorboat racing except for the humor value.

Pigeon Racing, I could do without. Singlestick, which is basically fencing with wooden clubs, sounds like a slow version of saber. I have no idea what "club swinging" is, but it can probably stay dead.

Finally, this crap needs to stay the hell out of my Olympics. An architecture contest? Maybe if you had to actually build it, using only hand tools, in two hours.
 
2012-05-22 12:08:46 PM  
"Swinging" and "Motorboating" would easily be the two most watched events if they brought them back.


Oh wait those weren't the real events?
 
2012-05-22 12:24:39 PM  
I think I'd prefer just about any of these to racewalking. I still don't understand how that's an Olympic 'sport'. Are there any other self-handicapping sports (not games with rules, mind you, like football)? I suppose the various swimming strokes are kind of like that...
 
2012-05-22 12:24:53 PM  

chimp_ninja: I love the Olympics, but my general problem is that there are too many events that are "Exactly like Event X, but twice as far."


The 100m, 200m, 400m, 800m ... come on. Run 100m, 400m and Marathon.

I also don't like team sports in the olympics. I think it should all be individual sports.. relays are ok.

They should get rid of fencing and sabre and just have sword fights. Blunted swords, armored combatants, and they fight until somebody delivers a "lethal blow" They can kick and punch. That'd be great.
 
2012-05-22 12:27:32 PM  
7. Sixteen-man naval rowing boats with cox, 1906

I don't know... Why can't they just use oars or paddles like everyone else?
 
2012-05-22 12:42:48 PM  

The Smails Kid: There is still, technically "duelling" pistol in the Olympics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25_metre_pistol

Ladies only.


Interesting fact: until 1984 all shooting events were mixed. And some were still mixed until 1992.

In my opinion, if they wanted a more exciting/interesting shooting event, they should integrate an IPSC or IDPA style event. If they wanted it to be really cool, require that the event be run with whatever the athlete's home country's military uses as standard basic equipment for rifle/shotgun/pistol events. This would also eliminate race guns, but would also mean Bermuda would never qualify.

Also, tug of war would be awesome.
 
2012-05-22 12:56:52 PM  

Tom_Slick: I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.


I'd watch Tug of War and some cricket. I don't think "dueling" has any appeal, since it's shooting an object.
 
2012-05-22 01:04:32 PM  
I'd love competitive dueling set up in a 1-on-1 round robin format, followed by a tournament to determine the medalists.

Just use paintball guns or some kind of laser sensing equipment. Standard dueling rules (let's say 10 paces, dueling starts at the drop of a handkerchief, first blood wins), but if no one gets hit initially set up some obstacles where contestants can take cover and have a good old-fashioned shoot out.

So it doesn't take forever, limit each contestant to six shots (like a standard revolver) and call it a draw if neither side hits after using their shots of after 2 minutes.
 
2012-05-22 01:10:27 PM  

skrame: Tom_Slick: I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.

I'd watch Tug of War and some cricket. I don't think "dueling" has any appeal, since it's shooting an object.


I would like Tug of War on the final day, but you can only use people who competed in other events (and probably put limits like 2 per sport or must use a gymnist).
 
2012-05-22 01:12:34 PM  
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/would have liked to see Hide and Seek brought back
 
2012-05-22 01:36:05 PM  

bacongood: skrame: Tom_Slick: I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.

I'd watch Tug of War and some cricket. I don't think "dueling" has any appeal, since it's shooting an object.

I would like Tug of War on the final day, but you can only use people who competed in other events (and probably put limits like 2 per sport or must use a gymnist).


Oh, or randomly picked from your list of attending athletes.
 
2012-05-22 01:44:56 PM  

Spade: bacongood: skrame: Tom_Slick: I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.

I'd watch Tug of War and some cricket. I don't think "dueling" has any appeal, since it's shooting an object.

I would like Tug of War on the final day, but you can only use people who competed in other events (and probably put limits like 2 per sport or must use a gymnist).

Oh, or randomly picked from your list of attending athletes.


If it's random, I'm betting on one of the Pacific Island countries. Or one of those former Soviet countries that brings mostly shot-putters and weightlifters... and that's just the women's team.

Definitely not a country in north Africa or something. You'll end up with a bunch of 120-lb distance runners.
 
2012-05-22 02:05:09 PM  
All more worthy than ballroom dancing.

Most more worthy than golf.

A few more worthy than American football.

None more worthy than rugby.
 
2012-05-22 02:08:06 PM  

Here Comes Everybody: The swimming obstacle race sounds awesome.


I agree, that one sounds the most intresting.
 
2012-05-22 02:19:13 PM  

chimp_ninja: Spade: bacongood: skrame: Tom_Slick: I like the Tug of War idea, good final day event for medals and bragging rights.

I'd watch Tug of War and some cricket. I don't think "dueling" has any appeal, since it's shooting an object.

I would like Tug of War on the final day, but you can only use people who competed in other events (and probably put limits like 2 per sport or must use a gymnist).

Oh, or randomly picked from your list of attending athletes.

If it's random, I'm betting on one of the Pacific Island countries. Or one of those former Soviet countries that brings mostly shot-putters and weightlifters... and that's just the women's team.

Definitely not a country in north Africa or something. You'll end up with a bunch of 120-lb distance runners.


Or we can just say screw it, make them use the female beach volleyball players and put a lot of water in the mudpit. Also, the winners have to help the losers out of the pit.
 
2012-05-22 02:58:30 PM  

IAmRight: Sybarite: [upload.wikimedia.org image 265x250]

Frowns on these shenanigans

ON THE DAY AARON BURR WAS INDICTED FOR THE HAMILTON INCIDENT, TOO.

It's like they learned nothing.

/I would like to see dueling, but not in the sissy Olympic way


It WOULD be interesting to see a pistol dueling competition in the Olympics, using blanks, of course, where competitions faced each other with a single shot gun and tried to be the first to score a hit in predetermined scoring areas of their opponent. The need to balance speed and accuracy would actually make it a great test of shooting skill and it would be entertaining to watch
 
2012-05-22 03:16:48 PM  

skrame: 7. Sixteen-man naval rowing boats with cox, 1906

I don't know... Why can't they just use oars or paddles like everyone else?


No, you're confused -- the cox is for steering. Like the rudder that the Dutch are so famous for.
 
2012-05-22 03:25:41 PM  

Magorn: It WOULD be interesting to see a pistol dueling competition in the Olympics, using blanks, of course


Take all the fun out of it.

/not gonna find a lot of late-bloomers in the sport if you're doing REAL dueling, I suppose
 
2012-05-22 03:42:19 PM  
The 127th Upperclass Twit of the Year Competition.

Link
 
2012-05-22 04:24:03 PM  
Disappointed that Hide and Seek didn't make the list. Link
 
2012-05-22 05:06:29 PM  
3. Dueling pistol, 1906

I forget - where were the 1906 Olympics held? Pandora, Lemuria, or Hy-Brasil?

Rapmaster2000: Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running


lafrance.com
Finished fifth at the 1912 Games in Stockholm.
 
2012-05-22 05:21:38 PM  

puckrock2000: 3. Dueling pistol, 1906

I forget - where were the 1906 Olympics held? Pandora, Lemuria, or Hy-Brasil?


In Athens, though the IOC no longer recognizes it as an official Olympic Games. Link
 
2012-05-22 08:53:50 PM  

puckrock2000: 3. Dueling pistol, 1906

I forget - where were the 1906 Olympics held? Pandora, Lemuria, or Hy-Brasil?

Rapmaster2000: Here's a strange event that I didn't know existed.

Modern pentathlon is a sports contest created especially for the Summer Olympic Games by the founder of the modern Games, Baron Pierre de Coubertin, and was first contested in 1912. Coubertin was inspired by the pentathlon event in Ancient Olympic Games, which was modeled after the skills of the ideal soldier at the time. The modern pentathlon simulates the experience of a 19th century cavalry soldier behind enemy lines: he/she must ride an unfamiliar horse, fight with pistol and sword, swim, and run. Therefore, the modern pentathlon event comprises the five sport disciplines:

épée fencing
pistol shooting
200 metre freestyle swimming
show jumping on horseback
3 km cross country running

[lafrance.com image 141x200]
Finished fifth at the 1912 Games in Stockholm.


Silver medalist 1972 Munich games:
www.g6csy.net
 
2012-05-22 10:04:22 PM  
I used to be an olympic buff in my youth and remember seeing that there was a "two-handed javelin event" as mentioned in the article.

Never realized that it was total distance with right and left hand, though. I guess I pictured it as a guy throwing a javelin with two hands at the same time over his head or something. Which was alot more stupid.
 
2012-05-22 10:17:29 PM  

Debeo Summa Credo: I guess I pictured it as a guy throwing a javelin with two hands at the same time over his head or something. Which was alot more stupid.


As soon as you said "two-handed javelin" that's what I thought of. Except for some reason it was pretty much the same as it is one handed, but they brought an arm over just to make it tougher.

/javelin would be cooler if there were bonuses out in the field for hitting targets
//I suppose all field events could benefit from this - these are supposed to be based on war exercises anyway...what good is distance without accuracy?
 
2012-05-23 10:58:56 AM  
Summer Biathlon

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2012-05-23 03:47:51 PM  

IAmRight: //I suppose all field events could benefit from this - these are supposed to be based on war exercises anyway...what good is distance without accuracy?


Well, if you're just one of 1,000 javelineers, accuracy doesn't really mean too much. As long as everyone can aim in the general vicinity of the target, a few are bound to get hit. Just like archery squads, though archers were sometimes used as single snipers, which is why their contests are based on accuracy rather than distance.
 
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