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2012-05-22 02:20:35 AM
I realize that theaters aren't particularily well lit during a movie, but how can you confuse a 10-year old for an adult? Not only is there a size difference, but a 10-year old's voice sounds a lot different than that of an adult man.

Having said that, the guy should have complained to the manager if the kid & whomever was with him wouldn't quiet down & behave.
 
2012-05-22 02:26:41 AM
Loud kids throwing popcorn refusing to quiet down?

Obviously you shouldn't slap them in the face hard enough to lose a tooth. But I can't say where I'm not sympathetic to the plight.

Personally, I'd like the law to reflect that your children aren't other people's problem and punish parents as well when incidents like this occur. But a tooth? I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.
 
2012-05-22 02:46:23 AM

doglover: I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.


Most likely the tooth was already loose; a baby tooth.
 
2012-05-22 03:13:15 AM

Frederick: doglover: I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.

Most likely the tooth was already loose; a baby tooth.


That's likely, but still no excuse for hitting the kid. There are better ways to handle brats like him, like contacting the manager, who can make them leave.
 
2012-05-22 03:27:43 AM

Bathia_Mapes: Frederick: doglover: I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.

Most likely the tooth was already loose; a baby tooth.

That's likely, but still no excuse for hitting the kid. There are better ways to handle brats like him, like contacting the manager, who can make them leave.


Agreed.

At what age though, did you begin sending your kids to theaters without parental supervision? For mine it was 12. The article does mention a parent...

"Officers arrived to find to find the 10-year-old, his mother and several friends in the theater lobby."

So, was mom elsewhere or was she present and did nothing? I think responsible journalism would answer those questions.
 
2012-05-22 03:39:28 AM

Frederick: Bathia_Mapes: Frederick: doglover: I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.

Most likely the tooth was already loose; a baby tooth.

That's likely, but still no excuse for hitting the kid. There are better ways to handle brats like him, like contacting the manager, who can make them leave.

Agreed.

At what age though, did you begin sending your kids to theaters without parental supervision? For mine it was 12. The article does mention a parent...

"Officers arrived to find to find the 10-year-old, his mother and several friends in the theater lobby."

So, was mom elsewhere or was she present and did nothing? I think responsible journalism would answer those questions.


My son was around 12-13 before I deemed him well behaved enough to go to the movies on his own. I also made certain that he understood misbehaving in the theater would result in his movie attendance privileges being taken away. And when I allowed him to go to the movies again, it would be with an adult until I was assured he would behave on his own.

Since it was multiplex theater (according to a google search, I guessing his mother was in another auditorium than her son.
 
2012-05-22 04:07:05 AM

Bathia_Mapes: That's likely, but still no excuse for hitting the kid


You get a triangle for half right.

Kids aren't hit enough these days. We forget that back in the day other people WOULD hit your children, and you, if those kids got out of line. In fact, it was expected.


Psychology proves that non-hitting is x percent better than hitting in a controlled environment where you can measure these things. In real life, 60,000+ years of human history is shaped by people who were smacked when they got too rowdy.

In the face, losing a tooth, that's a bit much. But to take a kid over your knee and crack their buns with an open hand? Not really a bad thing.
 
2012-05-22 04:11:15 AM

doglover: Bathia_Mapes: That's likely, but still no excuse for hitting the kid

You get a triangle for half right.

Kids aren't hit enough these days. We forget that back in the day other people WOULD hit your children, and you, if those kids got out of line. In fact, it was expected.


Psychology proves that non-hitting is x percent better than hitting in a controlled environment where you can measure these things. In real life, 60,000+ years of human history is shaped by people who were smacked when they got too rowdy.

In the face, losing a tooth, that's a bit much. But to take a kidhot woman over your knee and crack their buns with an open hand? Not really a bad thing.

FTFY
 
2012-05-22 04:16:43 AM

doglover: In the face, losing a tooth, that's a bit much. But to take a kid over your knee and crack their buns with an open hand? Not really a bad thing.


Nowadays that would get a non-family member arrested for assault & a family member investigated for child abuse by CPS.

My kid was fairly well-behaved, but that's because he knew I wouldn't tolerate bullshiat from him. I spanked him maybe twice and saw that didn't really stop his bad behavior. Grounding, taking away privileges and/or possessions like his bike worked much better.

Right after he got a bike on his 10th birthday he rode it into heavy traffic, despite me telling him to stay away from that particular street. He got a spanking for that. A week later, he did it again and lost his bike for a month. Now that doesn't sound like a big deal to some people, but he loved to be able to ride his bike to school and around the neighborhood with his friends. His bike was wheeled into my bedroom, which had a locking doorknob and there it stayed.

He whined about not being able to ride his bike for the first few days and then stopped when he saw I wasn't going to relent.
 
2012-05-22 04:21:44 AM
I once got the manager of a bar to throw some kids out. It's my biggest regret that I didn't smack the little shiat in the face with a pool queue. I don't care that it's a kid and I'm an adult, that shouldn't matter. What should matter is the level of provocation. The kid in this story was being a complete dick and deserved a smack to the face. The guy would only deserve jail time, in my opinion, if he held the boy down and repeatedly punched him in the face.
 
2012-05-22 04:57:50 AM

doglover: Kids aren't hit enough these days. We forget that back in the day other people WOULD hit your children, and you, if those kids got out of line. In fact, it was expected.


*absolute hyperbole*

Slaxl: The kid in this story was being a complete dick and deserved a smack to the face. The guy would only deserve jail time, in my opinion, if he held the boy down and repeatedly punched him in the face.


I bet both of you would get all shooty/stabby with someone who did this to your kid -assuming you have kids (which I tend to doubt). All your kid would have to do, is give you the innocent act and you'd turn on the aggressor violently.

It doesnt take a genius psychologist to figure out your violent tendencies begets violence.

Do you really think this 10yo kid learned to not talk during a movie; or do you think the bigger lesson he learned is strangers are dangerous?

Engaging management is the appropriate action -any rational adult knows this.
 
2012-05-22 05:06:08 AM

Frederick: doglover: Kids aren't hit enough these days. We forget that back in the day other people WOULD hit your children, and you, if those kids got out of line. In fact, it was expected.

*absolute hyperbole*


upload.wikimedia.org

What was your first clue?
 
2012-05-22 05:41:00 AM

doglover: Frederick: doglover: Kids aren't hit enough these days. We forget that back in the day other people WOULD hit your children, and you, if those kids got out of line. In fact, it was expected.

*absolute hyperbole*

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What was your first clue?


oh. uh....I blame Poe's law. carry on.

btw -I never get tired of that chap.
 
2012-05-22 06:13:42 AM
Betcha the brat never throws popcorn on a patron again. Felony? Should be given a medal!
 
2012-05-22 06:27:20 AM
The boy told police he wasn't sure why Kim struck him.

In other words, "I completely deserved it, but I want you to feel sorry for me anyway."
 
2012-05-22 07:04:03 AM

rumpelstiltskin: The boy told police he wasn't sure why Kim struck him.

In other words, "I completely deserved it, but I want you to feel sorry for me anyway."


Or maybe "I am a budding sociopath and take no responsibility for my behavior".

My Campfire group was routinely dropped off at a theater, unsupervised when we were that age but also, this was early 70's and we knew the manager would tell our Mothers if we misbehaved. We enjoyed the privilidge of being out by ourselves.

EnviroDude: Betcha the brat never throws popcorn on a patron again. Felony? Should be given a medal!


Yep.
 
2012-05-22 08:26:21 AM
The hell you say, subby.
 
2012-05-22 08:49:55 AM
Everyone knows you don't slap a kid for doing this! This what Tasers were invented for!
 
2012-05-22 08:56:45 AM
So you're saying there *IS* an appropriate age to smack a movie talker?
 
2012-05-22 10:25:30 AM
Also people, don't take a three-year-old to the ten o'clock showing of the Avengers.

/a little bitter
 
2012-05-22 10:47:05 AM

Slaxl: with a pool queue


A line for billiards?
 
2012-05-22 11:06:55 AM
No, subby, I'm pretty sure I can. Ten year old kids are pretty small.

I probably couldn't do it to a twelve year old, though.
 
2012-05-22 11:08:07 AM
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2012-05-22 11:08:13 AM

The Larch: No, subby, I'm pretty sure I can. Ten year old kids are pretty small.

I probably couldn't do it to a twelve year old, though.


It's all in the aim.
 
2012-05-22 11:08:44 AM
This guy should get the Medal of Honor.
 
2012-05-22 11:12:42 AM
I'm seeing some instances where it's a "slap" and others where it's a "punch." So...uh...which is it?

Oh, who am I kidding? Yong Hyun "Sluggo" Kim is aces in my book, even if he's a little heavy-handed.
 
2012-05-22 11:13:21 AM
I have no sympathy for the annoying brat. Sure, the dude over-reacted, and will have to pay the price legal-wise...but hot damn I bet that kid lost his smirk for a bit. Glad to see a little sniveling punktard get real "street" justice for once. I bet the poor delinquent apeling has a bitter, coddling mommy who keeps him close to the teat and is ready to sue all who approach her urine-colored snowflake.
 
2012-05-22 11:14:38 AM

doglover: I've seen kids jack one another the fark up and narry a tooth was shed. Not even with a board to the face.


I know. It's almost like 10 year old kids are weak little pussies, right? I bet I can knock the teeth out of a kid real easy. But apparently those weak little kids can't punch as hard as I can. God, they're worthless. We should raise taxes on them.
 
2012-05-22 11:16:56 AM
How's he gonna learn?
 
2012-05-22 11:18:35 AM
Sadly there's no footage. So we just have to watch this

/it's almost cathartic after a while
 
2012-05-22 11:21:06 AM
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I'll bet it was Avengers, kid's lucky he only lost one tooth.
 
2012-05-22 11:21:21 AM

KatjaMouse: Sadly there's no footage. So we just have to watch this

/it's almost cathartic after a while


You should see the version of it where it's looped over and over to Led Zeppelin's Achilles' Last Stand on youtube. It's so satisfying.

God I hope Geoffrey dies a horrible death at some point in this series (no spoilers, pretty please).
 
2012-05-22 11:21:50 AM
Eh should have jsut dumped a soda on him and told him to shut the fark up
 
2012-05-22 11:24:20 AM

Optimus Primate: I have no sympathy for the annoying brat. Sure, the dude over-reacted, and will have to pay the price legal-wise...but hot damn I bet that kid lost his smirk for a bit. Glad to see a little sniveling punktard get real "street" justice for once...


It's a nice thought. It's a really nice thought that that one incident makes the little twit go, "Waitaminute. I'm a little twit. I should straighten the fark up." If only for a little bit.

Sadly about all he's going to learn from this is when he acts like a little twit and someone reacts, they're in the wrong and the legal system lays the smack down on them, and his actions hold no consequences.

Swell.
 
2012-05-22 11:24:27 AM

Ennuipoet: Everyone knows you don't slap a kid for doing this! This what Tasers were invented for!


the cut of your jib is astounding, wherever did you get it?

I call shenanigans. A slap will not dislodge a tooth. If he hit the kid that hard, there would be brain damage, as contrary as it would seem with the behavior of the little shiat. Unless he had a blackjack or roll of quarters in a closed fist.

As much as I don't want to disavow that some people simply need to have the tar smacked out of them, you just have to realize that it just can not be done anymore without an awful lot of headache. Be smarter than that.

haven't been to movies in years. Last time I went, pre-cataract surgery, I kept seeing blue flares of light. Thought I was having some sort of retinal meltdown. Turned out to be cellphones of the twats who can't be out of touch for 105 minutes to see a movie. This is not limited to any age, it is across the spectrum, but heavily skewed towards the young.

/I shut my phone off
//nobody died, the world did not stop spinning, the sun rose in the ...what direction does it rise in again?
 
2012-05-22 11:24:44 AM
www.frattoys.com
 
2012-05-22 11:25:35 AM
Yeah, it was dumb to hit the kid. But I don't think he should be charged with a felony for it. A 10 year old missing a tooth? Wow, it's almost like they just fall out by themselves at that age. So the kid either learned to not talk during movies, or he learned that you shouldn't piss of strangers. Either way, it's a good lesson to learn, even if it was a stupid one to teach.

For the people saying he should have talked to a manager, that's not always an option. Last movie I went to (a couple weeks ago) I had to go to the snack counter to find an employee because the previews and credits were playing with sound only. I don't think there was anyone over 20 working there.
 
2012-05-22 11:25:43 AM

Frederick: Do you really think this 10yo kid learned to not talk during a movie; or do you think the bigger lesson he learned is strangers are dangerous?


Strangers ARE dangerous. I wish more kids knew that, particularly the kids in my apartment building that keep trying to talk to me. But even an adult who believes other people are inclined towards violence in reaction to obnoxiousness should keep a low profile. And if everyone is polite and quiet, the world will be a better place.
 
2012-05-22 11:25:53 AM
Kim allegedly said he thought the boy was an adult when he slapped him in the face.

Officer, he had a very very very big face.....and a full beard.
 
2012-05-22 11:26:24 AM
I think we all learned something here. 10 year olds today are too f*cking fat.
 
2012-05-22 11:26:34 AM
Theaters generally have patrolling security for just this reason. Not saying they're omniscient, and the guy should have gone to the manager anyway, but the security folks need to be on the ball for things like this. I'm not sure where people are on edge more, movie theaters or airplanes.
 
2012-05-22 11:29:58 AM

Cythraul: KatjaMouse: Sadly there's no footage. So we just have to watch this

/it's almost cathartic after a while

You should see the version of it where it's looped over and over to Led Zeppelin's Achilles' Last Stand on youtube. It's so satisfying.

God I hope Geoffrey dies a horrible death at some point in this series (no spoilers, pretty please).


Everyone dies horrible deaths. The subtitle of most of the books is "Everyone Dies". A Game of Thrones: Everyone Dies. A Clash of KIngs: Everyone Dies. A Storm of Swords: Everyone Dies. A Feast for Crows: Half of Everyone Left Dies. A Dance With Dragons: The Other Half of Everyone Left Dies.
 
2012-05-22 11:30:57 AM
But I bet it's the last time the little asshole talks during a movie.
 
2012-05-22 11:32:00 AM

Bathia_Mapes: ... His bike was wheeled into my bedroom, which had a locking doorknob and there it stayed.

He whined about not being able to ride his bike for the first few days and then stopped when he saw I wasn't going to relent.


And the bold text, kids, is Good Parenting.

Never, ever, relent. Even if you, on second thought when not annoyed, realize that perhaps you are being too harsh, stick to your guns and make it up to them later.

My son once tried some stuff and I threatened to remove this Winnie-the-Pooh 'playfort' from his room. When he persisted, I went into the room, dismantled the fort and put it in my closet. He so upset that even his big sister was pleading his case to me. But to this day, the threat of 'clean your room .... or I will clean it for you.' has teeth because they know I WILL do it.
 
2012-05-22 11:33:32 AM

lymond01: Theaters generally have patrolling security for just this reason. Not saying they're omniscient, and the guy should have gone to the manager anyway, but the security folks need to be on the ball for things like this. I'm not sure where people are on edge more, movie theaters or airplanes.


And why should the adult miss part of the movie? I elect there should be some device in the theater, a button that could be pushed to alert someone. That way, the person could track the lil bastard if he/she tries to move as not to get caught.
 
2012-05-22 11:33:46 AM

radiovox: But I bet it's the last time the little asshole talks during a movie.


You just know it was this kid's buddies causing all the trouble. He was the one feeling bad, and wishing they'd be quiet. But, he didn't want to be thought of as uncool by his friends, so he didn't shush them. Then he gets a little free tae kwon do lesson. That's how luck works.
 
2012-05-22 11:35:03 AM
Whatever the law says, you can't just go around slapping kids who annoy you. You might hurt your hand if they have braces.
 
2012-05-22 11:35:11 AM
His big mistake was not quickly and quietly leaving the theater. Dumbass now has a felony record, and surly a lawsuit coming.

Still, you shouldn't hit children, no matter how much they "deserve" it. Try the Manager first, if no results screaming "I love you!" in german 4 feet from him usually scares the shiat out of punks.
 
2012-05-22 11:35:14 AM

Cythraul:

You should see the version of it where it's looped over and over to Led Zeppelin's Achilles' Last Stand on youtube. It's so satisfying.
.


I would love to see that, but what am I looking for?
 
2012-05-22 11:37:21 AM
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Homer Simpson doesn't see a problem with this.

\\obscure?
 
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