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(Huffington Post)   "Christian" pastor calls for gays to be imprisoned in an electrified pen until they die. A Taliban spokesman commented: "Seriously? Don't you think that's a bit over-the-top?"   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2012-05-21 07:40:39 PM  
38 votes:
As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.
2012-05-21 07:56:40 PM  
13 votes:
Aw, isn't that cute. I know we're not supposed to Godwin, but come on. This guy in nearly every shape wants to create Nazi concentration camps. The only thing he didn't say is that we should have pink triangles stitched to our clothes.

Disgusting.

If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.
2012-05-21 06:06:38 PM  
13 votes:
extremism in ANY religion is bad.
2012-05-21 08:44:28 PM  
12 votes:
I always hear blanket statements from Christians regarding the Muslim faith all being terrorists because they don't do enough to denounce the crazies among them. Well, Christians, here's an example of a crazy among you who is just as vile as those that committed the attacks of 9-11. He condones mass murder; he is calling for it. The only difference is that those guys actually had the balls to go through with their horrible plans, while this guy is most likely just a cowardly raging pussy that can't handle someone being a little different than him. I'm willing to bet that, with the exception of a few individuals here, this man's sickening and violent rhetoric will not be denounced to any major extent. This is why I despise Christianity. It isn't that one crazy says something like this; it's that the powers that be within your organization will turn a blind eye to it while condemning others for doing the same thing.
2012-05-21 08:36:56 PM  
11 votes:
pics.livejournal.com

This seems appropriate.
2012-05-21 08:56:40 PM  
9 votes:
Leviticus 19:18

King James Version (KJV)

18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.
2012-05-21 06:24:39 PM  
9 votes:
See, this sounds like someone confusing 'sinful' with 'distasteful.' Do you think he has that kind of visceral 'ewwww' reaction to all sin? Do you think someone who steals paperclips from the office or skims a bit off the travel account makes him want to vomit?
2012-05-21 10:38:46 PM  
7 votes:

dennysgod: What the "gay" debate would look like if Christians practiced what Jesus preached.

Christian: You know homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of the Lord.
Homosexual: What's your point.
Christian: To enter into heaven and feel Gods love you might want to change your ways.
Homosexual: Na. I'm cool.
Christian: Well, I'll pray for your soul and I'll be available should you change your mind and want to follow the path to eternal salvation.
Homosexual: Ok, but don't hold your breath.


The End.


Christian: God loves everyone.
Homosexual: Cool.

FTFE
2012-05-21 06:09:39 PM  
7 votes:
He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

So, it's genetic then?
2012-05-21 10:36:26 PM  
6 votes:
What the "gay" debate would look like if Christians practiced what Jesus preached.

Christian: You know homosexuality is a sin in the eyes of the Lord.
Homosexual: What's your point.
Christian: To enter into heaven and feel Gods love you might want to change your ways.
Homosexual: Na. I'm cool.
Christian: Well, I'll pray for your soul and I'll be available should you change your mind and want to follow the path to eternal salvation.
Homosexual: Ok, but don't hold your breath.

The End.
2012-05-21 10:35:39 PM  
6 votes:
I blame all the hetrosexual couples. They are the ones that keep having gay babies.
2012-05-21 08:55:53 PM  
6 votes:
He should be classified as a terrorist
2012-05-21 08:42:35 PM  
6 votes:
can you imagine kissing some man?

Sure I can.. but I bet you imagine it a lot more frequently than I.
2012-05-21 08:11:10 PM  
6 votes:

gilgigamesh: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.

oh there's a couple of gods out there that would agree with this ranting...they're just not christian ones.

couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.

...Yahweh....

*cough*


Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though. I think he was more into dicking with your mind then actually being 'evil'. sort of like having a big brother who really does try to do the right thing, but goes about it all wrong.

Then there's Christ, who's actually a pretty decent god. his followers though...yeesh. some of those guys either didn't get the message or they're just working for some of the old gods and/or demons and using Christ as camoflage. Or maybe the old ones ganged up on Jesus and murdered him and keep his skinned corpse around as a shared disguse. At any rate, a lot of people pretend to follow the Christian god but don't actually do anything he said that his followers should be doing.

And last - but not least - there's the Holy Spirit. Who gets something of a bad rap. sort of like the silent, creepy younger brother. he hangs around and inspires people. sort of like a muse...he fires you up and then lets you loose to do your stuff. In theory, Christ is supposed to direct that passion to do good things...but given how many people aren't actually doing Christ's work, mostly that passion gets misdirected. so these days, the Spirit sort of gave up and works at skate parks in southern california.
2012-05-21 10:52:53 PM  
5 votes:

LesserEvil:

Christianity is pretty much powerless to do anything like this idiot preacher's vision, and it's doubtful anybody would ever let someone like him get that power in this country... in other words, his brand of extremism is powerless, impotent in today's world. Giving them a voice outside of their narrow minded (and in most cases, unable to change) cult members is dumb and only serves to give them a greater audience - even legitimizing their opinions to those that might otherwise remain on the fence.


1. We live in a country where a very large portion of the populace believe communism and Nazism are the same thing, where a sizable minority thinks the president was born in Kenya and where roughly half believe the world was created 6000 years ago? I personally do not have enough faith in the American population to recognize that it's bad to put an extremist who says crazy things into office (see: Rick Santorum got a lot of votes, and he wouldn't let his daughter abort her rape baby)

2. The NSDAP started with only 50 members in 1923. They fed off the fears of the masses (and abused crummy constitutional rules like emergency powers) and managed to get themselves in power to enact their heinous agenda in a little over a decade. Do you really think it's impossible for the combination of the Filibuster and Citizens United to instate some crazy nonsense like this in the US? In the country that had legal subjugation of minority races until the 1960s?
2012-05-21 10:47:24 PM  
5 votes:
Funny how these dirtbags don't have the same anger and hatred when discussing priests who rape and torture little boys....

assholes.
2012-05-21 10:45:52 PM  
5 votes:

LesserEvil: Just curious, those Farkers here who believe this guy is worse than Osama Bin-Laden: Do you think his audience are sheep, and believe everything he says? Does this preacher have the power to sway his "mob" to think the same way he does, to hate gays enough to pen them up? To blame them for whatever of the country's ills, this idiot preacher claims?

Does this guy have that much influence on his followers? Are the sort of "Christians" who attend his sermons all like that, because, after all, they go to his services and donate money to his church?

Honest question.


www.bittenandbound.com

I don't know. Why don't you ask Dr. Tiller.
2012-05-21 09:35:38 PM  
5 votes:
Feed him to the lions. If he lives, then God wants us to do this to the gays. If he dies, then he was a false prophet. Let God decide.
2012-05-21 08:14:47 PM  
5 votes:
You know who else wanted to put gay people in camps until they die?
2012-05-21 06:45:44 PM  
5 votes:
He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

Gay /=sterile, numbnuts.
2012-05-21 11:36:38 PM  
4 votes:

LesserEvil: Germany was ripe for National Socialism. Defeated by their ancient enemies (with centuries of wars behind them), drowning in hyper-inflated marks, backed into a corner by powers that were just revealing themselves as ultimately toothless, it was ripe for that sort of transformation. Education was limited to the practical. Social equality simply didn't exist then.

America would fall into anarchy before tyrannical rule could hold power here. Even that would take decades of punishment by idiotic policies, economic failure and more impossibly, a total collapse of the US Dollar (considering there is probably more cash held around the world, and it is still universally used in markets ranging from black to legit, I doubt that could ever happen.)

On that note, I'm signing off of this argument. Have a good night.



Too bad, because fascism isn't a style of government. Nazism was only a totalitarian government, a dictatorship of no particular distinction, after all. Fascism is first and foremost a popular movement. All fascism is, is ultranationalism. The mistake people have made for the last 70 years is to try to equate Nazis with fascism and assure themselves that no Nazi government could ever arise again. That's true; but only because it would never need to. Fascism can arise under ANY form of government; and right now, America is more fascist than it has been than at any time in our history. A democracy is probably MORE prone to fascism because the only thing that keeps a democracy together is a sense of nationalism. We have no monarch to hold us together in a crisis, we have no shared religion. What we have is a sense of exceptionalism, of our nation as special and unique, which is what Paxton called "stage one fascism."

The basic elements of fascism are:
* A cult of tradition or an overwhelming nostalgia for an idealized past, combined with a rejection of modernity, EXCEPT for a fascination for high-tech military equipment.

* A belief in a nebulous yet all-powerful enemy. A simultaneous belief in the might and superiority of the enemy, yet a supreme confidence that that enemy can and will be defeated by OUR purity and power.

* A fear of compromise, which is seen as weakness; and a dislike of diversity in any form (culture, religion, language, education). This is combined with an overall fear of peace, unless it is OUR peace, dictated by OUR terms.

* The "right of the people" is paramount, and the "rights of the individual" must be subverted to the rights of the state; and especially where the rights of the "people" are seen as being threatened by any of the above enemies, diversities, weaknesses or traditions.

I mean, does this sound like a country you might be living in today? A country obsessed with fears of an overwhelming "Islamofascism" that manages to be strong yet weak; a country run by people who never want to compromise and hate anyone who isn't like them? And who long for a perfect past when nothing was wrong? We don't need to have Nazis in full regalia to have fascism. We've got it already, right now.
2012-05-21 11:28:37 PM  
4 votes:

teeny: I usually get a little depressed in the Christian/religious bashing threads. But this is officially 100x more depressing. Living a life that emulates Christ should be an honorable thing...nothing like this pastor's hate-driven derp. Never once in the recorded life of Christ did he condemn being homosexual as being any worse than other sins. In fact, the only righteous anger he ever showed was for the money changers, and I don't see any pastors crucifying them.

I would have made a big, showy protest about walking out in the middle of this nozzle's speech.


A billion times this. The only time Christ ever got furious and lost his shiat was when people were using the church to make themselves lots of money.
2012-05-21 11:21:20 PM  
4 votes:
As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.
2012-05-21 11:17:20 PM  
4 votes:
I usually get a little depressed in the Christian/religious bashing threads. But this is officially 100x more depressing. Living a life that emulates Christ should be an honorable thing...nothing like this pastor's hate-driven derp. Never once in the recorded life of Christ did he condemn being homosexual as being any worse than other sins. In fact, the only righteous anger he ever showed was for the money changers, and I don't see any pastors crucifying them.

I would have made a big, showy protest about walking out in the middle of this nozzle's speech.
2012-05-21 10:45:39 PM  
4 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-05-21 09:52:38 PM  
4 votes:

Weaver95: Oh, and before we get too much into 'OMG all christianz iz lik dis!!111!1!' consider that this pastor is a baptist. they're the guys who give fire and brimstone hellfire preachers indigestion.


You'd be surprised. I'd be willing to be far more Christians agree with this guy on some level than completely disagree. They may not want all gays in a pen to die off, but only because they don't have the balls to take it to its logical conclusion.

it's a rare Christian indeed, in my experience, who is completely okay with my not following their lifestyle choices.
2012-05-21 09:51:46 PM  
4 votes:

Weaver95: nutball who suddenly gets really quiet and develops an interest in paying for rental trucks with fake IDs and money orders...that's a problem.


Well, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, nationalist groups and militias are fast approaching their 1990's apex. Combine all the derp with an economy that realized it was solely existing on credit and home equity loans? Yeah, there are plenty of those groups out there, and their Lone wolf offspring. I'm surprised they haven't made a few moves yet. It's just a matter of when. I won't be shocked. In fact, I bet you they get a PTSD soldier to do it. Someone's who's in severe mental and physical anguish, easily corruptible and agitated because of the medication they're on. It practically writes itself.

I can see why DHS issued the warning they did about the danger of Real Americans™... They don't need religion as much these days. Plenty of just hate for hate's sake is drivin' these boys.
2012-05-21 09:33:42 PM  
4 votes:

cameroncrazy1984: The pastor delivered his address from Narnia.


I can't see Kings Peter and Edmund, as well as Queens Susan and Lucy---ever allowing the treatment of fellow Sons of Adam and Daughters of Eve this way.
2012-05-21 09:08:45 PM  
4 votes:

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Weaver95: nah. far as preachers go, he's fairly mild.

A Taliban by any other name would still be a religious extremist

/I say watch list 'im


I honestly don't care what someone preaches about from their pulpit. hellfire, love and respect, be nice to kittens, murder gays in their sleep...it's all good. they can stand up there and talk 'till they're blue in the face. it's when the nutballs get quiet that I start to worry. up in public? have at it junior. nutball who suddenly gets really quiet and develops an interest in paying for rental trucks with fake IDs and money orders...that's a problem.
2012-05-21 09:02:23 PM  
4 votes:
Jesus wore a robe and sandals for day to day business, had long hair, hung out almost exclusively with men except for prostitutes and loved wine enough to create it out of water.

And, he had two Dads.

The example is there, fundtards.
2012-05-21 08:51:24 PM  
4 votes:
Shiat like this makes me weep for my country.
2012-05-21 08:47:05 PM  
4 votes:
Oh, and before we get too much into 'OMG all christianz iz lik dis!!111!1!' consider that this pastor is a baptist. they're the guys who give fire and brimstone hellfire preachers indigestion.
2012-05-21 07:56:18 PM  
4 votes:

Gwendolyn: Hoban Washburne: As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.

Oooo. I hadn't thought of that.


It's effectively why I consider myself a citizen of New Orleans, but not Louisiana.
2012-05-21 06:33:38 PM  
4 votes:
If he's saying that only homosexuals produce homosexuals, then I assume all those alleged heterosexual couples producing homosexual children are really homosexuals themselves and should also be penned up.

RIGHT?
2012-05-21 06:30:15 PM  
4 votes:

dameron: He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

So, it's genetic then?


You know what, though? If you put all the heterosexual males inside in electrified pen, they would reproduce!
2012-05-22 04:29:20 AM  
3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Boatmech: AverageAmericanGuy: LittleSmitty: If GOD hates gay people so much, how come "DON'T BE GAY" isn't one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Seems to me it would be if God hates teh ghey so much.

Why would you artificially limit God to ten commandments? There are over 600 commandments, not including those in the Talmud.

The road to Hell is paved with "seems t me".

What's the difference between 10 or 600?
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These artificial limits do have consequences for real world people. This god thing is a myth

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

f anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

May you find Jesus before you spend eternity in fiery torment.


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And may you receive proper medical care for your mental illness.
2012-05-22 02:30:22 AM  
3 votes:
"Christian" is right. Vile, filthy, evil little worm. Him and everyone like him.

Your god tells you to love and tolerate and care for others, and you vermin twist it into a battle cry of hatred, fear, bigotry, and death. You snip out what you want to follow from his supposed book that tells you in no uncertain terms to love your neighbor as yourself and to judge not lest you be judged, and ignore everything that doesn't fit your little filth fantasy. You obsess with the idea of buttsex far more than even the most nympho bottom twink could ever do, and why? Because the idea of two people who love each other and happen to have the same gonads just drives you absolutely farking insane.

You're backwards savages, desperately clinging to fading customs and irrelevant traditions. You know your time is near, and you're going to cause as much damage as possible before you're gone. The world will be much better off with your kind gone. Maybe we'll finally be able to achieve what the Constitution of this country has told us for more than two centuries, that all are created equal.

Begone, demons masquerading as men.
2012-05-22 01:47:44 AM  
3 votes:

Nightmaretony: pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.

I thank you Pastor Steve as it gives me and others hope that there are those who still know the word of God being a message of love and not of hatred. This "colleague" is a wolf in sheep's clothing, sowing hatred and evil. Thank you for still remembering and keeping the Word alive.


Nice to see you guys congratulating yourselves on be such fine, upstanding christians.
Are you going to actually do anything besides 'pray' these people will change?
2012-05-22 12:39:12 AM  
3 votes:

Kali-Yuga: That's the beauty of it, the apologists don't even have to make excuses for it, they can just hide behind the No true Scotsman fallacy. See the dozens of examples of it above.


I think we need a pithy name for what I'll tentatively call the "No true Scotsman fallacy fallacy" which goes a little something like this:

A: Group X is just a horrible group of evil bigots! Every member of group X is a hateful bigot. All of them!
B: Wait a minute, I'm a member of group X and I'm not a bigot. In fact, I vehemently oppose the hateful bigotry that some of my fellow Group X-ians espouse. So we're not all hateful bigots!
A: Aaaah! No true Scotsman fallacy!
B: Sigh.
2012-05-21 11:23:39 PM  
3 votes:

pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.


Actually, you're out of the mainstream because you're a decent person who doesn't use your religion as a tool for political power.
2012-05-21 10:45:22 PM  
3 votes:

LesserEvil: Just curious, those Farkers here who believe this guy is worse than Osama Bin-Laden: Do you think his audience are sheep, and believe everything he says? Does this preacher have the power to sway his "mob" to think the same way he does, to hate gays enough to pen them up? To blame them for whatever of the country's ills, this idiot preacher claims?


The Republicans certainly think Jeremiah Wright has that power.
2012-05-21 10:42:29 PM  
3 votes:
Christ was about loving everyone.

This pastor has missed the point entirely, and shaped Jesus' message to serve his own desires.

Like so many before him.
2012-05-21 10:28:54 PM  
3 votes:
I've been saying this all along (I even said it in my letter to the editor of Raleigh, NC's newspaper the News & Observer: my letter got published right before the primary): the christian bible is an article of faith, NOT FACT! The same goes for all "holy scripts". They are so wrong about so many things in reality.

I'll keep saying this until I'm blue in the face and fall over!

Not a single religion can prove that their version of god is the one true one (I'm talking empirical data using the scientific method). The ONLY thing we can be sure of is ourselves and each other and our relationships with each other.

Homosexuality has been with us since the dawn of humankind. It may be unusual in relation to the number of the populace, but it's not unnatural. It's not a choice, there's no biological gene, it's simply a state of being.

This so called pastor and those who think like him are a disgrace to the human race.
2012-05-21 10:27:24 PM  
3 votes:
So the second part of his sermon was all about who not to vote for ...

Why is this guy tax exempt still???
2012-05-21 10:24:19 PM  
3 votes:

Hoban Washburne: As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.


No shiat. If you're planning a vacation to Disney World, be sure to do it during "gay days". All the fundies boycott during that time, and everyone else who goes is extraordinarily polite, and a hell of a lot of fun.
2012-05-21 10:00:39 PM  
3 votes:
Wow, so much hatred...probably self-hatred.
2012-05-21 09:49:35 PM  
3 votes:
If we put toddlers in a pen, they'll die off. They won't reproduce. Eventually all toddlers will die out.

If we put priests in a pen, they'll die off. They won't reproduce. Oh sure, they'll assign someone to be the designated altar boy, but that won't help.

If we put senior citizens...
2012-05-21 09:35:26 PM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.


Oh please, we have blood sacrifices all the time--we just do it in the name of the State rather than some other God. That's what military service is all about.
2012-05-21 09:32:22 PM  
3 votes:

WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.


No. If there is a God who agrees with this man, it should never be worshipped, and instead a means to destroy it should be found as soon as possible so that other Gods and Goddesses (and us humans) don't have to put up with this shiat.
2012-05-21 09:03:46 PM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: nah. far as preachers go, he's fairly mild.


A Taliban by any other name would still be a religious extremist

/I say watch list 'im
2012-05-21 08:01:51 PM  
3 votes:

Weaver95: WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.

oh there's a couple of gods out there that would agree with this ranting...they're just not christian ones.

couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.


...Yahweh....

*cough*
2012-05-21 07:47:45 PM  
3 votes:

Chariset: See, this sounds like someone confusing 'sinful' with 'distasteful.' Do you think he has that kind of visceral 'ewwww' reaction to all sin? Do you think someone who steals paperclips from the office or skims a bit off the travel account makes him want to vomit?


And by vomit, he meant vomit sperm out of his penis.

Yeah yeah its a stereotype, but goddamn if this isn't an example of protesting too much I don't know what is.
2012-05-22 10:12:36 AM  
2 votes:
He made three very political statements in his sermon: He was disappointed in the president's decision to support gay marriage, that he would "not vote for a baby killer and a homosexual", and that he could not get his internment plan through the congress. Can we sic the IRS on him for political campaigning while representing a tax-exempt organization, please?
2012-05-22 05:48:05 AM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: Boatmech: AverageAmericanGuy: LittleSmitty: If GOD hates gay people so much, how come "DON'T BE GAY" isn't one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Seems to me it would be if God hates teh ghey so much.

Why would you artificially limit God to ten commandments? There are over 600 commandments, not including those in the Talmud.

The road to Hell is paved with "seems t me".

What's the difference between 10 or 600?
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These artificial limits do have consequences for real world people. This god thing is a myth

The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."

f anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town.

May you find Jesus before you spend eternity in fiery torment.


Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Your bible seems to be different than mine. I mean that in the sense that mine has been read.
2012-05-22 05:29:58 AM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though. I think he was more into dicking with your mind then actually being 'evil'.


The Bible is a litany of Yaweh's atrocities against man.

1) He had two she-bears rip 42 children to shreds because they called a priest "baldy." Nope. Not exaggerating. Look up the story of Elisha.

2) He drowned every man, woman, and child on the planet, except 7.

3) He lied to Adam and Eve, telling them they would die "in that day" they ate the fruit. They didn't. In fact, their eyes were opened, and Adam went on to live another 900 years.

4) He stopped humankind from achieving its potential by arbitrarily smashing the Tower of Babel. Not because the tower was "sinful" mind you. But just because if he didn't, humans would really be able to accomplish some sh*t. The very of idea of it just pissed him off.

5) He f*cked up Job's whole life on a bet. What if Job had LOST his faith?

6) He psyched out Abraham and his son with the whole "blood for the Blood God" bit.

7) He slaughtered babies and young children in Egypt to punish Pharoah for a choice Yaweh compelled him to make.

8) In Numbers, Israel complains that Yaweh is killing too many of them. So Yahweh kills 14,000 more of them with a plague.

9) In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they are allowed to rape as spoils of war.

10) He sacrificed himself to himself to change a rule he created, and could have changed with a wave of his hand. Then he said that anyone who dares question that moral absurdity should roast on spits forever for the personal amusement of fundamentalist Christians, laughing at them and raining down piss on them from heaven.

Yahweh is into way more than just dicking with your mind, bud. As Mark Twain said, Yahweh Elohim is a "malign thug."
2012-05-22 04:04:21 AM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: LittleSmitty: If GOD hates gay people so much, how come "DON'T BE GAY" isn't one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Seems to me it would be if God hates teh ghey so much.

Why would you artificially limit God to ten commandments? There are over 600 commandments, not including those in the Talmud.

The road to Hell is paved with "seems t me".


What's the difference between 10 or 600?
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These artificial limits do have consequences for real world people. This god thing is a myth
2012-05-22 01:47:19 AM  
2 votes:

untaken_name: Adultery is defined in biblical terms as sex outside the bounds of marriage. Since men are not allowed to marry men, and women are not allowed to marry women (according to the bible), then any gay sex is, by definition, adultery. So is straight sex between unmarried partners, so it's not SPECIFICALLY anti-gay, but it does entirely exclude any gay sex under any circumstances, so I'm pretty sure it answers your original objection. Now, please stop making me defend things I don't even believe in.


Except there are plenty of instances of God approving the Israelites raping women whom they have conquered without marriage AFTER that commandment.
2012-05-22 01:11:17 AM  
2 votes:
I don't know if there is an afterlife. Even though I'm not christian, that doesn't mean I've ruled out Jesus/God works it. But man, if they do, a lot of 'Christians' are going to be harshly disappointed when they are held accountable for stuff like this.
2012-05-22 01:02:44 AM  
2 votes:
Why the quotes around "Christian"? He's obviously the real deal.
2012-05-22 12:59:14 AM  
2 votes:

s2s2s2: Hell awaits, sodomite!

See Ezekiel 16:49 for an explanation of why I am saying this to this shiathead tool of Satan, the accuser.


And I give a shiat what your god thinks, why, exactly?
2012-05-22 12:14:08 AM  
2 votes:

cmunic8r99: Shiat like this makes me weep for my countryspecies.


Seriously. I don't believe in any of that Mayan 2012 crap, but shiat like this makes me think humanity has already peaked and we're now just circling the bowl waiting to be flushed. Time to let some other species have a go.
2012-05-22 12:08:20 AM  
2 votes:
March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.

May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]

Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:

December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28]
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29]
September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[30] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[31]
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[32]
May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33]
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35]
January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37]
January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[38]

April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported. On April 3, the FBI arrested 50-year-old Francis Grady on charges of "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services".[39]

Anthrax threats

The first hoax letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting; since then, there have been 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[13][40]

November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.

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Yep. Just a homicidal maniac. Nothing to do with anyone in pulpit and in the broadcast booth telling people to kill liberals and BABY KILLERS!!1!

Nothing else. No Christian minister is to blame. No inciting, nothing but good news.
2012-05-21 11:53:51 PM  
2 votes:
I love freedom of speech, but free people pay taxes. It's time to tax the church.
2012-05-21 11:44:24 PM  
2 votes:

pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.


You don't have to apologize. You've done nothing wrong, and in fact speaking out to condemn his remarks is a great thing. I thank you for it.

Here's the problem (and this isn't directed at you personally). All the good will and best wishes from the right side of the aisle doesn't mean a hill of beans until you start voting people who are ok with the gays into elected office. Among the steady stream of anti-gay legislation on both the state and national level, when is the last time you saw or heard a Republican take the floor and say "no, this is wrong?" I can't remember.

Start voting for people who don't hate homosexuals. Start telling candidates that their anti-gay stance is unacceptable. That's the only way true change will come about.
2012-05-21 11:38:46 PM  
2 votes:
What can I say? American conservative Christianity is all about hate. There is no love whatsoever.

Maybe they just think Jesus was a Nazi.
Maybe they are just retarded.
2012-05-21 11:21:23 PM  
2 votes:

LesserEvil: Fair answer, the preacher knows his audience and speaks to them in a like-minded fashion. A religious pundit (who may or may not even believe the crap they spew, but you have to make bank, right?)

Again it comes back to the idea that we shouldn't care what this idiot says. It doesn't change anything as long as it is contained in his church. If he's shouting this in public, on the other hand, feel free to roast him - but otherwise, this just gives him additional publicity he otherwise wouldn't have.

Punditry is a scam. Limbaugh, Beck, Olbermann, Matthews... they get ratings, almost as much from their haters as their fans, and they all could really care less about what happens in politics, as long as it provides fuel for their shows. This preacher is no different. Publicity actually HELPS business, whether it's negative or positive.


That sounds nice, but I don't completely buy it. Do you think that the reason for regional trends in beliefs is just by chance or breeding? No, there actually is some social transmission of ideas from generation to generation. Seeing a certain set of beliefs reinforced continually without anyone saying "you know, maybe the gays aren't really evil and destroying our country" is probably going to end up believing the same thing. Of course I don't advocate censoring or imprisoning this guy, so don't take it to extremes, but that doesn't mean that reasonable people shouldn't stand up to hateful talk when they see it.
2012-05-21 11:15:37 PM  
2 votes:
But it's the gays trying to impose our lifestyle on everyone, right?
2012-05-21 10:56:57 PM  
2 votes:
hmmm wonder when it will come out that he is A) Gay, B) Banging a male hooker, or C) a Pedophile
2012-05-21 10:54:04 PM  
2 votes:

LeoffDaGrate: I think it's funny how, every once in a while, an idiot comes along who says crap that's SO insane that not even randomjsa, tenpoundsofcheese or myrandomname will attempt to defend it.


That's the beauty of it, the apologists don't even have to make excuses for it, they can just hide behind the No true Scotsman fallacy. See the dozens of examples of it above.
2012-05-21 10:51:30 PM  
2 votes:
Perhaps straight people should be sterilized since they keep having gay kids?
2012-05-21 10:38:01 PM  
2 votes:
Submitter: "Christian" pastor calls for gays to be imprisoned in an electrified pen until they die. A Taliban spokesman commented: "Seriously? Don't you think that's a bit over-the-top?"

The Taliban would probably say it's over the top, sure... because why waste all that land when you can just line them up along a ditch and spray AK-47 rounds at them.

Even scarier: The Taliban actually control places with people, unlike this idiot preacher. Not only do they have the power to do this, but they DO do this.


See also: Wahabi Salafism in Saudi Arabia and other emirates.

Christianity is pretty much powerless to do anything like this idiot preacher's vision, and it's doubtful anybody would ever let someone like him get that power in this country... in other words, his brand of extremism is powerless, impotent in today's world. Giving them a voice outside of their narrow minded (and in most cases, unable to change) cult members is dumb and only serves to give them a greater audience - even legitimizing their opinions to those that might otherwise remain on the fence.

Worry more about the jackass extremists who kill people DAILY for their beliefs or biology (race, orientation, sex) RIGHT NOW.
2012-05-21 10:34:55 PM  
2 votes:
He asks his congregation if they could imagine kissing a man, then he just stands there and stares into the abyss. I knew exactly what was going in his mind.
2012-05-21 10:32:03 PM  
2 votes:
I'd rather all the religious nut jobs be imprisoned in an electrified pen until they die.

In the Old Testament, God would smite people like this jerk. Why did God stop smiting people? Why?
2012-05-21 10:31:34 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: extremism in ANY religion is bad.



fixed
2012-05-21 10:30:32 PM  
2 votes:
And by the way - here's another vote for the "What's the over/under on number of days before this asshole gets caught in flagrante delicto with a male escort?" camp.

/Or his male drug dealer
//Or a little boy
2012-05-21 10:06:36 PM  
2 votes:
Hate is as dumb does.
2012-05-21 09:13:54 PM  
2 votes:

Weaver95: Oh, and before we get too much into 'OMG all christianz iz lik dis!!111!1!' consider that this pastor is a baptist. they're the guys who give fire and brimstone hellfire preachers indigestion.


I'm more partial to the Christians that claim that no Christians really believe this kind of stuff.
2012-05-21 08:42:16 PM  
2 votes:
Countdown til he's caught in bed with a GOP 'family rights' politician ...
2012-05-21 08:19:18 PM  
2 votes:

FlashHarry: extremism in ANY religion is bad.



Precisely.
2012-05-21 08:10:04 PM  
2 votes:
Whenever I hear this kind of claptrap I tend to think "Gee, sorry Jimbo didn't let you suck his dick all those decades ago."

And then I think, man, mortality is a blessing.
2012-05-21 08:00:47 PM  
2 votes:

WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.


oh there's a couple of gods out there that would agree with this ranting...they're just not christian ones.

couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.
2012-05-21 07:53:49 PM  
2 votes:

Hoban Washburne: As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.


Oooo. I hadn't thought of that.
2012-05-22 09:37:31 PM  
1 vote:

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: This is the problem with religions like Christianity. So much is up for grabs, and can't be nailed down (no pun intended), that it's pretty much impossible for any one person to definitely claim whole and correct knowledge


True, and IMHO that constitutes sufficient logical proof for the nonexistence of God. Something that can't be defined cannot be said to exist.
2012-05-22 08:29:56 PM  
1 vote:

washington-babylon: I honestly wish we could dismiss out of hand anything that is said by paid scientists... But I am sure that the :Climate change, Evolution Supporters/Attackers, Mars researchers, Physicists, Archaeologists, Etc would have a problem with it. VERY few scientists do unpaid work anymore. And the Köfels "Landslide" has only recently been thought to be a landslide. There is a number of instances where things didn't match a landslide (shocked quartz, possible shatter cones, Rock turned to glass) that continue to cause debate. an iridium analysis has been performed but was not conclusive either way. So Köfels is still in the Theory stage of things and as such should be suspect until better analysis can be made, possibly core samples to look for shatter cones. The date of the Köfels incident is also a matter of serious debate as well. Some findings suggest a date that would correspond to the tablet's description. Others suggest a date as old as 16,000 years ago. Point being that you can't dismiss out of hand the possibility of the tablet's factual account just because Wikipedia says so. There is too little actual work on the Köfels site to be sure. As for the article being from the same sources, it's not like a multitude of people have had access to the tablet at this time or tried to decipher it (only 5 attempts before this one) so of course the articles are going to have the same source. At this point, if you still have issues with the source wait until this team's work can be double-checked by multiple other researchers. Then I am sure you will have a bunch of guys (and gals) saying the same thing. The story will get picked up and re-run by several news agencies and we will hear about it again.


Pray tell, what is your expert background that informs you on all this? I'm genuinely curious. Because I don't know any real scientists who "honestly wish we could dismiss out of hand anything that is said by paid scientists." You don't sound like someone educated in the sciences to me, but someone looking in from the outside who has a poor understanding of what scientists do and how science works. And you don't seem to know what "theory" means in science.
2012-05-22 05:03:01 PM  
1 vote:
Doesn't it blow your mind that this is the year 2012 A.D., and fuqtards like this still have a bully pulpit?
2012-05-22 12:40:15 PM  
1 vote:

NateGrey: Jeremiah Wright. That is all.

/Vote Republican


George W. Bush
That is all.
Vote Democrat
2012-05-22 11:37:24 AM  
1 vote:

cherrydog: engine: ok seriously? Does anyone believe this dude is actually representing Christ? Seriously... Or does every self proclaimed skeptic lose the ability to think critically when they find a "reality" that suits their agenda.

/pot - kettle
/encourages critical thinking

what is this "pot meet kettle" deflection?

i don't even

and wanna bet how many xians and freepers agree with this psycho?


Enough to pay for that huge pretty church, apparently.
2012-05-22 11:35:43 AM  
1 vote:

WorldCitizen: Aw, isn't that cute. I know we're not supposed to Godwin, but come on. This guy in nearly every shape wants to create Nazi concentration camps. The only thing he didn't say is that we should have pink triangles stitched to our clothes.

Disgusting.

If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.


As a Christian, I wouldn't set foot in that man's church or any of the other churches pastored by the people in that list of hateful, asinine, disgusting remarks by so-called "Christians" below the actual article unless it was to point out the following:

'And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him, saying, "Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

He said to him, "What is written in the law? What is your reading of it?"

So he answered and said, " 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and 'your neighbor as yourself.'"

And He said to him, "You have answered rightly; do this and you will live."'


'"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."'


'If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?'


Nowhere does it say, "love only the people who agree with you." Not one single time. These people are NOT Christians and they do not serve God with their hate.
2012-05-22 11:33:59 AM  
1 vote:

doglover: cherrydog: it's pathetic and disrespectful to lesbians as human beings.

Not every time. Trust me.

As for the times it happens, most of the time someone's rubbing things, real lesbians aren't involved. Usually just two actresses who are in it for the money.

And if you're gonna get upset about the internet masturbating to things disrespectfully, you should just go be Amish, though. I mean, have you SEEN the shiat that gets posted in... well you probably haven't and that's for the best.

The beauty of the internet. It doesn't matter who you are or what you think, someone is fapping to everything you ever loved.


it seems you're deliberately missing my points, but whatever
2012-05-22 08:53:16 AM  
1 vote:

chaotey: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.

oh there's a couple of gods out there that would agree with this ranting...they're just not christian ones.

couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.


I always assume that anyone who says "god" and is preaching fire and brimstone means Moloch, and anyone who says "god" and is preaching prosperity gospel means Mammon. For you can tell which god a man worships not by the name he uses but the symbols he invokes when he worships and speaks of it.

Where is the god of tits and wine?


Pretty sure that's the FSM, what with the stripper factory and the beer volcano. I'm sure there's a subcult with a wine geyser or something...
2012-05-22 08:19:42 AM  
1 vote:

LesserEvil: Christianity is pretty much powerless to do anything like this idiot preacher's vision


And therefore is seeking to aggregate power so it can. Don't fool yourself: remember that these sermons were being given specifically to encourage political activism amongst the sheep. Thinking that it can't happen here is extremely shortsighted.
2012-05-22 08:11:17 AM  
1 vote:

Boatmech: fustanella
Please don't feed the Christer troll.
why?
Allen. The end.
These preachers are gay. Or at least, worthy of a brick in the ass. Time to start offing these fevered egos. I mean, metaphorically, rite???
/is it legal to call for genocide?
`
no.


Just checking...I mean, there's free speech, but DAMN you gotta think about chronic assholism...wait...calling for genocide is illegal???
2012-05-22 07:54:20 AM  
1 vote:
So, since this guy obviously trims his hair, does he have a punishment for himself as well?
2012-05-22 07:48:54 AM  
1 vote:

itsfullofstars: pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.

Why not reach out to this pastor and share your disappointment?


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2012-05-22 07:37:20 AM  
1 vote:

pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.


Why not reach out to this pastor and share your disappointment?
2012-05-22 07:34:31 AM  
1 vote:
Please don't feed the Christer troll.
2012-05-22 07:02:53 AM  
1 vote:

Boatmech: RCon: FlashHarry: extremism in ANY religion is bad.

FTFY

`
No.
`
religion (little r) can and often is a good thing. Religion(tm)/big R is repeatedly used as justification for control over others lives.
/a little insanity is nice
//extremes are not


No.

If you need to make up a non-existent distinction between capitalized and uncapitalized religion to make yourself feel better, that's on you. You're still telling yourself fairy stories just to get by. And you're confusing insanity with whimsy. There's a time and a place for whimsy, and if one is using whimsy as a foundation for personal philosophy, one is an idiot.
2012-05-22 06:31:00 AM  
1 vote:

Boatmech: `
religion (little r) can and often is a good thing.


Depends on your definition of "religion".
To me:

religion = irrational belief system that disregards fact in favor of dogma
philosophy = rational belief system that is amenable to change and new facts

My (sleep-deprived) definitions. YMMV.
2012-05-22 06:00:39 AM  
1 vote:
I keep telling myself this pathetic little man doesn't represent Christianity in general, but It'd feel a whole lot better to heard that he'd lost parishioners after his hateful tirade.
2012-05-22 05:55:10 AM  
1 vote:

bugontherug: Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though. I think he was more into dicking with your mind then actually being 'evil'.

The Bible is a litany of Yaweh's atrocities against man.

1) He had two she-bears rip 42 children to shreds because they called a priest "baldy." Nope. Not exaggerating. Look up the story of Elisha.

2) He drowned every man, woman, and child on the planet, except 7.

3) He lied to Adam and Eve, telling them they would die "in that day" they ate the fruit. They didn't. In fact, their eyes were opened, and Adam went on to live another 900 years.

4) He stopped humankind from achieving its potential by arbitrarily smashing the Tower of Babel. Not because the tower was "sinful" mind you. But just because if he didn't, humans would really be able to accomplish some sh*t. The very of idea of it just pissed him off.

5) He f*cked up Job's whole life on a bet. What if Job had LOST his faith?

6) He psyched out Abraham and his son with the whole "blood for the Blood God" bit.

7) He slaughtered babies and young children in Egypt to punish Pharoah for a choice Yaweh compelled him to make.

8) In Numbers, Israel complains that Yaweh is killing too many of them. So Yahweh kills 14,000 more of them with a plague.

9) In Numbers 31:7-18, the Israelites kill all the Midianites except for the virgins, whom they are allowed to rape as spoils of war.

10) He sacrificed himself to himself to change a rule he created, and could have changed with a wave of his hand. Then he said that anyone who dares question that moral absurdity should roast on spits forever for the personal amusement of fundamentalist Christians, laughing at them and raining down piss on them from heaven.

Yahweh is into way more than just dicking with your mind, bud. As Mark Twain said, Yahweh Elohim is a "malign thug."


truly history's greatest monster

/not sarcasm
2012-05-22 05:54:51 AM  
1 vote:
Do you think when they're eating grapes at the foot of Jesus for all eternity, the Christians ever feel a bit bad for their old friends who are getting flayed by demons for thousands of years?

Do they ever object to Jesus about this?

Or are they so amazingly selfish they just never care?
2012-05-22 05:37:38 AM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: cherrydog: untaken_name: cherrydog: yes and everything to do with the point boatmech was making

What point? It wasn't AAG who brought up the ten commandments, now was it? I'm not pro-religion, I'm anti-bad-rhetoric.

i c. and yet comparing hundreds of supersitious laws in an ancient religious text to "millions" of modern secular laws is also bad rhetoric.

In what way? You claimed no one could be expected to follow SIX HUNDRED WHOLE RULES. I pointed out that everyone in the country is expected to follow more than that right now, including you. That proves that your argument was weak. How is that bad rhetoric?


hi i noticed you edited out my "superstitious ancient religious text vs modern secular law" bit. that's bad argument

scads of different laws exist in many different domains of life of which not everybody partakes, so again, not really germane to the argument of every human being following all 666 commandments of the bible

what a strange, diversionary and seemingly xian-defensive approach you're taking here

and 600 traffic codes? either someone reeeeally loves hyperbole or citation needed
2012-05-22 05:29:35 AM  
1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: Man On Pink Corner: AverageAmericanGuy: May you find Jesus before you spend eternity in fiery torment.

I'll hold out for a God who doesn't sound like a mugger at an ATM.

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.


I know exactly what I'm doing. Your god is a bipolar, schizophrenic, petty monster. "Worship me or forever burn" isn't a very compelling enticement, in every other fiction the villain is the one who says that and the good guys destroy him. If your god can't get people to follow him without threats of violence and torment, then he's not worth following.
2012-05-22 05:22:20 AM  
1 vote:

doglover: cherrydog: "lesbians as faptertainment" jokery


I'm not sure how to respond to this phrase.

On one hand, lesbians are people too. On the other hand, it's really hot when cute girls kiss and that's not a joke.


i find it, um, intriguing as well but is this really the thread for hotness?

every single time lesbians are involved, whether it's some hitlerian genocidal idea or something else, some drooler in his basement is rubbing his hairy palms together

it's pathetic and disrespectful to lesbians as human beings.

not to mention tired internet material, which may be a worse crime for some
2012-05-22 05:14:26 AM  
1 vote:

engine: ok seriously? Does anyone believe this dude is actually representing Christ? Seriously... Or does every self proclaimed skeptic lose the ability to think critically when they find a "reality" that suits their agenda.

/pot - kettle
/encourages critical thinking


what is this "pot meet kettle" deflection?

i don't even

and wanna bet how many xians and freepers agree with this psycho?
2012-05-22 05:09:22 AM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: cherrydog: yes and everything to do with the point boatmech was making

What point? It wasn't AAG who brought up the ten commandments, now was it? I'm not pro-religion, I'm anti-bad-rhetoric.


i c. and yet comparing hundreds of supersitious laws in an ancient religious text to "millions" of modern secular laws is also bad rhetoric.
2012-05-22 05:09:22 AM  
1 vote:

engine: ok seriously? Does anyone believe this dude is actually representing Christ? Seriously... Or does every self proclaimed skeptic lose the ability to think critically when they find a "reality" that suits their agenda.

/pot - kettle
/encourages critical thinking


Well, let's see -
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We have this Dude.
We have his congregation.
And we have pretty much everyone else that agrees with him ALL promoting this crap in the name of their favorite magical sky wizard.
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So, what do you think?
2012-05-22 05:04:40 AM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: MisterLoki: You guys are the real bigots for being intolerant of his intolerance.

You bet. I'm proudly intolerant of stupidity, bigotry and general assholery.

Because f*ck them, that's why.


Favorited.
2012-05-22 05:02:30 AM  
1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: Man On Pink Corner: AverageAmericanGuy: May you find Jesus before you spend eternity in fiery torment.

I'll hold out for a God who doesn't sound like a mugger at an ATM.

Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.


so is "love me or burn forever" like or unlike a criminal making threats against you?

if anything the mugger comparison was exceedingly kind to your sadistic/megalomaniacal diety of unfathomable psychopathic proportions
2012-05-22 04:59:03 AM  
1 vote:
2017: President Palin builds the GLBT reservation to keep the gays and lesbians in.

2019: The GLBT reservation builds walls, moats with genetically altered flying crocodiles and guard towers to keep refugees from Palin's Idiocratic Amurika out.
2012-05-22 04:49:35 AM  
1 vote:

doglover: cherrydog: in all fairness the whole "ooh lesbians aren't real people, they're actually vivid pornstars here solely for my killing of kittens" has been done to death as well

Just because you're a real person doesn't mean you can't be attractive as well.


of course not. but that's not point of the "lesbians as faptertainment" jokery
2012-05-22 04:43:03 AM  
1 vote:

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: untaken_name: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Pretty late, isn't it? Did your school already let out for the summer?

Oh, don't get butthurt. I could have easily posted a similar thing if he was talking about being a guard in an all-straight-female camp. I was really going more for a deconstruction of fantasy than an indictment of any particular demographic.

Yeah, well, I wasn't accusing you of bigotry. I'm accusing you of being boorish. The HURR REAL DYKES R FUGLY thing has been done to death, don't you think? It's only kids who never get tired of the same one-dimensional jokes. Be better than that. At least, don't complain if you're called out for it.


in all fairness the whole "ooh lesbians aren't real people, they're actually vivid pornstars here solely for my killing of kittens" has been done to death as well
2012-05-22 04:37:02 AM  
1 vote:

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Boatmech: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Mock26: Dear Pastor Prick,

Guess what? If people stop conditioning children to believe in god and jesus and all that crap do you know what will happen? christianity will die out! And do you know why? Because religion is a learned behavior! Everyone on the planet is born an atheist!

I wish that were true, and I used to believe it myself. I used to believe that religion was memetic, a social equivalent of cumulative personality. (The latter is why long-term coma patients are 'different people' when they come out of it: Your personality is a cumulative effect of recent social memory, and if you go long enough without that you sort of lose it and start over again. I used to believe that religion is like that. And it kind of is, but there's more to it.) I used to believe that if you could just identify and server the transmission vectors, or sufficiently disrupt them, you could in effect kill off religion within a few generations, or at least manage to changer it into something a little less nutty and damaging. Alas, I no longer believe this.

It turns out, based on some fairly recent science of the last decade or so, that religion is apparently more or less inborn in most people, and very common, nearly ubiquitous. There's a part of the brain that has been identified with the profound experience of the divine: it does pretty much the same thing, no matter what one's faith or spiritual background. Why this is, no one really knows. Some philosophers, such as Daniel C. Dennett (see 'Breaking the Spell') speculate that it's the human equivalent of the 'intentional agent' reaction that many 'thinking animals' such as dogs have. (If your dog barks at a stick hitting the gutter -- an example from his book -- that's arguably similar to primitive humans assuming that thunder was some god expressing anger.) Dennett also points to how extremely self-deluding humans can be, using as example the rather unsettling case of cargo cults. The fact that otherwi ...

I've been going back and forth now for some time trying to decide if you're a zero or just kind of lazy, immateur, and impulsive. You've been like the little brother who sometimes says annoying things, but is generally okay and sometimes says funny or smart things. But this kind of clinches it for me. Was this really the best you could come up with? Is this really your considered responce to what's pretty clearly not a tossoff comment on my part? Really? Is this what you have to offer? Because it's pretty pathetic, don't you think?

Jesus, kid, at least pretend to make an effort. Your laziness insults both of us.

/Better luck next life.


`
Sylvia, is there anything in that WOT addressed to my comment or are you just yelling at the clouds?
2012-05-22 04:37:01 AM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: cherrydog: and are you honestly suggesting people are supposed to follow hundreds of commandments?

Do you think the police honestly expect people to follow millions of laws?


lol we have bold face "millions" of laws now that people are expected to follow? rilly?

so, apparently yes we should all be like hasidic jews and follow hundreds of commandments..except for the stonings of gheys and disobedient children and the shrimp and the mixed fibers and all the rest xians find inconvenient and distasteful to follow

but go ahead, move the goalposts
2012-05-22 04:35:40 AM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Pretty late, isn't it? Did your school already let out for the summer?

Oh, don't get butthurt. I could have easily posted a similar thing if he was talking about being a guard in an all-straight-female camp. I was really going more for a deconstruction of fantasy than an indictment of any particular demographic.


Yeah, well, I wasn't accusing you of bigotry. I'm accusing you of being boorish. The HURR REAL DYKES R FUGLY thing has been done to death, don't you think? It's only kids who never get tired of the same one-dimensional jokes. Be better than that. At least, don't complain if you're called out for it.
2012-05-22 04:20:45 AM  
1 vote:

Boatmech: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Mock26: Dear Pastor Prick,

Guess what? If people stop conditioning children to believe in god and jesus and all that crap do you know what will happen? christianity will die out! And do you know why? Because religion is a learned behavior! Everyone on the planet is born an atheist!

I wish that were true, and I used to believe it myself. I used to believe that religion was memetic, a social equivalent of cumulative personality. (The latter is why long-term coma patients are 'different people' when they come out of it: Your personality is a cumulative effect of recent social memory, and if you go long enough without that you sort of lose it and start over again. I used to believe that religion is like that. And it kind of is, but there's more to it.) I used to believe that if you could just identify and server the transmission vectors, or sufficiently disrupt them, you could in effect kill off religion within a few generations, or at least manage to changer it into something a little less nutty and damaging. Alas, I no longer believe this.

It turns out, based on some fairly recent science of the last decade or so, that religion is apparently more or less inborn in most people, and very common, nearly ubiquitous. There's a part of the brain that has been identified with the profound experience of the divine: it does pretty much the same thing, no matter what one's faith or spiritual background. Why this is, no one really knows. Some philosophers, such as Daniel C. Dennett (see 'Breaking the Spell') speculate that it's the human equivalent of the 'intentional agent' reaction that many 'thinking animals' such as dogs have. (If your dog barks at a stick hitting the gutter -- an example from his book -- that's arguably similar to primitive humans assuming that thunder was some god expressing anger.) Dennett also points to how extremely self-deluding humans can be, using as example the rather unsettling case of cargo cults. The fact that otherwi ...


I've been going back and forth now for some time trying to decide if you're a zero or just kind of lazy, immateur, and impulsive. You've been like the little brother who sometimes says annoying things, but is generally okay and sometimes says funny or smart things. But this kind of clinches it for me. Was this really the best you could come up with? Is this really your considered responce to what's pretty clearly not a tossoff comment on my part? Really? Is this what you have to offer? Because it's pretty pathetic, don't you think?

Jesus, kid, at least pretend to make an effort. Your laziness insults both of us.

/Better luck next life.
2012-05-22 04:12:38 AM  
1 vote:

AverageAmericanGuy: LittleSmitty: If GOD hates gay people so much, how come "DON'T BE GAY" isn't one of the TEN COMMANDMENTS?

Seems to me it would be if God hates teh ghey so much.

Why would you artificially limit God to ten commandments? There are over 600 commandments, not including those in the Talmud.

The road to Hell is paved with "seems t me".


seems to me xians talk in weirdly casual ways about an eternal dimension of torture that a supposedly infinitely loving god sends "his" beloved but doubting children to.

like, "oh you're going to hell, whatever."

and are you honestly suggesting people are supposed to follow hundreds of commandments? including the stonings of non-virgins, shrimp eating and whatnot? I thought the new xian argument was that only the anti-ghey guy leviticus passage was relevant from the "old law" and nothing else. or do you follow all 600+ commandments. get your story straight.

aslo your handle is cute, under the circumstances.

"poe's law" in play?
2012-05-22 04:06:05 AM  
1 vote:

Boatmech: atheist calls for Religious Extremests to
be imprisoned in an electrified pen until
they die.


No. I'm better than them, I'm a gay atheist and I'm still better than them.
2012-05-22 03:58:51 AM  
1 vote:

cmb53208: I really do think that some of these nutball Baptist and Pentecostal preachers do pose a threat. Could their follwers carry out a terrorist attack? Of course they could, people that blinded by hatred and ignorance are capable of anything.

Southern cities I think are the ones most in danger from these assholes: do you think they like the fact that Atlanta and New Orleans have large gay communities? Or that there's a bunch of pointy headed smarty pants people in Nashville and Chapel Hill?


Like a lot of people, you instinctively blame the one asshole up front, instead the horde of idiots bankrolling him. Look at that place in that video: Who paid for all that? Idiots who listen to this guy, that's who. You seem to think that if he was struck dead, or never showed up, they'd just mill around and mope. Nonsense. They'd just pick some other asshole to tell them what they want to hear. They're not "following" him: he's one of them. He dies, another takes over. They're part and parcel of the same societal illness, commonplace bigotry.

Our problem isn't that we have an abundance of assholes. It's that we have an abundance of people who pay them any mind.

In fact, I'm going to Godwin this right here: Schickelgruber was a homeless bum selling postcards when he started. The only thing that made the difference for him was a large number of other homeless bums who thought he was swell. (Really. Look it up.) The rest was just a gullible populace. All it would have taken to stop him was telling him to shut up and go back to painting his crappy postcards. No one ever had to do a damn thing he said, or listen to him at all. It's only because they did that the shiat came down. But if he'd never come along, someone else would have. We make a dangerous mistake in assuming that one man has more power than other men are willing to give him.

Beck, Rush, Coulter, and all the rest, they're not the problem. Who's buying all those books? If they couldn't buy Beck's, they'd just buy someone else's. If they couldn't tune into Rush, they'd tune into someone else equally odious. It's not the few idiots up front we need to worry about: it's all many other ones out there.

We're never going to run out of assholes. But there aren't enough of them to pose a real threat, on their own. It's the hordes of morans who listen that are the problem.
2012-05-22 03:41:29 AM  
1 vote:

WorldCitizen: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Gwendolyn: He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

Gay /=sterile, numbnuts.

I think it's pretty clear that he means that women can't naturally reproduce with women, and men with men, that's all. He's dumb in other ways, but I think he's got basic reproduction down, and I think he understand that queers have normally functioning reproductive systems, too. He just understands that a coop fulla hens ain't makin' no more wit'out a rooster, if'n ya know what I mean.

But he doesn't seem to understand that straight men and women make the gay babies? So that crop might die out, but more would just be born? Or would the infants instantly go to the concentration camp if they showed any signs of the gay? Perhaps some genetic tests right off to determine if they get sent away?


I think you and firefly212 both misunderstand both the pastor and Gwendolyn's post that I commented on. The pastor seems to believe that gayness is memetic, and yes, he really does seem to believe that if you can just quarantine gays for long enough, they'll die out, for being unable to transmit gays ideas to other people. And Gwendolyn seems, like a number of other early commenters, to think that he planned to pen them up together, when he in fact made it clear he intended to segregate them by gender; that confusion led Gwendolyn to conclude that he thought gays are sterile. That's all.
2012-05-22 03:39:44 AM  
1 vote:
I'll bet he's gay.
2012-05-22 02:53:38 AM  
1 vote:

Keizer_Ghidorah: tinfoil-hat maggie: Keizer_Ghidorah: "Christian" is right. Vile, filthy, evil little worm. Him and everyone like him.

Your god tells you to love and tolerate and care for others, and you vermin twist it into a battle cry of hatred, fear, bigotry, and death. You snip out what you want to follow from his supposed book that tells you in no uncertain terms to love your neighbor as yourself and to judge not lest you be judged, and ignore everything that doesn't fit your little filth fantasy. You obsess with the idea of buttsex far more than even the most nympho bottom twink could ever do, and why? Because the idea of two people who love each other and happen to have the same gonads just drives you absolutely farking insane.

You're backwards savages, desperately clinging to fading customs and irrelevant traditions. You know your time is near, and you're going to cause as much damage as possible before you're gone. The world will be much better off with your kind gone. Maybe we'll finally be able to achieve what the Constitution of this country has told us for more than two centuries, that all are created equal.

Begone, demons masquerading as men.

I'm wondering what denomination you were raised? Granted there all pretty silly although some are way to deadly serious.

Episcopalian, then Lutheran, then Orthodox. Had no choice in the matter, didn't like any of it. From a young age I could see the contradictions and silliness of the Bible, and I wanted no part of it. Every day I see more and more of shiat like this, supposedly "Christian" people who preach hate and filth while other Christians do nothing to stop them. If they don't want to be lumped in with the supposed fringe lunatics, then maybe they should start being more active in shutting them up.

Evil wins when good men do nothing.


Very true.
/Oh and sorry about the crazies in your upbringing.
2012-05-22 02:45:07 AM  
1 vote:

tinfoil-hat maggie: Keizer_Ghidorah: "Christian" is right. Vile, filthy, evil little worm. Him and everyone like him.

Your god tells you to love and tolerate and care for others, and you vermin twist it into a battle cry of hatred, fear, bigotry, and death. You snip out what you want to follow from his supposed book that tells you in no uncertain terms to love your neighbor as yourself and to judge not lest you be judged, and ignore everything that doesn't fit your little filth fantasy. You obsess with the idea of buttsex far more than even the most nympho bottom twink could ever do, and why? Because the idea of two people who love each other and happen to have the same gonads just drives you absolutely farking insane.

You're backwards savages, desperately clinging to fading customs and irrelevant traditions. You know your time is near, and you're going to cause as much damage as possible before you're gone. The world will be much better off with your kind gone. Maybe we'll finally be able to achieve what the Constitution of this country has told us for more than two centuries, that all are created equal.

Begone, demons masquerading as men.

I'm wondering what denomination you were raised? Granted there all pretty silly although some are way to deadly serious.


Episcopalian, then Lutheran, then Orthodox. Had no choice in the matter, didn't like any of it. From a young age I could see the contradictions and silliness of the Bible, and I wanted no part of it. Every day I see more and more of shiat like this, supposedly "Christian" people who preach hate and filth while other Christians do nothing to stop them. If they don't want to be lumped in with the supposed fringe lunatics, then maybe they should start being more active in shutting them up.

Evil wins when good men do nothing.
2012-05-22 02:13:46 AM  
1 vote:

Bathia_Mapes: Leviticus 19:18

King James Version (KJV)

18 Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.


Nice old testament smack down.
/let's repeat it
2012-05-22 01:44:32 AM  
1 vote:

untaken_name: What you're thinking of:


If they somehow had a device that let them sort people due to orientation, you'd see more of the first then the second, as long as you focused on the younger age groups. Here's a hint, the first picture you posted becomes the second in about twelve years.
2012-05-22 01:34:15 AM  
1 vote:

zarberg: His e-mail address and mailing address are easily available online. I sent him an e-mail asking him where in the Bible does Jesus say anything explicitly about homosexuality, and to tell him that I'm praying for him to find peace.

I'm guessing that's just gonna piss him off even more.


I did something similar. Waiting for the response.
2012-05-22 01:30:18 AM  
1 vote:
His e-mail address and mailing address are easily available online. I sent him an e-mail asking him where in the Bible does Jesus say anything explicitly about homosexuality, and to tell him that I'm praying for him to find peace.

I'm guessing that's just gonna piss him off even more.
2012-05-22 01:24:15 AM  
1 vote:

RatMotor: 100% agree. Question is - is it a battle we can win? Maybe all the optimism has been beaten out of me, but it sure does some like a lot of people are actively trying to back-pedal to the dark ages.


True, but I think they're a very vocal minority. Just look at how far we've come in only a few human generations. My great grandmother wasn't even a citizen under the law for most of her life. For every person actively trying to reverse our progress there are at least three times as many moving it forward.
2012-05-22 01:21:22 AM  
1 vote:
If gay marriage is a slippery slope to bestiality then so is regular marrige. fark you.
2012-05-22 01:19:32 AM  
1 vote:

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: cmunic8r99: Shiat like this makes me weep for my country.

I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Seriously. We've always had losers like this, and always will, but those on the losing side of history always scream the most in their last hours. So all this is (assuming it's not merely grandstanding for dollars, which I still think is likely) is one of countless symptoms of the kind of change he's railing against. He can't stand the fact that we won, and he's got to live to see it. But his views are not typical; they're in a rapidly shrinking minority. It'll never disappear completely, but it won't be much longer before we don't see much of this anymore.


I feel essentially the same way. Fifty years ago this sort of rant wouldn't have happened simply because gay rights wasn't even on the radar. People like this know where we're headed as a society (ie - further acceptance of LGBT lifestyles) and it scares them to death.
2012-05-22 01:15:10 AM  
1 vote:

cmunic8r99: Shiat like this makes me weep for my country.


I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Seriously. We've always had losers like this, and always will, but those on the losing side of history always scream the most in their last hours. So all this is (assuming it's not merely grandstanding for dollars, which I still think is likely) is one of countless symptoms of the kind of change he's railing against. He can't stand the fact that we won, and he's got to live to see it. But his views are not typical; they're in a rapidly shrinking minority. It'll never disappear completely, but it won't be much longer before we don't see much of this anymore.
2012-05-22 01:12:00 AM  
1 vote:
I really do think that some of these nutball Baptist and Pentecostal preachers do pose a threat. Could their follwers carry out a terrorist attack? Of course they could, people that blinded by hatred and ignorance are capable of anything.

Southern cities I think are the ones most in danger from these assholes: do you think they like the fact that Atlanta and New Orleans have large gay communities? Or that there's a bunch of pointy headed smarty pants people in Nashville and Chapel Hill?
2012-05-22 01:11:11 AM  
1 vote:
This pastor's gay and clearly into extreme kink. Perhaps his male assistant can send this lost lamb home to his shepherd.
2012-05-22 01:09:33 AM  
1 vote:

LesserEvil: You think Dr. Tiller's death was the result of a preacher speaking, not of an individual asshole who was already of a vengeful, homicidal mind?


If it's not possible to incite violence, then let's get rid of the laws against doing so.
2012-05-22 01:08:42 AM  
1 vote:

Murphyr: "Bait-y"? If someone posted this psychotic "let's just make some concentration camps" nonsense with an account named "Ron Baity", it would be the worst attempt at trolling in history.


That was my first thought. Particularly because "baiting" is frequently used in connection with trolling gay sex chat rooms for conservative married men and posting the resulting logs on 4Chan.
2012-05-22 01:01:25 AM  
1 vote:

PonceAlyosha: RatMotor: cmunic8r99: Shiat like this makes me weep for my countryspecies.

Seriously. I don't believe in any of that Mayan 2012 crap, but shiat like this makes me think humanity has already peaked and we're now just circling the bowl waiting to be flushed. Time to let some other species have a go.

Why? Because we can finally recognize when we (as a species) are doing wrong? fark that. That's a reason to continue existing, not a reason to stop.


B/C I don't think as a species we do recognize the wrong-doing. Sure, some of us do, but people with views like this pastors' aren't isolated loonies spewing their crazy nonsense from street corners - they're the heads of church groups with whole congregations cheering them on, they're our congressmen and representatives, they're the voting public who have consistently vote down marriage equality laws. And not to limit it to the U.S., you can play mad-libs and replace "gays" with any of a hundred groups some other group would happily see tortured and extinguished just because of their chosen god/place of birth/skin tone.
2012-05-22 12:49:36 AM  
1 vote:

Shadowtag: Not so. Of all the conversations of this type going on on an almost daily basis, why do you think hearing about the extremely psychotic diatribes of the truly deranged makes news? Because among Christians, blind idiot rage like this is still, thankfully, still rare.


It's really, frankly not.
2012-05-22 12:46:36 AM  
1 vote:

zepher: Substitute gay/lesbian/homosexual in his rant with whitey, blue eyed devil, cracker, and you have an average sermon in every Black Liberation Theology church in America.


... Which will be relevant when BLT becomes the most popular religion in the US, pervades every level of government and begins dictating both national opinion and federal law.

So, approximately never. Thanks for playing, though.
2012-05-22 12:44:04 AM  
1 vote:
Gay men and lesbians would simply hate fark our way out of the encampment. Not sure how many newborns would have to be raised to adulthood and how many would have to be tossed against the fence to short out the electricity, but the lesbians would figure it out and win that argument anyway so it doesn't really concern me.
2012-05-22 12:39:27 AM  
1 vote:
Thank you subby for using quotations around the word Christian

That was just right
2012-05-22 12:37:10 AM  
1 vote:
I don't judge people by their actions or words alone, but more by what I perceive as their motives for them. When I look at the veritable palace this man has erected about himself, I think his motives are pretty clear. When a man like this says something outrageous, he's thinking about the cost of ferns, red velvet, and hotel-quality custodial services. And when people react to that, they're doing their part to address his concerns about all that.

So don't. Don't react. The man is unworthy of our consideration.
2012-05-22 12:34:26 AM  
1 vote:

0Icky0: "Build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long -- put all the lesbians in there,"

But unlike fundie preachers, the lesbians understand that you can just walk around a fence like that.


Or knock it down. Do you know how structurally unsound a fence that long with no extra supports would be?
2012-05-22 12:32:59 AM  
1 vote:
"Build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long -- put all the lesbians in there,"

But unlike fundie preachers, the lesbians understand that you can just walk around a fence like that.
2012-05-22 12:23:19 AM  
1 vote:
We know that human leaders can rile up followers to commit horrendous acts. See for example; the Holocaust, the Rwandan genocide. On a smaller scale: mob violence.

History has a tendency to repeat itself. The human species isn't so disparate that tremendous evil, born of mass brain-washing and hatred, can only be committed by Germans and Hutus (and Tutsis).
2012-05-21 11:56:41 PM  
1 vote:

pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.


With all due respect, Pastor Steve, if you disagree with his message it is YOU who are out of the mainstream of Christian teaching these days. Not him. Pastors who believe and act and teach as he does represent and lead Christian teaching in America today, and it is a teaching of intolerance, hate and bigotry. You may teach a different message (and I hope you do), but you are swimming against a mighty tide of people like him. Good luck...we're counting on you.
2012-05-21 11:54:01 PM  
1 vote:

TheBigJerk: Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though.

only with Abraham. before that he accepted blood sacrifices. and even after that he accepted animal blood sacrifices. Christ was "created" to end all that barbaric blood sacrifice stuff. The "church" was losing popularity and they had to make changes to keep up with societal changes. Much like the prosperity gospel where greed is good.

You know, I have heard this before, but with subsequent generations white-washing the shiat out of their own history I've never seen evidence. Do you know of any texts or artifacts, apocryphal or otherwise, giving more weight to it?

I mean it's hard for me to believe a primitive sand religion dating back that far DIDN'T, but human sacrifice is one of those things people like to NOT talk about.


Yahweh has always been a blood for the blood god sort of guy, but it was always the blood of anyone but the righteous. A neighboring tribe was never "righteous," nor was a neighbor who murdered a righteous member of the clan, though at least the neighboring tribe could eventually be made righteous by slaughtering their men and enslaving their women and children for a few generations. There is absolutely no evidence that Yahweh ever asked for the blood of the righteous, and anytime someone took an action in that direction that could be claimed to have come from God, it was stated (retconned?) as coming from man's sin; some Jewish scholars believe that the binding of Isaac was actually Abraham's misunderstanding or a false vision.

On the flip side, when times are really tough, people kill their kids. It happened in 2000 BC and it happens today. Although no reliable records of the period survive, things couldn't have been that much different and maybe it was a sensationalized story of even a great prophet falling victim to famine, which would have been understood at the time but is kind of lost now that our culture never goes hungry.

Me? I think Abraham was just a madman, like Joseph Smith.
2012-05-21 11:50:40 PM  
1 vote:

Vodka Zombie: HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.

I think that you could make a pretty strong case that this guy really does not follow the same book that posits the positive connotation of the Golden Rule as one of its basic tenants.

Well, then it's a question of interpretation. But, he's still a Christian.


And he's really helping the brand out, let me tell you.

/Christianity isn't a religion, it's a logo.
//Jesus isn't a person, he's the logos.
2012-05-21 11:46:30 PM  
1 vote:

HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.

I think that you could make a pretty strong case that this guy really does not follow the same book that posits the positive connotation of the Golden Rule as one of its basic tenants.


Well, then it's a question of interpretation. But, he's still a Christian.
2012-05-21 11:46:01 PM  
1 vote:

The Why Not Guy: Start voting for people who don't hate homosexuals. Start telling candidates that their anti-gay stance is unacceptable. That's the only way true change will come about.


well the old people are dying and the young people are pretty much done with this bullshiat. pretty much.
2012-05-21 11:36:37 PM  
1 vote:
So I suppose that once the gays are gone there will be no more gays because everyone knows that straight people only make straight children.
2012-05-21 11:32:03 PM  
1 vote:

Duke_leto_Atredes: [www.alteredearth.com image 406x604]
Here we go


If this goes on
2012-05-21 11:31:47 PM  
1 vote:

Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though.

only with Abraham. before that he accepted blood sacrifices. and even after that he accepted animal blood sacrifices. Christ was "created" to end all that barbaric blood sacrifice stuff. The "church" was losing popularity and they had to make changes to keep up with societal changes. Much like the prosperity gospel where greed is good.


You know, I have heard this before, but with subsequent generations white-washing the shiat out of their own history I've never seen evidence. Do you know of any texts or artifacts, apocryphal or otherwise, giving more weight to it?

I mean it's hard for me to believe a primitive sand religion dating back that far DIDN'T, but human sacrifice is one of those things people like to NOT talk about.
2012-05-21 11:29:41 PM  
1 vote:

Gyrfalcon: MisterLoki: You guys are the real bigots for being intolerant of his intolerance.

You bet. I'm proudly intolerant of stupidity, bigotry and general assholery.

Because f*ck them, that's why.


Amen, sister ; )
2012-05-21 11:28:57 PM  
1 vote:

theknuckler_33: Seriously.


Yeah. I read somewhere that Cain and Able each had a twin sister that was their wife and bore children, who I guess eventually farked each other. Pretty gross. No wonder the churches play that shiat down.
2012-05-21 11:27:09 PM  
1 vote:
Thank you Christians for giving humanity another example of the hazards of living a worthless, god-clotted life. I think this cat might go to the top of my list when I am explaining to some family and friends why I will never join their silly cults, and why America is better off remaining a secular nation.

LeglessDog: Kudos to SUBBY for the quotation marks around Christian . . .


But, the guy IS a Christian. Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.
2012-05-21 11:27:04 PM  
1 vote:

PonceAlyosha: Actually, you're out of the mainstream because you're a decent person who doesn't use your religion as a tool for political power.


Actually, I would argue that he is in the mainstream. You just never hear about folks like him. You do hear about these bigots, however. Sadly, it is just about every day.
2012-05-21 11:26:45 PM  
1 vote:

God-is-a-Taco: Worley added, "It makes me pukin' sick to think about -- I don't even whether or not to say this in the pulpit -- can you imagine kissing some man?"

They cut off the rest of his speech:

"And touching his penis. Can you imagine putting his penis in your mouth? It's disgusting. Oh, and then his large member would go inside of my the anus. Finally he would spread his homosexual seed on my face. It's wrong. Large gay penises."


These guys really do get excited about homosexuality.


A winrar is you.

These mofos just need to come out of the closet and be happy with who they are.
2012-05-21 11:26:30 PM  
1 vote:
LeroyBourne
He asks his congregation if they could imagine kissing a man, then he just stands there and stares into the abyss. I knew exactly what was going in his mind.

Hey Pastor, most of the women in the congregation can imagine kissing a man, and probably do on a regular basis.
2012-05-21 11:25:08 PM  
1 vote:

Duke_leto_Atredes: [www.alteredearth.com image 406x604]
Here we go


It IS 2012 after all...

lh6.googleusercontent.com
2012-05-21 11:16:33 PM  
1 vote:
Yes, Mr. Pastor, everyone who you find sexually unattractive should die. Just don't look in a mirror...
2012-05-21 11:16:15 PM  
1 vote:
I like this guy's logic. If we build a pen and put all the homophobic preachers in there, they'll die off as well. They are so afraid of reproducing after all.
2012-05-21 11:13:44 PM  
1 vote:
Let's use fables to illustrate the flawed construct of the human archetype and make others feel bad about their suckiness!
2012-05-21 11:09:12 PM  
1 vote:

Wayne 985: jaylectricity: dameron: He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

So, it's genetic then?

Because People in power are Stupid: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

Okay so he basically admits that it's genetic and not a choice (at least for men). That's a gayby step forward.

I think he's assuming that the gay men won't want anything to do with the lesbians, so there will be no reproducing.

But what if the gay men and the lesbians DO reproduce? They could selectively breed an army of super-homosexuals that would overrun the facility. No salon, gym, or softball field will be safe.


An army of Uber Carpet-Menschen?
2012-05-21 11:08:58 PM  
1 vote:

LesserEvil: Benevolent Misanthrope: LesserEvil: Just curious, those Farkers here who believe this guy is worse than Osama Bin-Laden: Do you think his audience are sheep, and believe everything he says? Does this preacher have the power to sway his "mob" to think the same way he does, to hate gays enough to pen them up? To blame them for whatever of the country's ills, this idiot preacher claims?

Does this guy have that much influence on his followers? Are the sort of "Christians" who attend his sermons all like that, because, after all, they go to his services and donate money to his church?

Honest question.

Having grown up in a similar church, I'll take a stab at this one:

I think it's more a case of him preaching what he knows will put money in the plate. He may have convinced himself that he's preaching the word of his god, but he also knows what his audience wants and what they expect from him. The congregants, in turn, believe him, because he's saying what they already "know" and "speaking truth". There is also the sense of being a persecuted minority, and the subsequent radicalization of thought that often happens when a group feels they must band together for security and survival - in this case, survival of their belief system in the face of a world and a Christianity that is rapidly changing. It's a vicious cycle.

If you've never seen the film "Marjoe", you should. And not just the parts about him - look at the other preachers and how they operate.

Fair answer, the preacher knows his audience and speaks to them in a like-minded fashion. A religious pundit (who may or may not even believe the crap they spew, but you have to make bank, right?)

Again it comes back to the idea that we shouldn't care what this idiot says. It doesn't change anything as long as it is contained in his church. If he's shouting this in public, on the other hand, feel free to roast him - but otherwise, this just gives him additional publicity he otherwise wouldn't have.

Punditry is a scam. Limbaugh, Beck, Olbermann, Matthews... they get ratings, almost as much from their haters as their fans, and they all could really care less about what happens in politics, as long as it provides fuel for their shows. This preacher is no different. Publicity actually HELPS business, whether it's negative or positive.


Actually, it means we should be more scared, because farkwits like this aee the figureheads for a large number of people who already believe the bigoted crap they are spouting. It's not just this guy, it's all the people cheering his hate filled rhetoric in the audience.
2012-05-21 11:04:27 PM  
1 vote:
I love how he says "God Have Mercy!" after his diatribe.
It's simple but it amuses me.
2012-05-21 11:04:27 PM  
1 vote:
Christianity, the so-called "religion of peace", is at it again.
2012-05-21 11:04:03 PM  
1 vote:

theknuckler_33: They can't reproduce? Then where did they all come from?!?!


I'm guessing you're not serious, but here's a good retort to this question.

Where do worker honeybees come from? They're sterile. Why don't the drones and queens only produce drones and queens?
2012-05-21 11:01:59 PM  
1 vote:

MisterLoki: You guys are the real bigots for being intolerant of his intolerance.


You bet. I'm proudly intolerant of stupidity, bigotry and general assholery.

Because f*ck them, that's why.
2012-05-21 11:01:58 PM  
1 vote:
Coventry was FICTIONAL, moran.
2012-05-21 11:01:19 PM  
1 vote:
FTA:can you imagine kissing some man?

well can you?! I really want some good imagery for the spank bank, so if we could get some storytellin' goin' here, that'd be great!
2012-05-21 10:57:37 PM  
1 vote:

LesserEvil: 12349876: LesserEvil: Just curious, those Farkers here who believe this guy is worse than Osama Bin-Laden: Do you think his audience are sheep, and believe everything he says? Does this preacher have the power to sway his "mob" to think the same way he does, to hate gays enough to pen them up? To blame them for whatever of the country's ills, this idiot preacher claims?

The Republicans certainly think Jeremiah Wright has that power.

So I take it you believe this nutcase is completely powerless, and it would be better to ignore him, right?


I hate to Godwin, but this post is making me think of that. That's the sort of thing that happens when you don't speak out against evil.
2012-05-21 10:56:52 PM  
1 vote:
Dear Fundies:
This is for you.

/if this GIF from Community, doesn't give them heart attacks, I don't know what will...
//couldn't get it to post to Fark...
2012-05-21 10:56:02 PM  
1 vote:

SilentStrider: [pics.livejournal.com image 640x610]

This seems appropriate.


In reality, "Traditional" is code for "whatever things I believed about the world growing up," and now that whole generations have been told repeatedly that the nuclear Cleaver family was the perfect lifestyle aspiration free of any sin or corruption, of course it's impossible to get anyone who didn't live then to realize that it's just a TV fantasy, no more reflective of most peoples' lives than I Dream of Genie.
2012-05-21 10:53:44 PM  
1 vote:

North_Central_Positronics: Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire.


gays or christians?
2012-05-21 10:51:30 PM  
1 vote:
I think it's funny how, every once in a while, an idiot comes along who says crap that's SO insane that not even randomjsa, tenpoundsofcheese or myrandomname will attempt to defend it.
2012-05-21 10:48:19 PM  
1 vote:
Oh yeah, where did the first grandchild come from?
2012-05-21 10:48:02 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: extremism in ANY religion is bad.


fanatacism or extremism in ANY venue is unacceptable. religion, career, sports, sexuality, you name it. Balance is of vital importance.

Breaker Moran: Whenever I hear this kind of claptrap I tend to think "Gee, sorry Jimbo didn't let you suck his dick all those decades ago."

And then I think, man, mortality is a blessing.


Your observation is genius. it really is the cleansing gift none escape. not all funerals are mourned. people will party in the streets when that west baptist prick dies, for example.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I always hear blanket statements from Christians regarding the Muslim faith all being terrorists because they don't do enough to denounce the crazies among them. Well, Christians, here's an example of a crazy among you who is just as vile as those that committed the attacks of 9-11. He condones mass murder; he is calling for it. The only difference is that those guys actually had the balls to go through with their horrible plans, while this guy is most likely just a cowardly raging pussy that can't handle someone being a little different than him. I'm willing to bet that, with the exception of a few individuals here, this man's sickening and violent rhetoric will not be denounced to any major extent. This is why I despise Christianity. It isn't that one crazy says something like this; it's that the powers that be within your organization will turn a blind eye to it while condemning others for doing the same thing.


you're painting with an economy sized paintbrush. there are what, ten of thousands of houses of worship just in america. there are multiple off-shoots of faiths. there are all sorts of walls and divisions between them. then there is location. a synagogue attending jew in brooklyn ny may not know what is taking place with pentecostals in jupiter FLA just as a devout roman catholic family in oregon may not hear about this news report at all.

i would expect some outrage from local people where the media coverage is highest. but to call out catholics as a whole for every one persons misdeeds, that's not very logical is it. that application doesn't carry over to politicians or military or police or any or group unless you in your ignorance want it to.
2012-05-21 10:47:06 PM  
1 vote:

rynthetyn: Can we just stop giving nutty Southern Baptists press? Giving them press treats their opinions as if they're a relevant addition to the public discourse.


I'd much rather people like this and the Westboro Baptists become the public face of religion in America personally.

Then maybe in a few generations mankind can finally throw off the shackles of religion once and for all and the abrahamic god can join the thousands of other omnipotent, omniscient gods in the graveyard of human history.
2012-05-21 10:47:02 PM  
1 vote:
Christian Pastors like these are the American Taliban. Throw out goverment and have a Christian Theocracy.
2012-05-21 10:46:30 PM  
1 vote:
Dear Pastor Prick,

Guess what? If people stop conditioning children to believe in god and jesus and all that crap do you know what will happen? christianity will die out! And do you know why? Because religion is a learned behavior! Everyone on the planet is born an atheist!
2012-05-21 10:46:05 PM  
1 vote:

cmunic8r99: Shiat like this makes me weep for my country.


Seriously. With all the stuff you do I often pause and think/ask "Hey United States, are you like, mental or what? - Signed, Canada."
2012-05-21 10:40:14 PM  
1 vote:

namatad: rynthetyn: Can we just stop giving nutty Southern Baptists press? Giving them press treats their opinions as if they're a relevant addition to the public discourse.

It is opposition research. We have to have some clue what the enemy is up to.


I think at this point, we're well aware of what they're up to. Beyond that, we're just legitimizing them. There comes a time where you need to just marginalize certain groups just like all of the racist hate groups have been marginalized and get ignored. As long as we keep reporting everything that each nutty preacher says, they're going to continue to be treated as if their opinion matters.
2012-05-21 10:37:58 PM  
1 vote:

buckler: Hoban Washburne: As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.

No shiat. If you're planning a vacation to Disney World, be sure to do it during "gay days". All the fundies boycott during that time, and everyone else who goes is extraordinarily polite, and a hell of a lot of fun.


Reminds me of when I lived in Indianapolis and went to Mid-west Bear fest.

Its held at a hotel with a few thousand big, burly gay men in attendance and only one bar in the whole joint. Which of course is busy non-stop. I remember asking one of the ladies if this was the busiest they ever got and she said that the only time that was comparable was the Indy 500 or the Brickyard, but that drunk gay men were a helluva lot politer and retardedly extravagant tippers.

Felt sorry at first for one of the bartenders who was straight, and an absurdly hot looking lumberjack fellow who was CONSTANTLY being hit on, and said so to him. He just looked at me incredulously and was like "please, in another hour or so when these guys start really getting drunk, I take my shirt off and before the nights over will have enough money for 6 months mortgage payments!"
2012-05-21 10:37:54 PM  
1 vote:

FlashHarry: ANY religion is bad.


FTFY
2012-05-21 10:35:41 PM  
1 vote:
Worley added, "It makes me pukin' sick to think about -- I don't even whether or not to say this in the pulpit -- can you imagine kissing some man?"

They cut off the rest of his speech:

"And touching his penis. Can you imagine putting his penis in your mouth? It's disgusting. Oh, and then his large member would go inside of my the anus. Finally he would spread his homosexual seed on my face. It's wrong. Large gay penises."


These guys really do get excited about homosexuality.
2012-05-21 10:35:07 PM  
1 vote:
Hell awaits, sodomite!

See Ezekiel 16:49 for an explanation of why I am saying this to this shiathead tool of Satan, the accuser.
2012-05-21 10:35:07 PM  
1 vote:
This guy better not biatch about "religious persecution". The only thing worse than an evil person is an evil hypocrite.
2012-05-21 10:33:45 PM  
1 vote:
Can we just stop giving nutty Southern Baptists press? Giving them press treats their opinions as if they're a relevant addition to the public discourse.
2012-05-21 10:28:59 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.


I read that as "Molag Bal" and it still made perfect sense.

Hey, fundies? That's not a good sign.
2012-05-21 10:28:58 PM  
1 vote:

Crewmannumber6: FlashHarry: extremism in ANY religion is bad.


Personally, I think all extremists should be lined up and shot.

/but that's just me.


Does that statement make you an extremist?
2012-05-21 10:28:09 PM  
1 vote:

evil saltine: Benevolent Misanthrope: it's a rare Christian indeed, in my experience, who is completely okay with my not following their lifestyle choices.

"lifestyle choices"?


Well, that's what the more enlightened Christians call my being gay...
2012-05-21 10:27:12 PM  
1 vote:

Hoban Washburne: As long as we're building fences to separate people, can I be on the queer side? I'm straight, but anything that keeps religious nutbags away from me is fine in my book.


bwahahahahahahahah
nice one
seriously, we could just move all the nutbags to texas and build a fence
2012-05-21 10:26:22 PM  
1 vote:
/rant on

So freaking violent! I blame the MPAA. You can't show nekkid boobies or any sexual contact without an R rating, but you can scream hate and perpetrate violence till the cows come home and still get a PG. Methinks this is part of the reason some people are all squeamish about sex (gasp!) in all its iterations and permutations and yet have no problem whippin out a weapon to destroy something they perceive as a threat to their beliefs of how the world SHOULD be. Yay for prudish intolerance!

/rant off
2012-05-21 10:26:11 PM  
1 vote:
oh sure, it starts with penning them up in an electric fence... But then Trader Joes moves in, a series of botiques and designer shops are set up within, until you can't go more than a block without stumbling into a cupcake store or a starbucks. Finally property values rise so much that renting there takes most of your paycheck.

Actually, that sounds pretty nice, can I go too?
2012-05-21 10:25:40 PM  
1 vote:
i.imgur.com

Overcompensating much there, buddy?
2012-05-21 10:20:36 PM  
1 vote:
You know what else the Bible says is an abomination?

dl.dropbox.com

dl.dropbox.com
2012-05-21 10:13:15 PM  
1 vote:
And that would actually be The Devil talking, claiming to be a Preacher.

/btw, I can tell from his wide stance,,,
2012-05-21 10:13:08 PM  
1 vote:

RexTalionis: You know who else wanted to put gay people in camps until they die?


cdn101.iofferphoto.com

This was for a Jehovah's Witness, but it was the best I could find.

/intolerance, how does it work?
2012-05-21 10:10:18 PM  
1 vote:
then the people that chose to be heterosexual *rolls eyes* will just have gay babies and it will start all over.

you can't explain that.

/what an asshole.
2012-05-21 10:07:22 PM  
1 vote:
How long until he gets busted soliciting in a gay bar?
2012-05-21 10:04:06 PM  
1 vote:
Do you have to think about gay sex constantly to be a christian nowadays?
2012-05-21 09:29:53 PM  
1 vote:

jaylectricity: I think he's assuming that the gay men won't want anything to do with the lesbians, so there will be no reproducing.


Don't let us down rule #34.
2012-05-21 09:17:51 PM  
1 vote:

dameron: He continues: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

So, it's genetic then?


Because People in power are Stupid: "Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can't get out...and you know what, in a few years, they'll die out...do you know why? They can't reproduce!"

Okay so he basically admits that it's genetic and not a choice (at least for men). That's a gayby step forward.


I think he's assuming that the gay men won't want anything to do with the lesbians, so there will be no reproducing.
2012-05-21 09:16:12 PM  
1 vote:
The pastor delivered his address from Narnia.
2012-05-21 08:54:23 PM  
1 vote:

Weaver95: Oh, and before we get too much into 'OMG all christianz iz lik dis!!111!1!' consider that this pastor is a baptist. they're the guys who give fire and brimstone hellfire preachers indigestion.


Sorry, Weaver -- Farkers don't listen to reason when there's blood in the water.
2012-05-21 08:39:17 PM  
1 vote:
Holy Ghost to God:"You never give me a chance. You don't know what I can do."
/should be a very obscure film quote.
2012-05-21 08:38:29 PM  
1 vote:

scottydoesntknow: "Build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long -- put all the lesbians in there,"

Go on....


I have that on DVD.
2012-05-21 08:07:07 PM  
1 vote:
Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on fire.
 
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