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2012-05-21 11:25:00 PM  

Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though.


only with Abraham. before that he accepted blood sacrifices. and even after that he accepted animal blood sacrifices. Christ was "created" to end all that barbaric blood sacrifice stuff. The "church" was losing popularity and they had to make changes to keep up with societal changes. Much like the prosperity gospel where greed is good.
 
2012-05-21 11:25:08 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: [www.alteredearth.com image 406x604]
Here we go


It IS 2012 after all...

lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-05-21 11:25:43 PM  
FTFA: The pastor's comments seem in line with statements made by Ron Baity, founding pastor of Berean Baptist Church in Winston-Salem and head of the anti-marriage equality organization Return America, who told his own congregation that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people should be prosecuted as they were historically, and Pastor Sean Harris of the Berean Baptist Church in Fayetteville who advocated parents "punch" their male child if he is effeminate and "crack that wrist" if he is limp-wristed.

I don't see how that would solve the "problem".
i75.photobucket.com

I went ahead and looked up this "Ron Baity" character and found his shiatty website, but the kicker was this: his contact info? A farking Hotmail account!
i75.photobucket.com
Someone should hack that shiat and find his Male Escort dox.

But the main event is Captain Concentration Camp himself, the man, the legend; Charles L. Worley!....

Man that's a lame website. I can't even make fun of it, it's that lame.

Anyway, this guy broke the law since he just electioneered from the pulpit, but as well all know that doesn't actually matter if you are a Republican.
 
2012-05-21 11:26:30 PM  
LeroyBourne
He asks his congregation if they could imagine kissing a man, then he just stands there and stares into the abyss. I knew exactly what was going in his mind.

Hey Pastor, most of the women in the congregation can imagine kissing a man, and probably do on a regular basis.
 
2012-05-21 11:26:45 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Worley added, "It makes me pukin' sick to think about -- I don't even whether or not to say this in the pulpit -- can you imagine kissing some man?"

They cut off the rest of his speech:

"And touching his penis. Can you imagine putting his penis in your mouth? It's disgusting. Oh, and then his large member would go inside of my the anus. Finally he would spread his homosexual seed on my face. It's wrong. Large gay penises."


These guys really do get excited about homosexuality.


A winrar is you.

These mofos just need to come out of the closet and be happy with who they are.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:04 PM  

PonceAlyosha: Actually, you're out of the mainstream because you're a decent person who doesn't use your religion as a tool for political power.


Actually, I would argue that he is in the mainstream. You just never hear about folks like him. You do hear about these bigots, however. Sadly, it is just about every day.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:09 PM  
Thank you Christians for giving humanity another example of the hazards of living a worthless, god-clotted life. I think this cat might go to the top of my list when I am explaining to some family and friends why I will never join their silly cults, and why America is better off remaining a secular nation.

LeglessDog: Kudos to SUBBY for the quotation marks around Christian . . .


But, the guy IS a Christian. Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:10 PM  

astro716: But do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

/Des Moines Iowa, perfect example
//I like you, Stewart


Bill Jr. is that you?
 
2012-05-21 11:27:17 PM  

foxyshadis: SilentStrider: [pics.livejournal.com image 640x610]

This seems appropriate.

In reality, "Traditional" is code for "whatever things I believed about the world growing up," and now that whole generations have been told repeatedly that the nuclear Cleaver family was the perfect lifestyle aspiration free of any sin or corruption, of course it's impossible to get anyone who didn't live then to realize that it's just a TV fantasy, no more reflective of most peoples' lives than I Dream of Genie.


If I had to pick a fantasy life, I'd choose I Dream of Jeannie over Leave It To Beaver any day of the week.

For a short time (about a month) several years ago my life was like Three's Company. That was a good month.

However, my childhood was more like All In The Family mixed with That 70s Show until I got married, at which point it became closer to Married With Children minus the children, but with a dash of Hoarders.

Then it became Divorce Court.

Now, however, it's a bit more like Bewitched, minus the teleportation, people being turned into animals, and Uncle Arthur.

/Happily, it has never been like Reno 911.
//Even more happily, it has never been like Oz.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:24 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: [www.alteredearth.com image 406x604]
Here we go


thanks for the pic !
 
2012-05-21 11:27:28 PM  
"Build a great, big, large fence -- 150 or 100 mile long -- put all the lesbians in there,"

Dont forget the cameras, lots and lots of cameras.
 
2012-05-21 11:28:34 PM  

Weaver95: astro716: But do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

growing flowers? resdesigning the garden?

seriously. I know a lesbian couple in my town that have a fantastic garden. taken them years of trial and error but I think this year they finally got it right.


that's probably because up until a few years ago you'd have your dog over there tearing it up ;)
 
2012-05-21 11:28:37 PM  

teeny: I usually get a little depressed in the Christian/religious bashing threads. But this is officially 100x more depressing. Living a life that emulates Christ should be an honorable thing...nothing like this pastor's hate-driven derp. Never once in the recorded life of Christ did he condemn being homosexual as being any worse than other sins. In fact, the only righteous anger he ever showed was for the money changers, and I don't see any pastors crucifying them.

I would have made a big, showy protest about walking out in the middle of this nozzle's speech.


A billion times this. The only time Christ ever got furious and lost his shiat was when people were using the church to make themselves lots of money.
 
2012-05-21 11:28:57 PM  

theknuckler_33: Seriously.


Yeah. I read somewhere that Cain and Able each had a twin sister that was their wife and bore children, who I guess eventually farked each other. Pretty gross. No wonder the churches play that shiat down.
 
2012-05-21 11:29:09 PM  

North_Central_Positronics: Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on firewonder how deep in the closet he is?


FTFY
 
2012-05-21 11:29:41 PM  

Gyrfalcon: MisterLoki: You guys are the real bigots for being intolerant of his intolerance.

You bet. I'm proudly intolerant of stupidity, bigotry and general assholery.

Because f*ck them, that's why.


Amen, sister ; )
 
2012-05-21 11:29:48 PM  

CK2005: teeny: I usually get a little depressed in the Christian/religious bashing threads. But this is officially 100x more depressing. Living a life that emulates Christ should be an honorable thing...nothing like this pastor's hate-driven derp. Never once in the recorded life of Christ did he condemn being homosexual as being any worse than other sins. In fact, the only righteous anger he ever showed was for the money changers, and I don't see any pastors crucifying them.

I would have made a big, showy protest about walking out in the middle of this nozzle's speech.

A billion times this. The only time Christ ever got furious and lost his shiat was when people were using the church to make themselves lots of money.


Thank God no one has tried that since then.
 
2012-05-21 11:31:47 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though.

only with Abraham. before that he accepted blood sacrifices. and even after that he accepted animal blood sacrifices. Christ was "created" to end all that barbaric blood sacrifice stuff. The "church" was losing popularity and they had to make changes to keep up with societal changes. Much like the prosperity gospel where greed is good.


You know, I have heard this before, but with subsequent generations white-washing the shiat out of their own history I've never seen evidence. Do you know of any texts or artifacts, apocryphal or otherwise, giving more weight to it?

I mean it's hard for me to believe a primitive sand religion dating back that far DIDN'T, but human sacrifice is one of those things people like to NOT talk about.
 
2012-05-21 11:32:03 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: [www.alteredearth.com image 406x604]
Here we go


If this goes on
 
2012-05-21 11:33:49 PM  
He's just preachin' to the choir-

wait, what happened to the choir?
 
2012-05-21 11:33:55 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.


I think that you could make a pretty strong case that this guy really does not follow the same book that posits the positive connotation of the Golden Rule as one of its basic tenants.
 
2012-05-21 11:34:26 PM  

StoneColdAtheist: North_Central_Positronics: Everything they do is so dramatic and flamboyant. It just makes me want to set myself on firewonder how deep in the closet he is?

FTFY


Honey he's so far in the closet he has become a hand basket.
/Apologies to the original
//Shouldn't be obscure.
 
2012-05-21 11:35:56 PM  

Weaver95: gilgigamesh: Weaver95: WorldCitizen: If there is a God who agrees with this man, all hope is lost.

oh there's a couple of gods out there that would agree with this ranting...they're just not christian ones.

couple/few of the old gods would be just fine with blood sacrifices. Moloch, Ba'al, some of the babylonian gods.

...Yahweh....

*cough*

Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though. I think he was more into dicking with your mind then actually being 'evil'. sort of like having a big brother who really does try to do the right thing, but goes about it all wrong.

Then there's Christ, who's actually a pretty decent god. his followers though...yeesh. some of those guys either didn't get the message or they're just working for some of the old gods and/or demons and using Christ as camoflage. Or maybe the old ones ganged up on Jesus and murdered him and keep his skinned corpse around as a shared disguse. At any rate, a lot of people pretend to follow the Christian god but don't actually do anything he said that his followers should be doing.

And last - but not least - there's the Holy Spirit. Who gets something of a bad rap. sort of like the silent, creepy younger brother. he hangs around and inspires people. sort of like a muse...he fires you up and then lets you loose to do your stuff. In theory, Christ is supposed to direct that passion to do good things...but given how many people aren't actually doing Christ's work, mostly that passion gets misdirected. so these days, the Spirit sort of gave up and works at skate parks in southern california.


Welcome to my favorite list you cunning linguist you. The default color is green but if you have a preference you would prefer associated with you just let me know.
 
2012-05-21 11:36:36 PM  
How long until he's outed as a meth addled dude hooker user?
 
2012-05-21 11:36:37 PM  
So I suppose that once the gays are gone there will be no more gays because everyone knows that straight people only make straight children.
 
2012-05-21 11:36:38 PM  

LesserEvil: Germany was ripe for National Socialism. Defeated by their ancient enemies (with centuries of wars behind them), drowning in hyper-inflated marks, backed into a corner by powers that were just revealing themselves as ultimately toothless, it was ripe for that sort of transformation. Education was limited to the practical. Social equality simply didn't exist then.

America would fall into anarchy before tyrannical rule could hold power here. Even that would take decades of punishment by idiotic policies, economic failure and more impossibly, a total collapse of the US Dollar (considering there is probably more cash held around the world, and it is still universally used in markets ranging from black to legit, I doubt that could ever happen.)

On that note, I'm signing off of this argument. Have a good night.



Too bad, because fascism isn't a style of government. Nazism was only a totalitarian government, a dictatorship of no particular distinction, after all. Fascism is first and foremost a popular movement. All fascism is, is ultranationalism. The mistake people have made for the last 70 years is to try to equate Nazis with fascism and assure themselves that no Nazi government could ever arise again. That's true; but only because it would never need to. Fascism can arise under ANY form of government; and right now, America is more fascist than it has been than at any time in our history. A democracy is probably MORE prone to fascism because the only thing that keeps a democracy together is a sense of nationalism. We have no monarch to hold us together in a crisis, we have no shared religion. What we have is a sense of exceptionalism, of our nation as special and unique, which is what Paxton called "stage one fascism."

The basic elements of fascism are:
* A cult of tradition or an overwhelming nostalgia for an idealized past, combined with a rejection of modernity, EXCEPT for a fascination for high-tech military equipment.

* A belief in a nebulous yet all-powerful enemy. A simultaneous belief in the might and superiority of the enemy, yet a supreme confidence that that enemy can and will be defeated by OUR purity and power.

* A fear of compromise, which is seen as weakness; and a dislike of diversity in any form (culture, religion, language, education). This is combined with an overall fear of peace, unless it is OUR peace, dictated by OUR terms.

* The "right of the people" is paramount, and the "rights of the individual" must be subverted to the rights of the state; and especially where the rights of the "people" are seen as being threatened by any of the above enemies, diversities, weaknesses or traditions.

I mean, does this sound like a country you might be living in today? A country obsessed with fears of an overwhelming "Islamofascism" that manages to be strong yet weak; a country run by people who never want to compromise and hate anyone who isn't like them? And who long for a perfect past when nothing was wrong? We don't need to have Nazis in full regalia to have fascism. We've got it already, right now.
 
2012-05-21 11:37:44 PM  

TheBigJerk: You know, I have heard this before, but with subsequent generations white-washing the shiat out of their own history I've never seen evidence. Do you know of any texts or artifacts, apocryphal or otherwise, giving more weight to it?

I mean it's hard for me to believe a primitive sand religion dating back that far DIDN'T, but human sacrifice is one of those things people like to NOT talk about.


In recorded history, there is no evidence of human sacrifice in Judaism. However, until the romans destroyed the Temple on the Mount, the carried out bovine blood sacrifice.
 
2012-05-21 11:38:46 PM  
What can I say? American conservative Christianity is all about hate. There is no love whatsoever.

Maybe they just think Jesus was a Nazi.
Maybe they are just retarded.
 
2012-05-21 11:39:24 PM  

Bacontastesgood: theknuckler_33: Seriously.

Yeah. I read somewhere that Cain and Able each had a twin sister that was their wife and bore children, who I guess eventually farked each other. Pretty gross. No wonder the churches play that shiat down.


Well, when you have to believe that the bible is a literal/factual history resulting in 6000 years of all of universal history, you have to do some serious mental gymnastics to make it all fit. Like the "leviathan" and "behemoth" are dinosaurs. Of course the leviathan is described in Job as a fire-breathing dragon... so yea.

My fav was when my friend acknowledged that we know the stars are many many more than 6000 light years from earth and how God created star-light in motion so that star light appeared on earth the moment the stars were created so far away. I think there's some 'creation science' theory about light-speed having been much much faster back then and it has slowed down since then.
 
2012-05-21 11:39:43 PM  

astro716: But do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

/Des Moines Iowa, perfect example
//I like you, Stewart


*gives astro716 a burrow owl, because he's not like the other people here, in the trailer park*
 
2012-05-21 11:39:51 PM  
Doesn't he know gay people are each just a piece of satan's soul reborn as man? Putting them all together will just lead to one giant orgy and the unity and resurrection of satan!
 
2012-05-21 11:40:05 PM  

rynthetyn: I was once at a Southern Baptist church where the interim pastor deliberately made sure to finish the service 10 minutes before the other Southern Baptist church that he used to be at.


What is the point of that? If he was "hardcore", shouldn't he making his sermons 10 minutes longer?

(BTW - Did you get the Criterion Collection set of Rashomon I ordered off your Amazon wishlist? Have you watched it yet?)
 
2012-05-21 11:41:42 PM  

G-Rot: He's just preachin' to the choir-

wait, what happened to the choir?


hehe
 
2012-05-21 11:42:26 PM  
Why don't we turn this guy's position on it's head: Put all the pastors and nuns behind that fence. They're not supposed to reproduce, they'll die out or expose themselves as hypocrites.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: I always hear blanket statements from Christians regarding the Muslim faith all being terrorists because they don't do enough to denounce the crazies among them. Well, Christians, here's an example of a crazy among you who is just as vile as those that committed the attacks of 9-11. He condones mass murder; he is calling for it. The only difference is that those guys actually had the balls to go through with their horrible plans, while this guy is most likely just a cowardly raging pussy that can't handle someone being a little different than him. I'm willing to bet that, with the exception of a few individuals here, this man's sickening and violent rhetoric will not be denounced to any major extent. This is why I despise Christianity. It isn't that one crazy says something like this; it's that the powers that be within your organization will turn a blind eye to it while condemning others for doing the same thing.


1) He's not calling for mass murder. He's expecting them to die out because they can't reproduce.

2) He's getting a lot of ridicule. To me that's a perfectly acceptable way to show you disagree with the guy.
 
2012-05-21 11:43:20 PM  

HeadLever: PonceAlyosha: Actually, you're out of the mainstream because you're a decent person who doesn't use your religion as a tool for political power.

Actually, I would argue that he is in the mainstream. You just never hear about folks like him. You do hear about these bigots, however. Sadly, it is just about every day.


Yeah, but I do think a lot of this boils down to the media. Not to get all lamestream-ey, but do you think a minister or a priest would make the news with a statement saying they support same-sex marriage o something? Its just cheap sensation combined with some seriously crazy denominations/sects out there.
/they should all make an effort to modernize to the civil rights era at least, IMO
 
2012-05-21 11:43:28 PM  

LittleSmitty: Jeez, things like this are why I'm Atheist

/former Baptist


Same here!
 
2012-05-21 11:43:51 PM  

Brytanica1: astro716: But do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

/Des Moines Iowa, perfect example
//I like you, Stewart

*gives astro716 a burrow owl, because he's not like the other people here, in the trailer park*


Jeez, thank you. I was worried that reference wouldn't get caught and I would sound like a bigot.
 
2012-05-21 11:44:24 PM  

pastorsteve: As a Christian pastor, I want to express my deep regret for this inexpressibly hideous thing that was said by a colleague - however out of the mainstream of Christian teaching he is. I am sorry.


You don't have to apologize. You've done nothing wrong, and in fact speaking out to condemn his remarks is a great thing. I thank you for it.

Here's the problem (and this isn't directed at you personally). All the good will and best wishes from the right side of the aisle doesn't mean a hill of beans until you start voting people who are ok with the gays into elected office. Among the steady stream of anti-gay legislation on both the state and national level, when is the last time you saw or heard a Republican take the floor and say "no, this is wrong?" I can't remember.

Start voting for people who don't hate homosexuals. Start telling candidates that their anti-gay stance is unacceptable. That's the only way true change will come about.
 
2012-05-21 11:45:14 PM  

Vodka Zombie:
LeglessDog: Kudos to SUBBY for the quotation marks around Christian . . .

But, the guy IS a Christian. Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.



He is as much a "Christian" as al-Qaeda is "Muslim" . . . they follow some of the ritual and customs, but their extremist views isolate them from the rest of the masses who don't believe in hating God's children or murdering the innocent.

My point was simply that it was refreshing to see a subby who wasn't a trollmitter who felt the need to lump them in with the rest of us who aren't hateful people . . .

. . . and then you came along.
 
2012-05-21 11:46:01 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Start voting for people who don't hate homosexuals. Start telling candidates that their anti-gay stance is unacceptable. That's the only way true change will come about.


well the old people are dying and the young people are pretty much done with this bullshiat. pretty much.
 
2012-05-21 11:46:30 PM  

HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.

I think that you could make a pretty strong case that this guy really does not follow the same book that posits the positive connotation of the Golden Rule as one of its basic tenants.


Well, then it's a question of interpretation. But, he's still a Christian.
 
2012-05-21 11:46:34 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope:

If you've never seen the film "Marjoe", you should. And not just the parts about him - look at the other preachers and how they operate.


It's been years since I last saw that movie. I think my favorite part is where they show Marjoe singing God's praises on his bed as he counting all the money he collected during the service.
 
2012-05-21 11:47:22 PM  

Lord Jubjub: Whitewashed sepulchers.


Allow me to repeat myself.
 
2012-05-21 11:49:12 PM  

Weaver95: seriously. I know a lesbian couple in my town that have a fantastic garden. taken them years of trial and error but I think this year they finally got it right.


I'm sure they had a hard time dealing with their bushes, but after facing the problem head on, those gals licked it real good.
 
2012-05-21 11:50:40 PM  

Vodka Zombie: HeadLever: Vodka Zombie: Just because you may not like what he has to say, he follows the same book and worships the same god as all other Christians.

I think that you could make a pretty strong case that this guy really does not follow the same book that posits the positive connotation of the Golden Rule as one of its basic tenants.

Well, then it's a question of interpretation. But, he's still a Christian.


And he's really helping the brand out, let me tell you.

/Christianity isn't a religion, it's a logo.
//Jesus isn't a person, he's the logos.
 
2012-05-21 11:50:55 PM  

newton: I love how he says "God Have Mercy!" after his diatribe.
It's simple but it amuses me.


If there's a God and he has no mercy, then farkwits like this d-bag are pretty screwed.

The beatitudes, how do they work?
 
2012-05-21 11:52:45 PM  
It will be a great day when Charles L. Worley, along with his entire family, is tortured to death. In fact, I would love it if we had a national holiday to commemorate the date; we could call it "Slow, painful death to Charles L. Worley day". I'm sure Hallmark would love it. OK, just kidding, about the Hallmark part.
 
2012-05-21 11:53:48 PM  

astro716: Brytanica1: astro716: But do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

/Des Moines Iowa, perfect example
//I like you, Stewart

*gives astro716 a burrow owl, because he's not like the other people here, in the trailer park*

Jeez, thank you. I was worried that reference wouldn't get caught and I would sound like a bigot.


Later on we'll take some retards to the zoo in my biatchin' camaro.

;)
 
2012-05-21 11:53:51 PM  
I love freedom of speech, but free people pay taxes. It's time to tax the church.
 
2012-05-21 11:54:01 PM  

TheBigJerk: Hobodeluxe: Weaver95: Yahweh wimped out at the last minute though.

only with Abraham. before that he accepted blood sacrifices. and even after that he accepted animal blood sacrifices. Christ was "created" to end all that barbaric blood sacrifice stuff. The "church" was losing popularity and they had to make changes to keep up with societal changes. Much like the prosperity gospel where greed is good.

You know, I have heard this before, but with subsequent generations white-washing the shiat out of their own history I've never seen evidence. Do you know of any texts or artifacts, apocryphal or otherwise, giving more weight to it?

I mean it's hard for me to believe a primitive sand religion dating back that far DIDN'T, but human sacrifice is one of those things people like to NOT talk about.


Yahweh has always been a blood for the blood god sort of guy, but it was always the blood of anyone but the righteous. A neighboring tribe was never "righteous," nor was a neighbor who murdered a righteous member of the clan, though at least the neighboring tribe could eventually be made righteous by slaughtering their men and enslaving their women and children for a few generations. There is absolutely no evidence that Yahweh ever asked for the blood of the righteous, and anytime someone took an action in that direction that could be claimed to have come from God, it was stated (retconned?) as coming from man's sin; some Jewish scholars believe that the binding of Isaac was actually Abraham's misunderstanding or a false vision.

On the flip side, when times are really tough, people kill their kids. It happened in 2000 BC and it happens today. Although no reliable records of the period survive, things couldn't have been that much different and maybe it was a sensationalized story of even a great prophet falling victim to famine, which would have been understood at the time but is kind of lost now that our culture never goes hungry.

Me? I think Abraham was just a madman, like Joseph Smith.
 
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