Kurmudgeon: Continue you on with your faith that everything came from nothing.

You know what I've always wondered? Who made God? Who was God's mom? Did she have big titties? She would have had to, to breastfeed God, because I bet God is huge, and His appetite for milk when He was BabyGod must have been enormous. I bet God's Mom's rack is just INSANE.

COMALite J: vernonFL: which they have come to call "the first 9/11."

Never fergit

skullkrusher: I think there were earlier first 9/11's

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Well, the Mountain Meadows Massacre actually was on 9/11/1857!

One loon has used this to try to say that Mormons were really the ones behind 9/11/2001, too. Oh, yeah, and the Oklahoma City bombing.

ox45tallboy: bugontherug: ox45tallboy: It's still a farked up system of belief founded by a charlatan to justify his desire for farking young girls.

Back then, you really didn't have to make up a religion to f*ck young girls. Sexual norms regarding age difference were more in line with biology then.

Now, you certainly had to make up a religion to f*ck lots of young girls.

I'm afraid you need a serious history lesson if you think it was normal in society back then to invite young girls into your home, and in some cases ADOPT THEM, and then proceed to say God had personally told you they should start letting you fark them. Even his first wife, Emma Smith, was furious about several of them. Sorry, but you're wrong on this.

HIstory lesson? Hell, that's Current Events thanks to Warren Jepps.

ox45tallboy: PonceAlyosha: Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: PonceAlyosha: You know why? Because religious people don't care about anything but power.

Thank you, tip your waitress.

I don't care about power, I care about getting my dick wet. Because I can do that, I don't need power.

Yeah, Ms. Alyosha said you could use a little more power. Last night. While I was giving her "more power".

I'm gay, so I think you may want to check the front of my Missus.

ox45tallboy: It's scary not because he believes that crap, but because he believes it so much he went overseas to convert other people.

Still doesn't scare me. People proselytize all the time.

ox45tallboy: And he has stated that he has preached in his congregation before.

Well, that's kind of a different thing. First off, he was a Bishop, which is the leader of the Ward, which is a division kind of like a congregation. Wards meet at specific times and have their Sunday School and stuff together. Also, everyone in the Church more or less 'preaches'. There are always speakers at church with inspiring messages, and the first Sunday of every month is Fast Sunday, where nobody gets to eats until after church(Hence the 'fasting' part.), but also the church meeting is kind of like open mic night. Anyone is welcome to come up and talk about how they have been inspired, how their faith is strong, how they can inspire others, what they think God means to them, etc... Basically, they are all preaching to the rest of the congregation, so there's that. In other words, there are 2 different ways that he's 'preached', and neither one of them is unique. Anyone can be Bishop, the Stake President just has to feel that you have been "called"... Well, not "anyone", you do have to have advanced through the priesthood they have set up...


ox45tallboy: Perhaps they were wrong, but the 12-ft high walls surrounding the place and bunker-like appearance of the building itself said to me "withstand a siege".

Well, most likely that compound housed the Temple, which doesn't say 'siege' to me, an old church building, the Temple visitor's center, and the auditorium for the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. The wall help keep vandals and burglars out(The statue on top DOES have real gold), it also makes sure that when you are visiting the Temple grounds, they can have the people with information brochures at specific spots, but it's really crappy as far as defense goes. It'll keep people out, but they don't have defensive positions to repel anybody, so they would be reduced to sitting and waiting. Defensively it sucks. Tour buddy was either screwing with you, or is just a but on the paranoid 'Mormons are out to get me' side. They aren't that scary of people, I moved here totally by choice, and with absolutely ZERO interest in joining their church, because they make great neighbors, they are extremely friendly, they are always there if you need help(Death in the family, house fire, natural disaster, etc), whether you are a church member or not, and because the crime is wonderfully low, especially compared to farking Phoenix, which is where I moved from.

They really aren't that bad of people, they don't have fangs, they can cross running water, eat garlic, and come out in daylight... ;-)

This just in blindly clinging to a religion unquestioningly will increase likelihood of xenophobia and desire to murder others.



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SithLord: derpdeederp: SithLord

The concern is thus that Romney, way back when, took an oath to the Church as first and foremost, all other oaths are secondary. This in turn, would include the one he could take in January.

Yah, well Sith Lord took an oath to the Sith Master, so were does that put you.

Under a Sith theocratic meritocracy, only the strong shall be confirmed as rulers. The weak will always falter and be put down. Those destined to be leaders will remove those who can not. Peace is a lie, there is only passion....

Plus, the dark side has cookies.

Behold, the chosen cookie that will bring balance to the force.

theknuckler_33: You don't find it more silly that people in the 1850s (or whatever) weren't more intelligent than the people of the 0's when it came to calling 'shenanigans' when it came to prophets...

No. People are stupid and superstitious. That hasn't changed in the last 2000 years, and it won't change in the next 2000 years. Don't imagine things somehow got better just because you have a cell phone that can remind you to put the gazpacho on ice.

Kurmudgeon: Continue you on with your faith that everything came from nothing.

So you think he's christian?

Epoch_Zero: Can we all please just agree that all religions are dumb and out-dated already? Please? We have science to benefit from and reality to experience.

Sorry Hitler, you'll just have to tolerate that people believe differently than you.
Continue you on with your faith that everything came from nothing.

NateGrey: I am a little concerned if Mitt Romney becomes President.

Do we all have to wear magic under garments? Will there be a constitutional amendment?

This also concerns me:

He told me that there was a council room up there which was an exact replica of the Oval Office of the White House. He told me they even had all the radio and telemetry equipment in place, hidden beneath a dome on top of the temple. He said that from this council room, the prophet could run the nation just as easily as he could from the White House itself. He also claimed that these electronic devices on the roof were so strong that airlines had to avoid flying right over the temple or their instruments might be thrown off.

The concern is thus that Romney, way back when, took an oath to the Church as first and foremost, all other oaths are secondary. This in turn, would include the one he could take in January.

I am a little concerned if Mitt Romney becomes President.

Do we all have to wear magic under garments? Will there be a constitutional amendment?

This also concerns me:

He told me that there was a council room up there which was an exact replica of the Oval Office of the White House. He told me they even had all the radio and telemetry equipment in place, hidden beneath a dome on top of the temple. He said that from this council room, the prophet could run the nation just as easily as he could from the White House itself. He also claimed that these electronic devices on the roof were so strong that airlines had to avoid flying right over the temple or their instruments might be thrown off.

Progressive evolution = Attack.....attack.....atterp ......aderp.....derp.....

The problem isn't what some Mormon did 150 years ago.

The problem is Mormon Romney stating in front of a group of people and saying that marriage has been between and man and a woman, and it's been that way for 2,500 years, without explaining why only 150 years ago his Mormon great grandfather left the united states to practice polygamy. (Thats not even mentioning the changing definition in the billion other sects of Christianity over the years)

Facts are pesky things. You can't just make them up. And if you're going to spew wargarble, prepare for the shiat storm incoming.

Barack Obama's grandfather fought in WWII. How will this affect his relationship with Angela Merkel?