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2012-05-21 12:08:12 PM
The brains of parents are chock-full of hormones that cause them to feel this happiness and love towards their children. If they weren't, there would be more baby skulls dashed upon rocks during about the third or so week of having to wake up every few hours to tend to the little buggers.

So yeah, flawed study is flawed.
 
2012-05-21 12:16:08 PM
Older and married parents tend to be the happiest. "Our findings suggest that if you are older (and presumably more mature) and if you are married (and presumably have more social and financial support), then you're likely to be happier if you have children than your childless peers," Lyubomirsky said. "This is not true, however, for single parents or very young parents."

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know. And broke...they forgot to add the poverty factor in there.
 
2012-05-21 12:32:38 PM

kid_icarus:

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know. And broke...they forgot to add the poverty factor in there.


This is true. Sitting around a house all day with nothing to do and screaming kids, is not fun. The park and library are only fun so many times.
 
2012-05-21 12:36:20 PM
I don't care, subby, I'm still not going to get you pregnant.
 
2012-05-21 12:47:05 PM
I don't care if I'd be blissful, those kids wouldn't be. I'll be a fantastic uncle but a shiat dad, and I am well aware of it.
 
2012-05-21 01:43:47 PM
Rebuttal: any supermarket or large retail store on a Saturday
 
2012-05-21 01:47:43 PM
Yes, I hate the daily anguish of having to decide what to do with all my extra income and time. If only I had children, this wouldn't be an issue.
 
2012-05-21 01:48:42 PM

kid_icarus: "This is not true, however, for single parents or very young parents."

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know.


It always seems like people just despise their children once the little fruit hits toddler/talking stage.

Generally the scene will play out likethis

"Mommy! Mommy! Mommy!"
"*sigh* Yes, sweetie?"
"I love you"
"*deeper sigh* I love you...too"
"Mommy! I want that!"
"No, sweetie"
"BUT I WANT IT!!!"
[Repeat]
 
2012-05-21 01:51:28 PM

kid_icarus: Older and married parents tend to be the happiest. "Our findings suggest that if you are older (and presumably more mature) and if you are married (and presumably have more social and financial support), then you're likely to be happier if you have children than your childless peers," Lyubomirsky said. "This is not true, however, for single parents or very young parents."

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know. And broke...they forgot to add the poverty factor in there.


Yeah, it sounds like they focused on a bunch of 30-something couples with money and careers, in order to get their study to come out the way they wanted. And that demographic is also more likely to be a couple that planned their kids which means they were ready and willing for parenthood.
 
2012-05-21 01:52:26 PM
Oh, and this:

imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-05-21 01:58:12 PM
.....after the children move out
 
2012-05-21 01:59:27 PM
it's sad that I have to live vicariously through myselfspank socks
 
2012-05-21 01:59:49 PM

Gig103: Oh, and this:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x256]


I am very happy without the bags of money.
 
2012-05-21 02:00:46 PM
I have two young children and am quite happy to be back at work on Monday after caring for the kids all weekend.

Just sayin.
 
2012-05-21 02:01:35 PM
This thread:

"Nuh uh!"

"Ya HUH!"

"NU UNH!"

"YAH HUNH!"
 
2012-05-21 02:02:33 PM
Oh look, it's this thread.
 
2012-05-21 02:03:05 PM
My daughter RULES!

Her mother sucks though...
 
2012-05-21 02:04:04 PM

Kaka: My daughter RULES!

Her mother sucks though...


That's what makes a happy marriage - the sucking.
 
2012-05-21 02:04:23 PM

Gig103: Oh, and this:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x256]


That always reminds me of the sides of WWll fighter planes stamped with flags and silhouettes of enemy kills.
 
2012-05-21 02:04:24 PM
People that are financially secure are happier? Cool story bro.
 
2012-05-21 02:04:28 PM
I think we need to define our terms here.

/jk
//WAAY happier with my kids than I am with my wife.
 
2012-05-21 02:04:47 PM
Is it as obvious to you as it is to me? People self-reporting about anything is fraught with problems. Self-reporting about the happiness production of children, in particular, the life project of all parents, is not going to be self reported very well at all.
 
2012-05-21 02:05:13 PM

Kaka: My daughter RULES!

Her mother sucks though...


She obviously does more than suck.
 
2012-05-21 02:05:33 PM
No kids - currently raising two mutts. 43 and very happy (married 19 years). We should be retiring in about 10 years or so, which will greatly increase the happiness factor.

I guess I'm just a jolly little outlier.
 
2012-05-21 02:05:47 PM
A parent can never explain to a non-parent what it's like having a child / children. No matter how detailed you go into the good and not so good aspects, you just can't do it.

I'm not saying one side is right or wrong. For new parents (assuming a couple having kids, not bringing unplanned pregnancies into it) it completely changes everything in parents' lives to the point where trying to compare something like "happiness" between the two is simply not possible.

/new parent
//misses some things from the pre-kid days, but wouldn't change anything
 
2012-05-21 02:05:48 PM
Are not endorphins such fun?

Same they are no cure for pointless "research" drawing conclusions from flawed "research" that begs the issue for "more research".
 
2012-05-21 02:06:15 PM
I have dealt with more shiat in my life because of people who thought I should have kids. Seriously. I'm being sterilized this summer. I would be sterile NOW if I hadn't had a procedure fail in January (doctor fully refunded me though so hey). I don't like kids. I've never liked kids. I decided I wasn't having any when I was five years old and I haven't wavered an inch in 23 years for crying out loud..

But other women, who happen to be moms, will have shiat fits at me when I state I'm not having kids when they ask if I have any. The women who accept this are rare, rare finds. Most take it as a personal affront. Some are flat out sexist about it, or try to shame me into it using women who can't have kids as a whacking stick.

Nevermind I'm barely responsible enough to take care of my bearded dragon.

/also nevermind I travel and work six twelves a week most of the year
//happily single
///paid cash for my Honda
 
2012-05-21 02:06:24 PM
Children compel you to be happy. If you happen to be childless, then all you need do is come up with a different compelling reason.
For example, through a reputable charity be a godsend to disadvantaged children with the confident knowledge that someday, at least one of those children will grow up and say "My mama/daddy wasn't around very much, but I sure learned a lot from [ _______ ]."
 
2012-05-21 02:06:32 PM
Seems like between the costs and the constant monitoring having kids would be more of a pain in the ass than it was, say in the 80s,...
 
2012-05-21 02:07:31 PM

Gig103: Oh, and this:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x256]


I saw the saddest thing the other day.

It was one of those "family" stickers on the back of the car. Mom, dad, and 3 kids... except the "dad" sticker looked angrilly scratched off.

/poor kids
 
2012-05-21 02:07:37 PM

Evil Mackerel: Gig103: Oh, and this:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x256]

That always reminds me of the sides of WWll fighter planes stamped with flags and silhouettes of enemy kills.


I had some little bicycles like that on my car door for a while.
 
2012-05-21 02:07:48 PM
Guess my wife and I will have to go to Belize for a couple of weeks to take our minds off of how unhappy we are.
 
2012-05-21 02:08:30 PM

what_now: Oh look, it's this thread.


Are you unhappy?
 
2012-05-21 02:09:16 PM
Yeah, I doubt it. I mean, I love my kid and all, but man was it nice to have two incomes for two people with no incentive or desire to be home before midnight.

I can't objectively say that my life is better with a two year old around, just fun in a different way.
 
2012-05-21 02:10:05 PM

Lollipop165: Gig103: Oh, and this:

[imgs.xkcd.com image 640x256]

I saw the saddest thing the other day.

It was one of those "family" stickers on the back of the car. Mom, dad, and 3 kids... except the "dad" sticker looked angrilly scratched off.

/poor kids


haha, nice!
 
2012-05-21 02:10:43 PM

Ringshadow: I have dealt with more shiat in my life because of people who thought I should have kids. Seriously. I'm being sterilized this summer. I would be sterile NOW if I hadn't had a procedure fail in January (doctor fully refunded me though so hey). I don't like kids. I've never liked kids. I decided I wasn't having any when I was five years old and I haven't wavered an inch in 23 years for crying out loud..

But other women, who happen to be moms, will have shiat fits at me when I state I'm not having kids when they ask if I have any. The women who accept this are rare, rare finds. Most take it as a personal affront. Some are flat out sexist about it, or try to shame me into it using women who can't have kids as a whacking stick.

Nevermind I'm barely responsible enough to take care of my bearded dragon.

/also nevermind I travel and work six twelves a week most of the year
//happily single
///paid cash for my Honda


You had me up until the Honda part. Oh well.
 
2012-05-21 02:10:53 PM
Older and married parents tend to be the happiest.

Unlike their younger counterparts they have been telling themselves that they love being parents so long that they have come to believe it, and they have forgotten what it is like to actually be happy.
 
2012-05-21 02:11:28 PM

Monkey MKIII: what_now: Oh look, it's this thread.

Are you unhappy?


Right now? I'm a little sunburned, and I wish my cleaning lady would show up already, but my life choices have nothing to do with statistical analysis, and I'm quite certain this thread is going to be filled with people doing their DAMNEDEST to convince other people they their life choices were the best.
 
2012-05-21 02:12:35 PM
Hmmm... I'll have to make time to think about that.

Maybe I can fit it in between golf trips, motorcycle trips, Vegas trips... and counting my money.
 
2012-05-21 02:13:19 PM

Aar1012: kid_icarus: "This is not true, however, for single parents or very young parents."

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know.

It always seems like people just despise their children once the little fruit hits toddler/talking stage.

Generally the scene will play out likethis

"Mommy! Mommy! Mommy!"
"*sigh* Yes, sweetie?"
"I love you"
"*deeper sigh* I love you...too"
"Mommy! I want that!"
"No, sweetie"
"BUT I WANT IT!!!"
[Repeat]


Yea, but that eases up after they hit about 4 or so (it did for my kids anyways)

Parenting is about attitude. Are they gonna grate your nerves some days? Fark yes they are. Are they fun and awesome other days? Of course.

I have a five year old, an eight year old, and an eleven year old, and oh yea... Im also divorced and considered a "Single Mother"

I still manage to have a freaking blast with my kids on a regular basis... We watch Eddy Izzard flicks, go on camping trip adventures, goof off, go to Metal Concerts, and wander around the desert like crazy people.

People who think happiness is a set of circumstances are always gonna be miserable bastards... Kids or no kids. It has MUCH more to do with the attatude of the parents than it does the kids themselves.
 
2012-05-21 02:13:22 PM
Individuals that do not enjoy offspring fail to procreate.
Trait of not enjoying offspring is only spread regressively.
Darwin 101.
 
2012-05-21 02:14:00 PM
Gig103: "it sounds like they focused on a bunch of 30-something couples with money and careers, in order to get their study to come out the way they wanted"

If 30-something couples with money, careers and children are happier than 30-something couples with money, careers and no children, I think they still make a valid point.
Not everything has to be universal to be true. Most true things aren't.
 
2012-05-21 02:14:02 PM

Gig103: kid_icarus: Older and married parents tend to be the happiest. "Our findings suggest that if you are older (and presumably more mature) and if you are married (and presumably have more social and financial support), then you're likely to be happier if you have children than your childless peers," Lyubomirsky said. "This is not true, however, for single parents or very young parents."

Which, from my experience, makes up *most* parents I know. And broke...they forgot to add the poverty factor in there.

Yeah, it sounds like they focused on a bunch of 30-something couples with money and careers, in order to get their study to come out the way they wanted. And that demographic is also more likely to be a couple that planned their kids which means they were ready and willing for parenthood.


I'm a parent and I am happier now than I was prior to being a parent. The wife and I fall into the catagory that you describe. We wanted to have children and we planned and prepared to have them. We are in our 30's with money and careers.

If you don't want kids, they won't make you happy.

If you can't afford kids, they won't make you happy.

If you don't have anyone to help you take care of them, they won't make you happy.

Don't have kids because you mom is pressuring you or you're jealous of your sister. They won't make you happy.
 
2012-05-21 02:14:02 PM

sn82: You had me up until the Honda part. Oh well.


Are you dissing my orange box, sir?

fc06.deviantart.net

/also paid cash for my laptop
//hope to pay off my federal student loans this year
 
2012-05-21 02:14:29 PM
I have heard this phrase in various forms from single moms on several occasions: "It's nice to talk to an adult."
 
2012-05-21 02:14:38 PM
images.wikia.com

To hell with kids - I want a bunch of THESE
 
2012-05-21 02:16:54 PM
Things I learned today: All single Farkers are amazingly successful, ecstatically happy and only take time off from farking a different girl every night to count the money they've wallpapered their houses with.
 
2012-05-21 02:17:15 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: [...] If they weren't, there would be more baby skulls dashed upon rocks during about the third or so week of having to wake up every few hours to tend to the little buggers. [...]


Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones. -Psalm 137:9 KJV
 
2012-05-21 02:17:32 PM

Ringshadow: sn82: You had me up until the Honda part. Oh well.

Are you dissing my orange box, sir?



/also paid cash for my laptop
//hope to pay off my federal student loans this year


Oh, well in that case... Can I buy you a beer or a pretzel?
 
2012-05-21 02:18:23 PM

vartian: I don't care if I'd be blissful, those kids wouldn't be. I'll be a fantastic uncle but a shiat dad, and I am well aware of it.


Yeah I would suck as a dad but as an uncle I rock!! Fill em full of sugar and send em home is my motto. I get to buy them the noisey things their parents wont.
 
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