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(ABC)   ABC News, which totally isn't trolling, asks: "Should Zimmerman charges be dropped?"   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 768
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2012-05-21 09:12:29 AM
Is Trayvon Martin still dead?
Yes?
Then no. No dropped charges.
 
2012-05-21 09:16:13 AM
Should any editor who makes a headline in the form of a question be impaled with a pine cone?

I'm just asking questions
 
2012-05-21 09:21:44 AM
it's that darned liberal media again!

RminusQ: Should any editor who makes a headline in the form of a question be impaled with a pine cone?


and this.

it's cheap farking "weasel words" perfected early on by fox. it's NOT journalism.
 
2012-05-21 09:29:42 AM
Prosecutor is/was a moron for going for 2nd degree.
 
2012-05-21 09:51:32 AM
Question mark in the headline...
Some people say...
Experts claim...
Some are questioning...
Gratuitous use of ellipses...
 
2012-05-21 09:56:32 AM
Meh.
 
2012-05-21 10:22:07 AM
This should be a fun thread.
 
2012-05-21 10:22:54 AM
Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.
 
2012-05-21 10:27:15 AM
Seeing as how the prosecutor's case looks to be falling apart, asking whether charges should be dropped sounds like a legitimate question. Charges were brought in the first place because of public pressure coming from an uninformed public. Now that the public is better informed, public opinion has reversed. They should probably think about dropping all charges.
 
2012-05-21 10:32:27 AM
"We don't prosecute by public pressure or petition."

said Florida DA Angela Corey, right before prosecuting a case by public pressure and petition.
 
2012-05-21 11:04:53 AM

FloydA: Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.


Was Martin acting in self-defense when he had Zimmerman on the ground and was beating his face in?
 
2012-05-21 11:10:47 AM

SkinnyHead: Seeing as how the prosecutor's case looks to be falling apart, asking whether charges should be dropped sounds like a legitimate question. Charges were brought in the first place because of public pressure coming from an uninformed public. Now that the public is better informed, public opinion has reversed. They should probably think about dropping all charges.


So public opinion brought Martin back from the dead?? Damn, I didn't know public opinion was so.... wait, what? He's still dead? Then why would charges be dropped?

The hilarious part is that, by following Martin and aggressivly pursuing him, Martin was actually following the "stand your ground" law by punching Zimmerman. The threat to safety was made when Zimmerman got out of his car and followed him.
 
2012-05-21 11:11:31 AM

CruiserTwelve: FloydA: Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.

Was Martin acting in self-defense when he had Zimmerman on the ground and was beating his face in?


Yes. According to Florida's laws, yes.
 
2012-05-21 11:15:29 AM

CruiserTwelve: FloydA: Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.

Was Martin acting in self-defense when he had Zimmerman on the ground and was beating his face in?


Yes. If someone chases you down the street and accosts you, then according to Florida law, you have a right to defend yourself. Zimmerman pursued Martin and confronted him, with hostile intent (as is evident from the 9-1-1 calls), so Martin was acting in self-defense.
 
2012-05-21 11:18:07 AM
No, waiting for him to be found not guilty is the only way to make sure we get race riots in Florida this summer.
 
2012-05-21 11:18:20 AM
God bless you George Zimmerman, America's Watch Colonel!
 
2012-05-21 11:18:41 AM

SilentStrider: Is Trayvon Martin still dead?
Yes?
Then no. No dropped charges.


This.

Nothing else needs to be discussed, Weeners summed up everything that needs to be said on this topic.
 
2012-05-21 11:18:45 AM
With Zimmerman's injuries and the witness testimony that Martin was on top of Zimmerman he will never be convicted of any crime.
 
2012-05-21 11:18:56 AM
>Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation.

Good thing he called 911 first.

Every time I stalk and murder someone for fun, I like to call 911 so the cops have a recording of it.
 
2012-05-21 11:19:41 AM
To be fair there are a lot of legal beagles pondering the same after the latest information release.
 
2012-05-21 11:20:20 AM

CruiserTwelve: FloydA: Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.

Was Martin acting in self-defense when he had Zimmerman on the ground and was beating his face in?



When a cop does it, it is.

/stop resisting
 
2012-05-21 11:20:38 AM
Maybe before we all make decisions one who-is-guilty-of-what, maybe we should all see the evidence.
 
2012-05-21 11:21:32 AM
I simply have just never understood all the Zimmerman hate... Personally, I've enjoyed shopping at the Men's Warehouse and he DOES guarantee I'm going to like the way I look...
 
2012-05-21 11:21:52 AM

CPT Ethanolic: Prosecutor is/was a moron for going for 2nd degree.


Agreed. should have been a manslaughter charge.
 
2012-05-21 11:22:18 AM

CPT Ethanolic: Prosecutor is/was a moron for going for 2nd degree.


Looks pretty clear to me that this is manslaughter. Dunno why she went for murder 2.

No, the case should not be dropped. If the judge wants to dismiss it, I'm cool with that.
 
2012-05-21 11:22:19 AM
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2012-05-21 11:22:33 AM

FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.


Yes, if you leave your car you deserve to be knocked to the ground and pummeled MMA style.
 
2012-05-21 11:22:38 AM
When the headline asks a question, the answer is usually "No."
 
2012-05-21 11:22:58 AM
"There is no second-degree murder evidence in this case," Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said. "It's a very close case."


Remember, when a lawyer discusses the merits of a case he is not discussing right vs wrong nor is he discussing truth vs illusion or even justice. He is discussing the merits of a court trial and whether it will succeed or fail.
 
2012-05-21 11:23:15 AM

adamgreeney:

The hilarious part is that, by following Martin and aggressivly pursuing him, Martin was actually following the "stand your ground" law by punching Zimmerman. The threat to safety was made when Zimmerman got out of his car and followed him.



Internet 1Ls are amusing.

Following a person is not a hostile act that can be responded to with force. Try it sometime, the police won't be amused.
 
2012-05-21 11:23:37 AM
Is this the thread where the white people defend the killing of an unarmed kid using thinly veiled racism as their justification? Sweet.
 
2012-05-21 11:23:48 AM

FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.




None of the above is a criminal act nor is any of the above a legal reason to attack someone.
 
2012-05-21 11:23:48 AM
You do not get to claim self defense if you provoke the confrontation. Martin was the only one who had the right to stand his ground which he did by attacking the guy stalking him
 
2012-05-21 11:24:05 AM

spawn73: FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.

Yes, if you leave your car you deserve to be knocked to the ground and pummeled MMA style.


He accosted and then shot a fourteen year old. I don't care if the kid fought back, he's scum.
 
2012-05-21 11:24:08 AM

spawn73: Yes, if you leave your car you deserve to be knocked to the ground and pummeled MMA style.


Yea, that's all he did. Got out of his car. He didn't stalk anyone or anything like that.
 
2012-05-21 11:24:21 AM

CPT Ethanolic: Prosecutor is/was a moron for going for 2nd degree.


Knowing what I know, I would definitely be leaning towards stalking and involuntary manslaughter. I'm starting to believe the shooting itself was accidental but we need to get it into these dumbasses heads that you don't confront in these situations. Stay away and let the real cops handle it, self defense is only for situations where you can't stay away.
 
2012-05-21 11:24:47 AM
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2012-05-21 11:24:49 AM
That is one life-threatening cut on the back of that guy's head. If he had hair it would've totally messed up his 'do, possibly ruined any hat he might have been wearing.
 
2012-05-21 11:25:37 AM
It's going to be hilarious when Zimmerman is cleared. They have nothing on him and everything against Trayvon.

Enjoy another 800 reply Zimmartin thread.
 
2012-05-21 11:25:53 AM

Pantubo: >Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation.

Good thing he called 911 first.

Every time I stalk and murder someone for fun, I like to call 911 so the cops have a recording of it.


heh!
 
2012-05-21 11:25:54 AM

FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.


Martin turned and attacked Zimmerman, he did not have to.
 
2012-05-21 11:26:02 AM

FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.


Bullshiate.

Have you forgotten about Dede's claims that she begged Martin not to confront Zimmerman for following him? The Z-man was tailing the guy, but by his girlfriend's own admission, it was Martin who started the actual confrontation.
 
2012-05-21 11:26:08 AM

Rich Cream: spawn73: Yes, if you leave your car you deserve to be knocked to the ground and pummeled MMA style.

Yea, that's all he did. Got out of his car. He didn't stalk anyone or anything like that.


Ah, you edited away what I was quoting as to put words in my mouth.

fark you. :)
 
2012-05-21 11:26:15 AM

Warlordtrooper: You do not get to claim self defense if you provoke the confrontation. Martin was the only one who had the right to stand his ground which he did by attacking the guy stalking him


What? You have the right to stand your ground when you are trespassing in a gated community?

/I love fark lawyers!
 
2012-05-21 11:26:33 AM

smoky2010: Maybe before we all make decisions one who-is-guilty-of-what, maybe we should all see the evidence.


Most people have already made up their minds. I must admit, I at first thought it was a case of "death by Mall Ninja".

Now I see it as a case of suicide by testosterone poisoning.
 
2012-05-21 11:26:45 AM

PonceAlyosha: spawn73: FloydA: Zimmerman followed Martin down the street. He did not have to.
Zimmerman got out of his vehicle. He was asked not to by the 911 dispatcher.
Zimmerman confronted Martin, rather than observing him while awaiting the Police. He did not have to.

Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense. He started the confrontation. Had he stayed in his vehicle, Martin would still be alive. Dershowitz is full of s**t.

Yes, if you leave your car you deserve to be knocked to the ground and pummeled MMA style.

He accosted and then shot a fourteen year old. I don't care if the kid fought back, he's scum.


17 yo. Though a lot of times (myself included) a 14 yo can be pretty damn dangerous to regular sized man, much less a midget like Zimmerman.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:00 AM
I have the curious question because I genuinely do not know this information but does the standing of the ground of you law in Florida require a death? If this answer to this is that it does not then is it possible for two people to simultaneously utilize the defense of this?
 
2012-05-21 11:27:00 AM
It seems like with a Jury trial anything could happen, I would think the most likely outcome would be they can't come to an agreement.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:02 AM

PonceAlyosha: He accosted and then shot a fourteen year old. I don't care if the kid fought back, he's scum.


He was 17.
 
2012-05-21 11:27:37 AM
Hobodeluxe:

What evidence do you have to support your theory? Were you there? Do you take everything that people tell you as gold? If that the case then Zimmerman is a "White Hispanic".
 
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