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(UPI)   Ever since Gingrich and Santorum dropped out, the media consensus has been that the GOP nominating race is over. Minnesota delegates would like a word with Mr. Consensus   (upi.com) divider line 96
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2012-05-21 08:36:12 AM
I don't get it. When West Virginia's Democrats voted against Obama (and for a convicted felon), everybody thought they were stupid or crazy.
But when Minnesota's Republicans voted against Romney (and for Ron Paul), they're heroes or something.

Who would you rather have running the country? A convicted felon, or Ron Paul? I think the right decision is obvious.
 
2012-05-21 08:43:39 AM
I would trust a convicted felon over a self-declared Libertarian who deceives the suckers that support him by staying in the Republican party and supporting typical Republican silliness (so long as it's state-imposed silliness!!).

Especially since if you pick a random convicted felon you're likely to get some low-income guy with a marijuana charge. Although honestly, a murderer or rapist leading the country would be less damaging than a Republican.
 
2012-05-21 08:50:56 AM
RALPH NADER!
 
2012-05-21 09:02:06 AM
It's over RON PAUL supporters.

Your candidate isn't going to win, and he'll eventually endorse Romney in exchange for some promise Romney has no intention to keep, or to get RAND PAUL a VP nomination.
 
2012-05-21 09:03:33 AM
Republican activist John Gilmore handed out fliers Saturday warning delegates of the "convention chaos slate," offering a list of candidates -- mostly Paul supporters -- who will "embarrass Minnesota."

Sorry, guys, you already embarrassed yourselves long before RON PAUL got into the mix.
 
2012-05-21 09:31:12 AM
Good luck with that.
 
2012-05-21 09:50:11 AM
RON PAUL is the new Mondale.
 
2012-05-21 10:01:23 AM
Man this is history in the making... if RON PAUL can secure potato delegates, who KNOWS what could happen at the convention.
 
2012-05-21 11:13:16 AM
I always like how he's all about democracy and whatnot but he's trying to get to the convention in the least democratic way possible.
 
2012-05-21 11:16:27 AM

Jackson Herring: Man this is history in the making... if RON PAUL can secure potato delegates, who KNOWS what could happen at the convention.


If we could harness the power of the combined wishful thinking of the Paulistinians, we could give OPEC a swift kick in the nuts every day until the end of time.
 
2012-05-21 11:43:55 AM
Everyone can bash on Ron Paul, but I'm looking forward to him shaking up the status quo at the convention. Makes for good entertainment.
 
2012-05-21 11:48:19 AM

slayer199: Everyone can bash on Ron Paul, but I'm looking forward to him shaking up the status quo at the convention. Makes for good entertainment.


Me, too. I wanna watch the convention burn. "CRY HAVOC, AND LET SLIP THE TARDS OF WAR!!!"
 
2012-05-21 11:48:42 AM
The Paulites are worse than Cubs fans. "This time he's really going to accomplish something!"
 
2012-05-21 11:49:35 AM

slayer199: Everyone can bash on Ron Paul, but I'm looking forward to him shaking up the status quo at the convention. Makes for good entertainment.


Yeah, it'll be great fun to watch as nothing happens at all like it hasn't happened in the past and won't happen in the future. It's gonna be amazing.
 
2012-05-21 11:49:52 AM
"We are happy that the liberty candidates have integrated with the Republican Party,"

Given the way they seem to be legislating against every minority, I think they are happy to take anyone that will support them. Sadly, most of the people that are coming to the big tent are bat sh@t crazies that are attempting (and being successful) at destroying the GOP's platform with assinine legislation. In essence they don't play well with others and for every one of these folks you attract, you push 2 people out the door.
 
2012-05-21 11:51:29 AM
So why does Minnesota hate math?
 
2012-05-21 11:51:58 AM

Jackson Herring: Man this is history in the making... if RON PAUL can secure potato delegates, who KNOWS what could happen at the convention.


Thanks for the reminder that it's lunch time!
 
2012-05-21 11:52:18 AM
so is the delegate snatching Ron Paul's actually strategy? It sounds more like he's taking credit for the actions of his rabid supporters than an actual strategy from the get-go.

Either way, I look forward to Paul's endorsement of Romney and the ensuing collective aneurysms of Paultards.
 
2012-05-21 11:52:39 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: The Paulites are worse than Cubs fans. "This time he's really going to accomplish something!"


Taking 32 of 40 delegates after the nom is "locked up" = not an accomplishment
 
2012-05-21 11:53:17 AM
They'll have to vote Romney on the first ballot at the convention. But they can muck up everything else that happens.
 
2012-05-21 11:54:18 AM

falcon176: Philip Francis Queeg: The Paulites are worse than Cubs fans. "This time he's really going to accomplish something!"

Taking 32 of 40 delegates after the nom is "locked up" = not an accomplishment


Taking an insignificant number of delegates after Romney has already become a mathematical certainty is as much an accomplishment as landing on Normandy beach in 1965.
 
2012-05-21 11:54:38 AM

Fart_Machine: So why does Minnesota hate math?


And why is it so hard to spell?

\Seriously, no one else noticed the headline?
 
2012-05-21 11:55:19 AM

Aarontology: It's over RON PAUL supporters.

Your candidate isn't going to win, and he'll eventually endorse Romney in exchange for some promise Romney has no intention to keep, or to get RAND PAUL a VP nomination.


Rand seems like a good liberty choice...especially based on what he had to say in that "Atlas Shrugged" book he wrote.
 
2012-05-21 11:55:30 AM
That would be far more interesting had Ron Paul not also dropped out of the race.
 
2012-05-21 11:56:40 AM

falcon176: Philip Francis Queeg: The Paulites are worse than Cubs fans. "This time he's really going to accomplish something!"

Taking 32 of 40 delegates after the nom is "locked up" = not an accomplishment


No, it really isn't.
 
2012-05-21 11:57:13 AM

RexTalionis: I always like how he's all about democracy and whatnot but he's trying to get to the convention in the least democratic way possible.


Technically a political party isn't a democracy. Its a private club, sorta like the Boy Scouts. And you know if you want to become the Boy Scout den leader you gotta be willing to play dirty.
 
2012-05-21 11:57:25 AM

Aarontology: It's over RON PAUL supporters..


Interesting fact that I did not know until recently. The Republican Presedential nominee does not get to choose what policies he advocates for his election. Instead the party's election platform is chosen by the convention, and then the nominee has to support that platform.

GOLD STANDARD and repeal of the EPA for EVERYONE.
 
2012-05-21 11:58:10 AM

serial_crusher: Who would you rather have running the country? A convicted felon, or Ron Paul?


I have no idea how to answer this question.
 
2012-05-21 12:01:27 PM
This can only end in mass suicide.
 
2012-05-21 12:08:18 PM
Is it fair to say that this is the equivalent of the running back who spikes the football and does a dance when he scores a touchdown to make the score 70-7?
 
2012-05-21 12:09:40 PM
This is a very interesting read: Fear and loathing at the state GOP convention.
 
2012-05-21 12:10:49 PM
From the Comments:
People who call him a loser, kooky or weirdo are really stupid. Sit the hell down. You all should know no matter what you never give up and he isnt. Its not over yet its the 7th inning stretch and we plan on winning it.

It's the seventh inning stretch and your team is only down 991-107. You can totally still win this!
 
2012-05-21 12:11:02 PM

RexTalionis: I always like how he's all about democracy and whatnot


wut?

Libertarianism is not "all about democracy."
 
2012-05-21 12:12:53 PM

Danack: Aarontology: It's over RON PAUL supporters..

Interesting fact that I did not know until recently. The Republican Presedential nominee does not get to choose what policies he advocates for his election. Instead the party's election platform is chosen by the convention, and then the nominee has to support that platform.

GOLD STANDARD and repeal of the EPA for EVERYONE.


You didn't figure that one out from listening to Romney? He can contridict himself in the same sentance without noticing it.
 
2012-05-21 12:13:29 PM

thurstonxhowell: slayer199: Everyone can bash on Ron Paul, but I'm looking forward to him shaking up the status quo at the convention. Makes for good entertainment.

Yeah, it'll be great fun to watch as nothing happens at all like it hasn't happened in the past and won't happen in the future. It's gonna be amazing.


You mean there won't be a bigger riot inside the convention hall than outside?
I was really hoping the Paulites would get together and try to shout down Mittens the way they shouted down his cyborg-clone.
 
2012-05-21 12:14:21 PM
Folks, you are missing the point. The most important decision the delegates make is who the nomination is, but that is by no means the total work of the convention.

Rules changes, platform changes, there are a lot of things done by those who show up, and Ron Paul is gathering a lot of seats at the table. We don't know if those people are going to be savvy in the ways of parliamentary procedure, but if no one is paying attention we could have a very boring convention that has a very long term effect on the party.

/not a Ron Paul fan
 
2012-05-21 12:14:34 PM

Jackson Herring: Man this is history in the making... if RON PAUL can secure potato delegates, who KNOWS what could happen at the convention.


RON PAUL got his ass kicked in Idaho so no potato delegates for him
 
2012-05-21 12:16:38 PM

WhoIsWillo: serial_crusher: Who would you rather have running the country? A convicted felon, or Ron Paul?

I have no idea how to answer this question.


KenyanSocialistinbedwithwallstreetemptysuitgreatestmonsterbama
 
2012-05-21 12:17:29 PM

Name_Omitted: Folks, you are missing the point. The most important decision the delegates make is who the nomination is, but that is by no means the total work of the convention.

Rules changes, platform changes, there are a lot of things done by those who show up, and Ron Paul is gathering a lot of seats at the table. We don't know if those people are going to be savvy in the ways of parliamentary procedure, but if no one is paying attention we could have a very boring convention that has a very long term effect on the party.

/not a Ron Paul fan


There is no chance of the Paulites being allowed to make substantive changes to the platform. None.
 
2012-05-21 12:19:49 PM
i49.tinypic.com

RONPAUL!
 
2012-05-21 12:20:55 PM

Markus5: This is a very interesting read: Fear and loathing at the state GOP convention.


Some clever bits:

Bring them all together [Paulites and old-line GOPers], and you have a powerful s**tlist of items that make them flaming mad: President Obama, Obamacare, the Federal Reserve, bank bailouts, Keynesian economics, taxes, kowtowing to foreign leaders, the federal deficit, the state deficit, Amy Klobuchar, Gov. Mark Dayton ("governor goofy eyes," one speaker called him), Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, voter fraud, environmental regulation, financial regulation, food and drug regulation, wars, same-sex marriage, abortion, cap and trade, the federal bureaucracy ( particularly the Department of Education), government welfare and the possibility that the United States is just another country and not "exceptional."

After seemingly endless calls for clarification and information, delegates sat down to cast their ballots. Some of the juicier proposals: repeal Minnesota's Clean Water, Land and Legacy Amendment and the state's Next Generation Energy Act of 2007; phase out Social Security; get rid of the Federal Reserve; reject the Keynesian model of economics as the basis for federal policy (which, let me tell you as a long-time financial reporter, is a lot like rejecting gravity); repeal the Affordable Care Act; establish statewide testing of students' academic skills but keep local control over core curricula; restore states' rights under the Constitution and so on.

Just how had the government impinged on their lives? I asked. She paused, unable to give me an example.

Immediately, the group voted down [plank] number 21, which proposed inspecting and licensing abortion facilities. Even though one delegate asserted that such legislation would reduce the number of procedures, it was voted down. Two forces united to defeat it: those who believe abortion should be eliminated altogether and those who believe that the government shouldn't interfere.

Similarly, another plank advocating "traditional marriage" was voted down by a combination those who thought the government shouldn't mess with marriage and those who thought the plank should more explicitly bar same-sex marriage. Were the more hippie-like Ron Paul elements combining in an odd way with the faith-and-values voters to create a kind of wash? Dare we think, a more moderate platform. Nah, delegates were still planning to ditch Social Security.
 
2012-05-21 12:27:37 PM

Devo: [i49.tinypic.com image 398x450]

RONPAUL!


You glorious bastard, I was just about to do this.
 
2012-05-21 12:33:06 PM
Ron Paul will never be President. Libertarianism is based on the concept that people will behave in an unrealistically logical way, with no one out to rob anyone. It fails for the same reason Communism does: it fails to take human nature into account. Taxes are necessary. Government is necessary. Hell, the Internet was invented by the government, to be a computer network that would still function in the event of getting hit by a nuke or two. I dare anyone to mention a single Libertarian concept that actually worked in the real world (if the 1% were the only ones who benefited from it, it doesn't f*cking count and you know it).
 
2012-05-21 12:33:35 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: The Paulites are worse than Cubs fans. "This time he's really going to accomplish something!"


Even Linux users realize this isn't the year of the desktop.
 
2012-05-21 12:38:26 PM
I really hope that the RNC does not waste its opportunity to set the world record for largest Mexican standoff. Go 2nd Amendment!
 
2012-05-21 12:51:53 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: I would trust a convicted felon over a self-declared Libertarian who deceives the suckers that support him by staying in the Republican party and supporting typical Republican silliness (so long as it's state-imposed silliness!!).

Especially since if you pick a random convicted felon you're likely to get some low-income guy with a marijuana charge. Although honestly, a murderer or rapist leading the country would be less damaging than a Republican.


So vote Glenn Beck.
 
2012-05-21 12:52:14 PM

HotWingConspiracy: This can only end in mass suicide.


And that would be terrible.
 
2012-05-21 12:53:19 PM
I think it's hilarious that this comment:

BKITU: If we could harness the power of the combined wishful thinking of the Paulistinians, we could give OPEC a swift kick in the nuts every day until the end of time.

was followed immediately by this one:

slayer199: Everyone can bash on Ron Paul, but I'm looking forward to him shaking up the status quo at the convention. Makes for good entertainment.


 
2012-05-21 01:02:11 PM

Lost Thought 00: That would be far more interesting had Ron Paul not also dropped out of the race.


It will be far more interesting if he keeps picking up states while not even running...
 
2012-05-21 01:09:25 PM

serial_crusher: Who would you rather have running the country? A convicted felon, or Ron Paul? I think the right decision is obvious.


It depends: did he commit a sexy felony? Or was he an inside trader or tax evader?
 
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