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(The New York Times)   Hey Obama, stop being so condescending to women   (nytimes.com) divider line 238
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2012-05-21 08:23:52 AM
So if she finds this condescending then what will her view be if the GOP wins the White House?
 
2012-05-21 08:32:35 AM
(I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Oh... I see.
 
2012-05-21 08:34:26 AM
The concern is literally palpable. Like, I can taste it.
 
2012-05-21 08:34:45 AM
Truly, by praising the accomplishments of women instead of trying to limit their access to health care and role in public service, he is history's greatest monster...
 
2012-05-21 08:35:21 AM
The author's next column: Obama, stop being so darn Mormon!
 
2012-05-21 08:37:40 AM
*headdesk*
 
2012-05-21 08:41:13 AM

James!: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Oh... I see.


Well, thanks for saving me the click.
 
2012-05-21 08:42:31 AM
"Condescending" is dog whistle for "how dare you make an intellectual argument. I know better because I just know, OK?"
 
2012-05-21 08:45:28 AM

dogdaze: "Condescending" is dog whistle for "how dare you make an intellectual argument. I know better because I just know, OK?"


Aren't 'dog whistles' supposed to be at least slightly non-obvious?
 
2012-05-21 08:49:47 AM
Obama is condescending to women, therefore vote for the party that wants to shove a misshapen wand into your pussy if you want an abortion.

Brilliant.
 
2012-05-21 08:52:43 AM
Wow he sounds paternalistic.

Obama, stop sounding paternalistic to Campbell Brown!
 
2012-05-21 08:53:58 AM
I worked at a grocery store deli once and the assistant manager wrote me up for 'always talking down' to my female coworkers. She said she was issuing this warning because I was always using "them fifty cent words" to make them feel stupid. I said "I apologize, I didn't realize I was being condescending." and she said "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" and changed the warning to an actual disciplinary action in my file.

I don't know if it is the same thing here or not - if she's just a partisan tool, or if she's really feeling like anyone with a polysyllabic vocabulary is somehow flaunting a superiority, and that Obama's really singling out women for this particular style of condescension... but it makes her sound just like my asst manager way back when.

James!: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)


Oh. She is both an idiot and a tool. Got it.
 
2012-05-21 08:55:18 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: Obama is condescending to women, therefore vote for the party that wants to shove a misshapen wand into your pussy if you want an abortion.


This isn't some partisan hack piece. She just wants you know that the Democrats aren't the saviors of women that they make themselves out to be. Sure, one side wants to limit access to birth control and spark a debate that hasn't been since the 1950s....but the other side wants to treat you condescendingly.

She just wants everyone to know that both sides are bad
 
2012-05-21 08:58:16 AM

unlikely: I worked at a grocery store deli once and the assistant manager wrote me up for 'always talking down' to my female coworkers. She said she was issuing this warning because I was always using "them fifty cent words" to make them feel stupid. I said "I apologize, I didn't realize I was being condescending." and she said "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" and changed the warning to an actual disciplinary action in my file.


I would have spoken to the manager about the absurdity of the situation and how ill defined the infraction is.
 
2012-05-21 09:01:59 AM
Because a Congressional Committee on women's health issues that didn't have a single woman on it wasn't paternalistic...
 
2012-05-21 09:03:57 AM

Aar1012: unlikely: I worked at a grocery store deli once and the assistant manager wrote me up for 'always talking down' to my female coworkers. She said she was issuing this warning because I was always using "them fifty cent words" to make them feel stupid. I said "I apologize, I didn't realize I was being condescending." and she said "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" and changed the warning to an actual disciplinary action in my file.

I would have spoken to the manager about the absurdity of the situation and how ill defined the infraction is.


If I was that manager you would have gotten two more write-ups based on your post just now.
 
2012-05-21 09:04:32 AM
And if anybody knows about how to condescend, it's a former CNN host.
 
2012-05-21 09:06:42 AM

Aar1012: unlikely: I worked at a grocery store deli once and the assistant manager wrote me up for 'always talking down' to my female coworkers. She said she was issuing this warning because I was always using "them fifty cent words" to make them feel stupid. I said "I apologize, I didn't realize I was being condescending." and she said "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" and changed the warning to an actual disciplinary action in my file.

I would have spoken to the manager about the absurdity of the situation and how ill defined the infraction is.


I had a coworker who reported me to our manager for using words she didn't know in order to make her feel stupid. Our manager recommended she buy a dictionary, then told me to keep right on using whatever words I pleased.
 
2012-05-21 09:07:28 AM
(I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Yes, yes.

One group is fighting against abortion, working towards removing social safety nets important to single mothers, and using any means necessary to remove funding from organizations designed to care for women.

The other group? Led by a guy that, I think, is condescending towards women with his fake "go get 'em" speeches.

Thanks for showing concern. This monster should be stopped.
 
2012-05-21 09:08:00 AM
fta: "But to suggest to women that they deserve dominance instead of equality is at best a cheap applause line. "

Where did Obama say that? I must have missed it.
 
2012-05-21 09:08:13 AM

unlikely: I worked at a grocery store deli once and the assistant manager wrote me up for 'always talking down' to my female coworkers. She said she was issuing this warning because I was always using "them fifty cent words" to make them feel stupid. I said "I apologize, I didn't realize I was being condescending." and she said "THERE YOU GO AGAIN!" and changed the warning to an actual disciplinary action in my file.


And if you had stopped talking to females altogether in hopes of avoiding the situation, more discipline for perceived sleights. Jobs are awesome.
 
2012-05-21 09:08:27 AM
Wow. That's just weapons-grade stupid. You'd think a former CNN anchor would be smarter ... oh. What the hell am I saying.
 
2012-05-21 09:08:49 AM

Aar1012: I would have spoken to the manager about the absurdity of the situation and how ill defined the infraction is.


She agreed with her assistant. I took that to the store manager who explained that the deli had a review procedure in place and I had to go first through my deli manager and then my union rep. My union rep went to talk to my deli manager and the situation was supposedly removed from my file. I got a job as security for those order-them-to-your-party strippers and quit the deli a week later anyway.
 
2012-05-21 09:08:50 AM

GoodyearPimp: sleights


slights. I even looked it up but forgot to correct it.
 
2012-05-21 09:09:37 AM
She's obviously racist because she's criticizing the President. Doesn't she know she can get arrested for that?
 
2012-05-21 09:10:09 AM
Campbell, solar eclipses can be viewed for a longer period of time than was your CNN show. Tell us again how you've got nothing, no, please, please, I need a laugh.
 
2012-05-21 09:10:20 AM
FTFA: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

[facepalm.jpg]

So, what's her Fark account and what are her troll alts?
 
2012-05-21 09:10:24 AM
Great article! The author also should have pointed out that in addition to not being 0bama, the republican party also hopes all the broads in the US will get their split tails behind them in November and show America that dames truly want to be apart of this great nation. Until they vote. Then they can STFU and go back to doing whatever it is they do.
 
2012-05-21 09:10:39 AM

Aar1012: Sock Ruh Tease: Obama is condescending to women, therefore vote for the party that wants to shove a misshapen wand into your pussy if you want an abortion.

This isn't some partisan hack piece. She just wants you know that the Democrats aren't the saviors of women that they make themselves out to be. Sure, one side wants to limit access to birth control and spark a debate that hasn't been since the 1950s....but the other side wants to treat you condescendingly.

She just wants everyone to know that both sides are bad


It's just that Republicans REALLY know what women want: tax cuts and deregulation of everything but uterii and hormone levels.

That was really Campbell Brown's argument. Women aren't swayed by the "keep your laws out of my vagina" argument; they want GOP solutions to the economy! Except that women don't like the GOP's answers there, either. But they would, if the GOP had any good ones, Campbell Brown is sure of it!
 
2012-05-21 09:12:05 AM

James!: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Oh... I see.


It gets better! The VERY next sentence was "The struggling women in my life all laughed when I asked them if contraception or abortion rights would be a major factor in their decision about this election. For them, and for most other women, the economy overwhelms everything else."

So she claims to be unaffiliated with the Romney campaign, then turns around and repeats one of Romney's favorite talking points. I get it, she's "independent."
 
2012-05-21 09:12:05 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: FTFA: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

[facepalm.jpg]

So, what's her Fark account and what are her troll alts?


Hey, if Justice Thomas can be an impartial justice given his wife's profession...

(pause for laughter)

#PubesForJustice
 
2012-05-21 09:12:17 AM
The struggling women in my life all laughed when I asked them if contraception or abortion rights would be a major factor in their decision about this election. For them, and for most other women, the economy overwhelms everything else.

Isn't that like, condescending?

Another recent Pew Research Center survey found that voters, when thinking about whom to vote for in the fall, are most concerned about the economy (86 percent) and jobs (84 percent). Near the bottom of the list were some of the hot-button social issues.

Shame that political marketing firms know this is bullshiat. Yes, people will tell you this in a poll, but they are undeniably swayed by demagoguing social issues.
 
2012-05-21 09:13:57 AM
I wonder if Campbell ran this piece by her husband for approval before submitting it.
 
2012-05-21 09:15:13 AM
Let's see, a man who praises women and signs legislation to correct gender-based pay disparities is condescending. The man who represents the Republican part is not condescending to women, despite all the anti-women legislation being introduced.

Yep. It's opposite world.
 
2012-05-21 09:15:24 AM

HMS_Blinkin: So she claims to be unaffiliated with the Romney campaign, then turns around and repeats one of Romney's favorite talking points. I get it, she's "independent."


She's independent. Willful. She's got a lot of sass for a dame, just ask her husband.
 
2012-05-21 09:15:49 AM
If you google her name it says she is the wife of a top Romney adviser, I wonder if that has any sway on her opinion about Obama...
 
2012-05-21 09:17:39 AM
How dare somebody suggest that the belief one can't take care of themselves is condescending. Choices are hard, we NEED the government to make them for us. Sure the government is only bribing us with our own money, but they make such better decisions than us! Thank god we have a paternalistic government with us every step of the way.
 
2012-05-21 09:18:13 AM

Headso: If you google her name it says she is the wife of a top Romney adviser, I wonder if that has any sway on her opinion about Obama...


But she's an independent! She just wants to point out that both sides are bad
 
2012-05-21 09:19:45 AM

MyRandomName: How dare somebody suggest that the belief one can't take care of themselves is condescending. Choices are hard, we NEED the government to make them for us. Sure the government is only bribing us with our own money, but they make such better decisions than us! Thank god we have a paternalistic government with us every step of the way.


0/10. You realize Mitt Romney and all the GOPers do the same thing with your penis / vagina / uterus, right? So, thank you for your concern (trolling).
 
2012-05-21 09:19:58 AM
(I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Uh huh...
 
2012-05-21 09:20:28 AM

James!: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Oh... I see.


Yeah, I figured something was up when she immediately switched to talking about how bad the economy is.
 
2012-05-21 09:20:42 AM

Aar1012: Headso: If you google her name it says she is the wife of a top Romney adviser, I wonder if that has any sway on her opinion about Obama...

But she's an independent! She just wants to point out that both sides are bad


I don't think Obama could have said "hello" without her thinking it was condescending.
 
2012-05-21 09:22:09 AM
Campbell Brown is a former news anchor for CNN and NBC.

Gotta respect the opinion of someone who lists what they used to be in an attempt to make themselves currently relevant.

Oh wait... no I don't.
 
2012-05-21 09:22:13 AM

MyRandomName: How dare somebody suggest that the belief one can't take care of themselves is condescending. Choices are hard, we NEED the government to make them for us. Sure the government is only bribing us with our own money, but they make such better decisions than us! Thank god we have a paternalistic government with us every step of the way.


Thank God we have the Republicans to stand up for the principal that the people can be trusted to make decisions for themselves. They know the government has no part in decisions like marrying your same sex partner and whether or not to have an abortion.
 
2012-05-21 09:22:21 AM

FlameDuck: Aar1012: Headso: If you google her name it says she is the wife of a top Romney adviser, I wonder if that has any sway on her opinion about Obama...

But she's an independent! She just wants to point out that both sides are bad

I don't think Obama could have said "hello" without her thinking it was condescending.


Of course, I mean why 'Hello'? Why not just 'hi'...like every other American would say. He would just use that long form so that he could hear the sound of his own voice.
 
2012-05-21 09:23:01 AM
Um the author is butthurt because the President spoke at a women's college and said positive things about women? WTF is wrong with this guy?
 
2012-05-21 09:23:19 AM

James!: (I should disclose here that my husband is an adviser to Mr. Romney; I have no involvement with any campaign, and have been an independent journalist throughout my career.)

Oh... I see.


Wife-Like Campaigning Detected
 
2012-05-21 09:23:38 AM
So, pandering is bad, vote Romney?
 
2012-05-21 09:24:17 AM
FTA: "Family, not government, has been everything to her at this time of crisis. She, and they, wouldn't have it any other way. "

It's a good thing everyone has access to family that can provide enough to meet their basic needs during times of crisis. Why, it really just makes the social safety net redundant.
 
2012-05-21 09:24:41 AM
Thanks for writing that, it was adorable, toots.
 
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