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2012-05-21 08:17:29 AM  
Intelligent people reflect on their opinions and actions and express disagreement, dissatisfaction, and change their behaviors as appropriate.

Others call it flip flopping.
 
2012-05-21 08:23:36 AM  
They'll just deny there;s any truth to the article
 
2012-05-21 09:54:06 AM  
Why is Jim Lee wasting time writing articles when he as like four comics due next month?
 
2012-05-21 09:57:21 AM  
Shorter article: BSAB but Republicans are jerks about it.
 
2012-05-21 10:01:43 AM  
What's up with that guy's headshot? is he writing from purgatory?
 
2012-05-21 10:02:07 AM  
Comments have been disabled.

I can't imagine why.
 
2012-05-21 10:04:21 AM  
Republicans have always been greedy for power, but since the impeachment of Clinton they have been totally drunk with and for power. Whether or not their fevered brains recognize there has to be an end to it all they are determined to thrust as much of their ideology on everyone else as they possibly can. They ignore any possibility of damage they are doing because deep down, they think someone smarter then themselves down the road will figure it out and save the situation. That's what has always happened in the past, hasn't it?
 
2012-05-21 10:05:23 AM  
a) He makes excellent points
b) His hair is green

Someone needs to step away from the iPhoto.
 
2012-05-21 10:06:35 AM  
unpossible
 
2012-05-21 10:07:04 AM  
Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.
 
2012-05-21 10:10:49 AM  

AntiNerd: They ignore any possibility of damage they are doing because deep down, they think someone smarter then themselves down the road will figure it out and save the situation.


I don't think they think that; I think they think they're in an apocalyptic battle for the heart and soul of America (and by extension, humanity). Once you look at things in those terms, any and all measures are acceptable. It doesn't matter if it's not good for the country - there will be no country if they don't win.
 
2012-05-21 10:11:37 AM  
FTFA: "Democrats, however, recognize when their folks are [engaging in questionable behavior]. They may not actively publicize it, but they are far less likely to point fingers at the Republicans, try to shift blame or try to ignore the wrongdoing in their own party than the Republicans when they are in a similar situation."

That's because Democrats more often recognize that people who support very similar aims can have different views of achieving those aims, but Republicans more often simply call people who deviate from orthodoxy RINOs and excommunicate them from the tribe (Bruce Bartlett and David Frum among many others).
 
2012-05-21 10:14:53 AM  
No. It's not.
 
2012-05-21 10:17:12 AM  
FTFA My own personal political beliefs put me squarely in the 80 percent of the general population who see good and bad in both parties. Yet without fail, whenever I write about something bad that the Republicans are doing, I get hate mail from the far right that most often is filled with rude, offensive comments and ripping into me for being liberal.

These same folks are eerily silent when I write columns highlighting bad things the Democrats are doing, but the difference is that I don't get hate mail from Democrats calling me an out-of-touch conservative with no clue about the evil Republicans.


Jim Lee, librul mainstream MSM media stooge that he is, clearly doesn't understand that reality has a librul bias. Because of that, stories that attack republicans are untrue, and stories that attack democrats must be extra true.
 
2012-05-21 10:21:42 AM  

Emposter: Jim Lee, librul mainstream MSM media stooge that he is, clearly doesn't understand that reality has a librul bias. Because of that, stories that attack republicans are untrue, and stories that attack democrats must be extra true.


the saddest thing is, that is probably how some of these uber-facists think in regards to this whole debacle.

I weep for this country....
 
2012-05-21 10:22:01 AM  

Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.


This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.
 
2012-05-21 10:24:22 AM  

Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.


so you think you can win an election with 300,200 voters?

does you mommy know you are on the internet again?
 
2012-05-21 10:25:36 AM  

Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.


It's enough to get them about 50% of the vote about 50% of the time, sadly.
 
2012-05-21 10:31:32 AM  
I think I found the problem.... Turns out right wing people are stupid, closed minded, and prejudge.


http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-rac i sm.html

http://www.livescience.com/17534-life-extremes-democrat-republican.ht m l

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/23/2/187

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2012/01/social-conservatives-h a ve-a-lower-i-q-probably/
 
2012-05-21 10:31:50 AM  
Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.
 
2012-05-21 10:33:18 AM  

Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.


Where do you get 200 - 300K from? There are 3.5 million members of the Southern Baptist Convention in Texas alone. And that's just one subset of a subset of a subset of subset of the Christian faith. Values voters are a pretty large voting block, and they're not exactly a group that stays home on election day.
 
2012-05-21 10:33:43 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.

so you think you can win an election with 300,200 voters?

does you mommy know you are on the internet again?


First off, .....wait

*checks fark handle*

Oh Christ, it's TenpoundsofTroll, nevemind.
 
2012-05-21 10:34:10 AM  
Why do left-leaning people who're trying to make a point about the fiscal policies of the Bush administration, particularly the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, use the term 'unfunded wars'? It's so bland and clinical. I think if the tables reversed, the GOP would do a much better job of branding those wars. Possibly calling them the "credit-card funded wars" or something that strikes more nerves. Just a thought.
 
2012-05-21 10:34:32 AM  

Emposter: Jim Lee, librul mainstream MSM media stooge that he is, clearly doesn't understand that reality has a librul bias. Because of that, stories that attack republicans are untrue, and stories that attack democrats must be extra true.


The Carroll County Times is not exactly the Washington Post here. But, wow, kudos to the local crappy paper for getting a green light on fark.
 
2012-05-21 10:35:26 AM  
TFA may or may not have some valid points, but that headline SUCKS!
 
2012-05-21 10:36:16 AM  
So, vote Democrat?
 
2012-05-21 10:42:56 AM  

Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.


Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?
 
2012-05-21 10:43:23 AM  

Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.


TFA uses facts and figures - specifically, the Bush Administration's handling of Iraq/Afghanistan and their signature-bill tax cuts "will account for almost half of the $20 trillion in debt that, under current policies, the nation will owe by 2019." and compares that to "[t]he stimulus law and financial rescues[, which] will account for less than 10 percent of the debt at that time."

So come up with a better response than "He's right!"

// unless, in a weird way, you were signalling agreement with that point
 
2012-05-21 10:47:14 AM  

oldass31: Why do left-leaning people who're trying to make a point about the fiscal policies of the Bush administration, particularly the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, use the term 'unfunded wars'? It's so bland and clinical. I think if the tables reversed, the GOP would do a much better job of branding those wars. Possibly calling them the "credit-card funded wars" or something that strikes more nerves. Just a thought.


Because "unfunded" is an accurate term and "credit-card funded wars" is hyperbole. The federal government has been borrowing money to prosecute the wars rather than fund them with revenue generating measures specifically targeted at covering the cost of the wars but that's not like they took out a $1T line of credit at 18.5%.
 
MFK
2012-05-21 10:50:32 AM  
FTFA: "Democrats and Republicans both engage in questionable behaviors. For every example a Democrat has of Republican bad behavior, there are as many examples from Republicans of bad behavior on the Democratic side"

I'm sorry, but this is just not so. There are multiple bad examples, yes, but for the last decade and a half it has not been equal.

It's sorta like this:

On one hand you have a party that punches you in the arm. That's bad. fark the Democrats for punching you in the arm.

On the other hand you have a party that punches you in the nuts, shiats in your hair, claws out your eyes before feasting on your flesh. That's also bad. fark the Republicans for doing all that.

Both sides are clearly engaging in bad behavior but there's a bit of a difference. And that nuance is obscured over and over again by these journalists who crapping their pants in fear of being accused of being in the tank for Obama. Meanwhile, the party that actually DOES have media outlets blatantly in the tank for the GOP that lies and misdirects 24/7 a day with hubris.
 
2012-05-21 10:50:33 AM  
His hair is green, your argument is irrelevant.
 
2012-05-21 10:50:37 AM  

oldass31: Why do left-leaning people who're trying to make a point about the fiscal policies of the Bush administration, particularly the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, use the term 'unfunded wars'? It's so bland and clinical. I think if the tables reversed, the GOP would do a much better job of branding those wars. Possibly calling them the "credit-card funded wars" or something that strikes more nerves. Just a thought.


How about, " financed on the backs of our grandchildren wars?"
 
2012-05-21 10:52:55 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.

so you think you can win an election with 300,200 voters?

does you mommy know you are on the internet again?


[that'sthejoke.jpg]

Right over your head. Again. Of course, considering where your head is lodged, that's not all that surprising.

img825.imageshack.us
 
2012-05-21 10:54:05 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

TFA uses facts and figures - specifically, the Bush Administration's handling of Iraq/Afghanistan and their signature-bill tax cuts "will account for almost half of the $20 trillion in debt that, under current policies, the nation will owe by 2019." and compares that to "[t]he stimulus law and financial rescues[, which] will account for less than 10 percent of the debt at that time."

So come up with a better response than "He's right!"

// unless, in a weird way, you were signalling agreement with that point


Will Bush's reign of terror never end?

i.i.com.com
 
2012-05-21 10:54:28 AM  

hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?


This. Vast quantities of this.

One of the many things Republicans seem to be in denial about is the fact that the Bush administration did some pretty hefty damage to this country, and being out of office doesn't get them a free pass for it any more than his resignation got Nixon a free pass for Watergate. Yeah, he got pardoned, but he still did it and nobody will ever try to claim otherwise.
 
2012-05-21 10:55:00 AM  
I somewhat agree but still, Your blog sucks.
 
2012-05-21 10:55:37 AM  

hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?


Obviously not! Hes a moooslumn, like the current usurper-in-office, and must be blamed for everything! A good christian White man, like our previous Messiah-in-Office, GWBblessed be his name must be forgiven for all his transgressions in harming the country, bless his heart.
 
2012-05-21 10:56:36 AM  

hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?


Well, he's dead now, and Obama killed him, so he wasn't that important.

/ Forgiven! Peace be upon him.
 
2012-05-21 10:57:07 AM  

oldass31: Why do left-leaning people who're trying to make a point about the fiscal policies of the Bush administration, particularly the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, use the term 'unfunded wars'? It's so bland and clinical. I think if the tables reversed, the GOP would do a much better job of branding those wars. Possibly calling them the "credit-card funded wars" or something that strikes more nerves. Just a thought.


Because the DNC doesn't have the balls to come out and say what needs to be said. Either that or they are completely incompetent as to how the average voter can be manipulated with buzzwords. Could be both.
 
2012-05-21 10:59:12 AM  

oldass31: Why do left-leaning people who're trying to make a point about the fiscal policies of the Bush administration, particularly the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, use the term 'unfunded wars'? It's so bland and clinical. I think if the tables reversed, the GOP would do a much better job of branding those wars. Possibly calling them the "credit-card funded wars" or something that strikes more nerves. Just a thought.


Collateralized Debt Conflagrations.

Postfunded Democracy Rollouts.

Leveraged Liberty Distributions.
 
2012-05-21 11:00:29 AM  
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2012-05-21 11:00:31 AM  

Curse of the Goth Kids: hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?

This. Vast quantities of this.

One of the many things Republicans seem to be in denial about is the fact that the Bush administration did some pretty hefty damage to this country, and being out of office doesn't get them a free pass for it any more than his resignation got Nixon a free pass for Watergate. Yeah, he got pardoned, but he still did it and nobody will ever try to claim otherwise.


Oh, the weak sauce. Then tell your Democratic white knights to throw up their hands and say the Bush mess is unfixable. We're out. Good luck.
 
2012-05-21 11:04:15 AM  

Cletus C.: Curse of the Goth Kids: hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?

This. Vast quantities of this.

One of the many things Republicans seem to be in denial about is the fact that the Bush administration did some pretty hefty damage to this country, and being out of office doesn't get them a free pass for it any more than his resignation got Nixon a free pass for Watergate. Yeah, he got pardoned, but he still did it and nobody will ever try to claim otherwise.

Oh, the weak sauce. Then tell your Democratic white knights to throw up their hands and say the Bush mess is unfixable. We're out. Good luck.


What Bush mess? Things are going exactly as Bush planned. The poor and middle class are getting poorer while the wealthiest reap ever increasing portions of the national income. This IS what the success of Republican policies looks like.
 
2012-05-21 11:04:17 AM  
simplystatedbusiness.com
 
2012-05-21 11:06:50 AM  

Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.


History will be blaming Bush until there is no more history.

Not that you will ever understand facts.
 
2012-05-21 11:06:53 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Cletus C.: Curse of the Goth Kids: hugram: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

Should we eventually stop blaming OBL for 9/11?

This. Vast quantities of this.

One of the many things Republicans seem to be in denial about is the fact that the Bush administration did some pretty hefty damage to this country, and being out of office doesn't get them a free pass for it any more than his resignation got Nixon a free pass for Watergate. Yeah, he got pardoned, but he still did it and nobody will ever try to claim otherwise.

Oh, the weak sauce. Then tell your Democratic white knights to throw up their hands and say the Bush mess is unfixable. We're out. Good luck.

What Bush mess? Things are going exactly as Bush planned. The poor and middle class are getting poorer while the wealthiest reap ever increasing portions of the national income. This IS what the success of Republican policies looks like.


And there's nothing you can do about it. Heh, heh, heh. Bush is still running the country from behind the scenes. You are powerless. Cackle.
 
2012-05-21 11:09:54 AM  

Cletus C.: threadshiat
threadshiat
threadshiat


*Sigh*

If there was ever a threadshiattter who proved the point of an article, you're it.
 
2012-05-21 11:13:15 AM  

ghare: nothing
nothing
nothing

*Sigh*


Honestly, your world feels a little masturbatory.
 
2012-05-21 11:16:12 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Bag of Hammers: Linux_Yes: Republicans aren't in denial. they are perfectly happy narcissists who's only interest is themselves and their money.

the country be damned.

This.

What they are in denial about however, is their election strategy that 200 Billionaires and 200 to 300K "values voters" (i.e: Bible Thumping Hillbillies) are enough to carry them for next 10-20 years.

so you think you can win an election with 300,200 voters?

does you mommy know you are on the internet again?


no.

but you CAN bullsh*t millions of voters with TV "news" that is owned and operated by Big business so that those voters will unwittingly vote for your snob.

its called Propaganda, and Thomas Jefferson warned us that Democracy cannot exist without a Free and Independent Press and without a literate population.

you can pull my foot out of your ass now.
 
2012-05-21 11:16:58 AM  

Cletus C.: Dr Dreidel: Cletus C.: Summary: Blame Bush.

Brilliant.

TFA uses facts and figures - specifically, the Bush Administration's handling of Iraq/Afghanistan and their signature-bill tax cuts "will account for almost half of the $20 trillion in debt that, under current policies, the nation will owe by 2019." and compares that to "[t]he stimulus law and financial rescues[, which] will account for less than 10 percent of the debt at that time."

So come up with a better response than "He's right!"

// unless, in a weird way, you were signalling agreement with that point

Will Bush's reign of terror never end?

[i.i.com.com image 620x258]


See, that's at least an attempt. You used a graph to support your point. Well done.

However:
1. You didn't explain why I was looking at that graph, you just asked a rhetorical question. A fairly silly one, because-
2. The graph doesn't say what you think it does:
2a. Year 1 on that graph is 2009, Bush's last budget year. Kind of hard to see what kind of debt he racked up if you start 7 years too late.
2b. That graph shows nothing of which president is "responsible" for how much of that increase. If Bush said in 2006 "We're gonna give $500B in benefits to seniors, but we won't start paying for it until 2011, would that $500B show up in 2006 (you know, if the first 87.5% of Bush's presidency was accounted for in that graph in the first place) or in 2011?
3. I don't know that anyone called it a "reign of terror"; TFA and I are in agreement that you attribute spending to the guy that authorized it. Is it fair to say that Bush spent over a trillion dollars on invading two countries? Is it fair to say that that trillion-plus was not paid for when it was allocated, necessitating a "line of credit"? Is it fair to say that this "line of credit" used to pay for the wars inflated their cost, making a bill we already couldn't afford that much bigger?

Do you see where we're coming from now? That if a guy ran up a tab and skipped out on it, it's not really fair to blame the guy now sitting at his table for ordering a new meal?
 
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