Nice list. Loved Frozen, great episode.

sure haven't: Nana's Vibrator: Spoilerish
Sorry if I'm not the first to ask, but why did we have to go through the entire episode and self reckoning if (it seems) he had already decided to switch dental records and be a good friend? Am I to assume he hadn't already decided until that "moment of clarity" at the end when he said he can change?

That's exactly my issue as well. Doesn't really make a lot of sense. Unless maybe when he came to at the beginning he changed his mind and temporarily decided to just kill himself?

Also, there's no conspiracy, Foreman got the ID card, it was a nice happy ending, good message at the end. I think the episode was kinda weak, took too long to get anywhere. Yet, contradictorily, I enjoyed the ending and the over arching story.

Pretty sure he snuck in and changed the records while everyone was down at the warehouse. Then he put his ID under Foreman's stand.

I thought it was an ok finale. Seeing houses funeral should have taken a lot longer. As soon as they were breezing through it I was like "son of a biatch he is alive". I know, I know, I should have realized it sooner, but I thought that Cameron actually succeeded in murdering him.

There really are only two better ways the finale could have possibly gone other than "fake death to hang out with Wilson". 1. House gets a crazy disease that puts him in a coma and his team can't figure it out in time to save him or 2. House suicides because Wilson is dead. Granted each of these would have taken a few episodes to get into, say:

1. House gets the disease, him and his team are working on it, house in a coma, final episode the team (with cameron back and 13, etc) trying to save him (maybe see some Tony Soprano style dreams so Hugh can have some part in the finale)

2. House and Wilsons chemo treatment doesn't work, and the cancer is aggressive, and penultimate episode wilson dies, funeral, final episode, house in the crackhouse all smacked out, an heroes, house funeral.

as for a happy ending, the real finale works out ok, or house having some disease and his team fixing it in time and him retiring would have been cool.

Eh, I liked the show the entire run, i used to love it, got pretty weird and boring, and not a fan of the hallucinations but I get what they represent.

FirstNationalBastard: Even a Sopranos cut to black as House died in a fire would have been better.

Sopranos finale was amazing. Only people that don't realize Tony died think it was a bad finale.

Link

Just read the first part, proves 100 percent that Tony dies, not some geek fans interpretation either, it is a fact.

Porous Horace: Something to do with a Talking Heads song.

I was right, it seems.

Hooray for small victories.
And now back to my bleak existence.

Eh, it's the only happy ending that could have really worked. As far as ending the grand tragedy of Gregory House...weak.

I have a solution *clears throat* Brain...delete last three minutes and replace with Wilson boozing himself so hard HE gets the hallucinations for once. I was actually smiling, in a twisted, perverted, satisfying story way when the building collapsed, because we all saw the body thing coming (did not see the dental record swap though), but that would have been the way to end it, as every instance of House striving to be a better person ends: prematurely.

I did like the fourth wall joke, "Nobody cares about the medicine".

Maybe it's because I have misanthropic tendencies, but I've often gotten angry at the writers and how they interpret House. I really can't discern what the character arc was, if there was one at all. And for a show that labels itself, and labeled by others, as a character study....that's KIND OF important.

Meh, these last few episodes have had such great moments, I was expecting a similar one tonight. No go. Oh well. This is like the ending to ME3 or something... xD

FirstNationalBastard: Honestly, I don't have an opinion on whether Tony Soprano died or not, and since I watched the Sopranos finale roughly 4 years after it aired, I knew what was coming and didn't mind it so much.

There is no "opinion" about whether or not Tony Soprano dies, there is only the fact that he died. That link doesn't push a theory of whether or not he is dead, it proves through cinematography that he is dead. I didn't read it for a long time when people here would post it, because I thought it was just some fan theory bullshiat open to interpretation. It isn't.

FirstNationalBastard: But I'm not here to biatch about the Sopranos. I'm here to biatch about the horrible feelgood crap that was the House finale.

Eh, aside from a suicide or him dying from a disease he and his team couldn't figure out, there aren't any real logical ways for it to end badly. If it's going to end on a happy note, him faking his own death isn't bad. I thought the finale was only ok, but it wasn't really awful. Could have been way better.

Epiphany: I didn't read it for a long time when people here would post it, because I thought it was just some fan theory bullshiat open to interpretation. It isn't.

Great. Nice. We're talking about house here. So fark off with that shiat.

FirstNationalBastard: People don't change. House spent 8 years confirming that. Then, he has a life affirming epiphany and changes in the final 10 minutes of the show?

THIS! I know they tried to make it a positive note. House made a commitment to change for the better.

Just like the end of Season 5.

And the end of Season 6.

And the dozen other points in this entire series where he has admitted to himself he was wrong, weak, etc, and it ultimately blows up in his face.

I'm just slightly confused as to why, despite everyone else making a reappearance, you couldn't bring back Cuddy? Even in a hallucination sort of way?

They just couldn't bring themselves to killing him off. They are bigger cowards than House.

Hebalo: Epiphany: I didn't read it for a long time when people here would post it, because I thought it was just some fan theory bullshiat open to interpretation. It isn't.

Great. Nice. We're talking about house here. So fark off with that shiat.

Welcome to fark, douchebag!

Mentat: weiner dog: It's just starting on the west coast. I've successfully avoided internet spoilers - swiped to the bottom of this page immediately after loading, so I wouldn't see any comments.

Here we go ...

At the end, he wakes up next to Suzanne Pleshette.

The finale for The Bob Newhart Show occurred before I was born, so the cultural significance of said finale, if there was one, is somewhat lost on me.

/Your lawn? Just passin' through ...

TheManofPA: weiner dog: It's just starting on the west coast. I've successfully avoided internet spoilers - swiped to the bottom of this page immediately after loading, so I wouldn't see any comments.

Here we go ...

So I'm going to be nice to you....but man is that just asking for trouble

I had this magical ability to not return to the thread for two hours. Even closed the Macbook an' everything, mister!
However, your kindness is duly noted.
:o)

weiner dog: The finale for The Bob Newhart Show occurred before I was born, so the cultural significance of said finale, if there was one, is somewhat lost on me.

Well, Mentat was actually referencing the finale for Newhart, which in turn referenced The Bob Newhart Show.

Mugato: I've never seen the show but why do they name shows based on someone's name, that is more known as something that isn't a name? House, Monk, Castle...ect. It's just confusing is all.

Yeah, what if Star Trek had been named "Kirk"

Epiphany: FirstNationalBastard: Even a Sopranos cut to black as House died in a fire would have been better.

Sopranos finale was amazing. Only people that don't realize Tony died think it was a bad finale.

Link

Just read the first part, proves 100 percent that Tony dies, not some geek fans interpretation either, it is a fact.


Best Link EVAR, wow my favorite main character died...what an awesome analysis that guy gives. Genius ending

FrankieD: Epiphany: FirstNationalBastard: Even a Sopranos cut to black as House died in a fire would have been better.

Sopranos finale was amazing. Only people that don't realize Tony died think it was a bad finale.

Link

Just read the first part, proves 100 percent that Tony dies, not some geek fans interpretation either, it is a fact.


Best Link EVAR, wow my favorite main character died...what an awesome analysis that guy gives. Genius ending

Yeah! Man, whenever its brought up in a thread about sopranos or season finales I always have to share the love with that link. Someone on fark (sorry I forget the name, might have been Tatsuma tho) kept posting that link for me to read whenever I would say I didn't like the ending of the sopranos. First time I read it, my brain exploded. Turned one of the worst endings ever into one of the best.

I kept saying "no, i'm not going to listen to nerd theories" but he was like "nope, it's a fact, read it" so I did, and i haven't been the same since. Glad I could share it with another person. Great ending.

GBmanNC: Wait did they just mention Dead Poets Society? Which Wilson (Robert Leonard) starred in?

which was also on Vh1 classic earlier Monday.

first time I've seen that movie.

As a person who's wife has Sjogren's, RA and Lupus

as well as a variety of other obscure illnesses, syndroms, situations, etc over the past few...

We have had a ball identifying all the same things she has/had on all the episodes.

/it's like a game to us by now...and yes, at times, it IS lupus.

I have a lot of fond memories watching this with my mother who died of metastasized lung cancer. When I first started the episode I said: "Mama, this is it" . I cannot believe I fell for the swerve. When the beam collapsed I yelled out "Nooooooooooooooo!" and broke down crying. Kept saying "Noo noo nooo nooo" over and over again. I'm a professional wrestler that's used to swerves and also a writer. Great ending. House really can change, and he's right: "cancer is boring". In the end he gave up everything for Wilson. He changed the dental records after he escaped in case anyone is dense enough to miss that. Great ending to a milestone series. There will never be another House.

ParagonComplex: I have a lot of fond memories watching this with my mother who died of metastasized lung cancer. When I first started the episode I said: "Mama, this is it" . I cannot believe I fell for the swerve. When the beam collapsed I yelled out "Nooooooooooooooo!" and broke down crying. Kept saying "Noo noo nooo nooo" over and over again. I'm a professional wrestler that's used to swerves and also a writer. Great ending. House really can change, and he's right: "cancer is boring". In the end he gave up everything for Wilson. He changed the dental records after he escaped in case anyone is dense enough to miss that. Great ending to a milestone series. There will never be another House.

So you're saying the ending was Russoesque? Just kidding I liked it. House proves that he's always smarter than everyone else.

Representative of the unwashed masses: ParagonComplex: I have a lot of fond memories watching this with my mother who died of metastasized lung cancer. When I first started the episode I said: "Mama, this is it" . I cannot believe I fell for the swerve. When the beam collapsed I yelled out "Nooooooooooooooo!" and broke down crying. Kept saying "Noo noo nooo nooo" over and over again. I'm a professional wrestler that's used to swerves and also a writer. Great ending. House really can change, and he's right: "cancer is boring". In the end he gave up everything for Wilson. He changed the dental records after he escaped in case anyone is dense enough to miss that. Great ending to a milestone series. There will never be another House.

So you're saying the ending was Russoesque? Just kidding I liked it. House proves that he's always smarter than everyone else.

his time is up, house time is now.
you can't see me my house is down!!

whether he's a figment like Lil jimmy or really alive, he lives on.
dead poets rise from the ashes and 13 dykes out with the asian chick and gives blowies to the rest of the staff...in a row....

eh, it had a good ending, but I didn't care much for the rest of the episode. Maybe if it was expanded to a 2 hour episode, but it otherwise kind of felt rushed and House was acting like even more of a dick than usual.

Whatever, I liked it. Now I'm gonna blow some money on a complete series dvd set.

I enjoyed the show... last couple seasons seemed to have just dragged. Good moments to be sure, but just not as engaging.

My favorite three of the show have always been House, Wilson, and Cuddy, the rest just sort of swirling about.

I wanted the ending to be House, still sitting in the looney bin heavily medicated with Wilson and Foreman looking over him, talking to the psych, and the psych just saying they can't afford to take him off the meds due to his temperment, and the last year or so has been all in his head.

... aaaand House wakes up, partnered with Arthur Weasley, and on a mission to kill and skin 101 black and white puppies.

HST's Dead Carcass: rynthetyn: I kind of liked the faked death ending

Considering Holmes did this in the books (retroactively), it shouldn't have been a big surprise to anyone.

Because everyone who watched House also reads Sherlock Holmes?

just finished watching the show . cant believe they blew the hospital up like that . then leaving those guys left alive under all that mess . now well never know if house dies of aids or if parks sex change operation and subsequent marriage to chase will ever happen . why did they do that ?!?

ZeroCorpse: TheManofPA: Tali: MmmCrime: Wilson is the only one that is under the impression House faked his death. What if Wilson created that illusion because he wasn't sure if he could deal with dying without House?

You know, I had that same thought myself.

Wow, that would have been the meanest double swerve in TV history if it was just Wilson hallucinating while undergoing treatment. I mean that would have been just WOW

...And then King Joffrey has him executed.

/Oh, wait... Sorry.
//Sad now. I have one less show to watch. I need a new show.

Try "Person of Interest". - its a cross between the Equalizer, Colossus the Forbin Project, Batman and the Matrix with Jesus and that guy from Lost.

This is more of a "second last epsiode" thing, but as it spilled over into this one...

I really don't get the end of that episode. "They fished the tickets out, and your fingerprints are all over them. You're going to jail".

Um, maybe he's fingerprints are all over it - and I'm going out on a limb here - because you handed them to him. Who'd have thought that he might have actually touched the tickets you literally put into his hands. And that's considered sufficient evidence to convict him? I mean, even in this episode, the dead guy (well, before he was dead) was talking about how he could claim to have stolen them and flushed them out of anger. Why isn't that a possibility in general? Why isn't that possibility sufficient for reasonable doubt? There's no evidence at all that House flushed them.

So the entire motivation for House's "plans" to avoid prison are moot, as there's no reason he should have been going back to prison in the first place.

Goodnight Dr. House Link

as an aside, did anyone else shed a tear at how bad Sela Ward looked after some facial procedures? I was bummin.

perigee: James72: perigee: Tali: tartie_pants: James72: Maybe Hugh Laurie is just making himself available for when Matt Smith leaves his role as Doctor Who

I just had a moment with that thought... thank you... now will Matt Smith leave

Someone at the BBC needs to get on this idea, post-freakin'-haste.

A beautiful idea, but the Beeb couldn't afford Laurie - hell, they couldn't afford his wardrobe expense.

I would consider the salary he would command to be an acceptable risk. Doctor Who already has a huge British following that likely won't increase much no matter who actor is that plays the Doctor. But, someone like Laurie could really open up the series to a LOT more viewers here in the US, and potentially bring in a lot more revenue to the BBC in licensing.

Story is, they simply No Gots. The BBC has been slashed severely and running on super austerity. I don't think they could if they wanted to, unless Laurie was willing to do it as a (virtual) hobby. Which I'd be perfectly OK with...

They can manage to afford both Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch, so I'm pretty sure they can wrestle up the funds for Laurie. Laurie could probably be convinced to take a much reduced paycheck for the show. Thirteen episodes a year in his home country would probably be a lot easier on him than twenty six episodes with a limp in the US.

If not, it would be great to see him play a villain of some sort (not the Master, let that one die). They did manage to get Derek Jacobi for an episode a while back, after all.

NeoCortex42: Anyone else think the volume level of the music is way too loud compared to the dialogue? Or is it just my feed?

The end song as Wilson and House ride away is the same song Amber sings that lets House know that he is hallucinating earlier in the series.

So there's the "at what point did Wilson start hallucinating? With the text message?" notion.

There's also the fact that switching dental records for a coroner is a lot easier to do if you have access to the hospital when people don't think you're already dead. Which means House did the switch when alive. Which means he committed pseudocide (faking his own death), but with an actual body. So there's the "did House execute the perfect murder to avoid jail?" notion.

stoli n coke: They rejected my script for the finally. I'll let you farkers decide if that was a good call?

HOUSE: What's wrong with the patient?
FORMAN: Looks like lupus.
HOUSE: Yep, Lupus. Now, let's go get wasted.

House and Forman leave the room and Olivia Wilde and Lisa Edelstein strip down for a 58-minute tickle fight.

CREDITS.

FADE IN.



FADE OUT.

I thought that the egotistical, narcissistic House "killing" himself was a nice touch. Especially since he was trading his future to make his friend happy in his dying months. People can change, then.

I just wish he'd ended up with the hooker. They were right for each other.