So, does that makes it 96? Tomorrow - 144?

You know, everyone is saying this is the largest amount of victims claimed by a serial killer. While more than John Wayne Gacy (33) or Ted Bundy (30), Henry Lee Lucas confessed to 77 murders and implicated himself- truthfully or not- in some 200 more.

This guy can't be serial killer.

1. He doesn't use his middle name.
2. He isn't from Wisconsin.

** WARNING: FILE CONTAINS REALLY DISTRUBING STUFF **

If you want to read the really sick farking details take a look at the 138-page Prosecutor's Summary of the Evidence from the King County Superior Court web site:

http://www.metrokc.gov/kcsc/docs/Ridg_Summary.pdf

** WARNING: FILE CONTAINS REALLY DISTRUBING STUFF **

Ahem, "disturbing," I believe is the word I was going for. Two previews and I still farked it up.

SwedishChef ain't kidding, that's some sick crap.

Necrophilia is distrubing indeed. I blame the uppity cheerleaders who probably didn't give him any in highschool. So to all the ladies, remember the sympathy humps, it might just save your life and 47 like it.

Wow, Swedish Chef, I hope loved ones of the victims will never, ever, read that. Scary stuff.

Jesus H. Christ. SwedishChef, you're really not farking around.

henry lee lucas was exposed as a fraud.

pedro alonzo lopez, however.....

The plan was: I wanted to kill as many women I thought were prostitutes as I possibly could.

Well, it's important to have a plan if you want to get anywhere in life.

Give 'im the chair!

Well, like I've always said about the justice system:
Support Capital Punishment: FRY 'EM!

*sniff* Hey..is that bacon I smell? No my friend, that's the smell of justice.

He had sex with prostitutes then killed them? OMFG! Ban Grand Theft Auto!

give um the giant plastic crayon
its time for unorthodox methods...

Someone will shiv him in prison before he can even begin enjoying institutional food -- for notoriety or vengeance.

Well whoever "hit's it" now knows she does anal for sure.

drhomer

Necrophilia is distrubing indeed. I blame the uppity cheerleaders who probably didn't give him any in highschool. So to all the ladies, remember the sympathy humps, it might just save your life and 47 like it.

Never mind the sympathy farks; I didn't even get a sympathy kiss in high school, but I'm not a farkin' serial killer.

damn it wrong forum ............lousy god

And Ann Rule will make a mint off of his story....

What could society possibly gain from housing this guy for the next 20 some years in prison? Why don't they just put a farking gun to his temple, and save us a bunch of money?

He admits to killing at LEAST 48 women, am I missing something here?

This guy is a cancer to society and in my eyes basically lost any right to the remainder of his life.

Reading the document gave me a creepy feeling. Especially reading each of the victims names. He needs death.

Wow. I feel sick after reading all of that.

Nothing a shot of bourbon won't cure.

Citizen X in Russia, Andrei Chikatilo whacked 58 at least

Ugh....stories like this make it _real_ hard for me to be anti-death penalty...

This guy is a cancer to society and in my eyes basically lost any right to the remainder of his life.

People like this guy (or Tim McVeigh or somebody) aren't usually what the death penalty opponents froth over. It's the people that get convincted on slim evidence that could (and sometimes is) eventually found to be wrong, or the poor, minority defendant that gets death in a case where another defendant may get life in prison.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0%2C12858%2C1020908%2C00.html

"Saeed Hanaei believed prostitutes were a 'waste of blood'. So he murdered 16 - and became a hero for Iran's Islamic militants. ..."

ElwoodCuse:

No shiat. That's what makes this all the more sick -- a plea bargain for at least 48 murders?!

"real_ hard for me to be anti-death penalty..."

Yes, and also, very hard to be pro-Gun Control. If only ONE of those hookers had a piece...?

Sometimes, conservatives are actually right about stuff.

Not often, but it does happen.

I can't get CCR out of my head.

im with the Toaster..
kill him by some new means.

i for one, suggest running him over with a Model T. it would take about 19 attempts.. but it would hurt, and thats what we really want here, him to suffer.

-not reading the descriptions of the killings.

What is it about serial killers and moustaches?

They could just whisper to the inmates "free carton of smokes to whoever offs him" and be done with it.

BoySchwen

Ed Gein and Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer didn't have 'staches.

Neither did David Birkowitz, or Richard Ramierez, or...

I imagine his life in gaol wouldn't be much fun. How many times was Peter Sutcliff assaulted whilst he was in prison? Death isn't enough.

According to what I remember hearing on NPR yesterday, the reason the deal for life without parole was made is because the GRK agreed to bring light to many cases in addition to the 7 murder's they had him on. The DA refused. After much thought & debate, though, made the deal because he felt that he could bring closure to the families of the additional murder's that would remain unsolved if the deal was not made.

After the deal was made I think the GRK released more information that they perhaps expected.

So - for sympathy of families of missing girls, the plea bargin was accepted to bring said families closure & to get all the information out of the GRK that they could.

Or something like that.

As stated before, it is very disturbing that he was allowed to plead out to avoid the death penalty for such an obvious crime. Why? Who does he know? I mean, that's usually how things work anymore - it's who you know, or who you blow.

From what I've read, they're giving him life in prison because he exchanged information as to the wherabouts of some of the remaining corpses.

He seems like a great specimen for extreme medical experiments, So at least this waste of skin can contribute something before he fries.

What was the shiat his lawyers were saying on CNN today? That he was a "pleasant man", nice guy to talk to? Yeah, apart from the killin'.

Gary Ridgway?

Any relation to Stan?

what's truly disturbing about serial killers is they could be anybody. ted bundy was a suicide hotline volunteer, joined the Seattle Crime Prevention Council, even authored a booklet on rape prevention. ed guin if i remember correctly was the town babysitter.

AbbyNormal

True, Ed Gein is not technically a serial killer, since FBI definitions state that a serial killer must kill three or more people in seperate incidents.

But the bizarre nature of his behavior can be connected to serial killer psychology and tendencies, thus qualifying him anyways.

I mean, he had a belt made from nipples taken from corpses. That's farked up.

I watched part of a tv interview with several of the families of the victims. It was DISGUSTING to see how they had to wrestle with their REAL feelings while remaining politically correct on the outside for the tv camera.

If you were to ask any of them in private how they felt or what they wanted, believe me, they would SCREAM "Kill that farker...I wiill not have closure until that scum is DEAD". And that's only what they would say about the cameraman and the interviewer!!!

BTW ed guin may or may not be a serial killer.they only proved he had killed two people the rest of the body parts at his home we don't know if he killed to get or dug up since he was a cannibal(ate from a skull bowel)and necrophiliac.

Mattevil

Gacy was a clown. AGGHHHHHHH!!!!

However, the conception that serial killers are "normal" or "ordinary" is overblown. Most serial killers are of sub-average intelligence with little education and clearly display signs of anti-social or abnormal behavior. Most have heavy past criminal records prior to their "careers" as serial killers.

skull bowel? That sounds painful!

Alice
This guy can't be serial killer.

1. He doesn't use his middle name.
2. He isn't from Wisconsin.

1. I've seen "Gary Leon Ridgway" mentioned quite a few times in papers. I think people are catching on and using it more just to put him in that category.
2. States that start with "W" count. Washington has plenty of sick bastards here. Just ask Ann Rule...

The only thing that make me say he isn't is that he didn't try to defend himself in court...

But his plea of "I don't want to die." WTF?! Come and pet the Pu$$y. Whine whine.

dogtulosba

The states with the highest occurances of serial murder are California (natch), New York, Florida, Texas, and I think Pennsylvania and Washington aren't far behind.

There's no proven correlation between serial killers and so-called "border states" as has been postulated. It just makes sense that there would be more serial killers in areas with high populations and large urban areas, since most killers target transients or prostitutes who are in heavy supply in cities.

When sentencing, will they consider his work with Wall of Voodoo and appearance in such films as Rumble Fish?

Just curious.

48 eh?
Wonder if it had been Senators or Police wives, how fast he would have been caught?

Man, what a lady-killer that dude must be.


I got nuthin.

ChairmanKaga

It's more complex than that. Serial killers purposefully target prostitutes and transients because when they go missing, nobody usually reports it.

It's not like this guy was going around killing poor housewives or people who had been REPORTED murdered; the majority of people killed by Ridgeway were just never reported as missing. It wasn't until they were found (which, in some cases, was years after the murder) that the polic were able to investigate the murder.

In a sense, the police were always one step behind, given the nature of the crimes and that the fact that "abductions" did not occur.

Agree with you, ChairmanKaga. Ridgeway even said in his statement (paraphrasing) that he knew he could get by with killing prostitutes. The very nature of their business makes them easy targets for whatever whack-job nut comes down the pike, I suppose. I can't help but think some police officers probably thought he was doing the city a service by killing them. Sad but true.

Stick this Farking Hole into OZ and let the "guest" have a lot of fun with him.

What is it about serial killers and moustaches?

AbbyNormal

Perhaps a better way to clarify it would be by the amount of dead. Most high-profile murderers (Bundy, Gacy, Fish, Dahmer) were fairly smart, which is why they were able to go so long before their capture.

However, most "minor" serial killer cases (there are hundreds every year) are committed by anti-social criminal dunces, which may be why they don't tally up the bodies like Ridgeway did.

Cunning would be a good word to describe the most prolific murderers. Ridgeway doesn't seem too smart, but he was smart enough to know how to avoid the cops.

I read the link that SwedishChef posted and oh my!

He would have sex with the bodies even after there were maggots crawling on and in them. (sick) He did this because it was convienient, cheap and they were his. He also would put stuff in their vaginas, mostly rocks.

This guy needs to die.

If I were him I would start admiting to every murder that had ever taken place. That way they think you are crazy and you get put into a mental institution instead of an ass-raping pententary, or should I say penatrationary... Either way the point is the same, life would be good with padded walls and jello every day.

If you're interested in the prosecutor's explanation of why the plea was accepted, have a look at the summary document mentioned earlier, but just look at pages 14-16 (using Acrobat Reader's page numbers -- these pages are numbered 9 through 11 in the document itself).

Just, whatever you do, stop reading before you get to Acrobat page 26 (numbered page 21 in the document itself). It gets really nasty from there. I need to scrub my brain now.

I am from europe and I am against the death penalty. But it would be kind of funny if they can tie this bastard to just ONE murder that he has not admitted to, and then they send him to the chair due to that.

CaptinJakbal:

true true, but notice that his plea bargain does not include protective custody.

he wont be getting the chair or the needle or the gas chamber, but i bet what he's gonna get will be way more painful.

Hm. In his position, I'd probably have _requested_ the death penalty. There's not much point to a confined, regimented existence without chance of parole, commutation, pardon, or escape.

Well, now that I've reas Swedishchef's post I feel thoroughly grossed out and horrified.

Ah well, its not like I wasn't warned

He turned himself into a commodity. Now every wannabe serial killer buff who has any connection to the law-enforcement industry will line up to interview him. He's worth more alive than dead and that's why he will not be executed, although he richly deserves the intravenous cocktail hour.

From this morning's Charlotte Observer:

Ridgway was arrested two years ago, after DNA evidence taken from three of his victims was found to match his saliva. Authorities had had this information for nearly 14 years and have been criticized for not moving faster to make the match. But King County Prosecuting Attorney Norm Maleng insisted again Wednesday that police made the arrest as soon as "modern forensic science caught up to Ridgway."

Excuse me, but I thought matched DNA WAS modern forensic science.

OK....that has to be the sickest thing i read, and i didnt even finish. that guy was way out there....i mean, maggots and necrophilia shouldn't go in the same sentence. man o man

After reading the document, the most disturbing thing here is the mentality toward his victims. It was actually chilling. He can remeber every detail of his life in painful detail. He can remeber the cost of things he bought 20+ years ago. He can remeber the weather and locations and details of even mundane aspects of his life (which almost no one alive can do by the way - because we don't anally focus on these things) and yet his victims were beneath his notice. They truly didn't matter. He killed them and did not believe he was taking anything of any worth.

It is astonishing that humans can create such monsters. I would love to know what went wrong in this guys life to cause this. I know that he took his divorce hard, but he was cheating on her with hookers. His big spree of killing took place between marriages (2 and 3 if I remember).

The guy must have some great charisma though. He was married three time and engaged to someone else in there too. He also mentioned hooking up with women at single parents groups. He must have made a hell of a first impression.

Don't forget about Robert Pickton the pig farmer who has been charged with 15 murders right now.. and is suspected be linked to more than 60 murders and disapeerances of Vancouver Prostitutes.

Legalize prostitution get it off the streets and out of the hands of pimps. Its the oldest profession and its not going anywhere.

Many serial killers possess high intelligence. Just look at Hannibal Lecter and Pat Bateman. I wonder who would win in a cage match between Lecter and Bateman. I'm guessing Lecter, but Bateman could make it interesting and entertaining for a while.

What a slacker. He couldn't at least get to a nice even
# 50.

The King County prosecuter made the deal because they only had enough evidence to charge him with seven murders. Think of the families of the other 41 victims, and the possibility of them never knowing the circumstances of their loved one's death.

As for setting some sort of "dangerous precedent" as it relates to using the death penalty to plea bargain: Washington State law requires that only the existing law may be applied. It is interpreted on a case by case basis and future arguments may not be made that compare this case to others.

He deserves to swing, but to be merciful to the families of the victims, they made a tough but justified decision.

The King County prosecuter made the deal because they only had enough evidence to charge him with seven murders. Think of the families of the other 41 victims, and the possibility of them never knowing the circumstances of their loved one's death.

As for setting some sort of "dangerous precedent" as it relates to using the death penalty to plea bargain: Washington State law requires that only the existing law may be applied. It is interpreted on a case by case basis and future arguments may not be made that compare this case to others.

He deserves to swing, but to be merciful to the families of the victims, they made a tough but justified decision.

The King County prosecuter made the deal because they only had enough evidence to charge him with seven murders. Think of the families of the other 41 victims, and the possibility of them never knowing the circumstances of their loved one's death.

As for setting some sort of "dangerous precedent" as it relates to using the death penalty to plea bargain: Washington State law requires that only the existing law may be applied. It is interpreted on a case by case basis and future arguments may not be made that compare this case to others.

He deserves to swing, but to be merciful to the families of the victims, they made a tough but justified decision.

He deserves to swing, but to be merciful to the families of the victims, they made a tough but justified decision.



it will be even better when he is beaten to death in prison.

The King County prosecuter made the deal because they only had enough evidence to charge him with seven murders. Think of the families of the other 41 victims, and the possibility of them never knowing the circumstances of their loved one's death.

As for setting some sort of "dangerous precedent" as it relates to using the death penalty to plea bargain: Washington State law requires that only the existing law may be applied. It is interpreted on a case by case basis and future arguments may not be made that compare this case to others.

He deserves to swing, but to be merciful to the families of the victims, they made a tough but justified decision.

Since his life is already gonna be spared, can't we just ship him off to Syria and tell him "Have it man, this country is your playground"?

"Catch me if you can, Mr. Lusk."
"We already did. You're in police custody."
"D'oh!"

I agree. By the way, Washington State allows hanging or lethal injection. I would prefer that they grease him up, handcuff his wrists to his ankles, and parade him through federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison.

Polygraphs ARE worthless, they have very little or at most spurious scientific evidence backing them.

I can't believe they are letting this guy get off with life in prison. Of course, it's only a matter of time before he is brutally raped and murdered, so I guess it all balances out.

I think the state should employ his "If you stop fighting I will stop" technique.

Did we say we weren't going to kill you...oh no you must 've heard us wrong...but thanks for all of the information...time for a long long nap

AbbyNormal: "And people trusted Albert Fish enough to leave there children with them"

I'd forgot about Albert Fish!

Quick summary: (1870-1936) Raised in an orphanage, he took sexual excitement in being abused. That, combined with a strong family history of insanity, helped him develop into a sadomasochistic-homosexual-pedophile-cannibal-religious nut who thought he was Jesus/Abraham and who's morality was: If it were really wrong, an angel would stop him.

He's got to get the award for craziest. The whole needles into the scrotum/rectum thing, beating himself with nails, and then helping the police strap him into the electric chair... And this before Hollywood!

Come on, let's take Carlin's advice and bring back farkin crucifixion. Upsidedown crucifixion in the middle of a stadium where the audience can throw lawn darts at him.

Why be civilized to this guy?

2003-11-06 12:33:38 PM Craptastic
Wow. I feel sick after reading all of that.
Nothing a shot of bourbon won't cure

Same here. Except it's Bacardi..

I wouldn't kill him, not exactly sure why just yet, I just wouldnt. I think there may be way more information to be gleaned from this guy.

I still can't help but wonder if this guy'd been black or hispanic how well Dave Reichert and the boys at King County would have been treating him, or if good ol quotin' the bible Christian Norm Maeling would have taken him up on the offer.

There was just something a little too chummy with those photos of Green River Gary out in the woods in civilian clothes, no cuffs, and a cap, right alongside the cops as they searched for clues together.

I saw that and thought .. wow, you can be a serial rapist murderer in the Northwest, but if you're from here, and you're white, you are still in the club. Then I thought of all the non-white guys that have been shot around here by the cops for stupid petty things..

Well it just makes you think.

I am also still curious how he gets handled in prison, people seem to think he's a dead man, but I sort of think the hard time cons will look up to him like he's some kind of superstar. Offed more biatches than he can remember and still didn't fry. I don't know how this stuff works obviously, but I could still see there being sort of a ring of honor in prison waiting for this guy.

Thanks for the link, swedishchef... the details in that report really show who the killer is, and it's a mystery why the mainstream media doesn't mention them.

Generation_D: Misconception about prison is that it is filled to capacity to people who would kill you just as soon as look at you and would respect a guy like this. The truth is that the majority of people in prison are there for either:

1) Non violent offenses such as drug dealing/possession, burglary, larceny, fraud, shop lifting, etc...

2) Violent, gand related killing. There is honor among these theives as they pattern themselves after the mafia and only kill others of their kind (i.e rival gang members and drug dealers)

3) Violent crimes of passion. A smaller percentage than the above, but when added to the other groups, certainly helps to round out the bulk of your prison population.

I have known people who went for each of the above reasons. I grew up in a portion of Buffalo that was heavily gang controlled. I knew a few people who went away on various drug charges. A couple that got picked up for thefts, breaking and entering, even pick pocketing. I knew a guy that went to jail for killing another man in a bar fight. One that went away for killing his girlfriend in a DWI. The vast majority of these people were of little or no danger to the average person (they still deserved to go to prison), but were basically decent, if not flawed people.

The guy I knew who went up for shooting a rival gang member was dangerous, but by his own admission, only to other gang members.

The man that I knew growing up who murdered his brother (both were early forties and had young children at the time) in a fit of jealous rage is a different story.

In prison, a guy like this will most likely not be looked at kindly. If the prisoners ever read the transcripts that we just did, he could very well find himself shanked by some gang member serving life.

A few points of clarification (from a local):

1. The deal was to (a) bring closure; (b) solve many murders that they did not have evidence on (and didn't even have the body); (c) save the tens of millions of dollars of an extended trial (estimated to be the most expensive ever, not to mention death-penalty appeals -- far more expensive than life in prison).

2. The deal is only good for murders in King County. He could still be charged (and sentenced to death) for murders in other counties in Washington.

And a comment: Washington has the death penalty, and that certainly didn't deter Ridgway (or Bundy).

when asked why he killed prostitutes:

Uh, prostitutes were the, the easiest. I went from uh, havin sex
with em to just plain killing em.

wow, can we say "electric chair?"

or not, since he is getting life in prison, meh, whatever

You just gotta love how these sick farks seem to be able to avoid the death penalty by cooperatively telling the authorities where to find MORE dead bodies (that the authorities don't know who's responsible for).

I sometimes hate the farking justice system.

I wonder if "Take me breath away" was playing on the radio.....



damn, where is my ticket

You know, every time I try to threadjack or start a flame, I get nowhere.

I had earlier posted this link to a story on the guardian about an Iranian serial killer who killed sixteen prostitutes. The fun part is how a large Islamic militant population supports what he's doing -- and might even join in.

It has serial killings, Islam doing evil, relative cultures and morality... What more does it take? Oh, other people can threadjack! But poor deSelby! He's a looooser!

I have problems..

I read the ENTIRE PDF..

But I cannot read a book

deSelby: Go chop up some hookers. You'll feel better.

I lived in Seattle until 1997. I partied at the Moonrise Motel Motel many times in the mid-80's. This guy terrorized the community like you wouldn't believe. A friend of mine did her thesis project on the victims. I still haven't forgotten what it looks like.

He needs to sit in jail and slowly rot.

"I picked prostitutes as my victims because I hate most prostitutes and I did not want to pay them for sex. I also picked prostitutes as victims because they were easy to pick up without being noticed. I knew they would not be reported missing right away, and might never be reported missing. I picked prostitutes because I thought I could kill as many of them as I wanted without getting caught."

This guy is a cheap, lazy bastard. That's why he gets a retarded name like "The Green River Killer" and nothing cool like "The Night Stalker." "I didn't want to pay them, and hey - they were easy killin'! "

You'll never get anywhere in life like that, pal. You have to challenge yourself.

Note to families of victims: HIRE THE MAFIA TO GET RID OF THIS PIECE OF SH*T. THEY WOULD LOVE YOUR BIZ.

so, how's you like to be his son, and read this, and find out that the camping trip your dad took you on when you were a kid was really just for him to dispose of some bodies in another state. He used your bags and camping equipment to cover the bodies in the back of the truck.

And those times you fell asleep on the truck your dad was out in the woods farking and then killing the women he had picked up.

Christ, he used the kids photo to show the prostitutes he was a safe guy, and showed themthe kid's room as a "see, I'm a family man, I won't hurt you" before he strangled them to death. Toys on the dashboard of the truck even.

Good god. that pdf document is sobering, to say the least. Horrifying. For someone to be so totally removed from humanity.

I need to go shower now. About a thousand times.

Also, a hearty thanks to the liberal-poisoned justice system for sparing the life of this scum. May you all rot in hell beside this guy.

Sick, just plain sick.

Cut-and-dried cases like this guy are the only ones where I think the death penalty is deserved. Preferably by handing him over to the families of the victims. Here's hoping they find him a nice safe jail somewhere near Seattle and save a bit of money by just tossing him in with everybody else.

TracyTracy

That is exactly what I was thinking. Where the heck is this now-grown young boy. I can bet he is needing couselling right about now. I hope he gets it or we may be looking at a repeat performance.

Sad story. What makes guys do this? Maybe it was all about the bed-wetting until 14 and his mom cleaning his wee wee afterwards. That amd the sick bastard suffocated a cat. That takes the cake.

This is a very strange story. Perfect for Fark.

And the whole thing about him being "put off" when the bodies were too far decomposed. I will never again be put off by a girl who happens to be having her period.

That I can handle.

"Smell my finger?"

~ Stinky Pinky ~

This is so very gross on so many levels. I feel dirty just talking about it.

Frotteur
In local news around here in Seattle, they said in one of his interviews, Ridgeway was actually concerned what Ann Rule thought of him and how she was going to write about him (read: legacy).

Generation_D
Spare me the good ol' boys bullsh*t. And all the 'non-white' guys that have been shot around Seattle by cops have not been for "stupid petty things" -- it's pretty clear that you have little respect for law enforcement in the first place and get your news from The Daily. Ridgeway was of little threat once caught and in custody -- he wasn't about to run away from his trophies and legacy and not get to read about it.

In jail, what Ridgeway did holds no honor. They will have to separate him for his own safety, though I'd like to see him bunked with "bubba" as much as the next guy.

thanks swedishchef for the sleuthwork and for digging upthat article...........

I'm joining the long line for the shower.. with a bucket of lye and a wire scrub brush... because I feel beyond dirty after soaking that all in.

And there had better be plenty of hot scalding water left.

..wow....

*right after I go make a call my mother to cry and tell her how much I miss her and wish she were here to hug me right about now...*

...wow.....

Deep fry that son of a biatch and dump a bucket of piss on the body. He isn't even worth directly peeing on. Forget the plea-bargain crap. He killed at least 48 people, women, and he confessed because he doesn't want to die? Tough shiat! I bet those women didn't want to die either! Time to ride the lightning, asshole!

can we start a thread about how long till he gets shanked? like a pool or something? pick one:

the GRK will be shanked within:

O hours
O days
O a few weeks or months
O years
O never

i pick a few weeks or months

huck