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(Wrangler News)   Jan Brewer vetoes a bill to reward community service among high school students because...oh hell, I don't even know   (wranglernews.com) divider line 153
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2012-05-20 09:30:09 PM
Community bullsh*t non-profit nonsense is not what our Founding Father John Pierpoint Morgan taught us about America!

Charge the homeless for their bread, soup and brimstone! Teach those bums that in this life ain't nothin' for free!
 
2012-05-20 09:32:15 PM
Community service is socialist

/and not in the Constitution
 
2012-05-20 09:33:06 PM
So the schools can't keep track of the community service?

What exactly was the award, a plaque or something? Seems like a waste of money. Put it on the HS transcripts if you must.
 
2012-05-20 09:38:06 PM
Well, okay then ...
 
2012-05-20 09:41:33 PM
feckingmorons: Seems like a waste of money.

Seems like something that should be recognized and praised to me. A $10 plaque might well be paid back x1000.

/you deserve a plaque, feckingmorons, your own self.
 
2012-05-20 09:42:32 PM
It makes the evil brown people seem like nice people instead of the drug runners they really are?
 
2012-05-20 09:43:07 PM
Meh, you should do good deeds for the act of doing good deeds, not for reward.
 
2012-05-20 09:45:57 PM
"The only reason she vetoed this bill is because it was sponsored by a Democratic legislator and the idea originated with a student who identifies himself as a Democrat,"

Jesus Christ is she an asshole.
 
2012-05-20 09:47:52 PM
basemetal: Meh, you should do good deeds for the act of doing good deeds, not for reward.

That's all well and good for grown up folks, but for kids trying to build college entrance creds, awards help.

But heaven forbid more AZ teens go to elite universities. That would be snobby.
 
2012-05-20 09:49:23 PM
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Because John Galt was some low rent idiot from Arizona.
 
2012-05-20 09:50:57 PM
Community service is a gateway activity that leads to community organizing?
 
2012-05-20 09:57:43 PM
I don't understand the point of the bill, or the veto.
 
2012-05-20 10:21:34 PM
violentsalvation: I don't understand the point of the bill, or the veto.

The name of the student volunteer organization was going to be Arizona Community Organization Responsibility Network -are you kidding me? Don't you understand that our very freedoms are being threatened by Socialism!
 
2012-05-20 10:31:31 PM
Because really, teenagers shouldn't waste their time with community service unless there's something in it for them.
 
2012-05-20 10:36:22 PM
In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?
 
2012-05-20 10:47:17 PM
If the childrens are being encouraged to volunteer their time, that's teh soshulizm indonktination, and is tantamount to treason. Our youth caring about their community is the greatest threat to our nation, and must be stopped at all cost.
 
2012-05-20 10:49:02 PM
Yeah, I second the motion for an [Arizona] tag. I mean, Floridians are just stupid. Zoners .... I donno, man. I don't know what's wrong with the water there...

/maybe it's the lack of water
 
2012-05-20 10:53:36 PM
xanadian: Yeah, I second the motion for an [Arizona] tag. I mean, Floridians are just stupid. Zoners .... I donno, man. I don't know what's wrong with the water there...

/maybe it's the lack of water


all the nuclear radiation from the test sites in the desert must rot their brains or something.
 
2012-05-20 11:23:39 PM
Because soshulism, subby. Because soshulism and libruls.

*pats subby's shoulder*
 
2012-05-20 11:28:01 PM
Man, this so devious, I can't even roughly sketch out how HUSSEIN S0mbrer0 Fartb0ng0 keeps making our beloved beloved Governor look so bad. I've searched and searched, but found...no connection. I can't take it much longer.

*must...download...spin*
*must...download...spin*
*must...download...spin*
 
2012-05-20 11:33:17 PM
Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?


So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

i1263.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-20 11:39:26 PM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?

So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

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Yeah, I wasn't too sure about my argument. But how a bill creating an award for students doing community service is a violation of the separation of powers is beyond me...
 
2012-05-20 11:43:19 PM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?

So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

[i1263.photobucket.com image 279x218]


Isn't the executive branch supposed to execute the laws as written by the legislative branch? That sounds a little like telling the executive branch what to do, especially if passed over a veto.
 
2012-05-20 11:49:55 PM
Paris1127: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?

So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

[i1263.photobucket.com image 279x218]

Yeah, I wasn't too sure about my argument. But how a bill creating an award for students doing community service is a violation of the separation of powers is beyond me...


I don't know either, but the logical extreme of her argument seems to be that the executive branch could selectively enforce laws, which she has complained about in regards to immigration.
 
2012-05-21 12:15:55 AM
"The only reason she vetoed this bill is because it was sponsored by a Democratic legislator and the idea originated with a student who identifies himself as a Democrat," said Sen. Schapira in a press release

That's all you got to know about the bill. It obviously has a rat-like ulterior motive behind it.
 
2012-05-21 12:16:10 AM
basemetal: Meh, you should do good deeds for the act of doing good deeds, not for reward.

Imagine there's no Heaven.
 
2012-05-21 12:18:22 AM
Type_Hard: Community service is a gateway activity that leads to community organizing?

And we all know what that leads to. Knee socks.

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2012-05-21 12:19:55 AM
Again, the governor of Arizona showing that she's a farking idiot.

Good news is that if the legislature tries to overrule the veto, it will pass easily. It received unanimous approval in the State Senate and just shy of 90% approval in the State House. Link, look for "Third Read" for the vote totals
 
2012-05-21 12:20:05 AM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?

So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

[i1263.photobucket.com image 279x218]


Jan Brewer may have just declared herself Empress of Arizona.
 
2012-05-21 12:20:17 AM
On the bright side, this kid can now put that a bill he helped create was vetoed by America's most racist governor. That's something, right?
 
2012-05-21 12:22:20 AM
WorldCitizen: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.

Um... how is that argument relevant? Also, is that argument even correct?

So, the legislative branch can't tell Obama what he can and cannot do?

[i1263.photobucket.com image 279x218]

Isn't the executive branch supposed to execute the laws as written by the legislative branch? That sounds a little like telling the executive branch what to do, especially if passed over a veto.


This is what I was going for... Doesn't the legislative branch create some limits for the executive? Federally, for example, there's the War Powers Act (except when disregarded, like in El Salvador in 1981, Kosovo in 1999 and Libya in 2011)

Also, I think the fact that this bill was introduced by a Dem and managed to pass both houses of the Arizona Legislature is reason enough to sign it, Jan... (Republicans control the Senate 21:9, the House 40:20)
 
2012-05-21 12:22:51 AM
Jesus. Kids are given awards for making it through kindergarten but their volunteer time can't be recognized?
 
2012-05-21 12:24:15 AM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: Paris1127: In a letter, Brewer called the bill is unnecessary, redundant and a violation of Constitutional separation of powers, meaning that the legislative branch of the government cannot tell the executive branch what it can and cannot do.


www.chronicle.su


As to why, the answer is here

She has one serious hate on for Obama.
 
2012-05-21 12:27:25 AM
desertgeek: Again, the governor of Arizona showing that she's a farking idiot.

And yet she occasional shows rare bits of intelligence. I guess it depends who pulls her strings on any given day.
 
2012-05-21 12:29:22 AM
ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: i1263.photobucket.com

I've spent the last 10 minutes trying to find that spot on the SMB3 maps and came up empty.

What are the most popular SMB3 rom hacks?
 
2012-05-21 12:31:59 AM
Every penny spent on awards is a penny that could go to violating the civil rights of legal imigrants in Arapioland. Do you idiots not understand this? I mean, it could cost the total of 3 or 4 pair of pink underwear for his political prisoners that criminal scourge he keeps warning about!
 
2012-05-21 12:34:03 AM
When is this biatch up for election?
 
2012-05-21 12:37:24 AM
ToxicMunkee: Jesus. Kids are given awards for making it through kindergarten but their volunteer time can't be recognized?

And a minimum of 200 hours volunteer time. That's some serious work and any teenager that puts that much time into helping their community deserves a little recognition. Teaching our children to care for their community pays for itself 1000x over; everything from them picking up a piece of trash instead of tossing another piece next to it, to them giving aid to an elderly person that falls on the sidewalk, to spending an afternoon with a local organization to repaint a wall that has gang signs sprayed on it. But hey, Obama likes it, so fark that.

A certificate, a handshake, and a thank you in front of a small public group (at an event that would take place anyway). That's all it takes to put some people into a lifetime of giving back to their community. Anyone who would argue against a program that costs almost nothing, has a huge return over the long run, and improves the living conditions of those that you supposedly work for is a vile and spiteful being.
 
2012-05-21 12:38:30 AM
basemetal: Meh, you should do good deeds for the act of doing good deeds, not for reward.

That's why we repealed the charitable contribution tax deduction eighty years ago, right? Cause we don't reward people who do good deeds just because? Oh, wait, that's right. We have to reward the ludicrously wealthy for doing good deeds, but us peons should settle for getting a warm feeling in our bellies. My mistake.
 
2012-05-21 12:40:12 AM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: Anyone who would argue against a program that costs almost nothing, has a huge return over the long run, and improves the living conditions of those that you supposedly work for is a vile and spiteful being.

Nobody hates their fellow Americans like Republicans do.
 
2012-05-21 12:41:38 AM
Tea Partiers do not want to create community organizers. They have been burned more than once.

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2012-05-21 12:47:19 AM
As far as I can remember from when I applied for colleges, I was able to list all my volunteer activities without having to document them with awards or certificates to verify them. So I do not see a NEED for giving students an award or official recognition as far as being able to claim it for colleges, jobs, scholarships etc. Times may have changed though, and a piece of paper doesn't cost that much to mass produce, so I don't see this as a bad idea.

One question I have is if the Governor's state still hands out D.A.R.E. certificates? and how does that fit into her argument against recognition of volunteer efforts.

/D.A.R.E - Drugs Are Really Expensive
//that is all I remember from my time in the program
 
2012-05-21 12:51:34 AM
Conservatives really, really hate that whole "thousand points of light" thing that Reagan talked about.
Almost as much as they hate the words of Jesus.
 
2012-05-21 12:51:47 AM
Britney Spear's Speculum: When is this biatch up for election?

I think the Cryptkeeper's term-limited, so she'll no doubt be grooming an heir apparent who's as bad or worse
 
2012-05-21 12:53:36 AM
Being a republican in this day and age has to be a sign of a mental disorder. This makes no sense. It's either mean-spirited or spiteful. Regardless, it's counter-productive. But such is republican ideology.
 
2012-05-21 12:58:37 AM
Don't Troll Me Bro!: ToxicMunkee: Jesus. Kids are given awards for making it through kindergarten but their volunteer time can't be recognized?

And a minimum of 200 hours volunteer time. That's some serious work and any teenager that puts that much time into helping their community deserves a little recognition. Teaching our children to care for their community pays for itself 1000x over; everything from them picking up a piece of trash instead of tossing another piece next to it, to them giving aid to an elderly person that falls on the sidewalk, to spending an afternoon with a local organization to repaint a wall that has gang signs sprayed on it. But hey, Obama likes it, so fark that.

A certificate, a handshake, and a thank you in front of a small public group (at an event that would take place anyway). That's all it takes to put some people into a lifetime of giving back to their community. Anyone who would argue against a program that costs almost nothing, has a huge return over the long run, and improves the living conditions of those that you supposedly work for is a vile and spiteful being.


You know what would REALLY Teach them something? Being put to work for below minimum wage as high school janitors.
 
2012-05-21 12:59:16 AM
xanadian: Yeah, I second the motion for an [Arizona] tag. I mean, Floridians are just stupid. Zoners .... I donno, man. I don't know what's wrong with the water there...

/maybe it's the lack of water


FYI, they recycle their water.
 
2012-05-21 01:01:11 AM
200 hours volunteer time counts as a credit towards graduation here
 
2012-05-21 01:01:40 AM
Because she's a witch, and it's way past time for her burning. We don't even need to check if she weighs the same as a duck.

That she would veto a bill to reward community service given by high school students FOR NO REASON is proof that she has no heart and needs to be slow-roasted, now, as soon as the coals can be prepared.
 
2012-05-21 01:02:19 AM
One of the comments on the site called Brewer Governor Palpatine and I spit all over my monitor.
 
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