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2012-05-20 08:53:21 PM  

TheShavingofOccam123: 4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?


The GOP kept putting Palin on a farking pedestal practically every day from Wed. Nov 5th, 2008 to around October 2011.
That pretty much soaked up all the limelight leaving none for anyone else.
I'd argue that Huckabee was their next better shot but he didn't run at all.
 
2012-05-20 08:53:48 PM  

AeAe: TheShavingofOccam123: 4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?

I think the Republicans know that they won't/can't win this election. So instead of running a viable candidate, they are running Romney because they have to run someone.

They will wait for 2016 to run someone viable.


They're hard at work at taking the Senate.
 
2012-05-20 08:54:00 PM  

MeinRS6: Fear?

Isn't it possible that people would come out to vote for change in the WH? There is such a thing as real disagreement with Obama and his policies. No fear required.

Romney has some of the same problems as McCain and that helps Obama on the national level. It won't make any difference in TN though. Obama will lose there by a lot of points.


Why then does every speech I hear from Republicans features the phrase, "America can't survive another 4 years of Barack Obama?". It's hyperbolic fear mongering. And it is thoroughly, anti-American. To suggest that our nation could not survive one man, no matter how much you dislike his politics, is an insult to everything America has stood for.
 
2012-05-20 08:55:43 PM  
Wait...these aren't even registered voters?

Registered voter polls aren't even reliable as compared to likely voter polls. They also tend to skew Dem by about 5 points.
 
2012-05-20 08:58:25 PM  

Mrtraveler01: AeAe: TheShavingofOccam123: 4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?

I think the Republicans know that they won't/can't win this election. So instead of running a viable candidate, they are running Romney because they have to run someone.

They will wait for 2016 to run someone viable.

They're hard at work at taking the Senate.


Are you serious? (Seriously, I can't tell).

They will probably lose Massachusetts and Indiana.
 
2012-05-20 08:59:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

He has statisticals.


But are they harmonized, or full of quirks?
 
2012-05-20 09:02:00 PM  

Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?


Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.
 
2012-05-20 09:02:02 PM  

LordJiro: I, for one, would find it quite hilarious if Obama wins even one of the 'safe' Republican states. I might even listen to Rush Limbaugh that day, just to hear what a head exploding sounds like over the radio.


I'm not sure if you'd count it as one of the 'safe' Republican states, but Missouri is likely to be the 'surprise' and go Democrat this election which will cause an equivalent amount of discombobulation amongst Limbaugh and his ilk.

Missouri was only won by McCain by 1% last election and the difference this time is:

i) McCain was seen as a better Christian than Obama. Romney is not seen as a better Christian than Obama, and possibly as much worse.

ii) At least some of the votes that went to McCain last election were caused by the fear of having a black man as president. Now that Obama has been president for a few years and people have become used to it, he should get a few extra percentage in MO.

iii) Romney is an obvious flake who will blatantly say anything to get elected. This is not going to play well in the 'show me' state.

iv) Romney failed to win any primaries in the 'mid-west' until every single other nominee dropped out. This shows how massively weak his appeal in the middle of the country.

I don't think that Missouri will be a massive blow out victory for the Democrats but Obama will probably take it by 3-5%.

If that happened not only would Romney lose massively in this election but it'd mean that the 2016 election would require a massive swing to Republicans for them to even have a shot at the presidency.
 
2012-05-20 09:08:52 PM  
The second biggest city in TN is very liberal and mostly black. Al Gore was our senator.
 
2012-05-20 09:10:20 PM  

MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.


Broseph, if polling methods were to be discarded based on their wild inaccuracies land-line polling would have already gone out of style.

\tinfoil time: people may have secondary motives when publishing polls
 
2012-05-20 09:10:35 PM  

AeAe: Mrtraveler01: AeAe: TheShavingofOccam123: 4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?

I think the Republicans know that they won't/can't win this election. So instead of running a viable candidate, they are running Romney because they have to run someone.

They will wait for 2016 to run someone viable.

They're hard at work at taking the Senate.

Are you serious? (Seriously, I can't tell).

They will probably lose Massachusetts and Indiana.


Also, aren't they going to primary McConnell? Or am I crazy.
 
2012-05-20 09:11:13 PM  

Danack: LordJiro: I, for one, would find it quite hilarious if Obama wins even one of the 'safe' Republican states. I might even listen to Rush Limbaugh that day, just to hear what a head exploding sounds like over the radio.

I'm not sure if you'd count it as one of the 'safe' Republican states, but Missouri is likely to be the 'surprise' and go Democrat this election which will cause an equivalent amount of discombobulation amongst Limbaugh and his ilk.

Missouri was only won by McCain by 1% last election and the difference this time is:

i) McCain was seen as a better Christian than Obama. Romney is not seen as a better Christian than Obama, and possibly as much worse.

ii) At least some of the votes that went to McCain last election were caused by the fear of having a black man as president. Now that Obama has been president for a few years and people have become used to it, he should get a few extra percentage in MO.

iii) Romney is an obvious flake who will blatantly say anything to get elected. This is not going to play well in the 'show me' state.

iv) Romney failed to win any primaries in the 'mid-west' until every single other nominee dropped out. This shows how massively weak his appeal in the middle of the country.

I don't think that Missouri will be a massive blow out victory for the Democrats but Obama will probably take it by 3-5%.

If that happened not only would Romney lose massively in this election but it'd mean that the 2016 election would require a massive swing to Republicans for them to even have a shot at the presidency.


As a Missourian, let me tell you one word why it will stay in GOP hands this November:

Ozarks.
 
2012-05-20 09:12:19 PM  

HighOnCraic: TV's Vinnie: Ed Finnerty: You stupid libs forget to factor in the power of Romney's magical underwear.

WTF is it with you rightards and the word "libs" all the time?

Not sure, but I think your sarcasm meter needs to be checked.


Thank you. I was kidding, TV's Vinnie. I guess they use it because it gets a reaction.
 
2012-05-20 09:14:57 PM  

MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.


Personally I think Obama will win this November but with a smaller margin than he did with McCain. He'll probably lose NC but might still be able to hold on to Virginia.

Seems like a reasonable prediction to me. Romney has a steep mountain to climb and he can still pull it off, but he has a much bigger challenge than Obama does.

Especially when you have a swing state like Ohio which relies heavily on the industry you said should just go bankrupt and fail rather than get bailed out.

Seems like a logical argument no?
 
2012-05-20 09:18:42 PM  

Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.

Personally I think Obama will win this November but with a smaller margin than he did with McCain. He'll probably lose NC but might still be able to hold on to Virginia.

Seems like a reasonable prediction to me. Romney has a steep mountain to climb and he can still pull it off, but he has a much bigger challenge than Obama does.

Especially when you have a swing state like Ohio which relies heavily on the industry you said should just go bankrupt and fail rather than get bailed out.

Seems like a logical argument no?


How did I know that you were going to change the subject away from the TN poll?

Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.
 
2012-05-20 09:18:52 PM  

thoughtless: MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.

Broseph, if polling methods were to be discarded based on their wild inaccuracies land-line polling would have already gone out of style.

\tinfoil time: people may have secondary motives when publishing writing polls


/Former pollster.
//It's evil the way some people can be manipulated into changing their minds by the way the questions are worded.
 
2012-05-20 09:19:44 PM  

cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians



i151.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-20 09:20:08 PM  
I every outlier poll going to get a green light?

Quick, someone find a poll where Romney leads in Illinois.
 
2012-05-20 09:20:11 PM  

MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?

Because the gap in favor of Romney will be far greater than this poll suggest after the votes are counted. So much so that this particular poll/polling method would be discredited. That is, if anyone remembered it then. Which no one will, so the same people will keep putting out the same crap.

If you would like to make a wager on this, I'm up for it. You bet what this poll is saying and I'll bet a wider margin. I've got a feeling that you will not take that bet.

Personally I think Obama will win this November but with a smaller margin than he did with McCain. He'll probably lose NC but might still be able to hold on to Virginia.

Seems like a reasonable prediction to me. Romney has a steep mountain to climb and he can still pull it off, but he has a much bigger challenge than Obama does.

Especially when you have a swing state like Ohio which relies heavily on the industry you said should just go bankrupt and fail rather than get bailed out.

Seems like a logical argument no?

How did I know that you were going to change the subject away from the TN poll?

Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.


No, unless Romney bombs, it'll probably turn red.
 
2012-05-20 09:21:18 PM  
The only way the GOP holds the House and possibly takes the Senate is if an extremely popular proper Protestant runs third party. Otherwise some of the GOP's base are going to sit this one out.
 
2012-05-20 09:21:54 PM  
The 1 point figure was adults........not even registered voters, let alone likely voters.

Registered voters favor Romney by 7....according to the article........and I suspect it's probably low double digits among people who will actually vote.

Nothing to see here, move along.
 
2012-05-20 09:23:00 PM  

thoughtless: Broseph, if polling methods were to be discarded based on their wild inaccuracies land-line polling would have already gone out of style.

\tinfoil time: people may have secondary motives when publishing polls


I agree. I've already posted before that I think every MSM poll between now and Nov will have Obama winning the election. If Romney ends up winning, none of those polling companies will be laughed out of business or even consider changing the way they conduct polls. In their minds, they would have done their job by trying to shape the race and creating crap to stick between commercials on cable news.
 
2012-05-20 09:24:14 PM  

The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii: The 1 point figure was adults........not even registered voters, let alone likely voters.

Registered voters favor Romney by 7....according to the article........and I suspect it's probably low double digits among people who will actually vote.

Nothing to see here, move along.


What the hell does that mean? People who actually vote only vote Republican?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-05-20 09:24:33 PM  
This actually speaks to the level of incompetence of the people involved with the Tennessee GOP at the county level.
 
2012-05-20 09:24:45 PM  

MeinRS6: Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.


In that case, Romney should be trouncing Obama in TN.

/I agree that Romney will more than likely win TN, but I see this as a sign that his religion may be hurting him in the South, a problem the McCain/Palin campaign didn't have to worry about. A lot will depend on his running mate.
 
2012-05-20 09:25:11 PM  

MeinRS6: thoughtless: Broseph, if polling methods were to be discarded based on their wild inaccuracies land-line polling would have already gone out of style.

\tinfoil time: people may have secondary motives when publishing polls

I agree. I've already posted before that I think every MSM poll between now and Nov will have Obama winning the election. If Romney ends up winning, none of those polling companies will be laughed out of business or even consider changing the way they conduct polls. In their minds, they would have done their job by trying to shape the race and creating crap to stick between commercials on cable news.


Worked for Rasmussen didn't it? ;)
 
2012-05-20 09:30:20 PM  

HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.

In that case, Romney should be trouncing Obama in TN.


I suppose I could repeat my previous posts another 100 times for you, but I think I'll just be fine with the fact that you don't get it.
 
2012-05-20 09:30:42 PM  

MeinRS6: I think every MSM poll between now and Nov will have Obama winning the election.


I think a lot of MSM polls will show a tight race, because that's better for their ratings. Oh wait, I'm thinking of the '08 election.
 
2012-05-20 09:34:57 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: FeedTheCollapse: cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.

Why can't it be both?

Romney to a lot of people is a liberal Rino heretic non-Christian flip flopping clueless dick.




I'm sure it can be both, but are there any polls to indicate explicitly that Mormonism is as big a factor as it's been made out to be? I'm sure it is a factor, but i'm willing to bet it boils down to general unlikability for Romney.
 
2012-05-20 09:35:07 PM  

MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.

In that case, Romney should be trouncing Obama in TN.

I suppose I could repeat my previous posts another 100 times for you, but I think I'll just be fine with the fact that you don't get it.


And you can just ignore the part my post where I tentatively agree with you.

/It's still somewhat of a bad sign for Romney.
 
2012-05-20 09:36:43 PM  
The one point difference was among "1,002 Tennessee residents who are 18 and older", they don't even have to be registered to vote. Polls like that are useless in predicting the outcome of an election. Even a poll of registered voters is of marginal utility. When you get to likely voters, that's when you can start to have some confidence that the poll tells something about what's going to happen.
 
2012-05-20 09:36:57 PM  

Mrtraveler01: What the hell does that mean? People who actually vote only vote Republican?


Old people don't have anything better to do with their lives. And it seems like all the long lines at polls they show on TV are all black people. I've never had to wait more than 5 minutes, more often than not I have no wait at all.
 
2012-05-20 09:37:44 PM  

Mrtraveler01: The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii: The 1 point figure was adults........not even registered voters, let alone likely voters.

Registered voters favor Romney by 7....according to the article........and I suspect it's probably low double digits among people who will actually vote.

Nothing to see here, move along.

What the hell does that mean? People who actually vote only vote Republican?


Actually, it means people who aren't registered (and those who are, but don't vote) overwhelmingly favor democrats. It's been that way for decades.
 
2012-05-20 09:39:50 PM  

FeedTheCollapse: Satanic_Hamster: FeedTheCollapse: cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.

Why can't it be both?

Romney to a lot of people is a liberal Rino heretic non-Christian flip flopping clueless dick.



I'm sure it can be both, but are there any polls to indicate explicitly that Mormonism is as big a factor as it's been made out to be? I'm sure it is a factor, but i'm willing to bet it boils down to general unlikability for Romney.


There was a poll a few months back in which the majority of Republicans said they'd have misgivings about a Mormon president, back when there were two Mormons still in the race. Which is weird, because Mormons are in lock-step with other conservative on most issues (particularly social issues), and Utah has been a solidly red state for a long time.
 
2012-05-20 09:42:46 PM  

HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: Nationally, I think it will be a tight race. In TN, not so much.

In that case, Romney should be trouncing Obama in TN.

I suppose I could repeat my previous posts another 100 times for you, but I think I'll just be fine with the fact that you don't get it.

And you can just ignore the part my post where I tentatively agree with you.

/It's still somewhat of a bad sign for Romney.


Ok, so you recognize that Obama will not win TN. That is Captain Obvious stuff.

But you still fail because you think that a meaningless and inaccurate poll in May is actual bad news for Romney. If a polling company puts out a poll that shows Obama down by 15pts in California - is that bad news for Obama or not to be taken seriously?
 
2012-05-20 09:42:53 PM  
I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.
 
2012-05-20 09:43:18 PM  

HighOnCraic: FeedTheCollapse: Satanic_Hamster: FeedTheCollapse: cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.

Why can't it be both?

Romney to a lot of people is a liberal Rino heretic non-Christian flip flopping clueless dick.



I'm sure it can be both, but are there any polls to indicate explicitly that Mormonism is as big a factor as it's been made out to be? I'm sure it is a factor, but i'm willing to bet it boils down to general unlikability for Romney.

There was a poll a few months back in which the majority of Republicans said they'd have misgivings about a Mormon president, back when there were two Mormons still in the race. Which is weird, because Mormons are in lock-step with other conservative on most issues (particularly social issues), and Utah has been a solidly red state for a long time.


I don't think it's weird. Christians don't like Mormons.
 
2012-05-20 09:43:38 PM  

MeinRS6: thoughtless: Broseph, if polling methods were to be discarded based on their wild inaccuracies land-line polling would have already gone out of style.

\tinfoil time: people may have secondary motives when publishing polls

I agree. I've already posted before that I think every MSM poll between now and Nov will have Obama winning the election. If Romney ends up winning, none of those polling companies will be laughed out of business or even consider changing the way they conduct polls. In their minds, they would have done their job by trying to shape the race and creating crap to stick between commercials on cable news.


I kinda agree with this but because I feel like those doing the polls are over representing Romney's electability so they won't project Obama winning by much. I'm torn if they'll offer accurate projections just before the election- on one hand an accurate prediction will win them credibility but on the other that would be their best chance to influence the results.

\also it feels gross kinda agreeing with you, could you do me a favor and vehemently disagree with me?
 
2012-05-20 09:44:34 PM  

Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.


You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.
 
2012-05-20 09:45:55 PM  
If Howard Dean were still in charge of the DNC, I could see a plausible argument for Dems using this news to turn some of those "adults" into registered voters, and convert some of those registered voters into likely voters, making Tennessee the Missouri of the 2012 election season. (Not something Obama will win, but worrying enough to distract his opponent and put in play for the next go round.) However, he's not, and Obama was eager to abandon the strategy at the end of 2008, so I doubt he's going to do much more than try to defend most states he got in 2012, unless Romney utterly farks up.
 
2012-05-20 09:48:11 PM  

thoughtless: \also it feels gross kinda agreeing with you, could you do me a favor and vehemently disagree with me?


I will work on being outraged about everything you have posted. Perhaps I should drink some whiskey.
 
2012-05-20 09:49:03 PM  

ActionJoe: Tad_Waxpole: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x600]

I really want to hope this is a troll poster and if it is I hope someone puts them up everywhere in the southern states.


Yes, please.
 
2012-05-20 09:52:00 PM  

MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.


I disagree. I think your southern conservative baptist will have issues voting for a Mormon.
 
2012-05-20 09:52:18 PM  
meh.
likely voters only polls that matter.
 
2012-05-20 09:53:03 PM  

MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.Southern Baptist, you know the people who even think Catholics aren't real Christians.


FTFY.

/By the way, I am sure you have a spectacular record of correct predictions. You have the maths.
 
2012-05-20 09:54:49 PM  

MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.

\

You are correct. It is not a problem facing the nation. It is a problem for Romney.
 
2012-05-20 09:57:00 PM  

AeAe: MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.

I disagree. I think your southern conservative baptist will have issues voting for a Mormon.


While I don't think they'll jump to Obama, they may not turn out as heavily, or consider a third party.
 
2012-05-20 09:58:00 PM  

HighOnCraic: AeAe: MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.

I disagree. I think your southern conservative baptist will have issues voting for a Mormon.

While I don't think they'll jump to Obama, they may not turn out as heavily, or consider a third party.


They'll probably just sit this one out.

Which will hurt Romney, because if he can't even whip up his own base, he's screwed.
 
2012-05-20 09:59:14 PM  

Gergesa: MeinRS6: Gergesa: I wonder what people like Tim Lahaye and Jenkins (Left behind authors) think of voting for a Mormon. They can't be happy about it. But how could they consider the other option? Could the actually urge the followers to vote for a mormon? It must be a source of tension.

You wanna know who wants to make this election about Mormonism?

Obama supporters.

However, Mormonism is not a big problem facing the nation.\

You are correct. It is not a problem facing the nation. It is a problem for Romney.


We get it, he's White.

another fark racist.
 
2012-05-20 10:01:14 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: We get it, he's White.


Hmmm managed to confuse race with religion eh? Well someday you will learn the difference between the two.
 
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