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2012-05-20 05:34:36 PM
If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians
 
2012-05-20 05:35:53 PM
cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

And before someone tries to bust my balls, I was speaking of southern conservatives. They won't vote for Obama anyways
 
2012-05-20 05:48:23 PM
Yeah, the bible belt is torn about voting for the Mormon.
 
2012-05-20 05:48:41 PM
You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.
 
2012-05-20 06:46:37 PM
Democratic Black Baptist > Republican White Mormon
 
2012-05-20 06:47:19 PM
Hmm, maybe the stupid shiat the state Congress has tried has actually backfired. Strange the poll found both Alexander and Corker with good approval too.
 
2012-05-20 06:49:26 PM
You stupid libs forget to factor in the power of Romney's magical underwear.
 
2012-05-20 06:49:34 PM
Wow. Sounds like Obama's newly announced stance on gay marriage is really hurting.

(It's actually only a 0.6% lead.)
 
2012-05-20 07:15:28 PM
FTFA: Geer cautioned that the registered voters among the poll participants favored Romney by a larger margin, with 47 percent saying they would vote for the former Massachusetts governor and 40 percent for Obama. He said that's a more likely outcome in November.

Perhaps. Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.
 
2012-05-20 07:51:54 PM
Somacandra: FTFA: Geer cautioned that the registered voters among the poll participants favored Romney by a larger margin, with 47 percent saying they would vote for the former Massachusetts governor and 40 percent for Obama. He said that's a more likely outcome in November.

Perhaps. Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.


Yeah, but they've been told they should be scared shirtless of Obama for reasons they can't possibly explain. They'll probably turn out anyway.
 
2012-05-20 07:53:19 PM
Somacandra: FTFA: Geer cautioned that the registered voters among the poll participants favored Romney by a larger margin, with 47 percent saying they would vote for the former Massachusetts governor and 40 percent for Obama. He said that's a more likely outcome in November.

Perhaps. Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.


Fear is the main thing that's going to motivate republicans and democrats alike. Fear will keep the locals in line.
 
2012-05-20 07:57:41 PM
This is bad news... for Al Gore.
 
2012-05-20 07:59:19 PM
dervish16108: Somacandra: FTFA: Geer cautioned that the registered voters among the poll participants favored Romney by a larger margin, with 47 percent saying they would vote for the former Massachusetts governor and 40 percent for Obama. He said that's a more likely outcome in November.

Perhaps. Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.

Fear is the main thing that's going to motivate republicans and democrats alike. Fear will keep the locals in line.


They have a Deathstar?
 
2012-05-20 08:00:24 PM
I, for one, would find it quite hilarious if Obama wins even one of the 'safe' Republican states. I might even listen to Rush Limbaugh that day, just to hear what a head exploding sounds like over the radio.
 
2012-05-20 08:03:06 PM
Fear?

Isn't it possible that people would come out to vote for change in the WH? There is such a thing as real disagreement with Obama and his policies. No fear required.

Romney has some of the same problems as McCain and that helps Obama on the national level. It won't make any difference in TN though. Obama will lose there by a lot of points.
 
2012-05-20 08:04:15 PM
Somacandra: Perhaps. Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.

True, but he was the best of the 3. Or 4 if you count Paul, or 6 if you add Perry and Cain. Or 12 if you add in random folks who couldn't get their engines started.
 
2012-05-20 08:05:16 PM
cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.
 
2012-05-20 08:05:36 PM
wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-05-20 08:08:01 PM
Tad_Waxpole: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x600]

I really want to hope this is a troll poster and if it is I hope someone puts them up everywhere in the southern states.
 
2012-05-20 08:09:02 PM
MeinRS6: You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.


So why isn't Romney way ahead now?

/If a poll of New Yorkers was just as close, even at this early stage, liberals would have a reason to be nervous.
 
2012-05-20 08:09:17 PM
FeedTheCollapse: cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.


Why can't it be both?

Romney to a lot of people is a liberal Rino heretic non-Christian flip flopping clueless dick.
 
2012-05-20 08:09:58 PM
Tad_Waxpole: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x600]

Heal thy land of the overweight, truck driving, country music listening hillbillies

The Dixie Chicks revenge commenceth
 
2012-05-20 08:10:28 PM
FeedTheCollapse: cman: If there is one thing you can count on it is the bigotry of the south. Romney is a Mormon and mormons are not exactly seen as proper Christians

I do wonder how much of this is bigotry against Mormons and how much of it is that Romney just isn't a very likable person.


/corporations are people too!
 
2012-05-20 08:11:01 PM
Pretty much this. Are they bigots? Yes. Do they hate Romney? Probably. Will they vote Obama for any reason? Never.
 
2012-05-20 08:11:20 PM
LordJiro: I, for one, would find it quite hilarious if Obama wins even one of the 'safe' Republican states. I might even listen to Rush Limbaugh that day, just to hear what a head exploding sounds like over the radio.

He's got a shot at Arizona I think.
 
2012-05-20 08:12:21 PM
Satanic_Hamster: Romney to a lot of people is a liberal Rino heretic non-Christian flip flopping clueless dick.

For may of the conservatives here in the west, you would be pretty much correct.

Though we also have a pretty large mormon population so he has that going for him, I guess.
 
2012-05-20 08:13:17 PM
Fifty state strategy is looking pretty good if Romney has to defend states like Tennessee.
 
2012-05-20 08:14:11 PM
MeinRS6: Obama will lose there by a lot of points.


Maybe, maybe not. But every time a Red State turns pink, Romney's going to need to devote time, people and money that would otherwise be better spent elsewhere.
 
2012-05-20 08:16:32 PM
I find it hilarious Republicans have to vote for Rmoney.

Karma is fun that way.
 
2012-05-20 08:18:05 PM
HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.

So why isn't Romney way ahead now?


Most likely because the polling method was crap.

You can look up the electoral map in TN in 2008 for yourself. Obama may even lose one of the counties that he barely picked off in '08. People aren't so fired up about his "hope & change" anymore.
 
2012-05-20 08:19:10 PM
grumpygrouper: MeinRS6: Obama will lose there by a lot of points.


Maybe, maybe not. But every time a Red State turns pink, Romney's going to need to devote time, people and money that would otherwise be better spent elsewhere.


red + blue = purple
 
2012-05-20 08:19:26 PM
This is the Obama victory strategy: paint Romney as too far to the right for the general electorate, and paint him as too far to the left to conservatives, so we will end up with Obama, who will destroy the US as we know it, since he doesn't have to worry about reelection in his 2nd term.
Oh, boy, we should be really afraid of a Romney presidency -- better to stay home and let Obama win...

 
2012-05-20 08:20:02 PM
These polls are bunk! This is such a slam-dunk for Obama it's not even funny.

The polling agencies NEED to create some tension in order to keep their money coming in. Same thing about the political media.

So, they take a "Well, DUH!" election and turn it into yet another nail-biting squeaker all the way up to November.
 
2012-05-20 08:20:54 PM
ActionJoe: Tad_Waxpole: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 500x600]

I really want to hope this is a troll poster and if it is I hope someone puts them up everywhere in the southern states.


Some SuperPAC or another should take that up and make it a nationwide, multimillion dollar ad campaign, including TV commercials, magazines, billboards, and posters. Anyone on the right who speaks up about it can be painted as denying God's power and glory, which I'm sure would go over great with their base. :D
 
2012-05-20 08:21:10 PM
MeinRS6:

You can look up the electoral map in TN in 2008 for yourself. Obama may even lose one of the counties that he barely picked off in '08. People aren't so fired up about his "hope & change" anymore.


Deep thoughts with MeinDerp.
 
2012-05-20 08:22:19 PM
Somacandra: Registered Republicans nationwide are not very happy or enthusiastic about their candidate. It will take an even higher level of magnitude of fear to motivate them to the polls.

i.imgur.com


/really, nobody else did this already?
 
2012-05-20 08:23:07 PM
MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.

So why isn't Romney way ahead now?

Most likely because the polling method was crap.

You can look up the electoral map in TN in 2008 for yourself. Obama may even lose one of the counties that he barely picked off in '08. People aren't so fired up about his "hope & change" anymore.


That Obama will lose TN is a no-brainer - he'd have to improve by double digits from '08, and that's not happening. On the other hand, whether he will do better or worse than '08 is anybody's guess at this point - it will be interesting to see.
 
2012-05-20 08:23:12 PM
Ed Finnerty: You stupid libs forget to factor in the power of Romney's magical underwear.

WTF is it with you rightards and the word "libs" all the time?
 
2012-05-20 08:23:43 PM
MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.

So why isn't Romney way ahead now?

Most likely because the polling method was crap.

You can look up the electoral map in TN in 2008 for yourself. Obama may even lose one of the counties that he barely picked off in '08. People aren't so fired up about his "hope & change" anymore.


And they're fired up with "Mittmentum".

/rolls eyes
 
2012-05-20 08:24:13 PM
MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: MeinRS6: You are jumping to a lot of conclusions there.

Romney will easily win TN. It won't even be close. His real problem in TN is that he isn't a real conservative and that hurts him there and suppresses the vote.

Obama will win the same couple of counties that he won in 2008 and that's it.

So why isn't Romney way ahead now?

Most likely because the polling method was crap.

You can look up the electoral map in TN in 2008 for yourself. Obama may even lose one of the counties that he barely picked off in '08. People aren't so fired up about his "hope & change" anymore.


Yet he's still polling well in TN, which he lost last time. Sure, a lot will change after the conventions, particularly based on who Romney picks as his running mate. A Southern evangelical VP will help solidify TN (but hurt him outside the South). But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.
 
2012-05-20 08:25:18 PM
Republicans are so fired up they posted these facts:

"As U.S. real output grew 13 percent between 2002 and 2006, Massachusetts trailed at 9 percent.
* Manufacturing employment fell 7 percent nationwide those years, but sank 14 percent under Romney, placing Massachusetts 48th among the states.
* Between fall 2003 and autumn 2006, U.S. job growth averaged 5.4 percent, nearly three times Massachusetts' anemic 1.9 percent pace.
* While 8 million Americans over age 16 found work between 2002 and 2006, the number of employed Massachusetts residents actually declined by 8,500 during those years.
"Massachusetts was the only state to have failed to post any gain in its pool of employed residents," professors Sum and McLaughlin concluded.
In an April 2003 meeting with the Massachusetts congressional delegation in Washington, Romney failed to endorse President Bush's $726 billion tax-cut proposal."
 
2012-05-20 08:26:44 PM
TV's Vinnie: Ed Finnerty: You stupid libs forget to factor in the power of Romney's magical underwear.

WTF is it with you rightards and the word "libs" all the time?


Not sure, but I think your sarcasm meter needs to be checked.
 
2012-05-20 08:28:29 PM
Oh my God! And the election is tomorrow!


0bama is going to win all 50 states now! It's in the bag!
 
2012-05-20 08:35:27 PM
Crude: Oh my God! And the election is tomorrow!


0bama is going to win all 50 states now! It's in the bag!


One more time: If a poll of New Yorkers was just as close, even at this early stage, liberals would have a reason to be nervous.

/But keep on going "The Boston gig's been canceled, but don't worry, it's not a big college town."
 
2012-05-20 08:40:54 PM
HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.
 
2012-05-20 08:41:48 PM
A couple of polls in Georgia in the past few months have also shown the state to be competitive. Romney just isn't a very likable fella. He's not someone you could have a beer with, not even a fancy elitist imported Belgian beer. Maybe a Sharps or O'Douls but even then he'd make you uncomfortable.

Doubt Obama will win Georgia or Tennessee but Romey will have to play defense which makes it easier for Obama to win the swing states.
 
2012-05-20 08:43:13 PM
MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.


Why?
 
2012-05-20 08:43:26 PM
4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?
 
2012-05-20 08:49:00 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: 4 years the Republican party had to come up with a viable alternative to Obama. If they can't find a decent candidate, how can they run a country?

I think the Republicans know that they won't/can't win this election. So instead of running a viable candidate, they are running Romney because they have to run someone.

They will wait for 2016 to run someone viable.
 
2012-05-20 08:50:25 PM
Mrtraveler01: MeinRS6: HighOnCraic: But it's kinds silly to say that this poll is bad news . . . For Obama.

I'm not saying that it's bad news for Obama. I'm just saying that it is a crap poll.

People are free to disagree with that, and we'll return to the subject again in Nov if they like. I don't think they'll want to talk about this poll after election day.

Why?


He has statisticals.
 
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