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(New Musical Express)   Black Sabbath makes triumphant live return in Birmingham. Forget Robert Downey Jr, Ozzy Osbourne is still Iron Man   (nme.com) divider line 60
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2012-05-20 02:51:30 PM
And he's still bringing the fight to you!
 
2012-05-20 02:58:28 PM
Ozzy is only Iron Man when Sharon allows it.
 
2012-05-20 03:11:10 PM
with drummer Tommy Clufetos

It's too bad Bill Ward is not with them.

/saw them in '78
//saw them with Dio
///want to see them again
 
2012-05-20 04:44:40 PM
Black Sabbath were always better without Ozzy. He's cancer to that band.
 
2012-05-20 04:46:17 PM

BloodFireDeath: Black Sabbath were always better without Ozzy. He's cancer to that band.


Yah, they should have hired Tony Orlando to sing War Pigs, that would have been awesome.
 
2012-05-20 04:47:58 PM
Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.
 
2012-05-20 04:51:58 PM

downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.


You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?
 
2012-05-20 04:54:23 PM
 
2012-05-20 04:55:37 PM

downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.


I wouldn't have changed a thing about that setlist. I was totally willing to call this a BS reunion without Bill Ward, but now hearing it I don't really care if Bill is involved or not. It's not like the original line-up hasn't performed without Ward before (I think they've done shows with Ozzy/Tony/Geezer with Mike Bordin and Vinny Appice behind the kit at different times).

/Get well soon Tony so we can get a real tour going
 
2012-05-20 05:04:16 PM

IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?


No, but at least interject some stuff you've never done before between the obvious stuff you have to play.
 
2012-05-20 05:09:11 PM
Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.
 
2012-05-20 05:15:32 PM

Precision Boobery: Link for the hardcore only


For a second I though you were going to link to a song from the Tony Martin days.

/Tyr and Headless Cross are good, but the 80s production on them is farking awful
 
2012-05-20 05:31:17 PM

doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.


But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?
 
2012-05-20 05:34:19 PM

Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?


Dehumanizer had some good songs on that album. So you shush.

Also this isn't Sabbath without Bill Ward.
 
2012-05-20 05:35:39 PM

downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.


What!?
Wheels of Confusion!
Behind the Wall of Sleep!
Lord of this World!
The Wizard!

I am a Sab freak...and I know they haven't pulled those out in a long time.
 
2012-05-20 05:44:12 PM

strangeguitar: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

What!?
Wheels of Confusion!
Behind the Wall of Sleep!
Lord of this World!
The Wizard!

I am a Sab freak...and I know they haven't pulled those out in a long time.


The two I bolded, that I'm surprised about. I thought those would be obvious and played often over the decades.

I love Black Sabbath, but wouldn't call myself a "freak"... so you probably know more about their history of live shows and setlists.

I guess what I'm saying is I like it when a band adds a cover or two or three that they do in a unique way to their setlist. Pearl Jam, for example, does a good job of this.
 
2012-05-20 05:48:19 PM

BloodFireDeath: Black Sabbath were always better without Ozzy Sharon. He's She's cancer to that band.


Who tops the list between her, Yoko and Gail Zappa?
 
2012-05-20 05:48:44 PM

Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?


images.cheezburger.com

/Dehumanizer is the reason I love metal.
//And it's better than anything Ozzy has shat out in the last 30 years or so.
 
2012-05-20 05:55:37 PM

strangeguitar: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

What!?
Wheels of Confusion!
Behind the Wall of Sleep!
Lord of this World!
The Wizard!

I am a Sab freak...and I know they haven't pulled those out in a long time.


Btwos, and wizard I've seen them play a few times. Wheels, and lotw not once. Sabbath bloody Sabbath is a rare treat live (once in the 6 times I've seen them) dio with black Sabbath was very good but ozzy with black Sabbath *is* black Sabbath.
 
2012-05-20 06:01:18 PM

Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?


I agree with NSD, but Dehumanizer IMHO is a great album. Dare I say it's better (as a whole) than The Devil You Know
 
2012-05-20 06:02:19 PM

downstairs: IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?

No, but at least interject some stuff you've never done before between the obvious stuff you have to play.


Why? You're farking Black Sabbath. Nobody wants to hear random shiat at your show.
 
2012-05-20 06:05:52 PM

downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.


LOL, yeah, you have not been to many Ozzy/Sabbath concerts. Usually it's the MOST boring predictable setlist ever - no surprises whatsoever. GREATEST HITS.

/saw them try Dirty Women about 7 years ago
//Ozzy threw the mic down and stomped off stage
//announced his retirement the next day
/came back...
 
2012-05-20 06:07:02 PM

AcneVulgaris: downstairs: IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?

No, but at least interject some stuff you've never done before between the obvious stuff you have to play.

Why? You're farking Black Sabbath. Nobody wants to hear random shiat at your show.


I do. As a Sab fanatic, I'd love to hear some deep cuts...
 
2012-05-20 06:07:47 PM
If they could pull it off, that is. Big if...

/and by "they," I mean Ozzy...
 
2012-05-20 06:20:01 PM

Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?


You think Dehumanizer is worse than Forbidden? Really?

/"I" is one of Sabbath's best songs
 
2012-05-20 06:23:31 PM
It always struck me as odd that the least talented (by far) member of the band gained (by far) the most amount of noteriety.

Obviously referring to Ozzy. Forgetting lines, being out of time and generally making a mess of things was his forte. Kind of like David Lee Roth I suppose.
 
2012-05-20 06:37:49 PM
Actually Tony Iommi is the Iron Man, if you read his new bio. He's the one who kept that whole show rolling for 40 years.

/never mind when he set Bill on fire... twice
 
2012-05-20 06:50:14 PM

basemetal: with drummer Tommy Clufetos

It's too bad Bill Ward is not with them.

/saw them in '78
//saw them with Dio
///want to see them again


I saw them on that same tour. It was a really great show. They seemed reinvigorated after dealing with spaceball Ozzy.
 
2012-05-20 07:33:11 PM

Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?


If you're trolling I give you a 10/10. Dehumanizer was a highly underrated album.
 
2012-05-20 07:48:11 PM

doglover: Sad Dio is dead.

He was part of Black Sabbath too.


Not according to the official discography...
 
2012-05-20 07:48:58 PM

thetrenchcoat: Evilsmurf: doglover: Sad Dio is dead.


He was part of Black Sabbath too.

But he wasn't part of this Sabbath. I actually honestly consider Dio era and Ozzy era 2 different bands. And isn't it funny that the 2 classic singers for Sabbath (Ozzy and Dio) produced the two worst sabbath albums IMO (Never Say Die and Dehumanizer respectively)?

If you're trolling I give you a 10/10. Dehumanizer was a highly underrated album.


And there is a decent album to be made from Technical Ecstasy and Never Say Die IMO. Those albums have an undeserved bad rep.
 
2012-05-20 07:52:54 PM
BILL WARD is the new RON PAUL in every Back Stabbath thread.

BILL WARD
 
2012-05-20 07:57:45 PM

CognaciousThunk: Actually Tony Iommi is the Iron Man, if you read his new bio. He's the one who kept that whole show rolling for 40 years.

/never mind when he set Bill on fire... twice


Bill didn't need that beard anyway. I haven't read Iommis' bio but I did read How Black was our Sabbath, written by a couple long time roadies for Sabbath. A bit boring but had some funny anecdotes.

There was a link at the bottom of the article about Bill Ward and why he wasn't with them. Apparently he got a little outrageous(or his agent did) on conract negotiations but who the hell knows.
 
2012-05-20 07:59:10 PM

Dee Snarl: AcneVulgaris: downstairs: IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?

No, but at least interject some stuff you've never done before between the obvious stuff you have to play.

Why? You're farking Black Sabbath. Nobody wants to hear random shiat at your show.

I do. As a Sab fanatic, I'd love to hear some deep cuts...


Unlikely since Ozzy is probably sick of hearing from that - oh wait, C U T - never mind.
 
2012-05-20 08:29:03 PM

downstairs: IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?

No, but at least interject some stuff you've never done before between the obvious stuff you have to play.


This is one of the reason Alice Cooper is awesome. He always puts new stuff in every concert and switches out half the set list with other classics. He really only keeps the big 6-8 songs the casual fans want to hear.


Also, Sharon being petty, check out the Black Sabbath Website. They pulled the ex-girlfriend clipped photo shiat


i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-20 09:05:39 PM

IAMANOGRE: downstairs: Well that was a pretty predictable playlist.

You were hoping they would cover Air Supply and REO Speedwagon?


Ohm, yeah. Ozzy singing "All Out of Love".
 
2012-05-20 09:17:01 PM
Old School Black Sabbath? THIS is old school.

Link
 
2012-05-20 09:38:07 PM

hbk72777:
Also, Sharon being petty, check out the Black Sabbath Website. They pulled the ex-girlfriend clipped photo shiat


[i49.tinypic.com image 639x345]


According to a very solid source for metal news, this was done at Bill's request.
 
2012-05-20 09:39:40 PM
www.biography.com

Oh, hey guys! I heard you were talking about the Iron Man!

...

...

...oh. Nevermind...
 
2012-05-20 09:55:37 PM
My favorite Iron Man cover:
The Cardigans
 
2012-05-20 10:13:34 PM
I like that the set list is pulling out chestnuts like "Under The Sun" and "Wheels Of Confusion". I have my ticket to the Lollapalooza gig in August and I just hope those songs stay in the set!
 
2012-05-20 10:40:39 PM

h2ogate: My favorite Iron Man cover:
The Cardigans


That drummer clearly thinks he's in a different band.
 
2012-05-20 10:42:01 PM
 
2012-05-20 10:57:44 PM
Sabbath was immeasurably better with Dio.

Ozzy is the weakest link in any project, including his own self-titled albums. Whenever an 80s-era Ozzy song comes on the radio, the wife and I say "hey, it's Zakk Wylde. Too bad his singer was so bad."
 
2012-05-20 11:03:22 PM

clkeagle: Sabbath was immeasurably better with Dio.

Ozzy is the weakest link in any project, including his own self-titled albums. Whenever an 80s-era Ozzy song comes on the radio, the wife and I say "hey, it's Zakk Wylde. Too bad his singer was so bad."


You're doing it wrong. That assface only played on one 80s Ozzy album. You're thinking of the 90s, or you're (probably) thinking of Randy Rhoads or Jake E. Lee....
 
2012-05-20 11:14:47 PM
Mike Bordin, longtime drummer for FNM and Ozzy, should've filled in on drums.
 
2012-05-20 11:59:15 PM
You're doing it wrong. That assface only played on one 80s Ozzy album. You're thinking of the 90s, or you're (probably) thinking of Randy Rhoads or Jake E. Lee....

(quick Wiki surfing)

Huh, look at that. Shows how interested I've been on Ozzy's career, considering I'm the type who can map personnel changes in Rainbow, Deep Purple, and a half dozen otheer bands chronologically from memory. :)
 
2012-05-21 12:07:24 AM
So should we turn this into the SHMHC thread?
 
2012-05-21 12:53:22 AM
saw black sabbath and bloodrock in dayton's hara arena around 1972 or so. i was 16. a few qualuudes were being bandied about the arena. a thousands joints were lit simultaniously as the sabs took the stage. ozzy, as usual, was kinda out of it and did more jumping around and raising his arms than real rock and roll singing. but the band were some motherfarkers, and the songs from the first two albums still resonate in what's left of my brain. fairies wear boots was my favorite
 
2012-05-21 12:58:24 AM

CZMisfitsFan: So should we turn this into the SHMHC thread?


Absolutely. The stupid in this thread is reaching critical mass.

Primordial
Unmothered
And just to piss off the Rush nerds, Working Man, doom style
 
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