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(Seattle Times)   "Subby," you scream through the Oreo and Dorito crumbs caked over your mouth. "Slideshows are Satan's web pages." Oh well, enjoy the slideshow of millennial failure anyway   (seattletimes.nwsource.com) divider line 134
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2012-05-20 11:42:46 AM
Some slideshows aren't so bad. The ones that load a whole new page that is largely identical to the previous one are the ones that really suck. I really don't mind the ones that pop up that you can flick though.
 
2012-05-20 12:41:49 PM
Some of those people need to stop looking for jobs and start making their own.

Especially that interior designer.
 
2012-05-20 12:42:30 PM
That kind of slide show isn't bad. The ones that reload the entire page suck


That being said. What kind of story was that? Five pictures of jobless people.
 
2012-05-20 12:45:30 PM
No, dude. Screw you and screw your slideshow.
 
2012-05-20 12:49:31 PM
FTA:
seattletimes.nwsource.com
Danny Nguyen is job hunting again after a fulltime position as an aide to a state representative ended two months ago.

You win some, you lose some.
 
2012-05-20 12:50:24 PM
Why yes, they do look like real people.
 
2012-05-20 12:51:21 PM
Enlist.
 
2012-05-20 12:51:23 PM
Tentacle: FTA:

Danny Nguyen is job hunting again after a fulltime position as an aide to a state representative ended two months ago.

You win some, you lose some.


No joke. Did you really bank in a career on the whims of the voting populace?
 
2012-05-20 12:54:28 PM
yes, no, no, no, after several beers, yes
 
2012-05-20 12:56:40 PM
I'm suree that any of the fine young women pictured could find employment in the lucrative sex trade sector. I hear it's booming.
 
2012-05-20 01:00:48 PM
Ludendorff's Ghost: Enlist.

That is not even an easy thing to do anymore. You can sit around waiting for a year before being shipped off to basic.
 
2012-05-20 01:02:19 PM
Tentacle: FTA:
[seattletimes.nwsource.com image 480x320]
Danny Nguyen is job hunting again after a fulltime position as an aide to a state representative ended two months ago.

You winNguyen some, you lose some.


ftfy
 
2012-05-20 01:02:28 PM
Wow, Subby, you might want to seek some help for that bitterness issue. Goodness.

;)
 
2012-05-20 01:02:58 PM
wax_on: I'm suree that any of the fine young women pictured could find employment in the lucrative sex trade sector. I hear it's booming.

Not true at all, they're in a recession too. The ladies in Amsterdam have even broken with the unwritten rule that nobody charges less than 50 euro for a suck and fark and are offering competitive discounts.
 
2012-05-20 01:03:20 PM
Ludendorff's Ghost: Enlist.

That's the plan. If safe, high-paying jobs were plentiful and education was cheap, we couldn't keep an all-volunteer Army.
 
2012-05-20 01:03:21 PM
After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.
 
2012-05-20 01:05:25 PM
jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.


Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?
 
2012-05-20 01:05:51 PM
Yea, because you couldn't do the exact same slideshow about Gen Xers who got laid off 10 years ago after the dot-com bust and then got laid off again in the past few years. And you surely couldn't make a slideshow like that about the current Baby Boomers that got laid off and can't find jobs because they're too old.

/lacking sleep and judgmental
 
2012-05-20 01:06:02 PM
That millennial doesn't trust big business to give job security. What a stupid thing to say. You make your own job security by being the best. If I get laid off, I'll get a higher-paying job because I'm a very profitable employee. That's happened three times. Get very good at something lucrative. Or cry. Your choice.
 
2012-05-20 01:09:20 PM
Wangiss: If I get laid off, I'll get a higher-paying job because I'm a very profitable employee. That's happened three times.

You don't sound that profitable...
 
2012-05-20 01:11:42 PM
Most boring slideshow ever.
 
2012-05-20 01:13:01 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


I'm sure the teachers or teachers' spouses will be along shortly to edumucate you why.
 
2012-05-20 01:13:16 PM
roothog: Wangiss: If I get laid off, I'll get a higher-paying job because I'm a very profitable employee. That's happened three times.

You don't sound that profitable...


No, I accept that getting laid off three times doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad employee. Some industries are like that.

Insisting repeatedly and smugly that you're an awesome employee, on the other hand...
 
2012-05-20 01:13:22 PM
I'm left-leaning but it irks me that self-acknowledged left-leaning media like MSNBC talks endlessly about all kinds of inequality but never ever seems to look at the effect of individual decisions on income, employment, and general social standing.
 
2012-05-20 01:17:13 PM
You mean it's difficult out there just like when I graduated back in 79 ?
 
2012-05-20 01:19:23 PM
I actually liked that slideshow.

Not the content, as it's pretty easy to find jobless people; more than half of all people don't have jobs.

But the website design was good and the photos were too.
 
2012-05-20 01:19:38 PM
cdn.theatlantic.com
 
2012-05-20 01:20:57 PM
no.
 
2012-05-20 01:22:43 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


because a secondary education degree from a WA state uni is a 6yr program... it's a neat little racket.
 
2012-05-20 01:23:47 PM
Yeah, college graduates unable to find gainful employment because rich assholes broke the economy sure is hilarious.
 
2012-05-20 01:25:49 PM
hey baybee i got a job you can do. a BLOW job amirite???
seattletimes.nwsource.com
 
2012-05-20 01:26:58 PM
How in the fark did this get green-lighted?
/Answered my own question
 
2012-05-20 01:27:23 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


Because you get paid a lot more if you have a master's degree. Why do you hate people for maximizing their income?
 
2012-05-20 01:28:27 PM
Parthenogenetic: roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?

I'm sure the teachers or teachers' spouses will be along shortly to edumucate you why.


1. Higher degree = higher salary
2. Some locations are now requiring that you either have a masters' or be in process of getting one. New York for instance.
 
2012-05-20 01:28:37 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


In many states it is required. When you get your bachelor's degree and obtain your teaching certificate it is only good for so many years (usually 5-10) At the end of that time you need a Master's degree (or equivalent graduate credits) to renew your certificate. No certificate, no job.

And I agree that education is a loser's field. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to go into education. You can't really make a living in that field any more because the requirements to keep your job outweigh the income (see: federal race to the top program in addition to cuts in most states of salaries and benefits)

If you or someone you know wants to go into education - tell them no. They are better off working at McDonalds (and sadly that isn't hyperbole).
 
2012-05-20 01:29:27 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


You get a higher salary if you have a masters degree. Plus, if you don't find a job the first year out of school., getting the masters buys you some time until the county can raise taxes on landowners.

It does appear to be a bit of cock though. In my county, you MUST get a masters degree after a certain number of years, or your license expires.
 
2012-05-20 01:29:38 PM
Let's see if I can do this Fark-style.

1. Subby, you got a problem with somebody eating Doritos and Oreos at the same time?
2. Satan is the invention of civilzation-crushing evil religions. Go away with your sky fairies and devils and whatnot.
3. All those people studied worthless things like English, philosophy, music, and history, whereas I studied engineering and now have a lucrative job, a huge house, and so much money that I light my cigars off $100 bills. I am definitely not 35, living in my parents' basement, and taking a break from whichever MMORPG I'm addicted to right now.
4. I'd hit that one chick, if she paid me like 20 million dollars.
 
2012-05-20 01:29:47 PM
 
2012-05-20 01:31:26 PM
We just fired an intern, so I'm getting a big kick out of these comments.
 
2012-05-20 01:32:09 PM
jayphat: Tentacle: FTA:

Danny Nguyen is job hunting again after a fulltime position as an aide to a state representative ended two months ago.

You win some, you lose some.

No joke. Did you really bank in a career on the whims of the voting populace?


That is what I was thinking, especially working as an aide to a representative. You may only have a 2 year position.
 
2012-05-20 01:33:50 PM
roothog: Wangiss: If I get laid off, I'll get a higher-paying job because I'm a very profitable employee. That's happened three times.

You don't sound that profitable...


I can't keep facebook from closing down its Deals venture all by me onesies. I can't keep Yellowpages.com from committing suicide six ways simultaneously. I can't keep an unnamed business from choosing nepotism over profit in a merger. But what I can do is be the best applicant for my next, higher-paying job.
 
2012-05-20 01:37:28 PM
NowhereMon
Some slideshows aren't so bad. [..]. I really don't mind the ones that pop up that you can flick though.


are easy to deslide - like the linked one, for example:

www.clusterfake.net

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Hazen High School grad Katie Spangler landed a rewarding position two months ago at the Washington State Bar Association, but budget cuts may soon send her back into the job market.

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Tony Washington works as a web content manager and attends Edmonds Community College. "I really don't have any faith that big business will give me any job security," he said.

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Jason Page and his wife Stacey, right, live in the basement of his parents' house with son Maddox, 23 months, and daughter Peyton, born April 22.

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Danny Nguyen is job hunting again after a fulltime position as an aide to a state representative ended two months ago.

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After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

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Shawna Crawford earned a degree in interior design after graduating from Hazen. Unable to find a job in the field, she has given up on her childhood dream.
 
2012-05-20 01:38:58 PM
xalres: Yeah, college graduates unable to find gainful employment because rich assholes broke the economy sure is hilarious.

Every generation says this...
 
2012-05-20 01:39:14 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


Pay scales can vary pretty heavily depending on the degree you have (for example, in Seattle having a masters seems to be worth both about $7,000 a year in starting salary and a fair amount more in terms of having your salary cap out higher). Even with the loans I think she'll come out ahead in the long run if she stays long enough.
 
2012-05-20 01:39:59 PM
Pffft. It's Hazen High in Renton. The job market consists of tweaker, gangster, hooker, street-corner window-washer, dealer, pusher, addict, thief, bum, and city council member. The average worker has three jobs in a 30-yr career. In this economic market, it's six, with long periods of bumming in between. Be ready to change jobs often, 'cause yer gonna have to.

I'm retired and not in this mess, but I've got a word for ya. If you trust the company to provide work and maintain your retirement fund, yer gonna be broke at 60yo. Unless you control your retirement funds, your later years are gonna suck. Get an IRA and continue to donate monthly. Add a college fund for each kid +1 (It'll come in handy, you'll see.) Make sure your spouse has a retirement fund of their own 'cause two can't live as cheaply as one, no matter what she says. ...And be sure to have a $10K along with the above if ya wanna live good.
 
2012-05-20 01:40:47 PM
kukukupo: If you or someone you know wants to go into education - tell them no. They are better off working at McDonalds (and sadly that isn't hyperbole).

www.wearysloth.com
You gotta make it to assistant manager. That's when the big bucks start rolling in.
 
2012-05-20 01:41:30 PM
Abox: I'm left-leaning but it irks me that self-acknowledged left-leaning media like MSNBC talks endlessly about all kinds of inequality but never ever seems to look at the effect of individual decisions on income, employment, and general social standing.

What he said.
 
2012-05-20 01:43:07 PM
roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?


Why do you get that Masters in Education to teach math? How about studying math and then you won't have to have your students' parents explain to you why your assignment could not be done using what is included in the 7th grade text book, as well as explain the concepts you don't quite understand yourself.

/my kid had an assignment that, to be done properly, required trig
//i showed him how to do the trig
///the teacher then marked off because she couldn't understand the math and had never heard of any of the terms used
 
2012-05-20 01:43:16 PM
kevinatilusa: $7,000 a year in starting salary and a fair amount more in terms of having your salary cap out higher

I hope you mean $7,000 more.
 
2012-05-20 01:45:01 PM
SharkTrager: roothog: jeffowl: After earning a master's in teaching, Stephanie Melrose is living back home with her parents so she can repay her college loans faster. She is a math teacher at Rainier Beach High School.

That one is not a failure. She has a job in her field and she is paying back her loans.

Winners don't go into education. And why do you get a master's degree to teach at a high school?

Why do you get that Masters in Education to teach math? How about studying math and then you won't have to have your students' parents explain to you why your assignment could not be done using what is included in the 7th grade text book, as well as explain the concepts you don't quite understand yourself.

/my kid had an assignment that, to be done properly, required trig
//i showed him how to do the trig
///the teacher then marked off because she couldn't understand the math and had never heard of any of the terms used


Is this really how it works? There's math teachers out there who don't have a degree in math?
 
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