Done in one. By the time elections roll around these people will be convinced that the GOP came riding in on a white horse to save the day from those evil libruls trying to destroy their beloved city.

But government can't do anything good, right? Ronnie Reagan said so!

unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

In that part of MO, they will. Because people down there think that's the only way they'll get into heaven.

Although not all assholes are republicans, I am certain that all republicans are assholes.

Can someone link me where the GOP tried to block the federal aide and why?

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It was the deadliest tornado since modern record keeping began in 1950 and the seventh-deadliest in U.S. history, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

Why does God hate Missouri?

"The flowers were a blessing."

I totally read that in Ned Flander's voice.

Great now God's gonna send another tornado to punish them for their socialism.

skilbride:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/13/senate-republicans-block-fema-d i saster-relief-funds/

My appreciation for the existence of the GOP sank to new lows when they moved to block federal aid for Joplin. There is literally no act too disgusting for them to stoop to when it comes to playing politics.

And yet Missouri will vote GOP in the election.

I'm glad Mitt Romney came up with this. Excellent plan, Mitt. America salutes you.

They didn't want it blocked completely, they just wanted it paid for, and demanded that the payment come in the form of spending cuts to departments which would not impact their major contributors' bottom lines. What's so wrong about that?

Vangor: sirgrim: I'm glad Mitt Romney came up with this. Excellent plan, Mitt. America salutes you.

Bet we can find footage of him saying the tornado was a good idea, just to cover the pro-natural disaster voting block.

Tornadoes are just God's market forces. Stop being a commie.

Stopheles: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/09/13/senate-republicans-block-fema-d i saster-relief-funds/

So - this is how I understand it....

We had so many natural disasters that year that FEMA didn't have enough money to stay in Joplin 3 months after it occurred and pulled their resources to go handle the fall out from hurricane Irene on the North East.

I have a serious question - how long is FEMA supposed to stay in an area before it's the states responsibility to handle things?

I know when I worked at DC's EMA the goal was for an natural disaster to have FEMA in and out in under month and allow the district to take control - but I'm not quite sure what other states do.

cchris_39: unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

Compare the Joplin recovery to New Orleans. One will vote GOP no matter what and the other will vote Dem no matter what.

I'll take those Joplin folks any day of the week.

/grew up there
//go Eagles!

So, you're stupid and pay no attention to which party tries to help and which one would tell your relatives and friends to go fark themselves. Got it.

Why did they try to block it in the first place? Freedom? Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.

skilbride: Can someone link me where the GOP tried to block the federal aide and why?

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http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/may/23/cantor- l earns-delays-lesson-disaster-spending/

In short, aid to Joplin had to be paid for with offsetting spending cuts, but aid to the Gulf in the wake of Katrina was fine with being tacked onto the deficit.

Well sure, it would have been nice if aid could have had bipartisan support. Sure that would have been nice. It would have been great if Cantor hadn't tried to score points off of sending aid to Americans who had just lost their homes. But if I don't vote GOP gay people might get married, and that is just gross.

you are a puppet: Why did they try to block it in the first place?

Because socialism and not bootstrappy.

just remember, the GOP cares about YOU!!!


disclaimer: unless you reside in the bottom 95% income/wealth bracket of the nation.

Serious Black: skilbride: Can someone link me where the GOP tried to block the federal aide and why?

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http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/may/23/cantor- l earns-delays-lesson-disaster-spending/

In short, aid to Joplin had to be paid for with offsetting spending cuts, but aid to the Gulf in the wake of Katrina was fine with being tacked onto the deficit.

Joplin wasn't important enough, politically, despite their national disaster, and could therefore be used as a bargaining chip to further weaken funding for social supports. Louisiana, on the other hand, was too big to screw around with, and Republicans were aching to make political hay with that national disaster.

Not that it matters. The Wheel of FUD will, of course, celebrate the fact that the GOP came to the rescue of the citizens of Joplin, even though the facts clearly demonstrate that the Republicans couldn't give a rat's raw rectum about them and didn't do a damned thing to help them.

cchris_39: Compare the Joplin recovery to New Orleans. One will vote GOP no matter what and the other will vote Dem no matter what.

I'll take those Joplin folks any day of the week.

New Orleans had a horrible time because they don't understand how FEMA works. (Again, calling on my experience at EMA for DC here.)

So FEMA comes in, and the state is already supposed to have a plan on how to handle whatever natural disaster occurred. What FEMA brings is the people and supplies to get shiat done quicker than the state could do it self. Part of the problem with New Orleans specifically is that they were like "OH shiat, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN!" - and in addition, took a while to actually request that FEMA come in to begin with. (Probably should have had the request in as a precaution before Katrina ever made landfall.) Anyways, FEMA got there and was like, "We're supposed to have a plan for you? We don't know what you have, what you don't, and where your resources are!" And New Orleans was like, "Oh shiat, we thought you just came in and saved the day." It's tragic really how unprepared they were for Katrina considering everyone knew it was going to happen one day.

This is why New Orleans had a super slow recovery - even when you compare it to other areas hit by Katrina.

Flatulent_Flea: skilbride: This is why New Orleans had a super slow recovery -

You know very little about the reality of the situation. Virtually none of what you stated is accurate. Sounds like Limbaugh.

How Stuff Works - FEMA

So, are you telling me that FEMA is supposed to have a plan for every single city, in every single state?

Flatulent_Flea: Also, I have never seen you before yesterday and suddenly you're in here concern trolling like a pro. What gives?

I've been around fark for years. I just come and go based on how much free time I have. This weekend I have a lot :)

unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

Came here to say, too bad it was wasted on Joplin.

unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

I'd put money on them blaming Obama for any delay in disaster relief funds.

unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

Sometimes you would think that some people LIKE to make themselves suffer. Its like living in a wildfire-prone area and gleefully voting for the party that will continually make cuts and reduce the fire department.

Will the GOP's War on Americans never end?

LouDobbsAwaaaay: unlikely: Bible-belt Joplin likely to vote overwhelmingly republican anyway.

I'd put money on them blaming Obama for any delay in disaster relief funds.

They probably blame Obama FOR the tornado.

Flatulent_Flea: skilbride:

As a former employee of a state agency that dealt directly with FEMA and hurricane response/recovery I'm not going to consider howstuffworks.com an authority on the matter.

So which state, because I'm basing a lot of what I know on how the district interacts with FEMA and the plans we had to have in place in case of a disaster - including but not limited to: earthquakes, hurricanes, a terrorist attack and tornadoes. DC also has a person who is aware of these plans in the event something is going to happen and is ready to step up as the FCO in the case something happens.

William Lokey was the FCO for Louisiana in the wake of Katrina - did he have any experience or knowledge, did Louisiana have someone who did? There's almost nothing on him online about what he did in the wake of Katrina. (Besides the fact that there's nothing on him online.)

Sure would be nice if some Super PAC were to run commercials that lists times the GOP were against things that helped everyday people in trouble and then list the number of times they pushed for tax cuts for the entitled rich, like Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. If they could get a photo of Kim Kardashian as the guest of FOX News as a part of the commercial, that would be perfect.

Lost Thought 00: They didn't want it blocked completely, they just wanted it paid for, and demanded that the payment come in the form of spending cuts to departments which would not impact their major contributors' bottom lines. What's so wrong about that?

The Iraq War was more optional and incomparably more expensive than Joplin and Republicans did not demand it be paid for. This, by the way, invalidates all Republican demands that anything be paid for. Even if they might correctly identify discretionary spending that actually should be paid for, they're not the ones who should be listened to about it.

hammettman: Dear dumbass, I'm sure your experience, which you call upon eloquently, working at an EMA uniquely qualifies you to judge why New Orleans has not recovered as fast as Joplin from their respective disasters. Notwithstanding your superior credentials, the crap you are trying to pass as informed thought is some of the stupidest shiat imaginable, and, wow, what do you know, a line by line parroting of GOP talking points re: the massive fail by the Bush administration. Katrina was the largest natural disaster in US history, so why not, blame the city for FEMA not being able to get in and out in month. Perhaps you should publish your theory of why NOLA had such a slow recovery on Breitbart.

So - are you saying the reason Katrina recovery is slower is simply because it was the largest natural disaster in US history? (Which by the way, it wasn't.) Because last I heard, you were blasting the Bush administration for FEMA's failures and saying it had nothing to do with the state.

They had a HORRIBLE plan. They didn't do the evacuation call early enough, they didn't have the supplies that they needed (and those that they did have came from fema) and when FEMA got there they were like "WHY CAN'T YOU FIX THIS?"

You know, a good example of this is Irene. Irene could have caused much more damage and caused much more death than it did - but the east coast has PLANS FOR THIS shiat. We have buses ready to help the immobile in the case of a mandatory evacuation, we have centers set up for people to stay, and supplies - all before FEMA even comes in.

The reason New Orleans is slow to recover is because they knew the big bad wolf was coming one day but still built their house of sticks and pretended it wasn't going to happen up until it did.

you are a puppet: Why did they try to block it in the first place? Freedom? Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose.

Don't they know they Should Get It While You Can? They should Try (Just a Little Bit Harder) next time. The GOP have just been like a Ball and Chain to these guys. They should just say Bye Bye Baby before they get the Kozmic Blues.

/What, you started it?