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(WCNC Charlotte)   Jeeps are hotter than ever... LITERALLY   (wcnc.com) divider line 41
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2012-05-20 12:21:27 AM  
Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.
 
2012-05-20 01:11:42 AM  
14 incidents in 2 years isn't too bad.
 
2012-05-20 01:41:59 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: 14 incidents in 2 years isn't too bad.


Statistically speaking, you're right. But FIREY DEATH! is a pretty crappy ad slogan.
 
2012-05-20 01:47:10 AM  

ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.


My thoughts exactly.
 
2012-05-20 02:11:08 AM  

ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.


/thread
//But that six-speed in the new ones rivals only the BA 10/5 in sucktitude
 
2012-05-20 02:28:16 AM  
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2012-05-20 02:31:50 AM  
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2012-05-20 02:32:25 AM  
I wish that could have been Boobies.
 
2012-05-20 03:00:38 AM  
Man, it pisses me off when comapnies know of issues like this and ignore them.

8 or 9 years ago, my father in law was taking his motorhome into Phx to see if he could sell it. He stopped on the side of the freeway for something, noticed smoke coming from the engine compartment, and got the fark out of there. He barely had time to get the Jeep he happened to be towing of the back, and away from the motorhome before it was completely engulfed. He said that if he had needed to get anyone else organized and out of there, they wouldn't have made it, it went up that fast. When the fire department showed up, one of the firefighters told him that the motorhomes with Ford engines were catching fire like this all over the place, a wiring issue with the fuel injection, or something like this. Never a recall, nothing, he was out 1 motorhome, and luckily no lives, yet nobody issued any kind of recall on this.

Total bullshiat. I'm not really a litigious person, but I can guarantee you that if something happens to me or my family and I find out that it was a known problem that the company just hoped would go away, I will sue the farking fark out of those people, and not rest until they have to dig up grandpa and remove his gold tooth to help cover expenses.
 
2012-05-20 03:25:07 AM  
Oh man, I hate when people misuse "literally!" You mean metaphorically you....!

...Oh.

Carry on then.
 
2012-05-20 03:46:04 AM  
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This is how I felt when I junked mine after an accident.
 
2012-05-20 04:21:09 AM  
I've always wanted a Jeep but have refused to buy one because of the shiatty build quality.
 
2012-05-20 04:53:55 AM  

Mikey1969: Man, it pisses me off when comapnies know of issues like this and ignore them.

8 or 9 years ago, my father in law was taking his motorhome into Phx to see if he could sell it. He stopped on the side of the freeway for something, noticed smoke coming from the engine compartment, and got the fark out of there. He barely had time to get the Jeep he happened to be towing of the back, and away from the motorhome before it was completely engulfed. He said that if he had needed to get anyone else organized and out of there, they wouldn't have made it, it went up that fast. When the fire department showed up, one of the firefighters told him that the motorhomes with Ford engines were catching fire like this all over the place, a wiring issue with the fuel injection, or something like this. Never a recall, nothing, he was out 1 motorhome, and luckily no lives, yet nobody issued any kind of recall on this.

Total bullshiat. I'm not really a litigious person, but I can guarantee you that if something happens to me or my family and I find out that it was a known problem that the company just hoped would go away, I will sue the farking fark out of those people, and not rest until they have to dig up grandpa and remove his gold tooth to help cover expenses.


Many of the fires have been ruled "inconclusive". When NewsChannel 36 challenged Chrysler over the "grass fire" explanation, they called I-Team Reporter Bill McGinty's reporting "terrible" and told him "you're making a mess of this."
 
2012-05-20 05:00:54 AM  
God hates me and wants me to suffer.
 
2012-05-20 05:57:19 AM  

ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.


You obviously don't do any rockcrawling.
/Standard tranny but definitely see the benefit in an automatic
 
2012-05-20 07:12:08 AM  
FTA:"U.S. safety regulators say the recall affects only Wranglers from the 2010 model year with automatic transmissions. Debris can get caught between a transmission plate and the catalytic converter, causing a fire. "

Clean the crap out of your Jeep once in awhile, ok?
 
2012-05-20 07:55:39 AM  

ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.


Or one of those four-door abominations. A proper Jeep is either (a) a two-door, three-pedal Wrangler; or (b) an older Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer with the slant-six engine and at least a quarter-million miles on the clock.

Everything else is just a tarted-up Dodge.
 
2012-05-20 08:06:30 AM  
Chrysler told Pyrock and NewsChannel 36, it was caused by debris from a recent off roading trip.

100% of female jeep owners have nothing to worry about.
 
2012-05-20 08:27:11 AM  
I guess the "What you do when nobody is looking" marketing statement on the 200 doesn't apply when someone is actually looking.

/Chrysler sucks. Fiat does seem to enjoy it.
 
2012-05-20 08:30:56 AM  
A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. It catches fire. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.
 
2012-05-20 10:05:44 AM  
I don't understand.
 
2012-05-20 10:16:33 AM  

Robo Beat: ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.

Or one of those four-door abominations. A proper Jeep is either (a) a two-door, three-pedal Wrangler; or (b) an older Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer with the slant-six engine and at least a quarter-million miles on the clock.

Everything else is just a tarted-up Dodge.


^^THIS^^

But what do I know, I drive a Toyota FJ because I actually do shiat other than hit the rocks...
 
2012-05-20 10:19:00 AM  

debug: ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.

My thoughts exactly.




Motion carried.


Robo Beat: Or one of those four-door abominations.


Thinking about getting one actually the next time car buying comes around to me(wife needs a new minivan first, and The Wagon{04 Passat} is still running fine)


/other car is my 01 GTI
 
2012-05-20 10:36:06 AM  

Psylence: But what do I know, I drive a Toyota FJ because I actually do shiat other than hit the rocks...


I 'PROPER' FJ40 / 55/ 60..
or the modern abomination that looks like a tonka toy and has the visibility of a gremlin.
 
2012-05-20 10:37:45 AM  

baka-san:

Thinking about getting one actually the next time car buying comes around to me


Moi Aussi. But, only if they have a diesel by then in US market.
 
2012-05-20 11:22:25 AM  

BHShaman: baka-san:

Thinking about getting one actually the next time car buying comes around to me

Moi Aussi. But, only if they have a diesel by then in US market.


Once wifey's Liberty (KJ not the crappy KK) dies we talk about replacing it with the 4 door JK. Haven't got her convinced on 35's though (yet) :). Other than the minivan engine which has now been replaced with the Pentastar which is getting good reviews (not as good as the 4.0 but what can you do) straight off the lot it is better than the TJ:
- highlined so you can fit up to 33's stock, 35's only need a 2" BB
- Dana 44 stock
- no silly steering box being a rock magnet
- no rusting out front fenders. Granted the fronts are plastic but whatevs at least they are easy to replace if you crumple them up.
My biggest complaint about the JKs is after market addons are like twice the price.

Once my 98 dies I want a 2 door JK rubicon. Would love to see either diesel or hemi as an option.
 
2012-05-20 11:36:54 AM  
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"Engine fires are a matter for the courts. Canyoneroooooo!"
 
2012-05-20 01:09:59 PM  
I wonder if they planned it so that the story would break on national "Take you Jeep Topless" day (May 19th).
 
2012-05-20 02:09:21 PM  

kermit_the_frog: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. It catches fire. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.


I remember the same formula was used by Ford for a certain compact car in the 1970s.
 
2012-05-20 02:14:06 PM  

Robo Beat: ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.

Or one of those four-door abominations. A proper Jeep is either (a) a two-door, three-pedal Wrangler; or (b) an older Cherokee/Grand Wagoneer with the slant-six engine and at least a quarter-million miles on the clock.

Everything else is just a tarted-up Dodge.


Where do pickups such as the Gladiator, FC, J-10/20/Honcho, and MJ fit in? The bulk of these did not have a straight six available, nor did they have anything to do with Dodge at the time of their creation.


/owns two MJ Comanches
 
2012-05-20 02:24:56 PM  

Corporate Self: "Engine fires are a matter for the courts. Canyoneroooooo!"


Packed mud and trash between the exhaust and the transmission isn't.
 
2012-05-20 02:58:51 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Seems a fitting punishment for buying a Wrangler with an automatic transmission.


Done.
 
2012-05-20 03:03:30 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Corporate Self: "Engine fires are a matter for the courts. Canyoneroooooo!"

Packed mud and trash between the exhaust and the transmission isn't.


Its a paraphrase of the line from ... fark it, nevermind.
 
2012-05-20 03:45:55 PM  

Corporate Self: Its a paraphrase of the line from ... fark it, nevermind.


Really? Wow, so The Simpson's isn't really a documentary?
/obvious sarcasm
 
2012-05-20 04:40:36 PM  
www.cherokeeforum.com

Mine.

/dnrtfa
 
2012-05-20 07:38:05 PM  

BHShaman: Psylence: But what do I know, I drive a Toyota FJ because I actually do shiat other than hit the rocks...

I 'PROPER' FJ40 / 55/ 60..
or the modern abomination that looks like a tonka toy and has the visibility of a gremlin.


Aw c'mon, no hatin'. I dig the tonka looks, although they are minimized by mine being solid army green and not yellow. I'm not sure what the visibility deal is, compared to my other car the FJ is like a fishbowl. Although tube doors and a removable roof would surely increase visibility.
Bottom line though, when it comes to reliability and "holy shiat I need this thing to last" Toyota rules the world in offroad. I'll take my Tonka looking - yet HiLux and Prado based Tonka toy over a Jeep. Hands down. And I'll still winch your Heep out if you get stuck. ;) Seeya on the trails!
 
2012-05-21 07:31:26 AM  
CSB time:
My offroad group has a minor offroading celebrity in it (BillaVista) who does technical articles for one of the biggest offroading websites in the world. Anyways right before Toyota released the FJ they asked him to take a bunch on one of our local trails. The one chosen was a relatively stock friendly trail (it's got a bit more tough over the years but I digress). So about 3 of them show up with some of their engineers who pretty much came right off of the plane from Japan. The first thing they did was take off the side bars to increase clearance and mirrors (those lights were supposedly pretty fragile). After that they were more than happy to have the guys driving to give them hell. Relatively capable vehicles. Tad wide though although the JK isn't exactly a svelte figure compared to earlier jeeps
/CSB
 
2012-05-21 08:27:03 AM  
CSB:

January this year I was staying at Seven Springs Ski Resort and one of these things burst into flames at 3AM. I don't think anyone was even in it. It burned completely to the ground, it was hard to tell it was a Jeep.
 
2012-05-21 10:45:37 AM  
Test drove a 2011 4-wheel-drive 4-door Wrangler last year at an event. I was not impressed with the turning radius. I drove a 1995 jeep wrangler a week later and it turned on a dime.
 
2012-05-21 11:56:16 AM  
Yeah, Jeeps ended when they ditched the 4.0. Anything larger than a CJ ended in 1986. J10/20/Honcho, Chief, etc.
 
2012-05-21 05:52:34 PM  
For Christ sakes, get a Chrysler!!
 
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