Hijacking the Monroe thread for a moment.

I just finished the alternative history novel 'Memoirs of John F. Kennedy' and really enjoyed it. It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas. It does have a kind of Liberal circlejerk feel to it at times, but it was still well done.

Triumph: How to make shiat up and call it non-fiction anyway:
Rule #1: Make sure everybody's dead

Farkin' A. Lots of somebody somewhere suggested something in that article.

Apos: Marilyn Monroe thread!

Bunnyhat: if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas

If he had survived it, it wouldn't have been an assassination. At least not of him.

It is consistent wit what we know about Jackie Kennedy - she allowed JFK to have his mistresses as long as they weren't public (didn't last long).

Anyone know if Marilyn Monroe was actually a good actress?

FTFA

In Rainbow's End, the biographer also claims Monroe had lesbian trysts with Joan Crawford, Marlene Dietrich and Elizabeth Taylor

If anyone needs me, I'll be in my bunk.

FirstNationalBastard: Triumph: How to make shiat up and call it non-fiction anyway:
Rule #1: Make sure everybody's dead

I've got this great story about Franklin Pierce and James K. Polk making Harriet Beecher Stowe airtight while Millard Fillmore stood masturbating in the corner screaming "I KNOW NOTHING!".

Maybe I'll write a book.

I've read a lot of funny posts over the years on Fark, but after reading yours I don't know if I should call you a farkin' genius or ask if you count to potato.

redmond24: Anyone know if Marilyn Monroe was actually a good actress?

She really wanted to be (going so far as to study under Lee Strasberg (one of the principal architects of method acting) at the Actor's Studio) and her later work shows a definite improvement.

In short, no but she could have been had she lived long enough.

I'd love to see the Monroe\Taylor sex tapes.

It's sad, but Marilyn's legacy and cultural impact would not have anywhere near what it is had she lived to a ripe old age. See also James Dean, JFK.

On reading my last comment, I may be eligible for tonight's "Stating the Obvious" award.

I've always had a thing for jackie o. Even though she was in the whitehouse 20 years before I was born. something about her, I don't know.

FirstNationalBastard: redmond24: It is consistent wit what we know about Jackie Kennedy - she allowed JFK to have his mistresses as long as they weren't public (didn't last long).

Anyone know if Marilyn Monroe was actually a good actress?

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Spectacular.

They had thongs back then?

I've never really understood her appeal. There's hundreds of young actresses in Hollywood these days that I would say are way better looking than her, maybe women were just uglier back then.

Bunnyhat: I just finished the alternative history novel 'Memoirs of John F. Kennedy' and really enjoyed it. It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas. It does have a kind of Liberal circlejerk feel to it at times, but it was still well done.

I just watched an alternative history show "The Roosevelt's" and also really enjoyed it. Especially the part with Eleanor and Marilyn Monroe.

SuperT: I've always had a thing for jackie o. Even though she was in the whitehouse 20 years before I was born. something about her, I don't know.

She had grace.

/this better not be obscure.

Not to be a downer, but I heard a historian point out that it is actually possible to PROVE that Marilyn and Jack never had an affair.

Both their lives are so well documented that you can show that they were only within 1000 miles of each other on two occasions and one or the other is accounted for every minute of those times.

Now BOBBY is a different story.

ReapTheChaos: I've never really understood her appeal. There's hundreds of young actresses in Hollywood these days that I would say are way better looking than her, maybe women were just uglier back then.

It's BECAUSE there are hundreds of hotter young actresses in Hollywood these days.

The sheer small total number of films in Marilyn's day meant that the stars of those films became Icons -- she was one of only a few women in that era marketed to the entire country's population as a sexual being.

The only reason for her current appeal is the circumstance of her life in that period of history.

Now there are more total video dramatic and comedic programs released every day than in the entire years of Marilyn's career (not to mention porn) -- there can never again be a "movie star" the way there were when 100 films per year were the total entertainment seen by the entire world.

Peaceboy: Bunnyhat: It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas.

It had to be better than Stephen King's "11/22/63". I want those 800 pages back.

Too funny. I was given that book as a Christmas gift. I finally picked it up about two weeks ago. I went through about 110 pages (where my bookmark sits) and put it down, never compelled to pick it up again. Thanks for sharing, now I know why.

Also re: the article - it's easy to write stories about MM, JFK, Bobby, Jackie O. when they are all dead. Sheesh.

OhioKnight: ReapTheChaos: I've never really understood her appeal. There's hundreds of young actresses in Hollywood these days that I would say are way better looking than her, maybe women were just uglier back then.

It's BECAUSE there are hundreds of hotter young actresses in Hollywood these days.

The sheer small total number of films in Marilyn's day meant that the stars of those films became Icons -- she was one of only a few women in that era marketed to the entire country's population as a sexual being.

The only reason for her current appeal is the circumstance of her life in that period of history.

Now there are more total video dramatic and comedic programs released every day than in the entire years of Marilyn's career (not to mention porn) -- there can never again be a "movie star" the way there were when 100 films per year were the total entertainment seen by the entire world.

Maybe I shouldn't have used today's actresses as an example. I wasn't really talking about her stardom, I was simply talking about her looks. I just never thought she was that good looking compared to what you see today. That's why I made the statement that maybe women were just uglier back then.

FirstNationalBastard: Jackie and Marilyn would have been the affair I wanted to see.

Go On......

I've always had a thing for jackie o. Even though she was in the whitehouse 20 years before I was born. something about her, I don't know.

Grace?

csb- apparently, Norma had vaginal halitosis for most of her life and tried many methods to beat it. To no avail.

Bunnyhat: Hijacking the Monroe thread for a moment.

I just finished the alternative history novel 'Memoirs of John F. Kennedy' and really enjoyed it. It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas. It does have a kind of Liberal circlejerk feel to it at times, but it was still well done.

How did they deal with the fact he wouldn't have been reelected?

darch: I've always had a thing for jackie o. Even though she was in the whitehouse 20 years before I was born. something about her, I don't know.

Grace?

csb- apparently, Norma had vaginal halitosis for most of her life and tried many methods to beat it. To no avail.

She doesn't look Hispanic...



/kidding
//I'm sure I just had bad luck

fisker: Apos: Marilyn Monroe thread!

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SharkTrager: Bunnyhat: Hijacking the Monroe thread for a moment.

I just finished the alternative history novel 'Memoirs of John F. Kennedy' and really enjoyed it. It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas. It does have a kind of Liberal circlejerk feel to it at times, but it was still well done.

How did they deal with the fact he wouldn't have been reelected?

Spoilers

He was still shot in the book, just managed to survive. The national backlash against Dallas and the hate that city was spewing was pinned on Republicans and the extremism they were spewing. Couple that with people simply wanting to support the president and he ended up winning in a landslide. The book was really well done and was extremely historically plausible.

redmond24: It is consistent wit what we know about Jackie Kennedy - she allowed JFK to have his mistresses as long as they weren't public (didn't last long).

Anyone know if Marilyn Monroe was actually a good actress?

Watch "The Misfits". It showed she really could act.

redmond24: It is consistent wit what we know about Jackie Kennedy - she allowed JFK to have his mistresses as long as they weren't public (didn't last long).

Anyone know if Marilyn Monroe was actually a good actress lay?

FTFY.

Bunnyhat: SharkTrager: Bunnyhat: Hijacking the Monroe thread for a moment.

I just finished the alternative history novel 'Memoirs of John F. Kennedy' and really enjoyed it. It's a what if novel about what could have happened if JFK survived the assassination in Dallas. It does have a kind of Liberal circlejerk feel to it at times, but it was still well done.

How did they deal with the fact he wouldn't have been reelected?

Spoilers

He was still shot in the book, just managed to survive. The national backlash against Dallas and the hate that city was spewing was pinned on Republicans and the extremism they were spewing. Couple that with people simply wanting to support the president and he ended up winning in a landslide. The book was really well done and was extremely historically plausible.

I don't see that as realistic though. Oswald was an avowed Communist and most of the vitriol came from Southern Democrats, so unless they change the shooter and environment it's hard to hang the blame on the Republicans.

FirstNationalBastard: Triumph: How to make shiat up and call it non-fiction anyway:
Rule #1: Make sure everybody's dead

I've got this great story about Franklin Pierce and James K. Polk making Harriet Beecher Stowe airtight while Millard Fillmore stood masturbating in the corner screaming "I KNOW NOTHING!".

Maybe I'll write a book.

You saying we had a Pres with 2 dicks? Or are you saying they brought a ball gag?

ReapTheChaos: I've never really understood her appeal. There's hundreds of young actresses in Hollywood these days that I would say are way better looking than her, maybe women were just uglier back then.


Ann Margret

Therefore your argument is invalid

Ann-Margret for the win, absolutely, though Marilyn, Sophia Loren & Raquel Welch were close runner ups. Never noticed any hotness in Jackie Kennedy though.

Marilyn Monroe, eh? A lot of farkers are showing their age today. Marilyn Monroe was already old news when I was kid, and that was a long time ago. And she wasn't all that hot, she just was willing to be skankier than her contemporaries in a time before that was passe, like it is now...

Gulper Eel: ReapTheChaos: There's hundreds of young actresses in Hollywood these days that I would say are way better looking than her, maybe women were just uglier back then have access to plastic surgery techniques unavailable in the 1950's.

FTFY.

Also: you. Lawn. Off. NOW.

You could take 100 skankbot-of-the-month starlets of 2012 and they wouldn't add up to be one third as fine as Grace Kelly.

Truth.

mongbiohazard: Marilyn Monroe, eh? A lot of farkers are showing their age today. Marilyn Monroe was already old news when I was kid, and that was a long time ago. And she wasn't all that hot, she just was willing to be skankier than her contemporaries in a time before that was passe, like it is now...

When Marilyn Monroe and Jane Russell were putting their hand and foot prints into cement in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater to promote their movie 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes', Marilyn suggested to Jane that she press her big breasts into the cement because they were what she was best known for. Jane then said back to Marilyn that maybe she should hike up her skirt and press the part that she was most famous for into the cement.