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2012-05-19 09:59:25 PM  
These were hilarious. I've gotten a couple of these over the years in Los Angeles.

The "ticket" you get in the mail is especially funny. It basically ASKS you to please turn yourself in and pay the money while sorta vaguely saying you don't actually HAVE to.
 
2012-05-19 09:59:55 PM  
I was really happy when the MN state supreme court ruled red light cameras unconstitutional. I had no small amount of schadenfreude when the state was forced to pay back all fees collected from them.

/Never got ticketed for one
//Sister did
 
2012-05-19 10:02:20 PM  
Got ticketed back in the day. Claimed the car was stolen and it wasn't me. Never heard a peep out of them
 
2012-05-19 10:05:10 PM  
My daughter in-law got one of these while driving my car. They sent me the notice wanting me to identify her including her Drivers Lic Number! WTF, am I suppose to sneak in her purse. Just tossed it and never heard another thing about it.

Although the best part was being able to download the pict and a video of the event. Which of course I e mailed to her and other family members. I tild her next time it goes on Face Book!!! LOL
 
2012-05-19 10:05:56 PM  
They just installed the Redflex system here in Round Rock, at the corner of my road.

Hate it.

Any suggestions?
 
2012-05-19 10:05:58 PM  
almost forgot, the pict of her had her talking on a cell phone!!!
 
2012-05-19 10:09:58 PM  

plasticuser: They just installed the Redflex system here in Round Rock, at the corner of my road.

Hate it.

Any suggestions?


www.automoblog.net

Driver wears a mask and the passenger shoots the moon. Just a thought.
 
2012-05-19 10:13:49 PM  

plasticuser: They just installed the Redflex system here in Round Rock, at the corner of my road.

Hate it.

Any suggestions?


I always figured a rifle bullet through the camera enough times would either result in an arrest (if the casing could be tracked or someone snitched) or complete removal of the camera.
 
2012-05-19 10:16:53 PM  
'...city councils in Emeryville and Yuba City each voted to discontinue the use of automated ticketing machines, primarily out of a concern that the programs were failing to generate the expected amount of revenue."

If that doesn't make your blood boil i don't know what will... the decision to keep these things or not was not about whether it makes the cities safer or not... or better places to live, work, and drive.. nope... it was all about how much loot the police were able to steal from the citizenry.

It's sad that they don't even hide it, really..
 
2012-05-19 10:19:25 PM  

plasticuser: They just installed the Redflex system here in Round Rock, at the corner of my road.

Hate it.

Any suggestions?


spraypaint the lens. Use a clear one so all of the images are blurry and the damage won't be apparent.

www.homedepot.com
 
2012-05-19 10:21:22 PM  
How will they be able to identify the Johns if they do away with the Red Light cameras?
 
2012-05-19 10:30:04 PM  
Does Chico have them? Might need the revenue with how much they pay their city executives.
 
2012-05-19 10:34:54 PM  
Officials were also upset that the programs have been tying up police resources.

Good. The only way to beat these cameras is to make them a pain in the ass to use.
Make fake calls complaining that they keep malfunctioning, i.e aberrant flashing, fake acts of vandalism on the cameras, dripping liquid, arcing etc...

Doing this will tie up resources and ultimately make the cameras not worth their while
 
2012-05-19 10:36:40 PM  

MightyPez: I was really happy when the MN state supreme court ruled red light cameras unconstitutional. I had no small amount of schadenfreude when the state was forced to pay back all fees collected from them.


The City of Minneapolis knew they were unconstitutional when they signed the contract and was expecting the State Legislature to change the law that would make them legal. Of course that never happened.

/and their claims that accidents were reduced at the corner complete ignored the fact that accidents were falling for years already
 
2012-05-19 10:39:51 PM  

plasticuser: Any suggestions?


i.ytimg.com
 
2012-05-19 10:41:29 PM  

plasticuser: They just installed the Redflex system here in Round Rock, at the corner of my road.

Hate it.

Any suggestions?


Wait. It will end up just like these in a couple of years.

If they are successful in fulfilling their stated purpose of stopping drivers from running the red light, then they will fail in their actual purpose of generating revenue and will go away.
 
2012-05-19 10:44:49 PM  
My sister claims that since they put up red light cameras at a major intersection near her, that the accident rate has dropped dramatically there.
Seems logical.
 
2012-05-19 11:00:13 PM  

twfeline: My sister claims that since they put up red light cameras at a major intersection near her, that the accident rate has dropped dramatically there.
Seems logical.


How 'bout the accident rate at the intersections before or after or a block away? Most likely increased.
 
2012-05-19 11:08:49 PM  
Crafty Bernardo
If that doesn't make your blood boil i don't know what will... the decision to keep these things or not was not about whether it makes the cities safer or not..


The amount of money that company charges to operate the cameras? For almost $9300 per crossing&month, you can buy a couple of folding chairs and digicams and have someone sit there and take the pictures all day and night.You might still come out ahead and you'll have created a handful of local jobs instead of sending money to Australia.
 
2012-05-19 11:11:52 PM  
1.) Red light cameras installed to generate revenue from tickets given to red light runners.

2.) Drivers see cameras and obey traffic laws, stop running red lights, slow down.

3.) City loses revenue because drivers obey the laws.

4.) City takes down cameras and eats the cost.

I would think the city would like it when people obey the laws.
 
2012-05-19 11:21:12 PM  
The cameras are the innocent victims in this sad story. The people who obey the traffic laws don't like the money being spent on cameras. The people who think it's their right to ignore the traffic laws complain when they get a ticket or lose their 00 license. And the camera is just a collection of plastic, metal and silicon. So much hate for an inanimate object.

www.letsjapan.org
Won't somebody think of the cameras?
 
2012-05-19 11:24:27 PM  

teto85: 1.) Red light cameras installed to generate revenue from tickets given to red light runners.

2.) Drivers see cameras and obey traffic laws, stop running red lights, slow down.

3.) City loses revenue because drivers obey the laws.

4.) City takes down cameras and eats the cost.

I would think the city would like it when people obey the laws.


Or maybe... just maybe... it wasn't about increasing safety and compliance in the first place
 
2012-05-19 11:27:08 PM  
I must admit that I was 100% against red light cameras until I moved to Boston. After the 5th time of watching cars blow through red lights while pedestrians are walking through the crosswalk, I'm now willing to admit they may be necessary.

/I also get why Boston drivers are crazy. It took an hour to get a mile and a half, and even now Google is saying that that drive will take 15 minutes in traffic (11:00 at night).
 
2012-05-19 11:36:36 PM  

plasticuser: Any suggestions?


The Europeans seem to like burning tires:
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Crafty Bernardo: If that doesn't make your blood boil i don't know what will... the decision to keep these things or not was not about whether it makes the cities safer or not... or better places to live, work, and drive.. nope... it was all about how much loot the police were able to steal from the citizenry.


Some areas pulled them down after studies showed that they actually increased the accident rate at lights - and not just 'fender benders'. In nearly all cases were accidents went down, they went down due to other improvements to the intersection - better lighting, increased yellow, better signs, etc...

APE992: I always figured a rifle bullet through the camera enough times would either result in an arrest (if the casing could be tracked or someone snitched) or complete removal of the camera.


Please, if anybody even thinks of doing this, please remember:
1. Unsilenced rifles are LOUD
2. Bolt actions and such don't leave a case unless you work the action.
3. If you miss, the round is coming down somewhere around a mile down range with potentially lethal force. Remember, safe vandalism!

Really, I like the burning tire/spraypaint ideas better.
 
2012-05-19 11:39:17 PM  

Crafty Bernardo: '...city councils in Emeryville and Yuba City each voted to discontinue the use of automated ticketing machines, primarily out of a concern that the programs were failing to generate the expected amount of revenue."

If that doesn't make your blood boil i don't know what will... the decision to keep these things or not was not about whether it makes the cities safer or not... or better places to live, work, and drive.. nope... it was all about how much loot the police were able to steal from the citizenry.

It's sad that they don't even hide it, really..


^^^ so much this
 
2012-05-19 11:40:15 PM  
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2012-05-19 11:50:17 PM  
city officials granted Redflex Traffic Systems, an Australian company, the right to issue traffic ticket

You get an Australian company to issue traffic tickets to American citizens. Wow, who cooked that deal?
 
2012-05-19 11:53:37 PM  

praxis44241: city officials granted Redflex Traffic Systems, an Australian company, the right to issue traffic ticket

You get an Australian company to issue traffic tickets to American citizens. Wow, who cooked that deal?


The city governments. Red light and speed cameras are not constitutional as law enforcement devices, so they wrote special laws to allow them. It's not treated as a traffic violation, but a city ordinance violation, like not cutting your grass or playing loud music at night, and the company contracted collects the fine. It's the only way they could make them "legal."
 
2012-05-19 11:56:00 PM  

praxis44241: city officials granted Redflex Traffic Systems, an Australian company, the right to issue traffic ticket

You get an Australian company to issue traffic tickets to American citizens. Wow, who cooked that deal?


You know who else got Australians to do their dirty work?
 
2012-05-20 12:00:19 AM  
How accurate are paintball guns?

Just curious.
 
2012-05-20 12:03:48 AM  
I'm more of a Redlight district man myself.
 
2012-05-20 12:46:26 AM  
Roooooooooooooooooooxanne.....
 
2012-05-20 12:51:41 AM  
This has been done before, but I still get a kick out of it.

1) Find out the license plate # of the mayor's and all the city councilmen's cars.
2) Download fonts from intarnets, photoshop up a facsimile of a license plates
3) Have a few dozen friends affix one to their car and drive through the intersection while the light is against them
4) Do that a couple hundred times.
5) Laugh hysterically as the entire city council is buried under an avalanche of tickets.

On the other hand, the entire city council probably has their cars' license plate #'s in the "get out of tickets free" database.
 
2012-05-20 12:54:32 AM  

meyerkev: I must admit that I was 100% against red light cameras until I moved to Boston. After the 5th time of watching cars blow through red lights while pedestrians are walking through the crosswalk, I'm now willing to admit they may be necessary.


So a camera is going to magically stop a car blowing through a red light with pedestrians? I didn't realize camera's wielded so much power.
 
2012-05-20 01:19:36 AM  
Redflex makes money even if the town pulls out the cameras.

Their contract here is that their speed cameras revenue will go on for 30 years and one of their broken systems here will take in almost a billion dollars in that time. Its the best example of highway robbery I've ever seen.
 
2012-05-20 02:25:10 AM  
Doesn't matter. They should continue using these cameras regardless of the cost. If you save even one human life, it's worth it. It's about safety, not revenue.

*snicker*

By the way, if you get one of these tickets in LA County, throw it in the trash. The LA Superior Court has held that there's no consequence to ignoring these tickets, because they can't prove you ever got it in the first place. As a result, the City of LA ended their camera program, but some other cities in the county still use them.
 
2012-05-20 02:58:21 AM  
And the red light runners rejoice that they can go back to making the roads more dangerous for the rest of us without fear of being penalized.
 
2012-05-20 01:48:47 PM  

farkityfarker: And the red light runners rejoice that they can go back to making the roads more dangerous for the rest of us without fear of being penalized.


Hmmm... it's too bad there's not a force of people who are paid to police the streets and penalize said red light runners...
 
2012-05-20 02:18:11 PM  

MightyPez: I was really happy when the MN state supreme court ruled red light cameras unconstitutional. I had no small amount of schadenfreude when the state was forced to pay back all fees collected from them.

/Never got ticketed for one
//Sister did


Redlight cameras in MN would have been the DUMBEST farking thing ever. The roads can't even remain painted from all the salt and snow long enough for you to know where the line to stop is. Sheesh. That must've been ruled on before I moved here.
 
2012-05-20 02:21:28 PM  

Guidette Frankentits: Redlight cameras in MN would have been the DUMBEST farking thing ever. The roads can't even remain painted from all the salt and snow long enough for you to know where the line to stop is. Sheesh. That must've been ruled on before I moved here


Not to mention stopping behind the (invisible, covered in snow) line is complete nonsense in this state.
 
2012-05-20 07:22:01 PM  

gingerjet: meyerkev: I must admit that I was 100% against red light cameras until I moved to Boston. After the 5th time of watching cars blow through red lights while pedestrians are walking through the crosswalk, I'm now willing to admit they may be necessary.

So a camera is going to magically stop a car blowing through a red light with pedestrians? I didn't realize camera's wielded so much power.


No, but a couple $500 tickets might.
 
2012-05-20 08:17:26 PM  

meyerkev: gingerjet: meyerkev: I must admit that I was 100% against red light cameras until I moved to Boston. After the 5th time of watching cars blow through red lights while pedestrians are walking through the crosswalk, I'm now willing to admit they may be necessary.

So a camera is going to magically stop a car blowing through a red light with pedestrians? I didn't realize camera's wielded so much power.

No, but a couple $500 tickets might.


Not if you throw them in the paper shredder.

Is there anywhere in the US where these scam "tickets" are actually enforceable? I'm not aware of any, certainly not in my state.
 
2012-05-20 11:03:15 PM  

Neo Geek: farkityfarker: And the red light runners rejoice that they can go back to making the roads more dangerous for the rest of us without fear of being penalized.

Hmmm... it's too bad there's not a force of people who are paid to police the streets and penalize said red light runners...


Deploying enough of them to catch even a tiny fraction of the red light runners would be prohibitively expensive.

The cameras have a 100% catch rate.

That's why the runners hate them.
 
2012-05-21 09:26:40 PM  

farkityfarker: Neo Geek: farkityfarker: And the red light runners rejoice that they can go back to making the roads more dangerous for the rest of us without fear of being penalized.

Hmmm... it's too bad there's not a force of people who are paid to police the streets and penalize said red light runners...

Deploying enough of them to catch even a tiny fraction of the red light runners would be prohibitively expensive.

The cameras have a 100% catch rate.

That's why the runners hate them.


While I certainly see your point about the expense, the cameras often have greater than a 100% catch rate... that's why the non-runners hate them.
 
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