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(CBS Chicago)   SWAT team arrests Chicago protesters for the heinous crime of...making beer. Glad we're safe from THAT particular scourge   (chicago.cbslocal.com) divider line 241
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2012-05-19 10:19:49 AM
I get the distinct impression that the cops are absolutely terrified by the Occupy movement. if nothing else, its starting to look like every gotdamn federal agency in the country set up shop in Chicago for the NATO summit. that is a LOT of firepower set up just to make sure nobody at the summit even SEES a protest sign.
 
2012-05-19 10:48:17 AM
Wait, they raided the house without a warrant?

Whooooops. Say hello to the NLG and a huge settlement for the protesters! Sorry Chicago taxpayers.
 
2012-05-19 12:31:31 PM

Rincewind53: Wait, they raided the house without a warrant?


hey man...they were making terrorist beer! you can't have people running around making terrorist beer. it might get you...I dunno. terrorist drunk or something.

apparently adding 'terrorism' to anything means you can do whatever you want and the consitution no longer applies.
 
2012-05-19 01:22:51 PM
Of course they had no warrant, because they had no probable cause. All they had were intercepted email and cell phone communications that were no doubt gained illegally. So why not top that off with an illegal bust? It's not like they're the ones paying out for the inevitable lawsuit that follows.
 
2012-05-19 01:24:51 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Of course they had no warrant, because they had no probable cause. All they had were intercepted email and cell phone communications that were no doubt gained illegally. So why not top that off with an illegal bust? It's not like they're the ones paying out for the inevitable lawsuit that follows.


yeah but SOCIALISMS and TERRORISMS! that trumps the constitution right?
 
2012-05-19 01:27:25 PM
What kind of beer? I cannot judge the morality of this action without this critical information.
 
2012-05-19 01:28:14 PM
If the farking protesters coming into Chicago didn't do their homework regarding the Chicago police dept. and what has happened in the past with protesters.... they are idiots and deserve every thing that happens to them.
 
2012-05-19 01:30:07 PM
Cops hate hops.
 
2012-05-19 01:31:08 PM

Weaver95: Marcus Aurelius: Of course they had no warrant, because they had no probable cause. All they had were intercepted email and cell phone communications that were no doubt gained illegally. So why not top that off with an illegal bust? It's not like they're the ones paying out for the inevitable lawsuit that follows.

yeah but SOCIALISMS and TERRORISMS! that trumps the constitution right?


As long as the 1% are safe and insulated from society at large, that's all that really matters. Everyone else can eat cake.
 
2012-05-19 01:32:35 PM

kieran57: What kind of beer? I cannot judge the morality of this action without this critical information.


Home brew, so probably some undrinkable over-hopped ale.
 
2012-05-19 01:32:48 PM

Weaver95: I get the distinct impression that the cops are absolutely terrified by the Occupy movement.


Of course you do.
 
2012-05-19 01:33:17 PM

Marcus Aurelius:
As long as the 1% are safe and insulated from society at large, that's all that really matters. Everyone else can eat cake.


exactly! we should give the 1% another tax break. i'm sure its very stressful for them to see a protest sign.
 
2012-05-19 01:34:26 PM

9beers: Weaver95: I get the distinct impression that the cops are absolutely terrified by the Occupy movement.

Of course you do.


hey, they were spooked enough to raid someone's house without a warrant or even probable cause.

seems like the actions of a scared person to me.
 
2012-05-19 01:34:40 PM
Darrin Annussek says he walked to Chicago from Philadelphia to participate in Occupy protests, only to be seized by police in a raid on an apartment at 32nd and Morgan.

WTF
 
2012-05-19 01:35:33 PM
Zekman asked Annussek if police would be able to latch onto any previous arrests. He told her, "Myself, I have no arrests."

However, CBS 2 confirmed Annussek was arrested in December in connection with another Occupy event, in Raleigh, N.C.


But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?
 
2012-05-19 01:36:16 PM

9beers: But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?


which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?
 
2012-05-19 01:37:31 PM
Typical operations. When "protecting" El Presidente and other world leaders, LEOs make a arrest early into the event with heavy media coverage to intimidate citizens to comply.

And since the law enforcement people are working along with the Secret Squirrels and other international protection divisions, they get to act as brutallly as they wish.

Those arrested will enjoy the booking and detention, and after months of legal manure, charges will routinely be dropped against most , excepting the most vocal protesters.
 
2012-05-19 01:37:47 PM

Rincewind53: Sorry Chicago taxpayers.


They should protest their shiatty police department.
 
2012-05-19 01:38:45 PM
Bottles, the most dangerous of all "dual-use technologies".
 
2012-05-19 01:39:06 PM
Pizza
 
2012-05-19 01:39:07 PM

Rincewind53: Wait, they raided the house without a warrant?

Whooooops. Say hello to the NLG and a huge settlement for the protesters! Sorry Chicago taxpayers.


But.... but.... National Security, and all that jazz.
 
2012-05-19 01:39:32 PM
fta A tenant who agreed to host the out-of-town protesters says the police did seize his home-brew making equipment, including buckets, beer bottles and caps.

"If anybody would like some, I would like to offer them a sip of my beer," said William Vassilakis.



Why do pleasant, neighborly beer makers hate America!?
 
2012-05-19 01:39:48 PM

Weaver95: 9beers: But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?

which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?


Which part of the Patriot Act did YOU miss?
 
2012-05-19 01:40:01 PM
Warrantless raid, and those detained are unable to see lawyers...

Whats the point of even having a constitution when the government just ignores it?

And these pigs thought that they would make Molotov cocktails with beer?
 
2012-05-19 01:43:23 PM

bim1154: If the farking protesters coming into Chicago didn't do their homework regarding the Chicago police dept. and what has happened in the past with protesters.... they are idiots and deserve every thing that happens to them.


Does Illinois still have that stupid and blatantly unconstitutional law against recording police on duty?
 
2012-05-19 01:43:58 PM

Linkster: Weaver95: 9beers: But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?

which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?

Which part of the Patriot Act did YOU miss?


none of it. i'm just appalled at the abuses I see being inflicted on my fellow countrymen.
 
2012-05-19 01:44:23 PM

Nem Wan: bim1154: If the farking protesters coming into Chicago didn't do their homework regarding the Chicago police dept. and what has happened in the past with protesters.... they are idiots and deserve every thing that happens to them.

Does Illinois still have that stupid and blatantly unconstitutional law against recording police on duty?


I think a judge put a block on it for the protests if I remember correctly. With in the past 2 weeks.
 
2012-05-19 01:45:52 PM

Great Odins Raven: Warrantless raid, and those detained are unable to see lawyers...

Whats the point of even having a constitution when the government just ignores it?

And these pigs thought that they would make Molotov cocktails with beer?


Crates of glass bottles, people moving liquids with hoses. ANYTHING now qualifies as probable cause. Someday I fear just questioning probable cause will be probable cause.
 
2012-05-19 01:47:04 PM

Nem Wan: bim1154: If the farking protesters coming into Chicago didn't do their homework regarding the Chicago police dept. and what has happened in the past with protesters.... they are idiots and deserve every thing that happens to them.

Does Illinois still have that stupid and blatantly unconstitutional law against recording police on duty?


Here ya go. Link
 
2012-05-19 01:47:19 PM
crow202.org
...were they tired of those melon-farming cops and their melon-farming lack of probable cause and a warrant?
 
2012-05-19 01:47:42 PM

9beers: Zekman asked Annussek if police would be able to latch onto any previous arrests. He told her, "Myself, I have no arrests."

However, CBS 2 confirmed Annussek was arrested in December in connection with another Occupy event, in Raleigh, N.C.

But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?



You have to at least give the benefit of a doubt for any "arrests" that happen in conjunction with an OWS movement. Just showing up at an OWS protest is apparently probable cause for arrest, because turrists and soshalists.
 
2012-05-19 01:48:21 PM
Let's all go to Chicago,,,

August 28, 1968 came to be known as the day a "police riot" took place
 
2012-05-19 01:48:57 PM

phatjanus: Great Odins Raven: Warrantless raid, and those detained are unable to see lawyers...

Whats the point of even having a constitution when the government just ignores it?

And these pigs thought that they would make Molotov cocktails with beer?

Crates of glass bottles, people moving liquids with hoses. ANYTHING now qualifies as probable cause. Someday I fear just questioning probable cause will be probable cause.


I like the fact that you can be arrested for nothing other than resisting arrest. how's that for bullshiat? no other criminal charges...just 'resisting arrest'. cop rolls up on you, says 'hey! you're resisting arrest!' and that's it, you're in cuffs and heading for general population.
 
2012-05-19 01:50:01 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would a person making molotov cocktails need anything beyond some bottles, gasoline and cloth?
 
2012-05-19 01:50:08 PM
I get the feeling that the whole reason the apartment was raided and people arrested was that the tenant was hosting protestors from out of town. The cops probably monitored a message board for the protest that arranged such housing and figured that outsiders were the most dangerous people.

Wouldn't actual smart terrorists be a little less public about their travel and housing arrangements? You know, organize themselves in terrorist cells?
 
2012-05-19 01:50:45 PM

Weaver95: which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?


Can you prove anything you're claiming? What I can prove is that 3 members of this group are now facing terrorism conspiracy charges. Link
 
2012-05-19 01:51:22 PM

phatjanus: Bottles, the most dangerous of all "dual-use technologies".


Saddam Hussein packaged his "baby formula" in bottles, so Robert Lamorte is clearly a suicide bomber and his "host" is an al-Qaeda handler. They'll confess after a year or two in Gitmo.
 
2012-05-19 01:54:53 PM

9beers: Weaver95: which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?

Can you prove anything you're claiming? What I can prove is that 3 members of this group are now facing terrorism conspiracy charges. Link


again - no warrant, no probable cause. sure - pile on the charges...they'll be quietly dismissed later this month and the city will likely have to pay up on a civil rights violations case.
 
2012-05-19 01:56:25 PM

Weaver95: I get the distinct impression that the cops are absolutely terrified by the Occupy movement.



Yes terrified just like when a fearful Germany bombed Pearl Harbor.
 
Oak
2012-05-19 01:57:10 PM

Weaver95: Linkster: Weaver95: 9beers: But lets just go ahead and believe everything the stinky hippie says, right?

which part of 'no warrant' was unclear....?

Which part of the Patriot Act did YOU miss?

none of it. i'm just appalled at the abuses I see being inflicted on my fellow countrymen.


So vote Democrat. This would never happen in a place Democrats dominate.
 
2012-05-19 01:57:35 PM
By the way, the NDAA gives law enforcement the right to conduct warrantless raids. You can thank Obama for that one.
 
2012-05-19 01:58:15 PM
It would take too long to fill you in on the workings of the City of Chicago, but this is business as normal for them.
 
2012-05-19 01:58:34 PM

Oak: So vote Democrat. This would never happen in a place Democrats dominate.


i'm not sure what point it is you think you're trying to make...
 
2012-05-19 01:59:13 PM

9beers: By the way, the NDAA gives law enforcement the right to conduct warrantless raids. You can thank Obama the Republicans who attached the rider to a vital spending bill for that one.


FTFY, you revisionist dipshiat.
 
2012-05-19 02:00:14 PM

Weaver95: Oak: So vote Democrat. This would never happen in a place Democrats dominate.

i'm not sure what point it is you think you're trying to make...


Oh geeze man.. are you that uninformed about Chicago?
 
2012-05-19 02:00:31 PM

bim1154: If the farking protesters coming into Chicago didn't do their homework regarding the Chicago police dept. and what has happened in the past with protesters.... they are idiots and deserve every thing that happens to them.


This is what wingnuts actually believe.
 
2012-05-19 02:01:23 PM
You are kinda looking at this all wrong.
The Chicago Police and NG are one very good reason why the meetings are held in Chicago.

Those princes of the Best and Brightest might not feel safe in say, Omaha.
 
2012-05-19 02:02:03 PM
This article is incorrect. There was a warrant. See the link:

Link

...which includes both the documents filed in court today and the Tribune's own review of court records showing the warrant's signing, who signed it, and when.
 
2012-05-19 02:02:08 PM

9beers: By the way, the NDAA gives law enforcement the right to conduct warrantless raids. You can thank Obama for that one.


why is it that damn near every authoritarian out there bases 90% of their justifications on some variation of a Tu quoque fallacy...?
 
2012-05-19 02:02:49 PM

Weaver95: again - no warrant, no probable cause.


Prove that there was no warrant, that they even needed one, or that there was no probable cause. Three members of this group are now facing terrorism charges, I'd say the police obviously had probable cause, unless domestic terrorists are so common in Chicago that you can find one behind any random door you kick in.
 
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