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(Billings Gazette)   Tired of dealing with a couple drunks on your police shift and the jail is full? Drive them a mile outside of town and abandon them on the side of the road   (billingsgazette.com) divider line 46
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2012-05-19 12:01:57 AM
Some states fill up the local E.R.s with drunks.

/also a problem
 
2012-05-19 12:07:49 AM
I think you'd really need to take them at least 5 miles out of town if you really wanted the walk back to sober them up
 
2012-05-19 12:15:40 AM
Um, I would prefer that than going to jail.

But it sounds like they might have been odd birds wanting to go to jail. Ah, humanity.
 
2012-05-19 12:36:32 AM
But if he looks like the following, just leave him be...

i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-05-19 12:48:29 AM

UberDave: But if he looks like the following, just leave him be...

[i47.tinypic.com image 600x400]


or at least make sure you're very, very careful with him

/he bleeds easily
 
2012-05-19 01:24:08 AM
Around here they did that with a guy that was just guilty of possessing a couple of joints.
They took his shoes, and he had to walk a couple of miles over ice, and snow, in his stocking feet.

It did quite a bit of damage, and the cops were sued heavily.

Once you're determined to be drunk, or otherwise not of sober mind, aren't the cops responsible for you until you're determined to be capable, or they pass you off onto a friend, or relative who will be responsible for you?
 
2012-05-19 01:33:29 AM
1. Get hit by car
2. ???
3. Profit!
 
2012-05-19 01:57:55 AM
Chief Rich St. John said the resolution of the police department's internal affairs investigation was delayed because the incident was reviewed for possible criminal charges by the Montana Attorney General's office.

LOL
why wasnt the officer charged with kidnapping and criminal misconduct?
oh wait
he was white and the whitemans were black?
Never mind.
 
2012-05-19 02:23:46 AM

namatad: Chief Rich St. John said the resolution of the police department's internal affairs investigation was delayed because the incident was reviewed for possible criminal charges by the Montana Attorney General's office.

LOL
why wasnt the officer charged with kidnapping and criminal misconduct?
oh wait
he was white and the whitemans were black?
Never mind.


In Billings? They were native. Bet my bottom dollar.
 
2012-05-19 02:29:59 AM

TsarTom: In Billings? They were native. Bet my bottom dollar.


Steve and Janice ... you are probably still right ... plus WTF do I know about billings ...
could just be that they were complete white trash
 
2012-05-19 04:33:53 AM
A breath test showed Janice Whiteman had a blood-alcohol level of 0.264 percent, and Steven Whiteman's blood-alcohol level was 0.295 percent. The legal limit for driving is 0.08 percent.

Good thing they were walking then.
 
2012-05-19 04:43:51 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think you'd really need to take them at least 5 miles out of town if you really wanted the walk back to sober them up


1 mile drunk = 4 miles sober.

Been there. Done that.
 
2012-05-19 04:52:24 AM

TsarTom: namatad: Chief Rich St. John said the resolution of the police department's internal affairs investigation was delayed because the incident was reviewed for possible criminal charges by the Montana Attorney General's office.

LOL
why wasnt the officer charged with kidnapping and criminal misconduct?
oh wait
he was white and the whitemans were black?
Never mind.

In Billings? They were native. Bet my bottom dollar.


Yep.
 
2012-05-19 05:03:11 AM
We had a bit of a problem with that in Western Canada, where the local boys were wont to drive drunken Indians to the edge of town and drop them off. At night. In Winter.

Naturally, after a few of the natives froze to death, some people had a problem with that.

Personally, I'm not too fond of the similar custom of putting vagrants and other trouble on buses and paying the bus driver to make them somebody else's problem. There are some places I can only reach on a bus, as the trains and airplanes don't go there, and that is true of many respectable people who do not care to drive a thousand miles or more.

The police should not be dumping disciplinary problems on the general public. I believe that very firmly. They are paid to take the disciplinary problems away from the general public.

It is unfortunate for some of us that the police can only remand the loonies to the mental wards of hospitals for three days, for "examination", because some of these people are just as loony and dangerous when they get out after three days, even if the hospital staff do all they can and send them away with meds.

I'm pretty sure this is how it works:

1. Get antipsychotics from Royal Hospital.
2. Sell drugs immediately upon release.
3. Profit.

Repeat as necessary.

As liberal as I am, dangerously insane criminals scare me and I regret that governments, both liberal and conservative, prefer to dump people who are a danger to themselves and others onto the street or onto the wrong social institutions, rather than pay for their keep.

The cops, the firemen, the hospital staff, the general public ... even if they have training in dealing with the derelicts of society, shouldn't have to deal with them so some dumbass voter can elect some dumbass politician who wants to make dumbass cuts to budgets.

PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES, FOOL! If the streets are full of people who are so dangerous looking that the police feel obliged to shoot them, you are not paying enough taxes, whatever you and your con-artist betters may think or say.

A lot of injustice is directed at marginal groups of people, but all in all, it might be wise to be cruel to be kind in some cases, which means maintaining ample establishments of incarceration and treatment for those who are incurable given existing means or perhaps incurable at a reasonable cost.

The tax revolters of Proposition 13 in California have a lot to answer for as it is. By the way, I read a fun fact today: out of the last 26 years, Republicans have governed California for 22. Or something like that. I may have misremembered the total length of time, but the four years of Democratic mis-rule is correct and the point is sound.

You can not have your cake after eating it. Unless you are eating s*** cakes, of course.
 
2012-05-19 05:06:04 AM

TommyymmoT: Around here they did that with a guy that was just guilty of possessing a couple of joints.
They took his shoes, and he had to walk a couple of miles over ice, and snow, in his stocking feet.

It did quite a bit of damage, and the cops were sued heavily.

Once you're determined to be drunk, or otherwise not of sober mind, aren't the cops responsible for you until you're determined to be capable, or they pass you off onto a friend, or relative who will be responsible for you?


Now there're a couple of words you don't often see together.
 
2012-05-19 05:33:03 AM
NOT saying I have done this...

Receive call about drunk in your local waffle house.
Arrive and find out that another agency has transported said drunk to your waffle house.
Transport said drunk to yet another agencies waffle house or back to the agency who gave you the drunk.

You have played "Pass the drunk".
 
2012-05-19 05:33:14 AM

brantgoose: PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES, FOOL! If the streets are full of people who are so dangerous looking that the police feel obliged to shoot them, you are not paying enough taxes, whatever you and your con-artist betters may think or say.


Oh, go on. This is fascinating, so far. What do taxes have to do with people in your neighborhood that scare you, and why do you consider con-artists our betters?

/popcorn
 
2012-05-19 05:33:32 AM
this article brought to you by McCafe
 
2012-05-19 05:45:52 AM
A mile? that's hardly a punishment.
I do that plus more most times I'm drunk.

/pussies
 
2012-05-19 05:53:45 AM
My senior year of high school, I got pulled over in my mom's minivan while driving back from a rural field party at about 3 AM. I had an open 16oz beer between my legs and the rest of the six pack in the passenger's seat. I'd smoked weed just before I left and had eaten two pills of Ecstasy earlier that night. Too keep from getting sleepy, I'd bought a gram of coke off my buddy to snort with my buddy who worked at Waffle House back in town.

I'm a decent looking guy, especially back then, before the drugs and alcohol took their toll. I think that helped because it was a woman cop, nice looking chick who'd been in school with my older sister. She was part of the K-9 drug unit though and of course she had the damn dog with her. Long story short, she immediately spots the beers and Officer Rover finds the coke and bag of weed I'd hidden in the glove box. I figured I was going to jail.

But, considering graduation was the next week, she let me off light. She made me pull my car far off to the side and put one of those orange stickers on the window to mark that it'd been observed as abandon by the police. She let me sit in the front seat of the cruiser, which was cool, because the dog was a farking spaz, barking and nipping at me. I think when it found the coke the baggy might have been a little bit open.

So, she drove me out to this abandon house in the middle of nowhere. She took me and the dog upstairs where she forced me to have intercourse with it while she took photographs. At first I was just supposed to jerk it off, but then she said that only dismissed count one, so I had to blow it. The coke made the dog have the four hour hard on because I could not get that farker to come. Finally, after I'd failed at blowing his red rocket to white foamy release, she made me take off my pants and get down on all fours. The dog knew what he was doing because he jammed that nine inches of skinny red pencil up my rectum and then pumped away until I was filled up with dog love.

Pretty embarrassing knowing that those photos are out there, but it's better than my life being totally farked up.
 
2012-05-19 06:04:43 AM

spentmiles: My senior year of high school...yawn


Try getting pulled by the RCMP
 
2012-05-19 06:07:36 AM

spentmiles: My senior year of high school, I got pulled over in my mom's minivan while driving back from a rural field party at about 3 AM. I had an open 16oz beer between my legs and the rest of the six pack in the passenger's seat. I'd smoked weed just before I left and had eaten two pills of Ecstasy earlier that night. Too keep from getting sleepy, I'd bought a gram of coke off my buddy to snort with my buddy who worked at Waffle House back in town.

I'm a decent looking guy, especially back then, before the drugs and alcohol took their toll. I think that helped because it was a woman cop, nice looking chick who'd been in school with my older sister. She was part of the K-9 drug unit though and of course she had the damn dog with her. Long story short, she immediately spots the beers and Officer Rover finds the coke and bag of weed I'd hidden in the glove box. I figured I was going to jail.

But, considering graduation was the next week, she let me off light. She made me pull my car far off to the side and put one of those orange stickers on the window to mark that it'd been observed as abandon by the police. She let me sit in the front seat of the cruiser, which was cool, because the dog was a farking spaz, barking and nipping at me. I think when it found the coke the baggy might have been a little bit open.

So, she drove me out to this abandon house in the middle of nowhere. She took me and the dog upstairs where she forced me to have intercourse with it while she took photographs. At first I was just supposed to jerk it off, but then she said that only dismissed count one, so I had to blow it. The coke made the dog have the four hour hard on because I could not get that farker to come. Finally, after I'd failed at blowing his red rocket to white foamy release, she made me take off my pants and get down on all fours. The dog knew what he was doing because he jammed that nine inches of skinny red pencil up my rectum and then pumped away until I was filled up ...


Not too worry,, at least you made graduation.
 
2012-05-19 06:25:54 AM

StinkyFiddlewinks: spentmiles: My senior year of high school...yawn

Try getting pulled by the RCMP


when the lady RCMP pull you its not so bad
 
2012-05-19 06:29:09 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: A breath test showed Janice Whiteman had a blood-alcohol level of 0.264 percent, and Steven Whiteman's blood-alcohol level was 0.295 percent. The legal limit for driving is 0.08 percent.

Good thing they were walking then.


Came for this.

WTF!
 
2012-05-19 06:50:07 AM

StoPPeRmobile: AverageAmericanGuy: A breath test showed Janice Whiteman had a blood-alcohol level of 0.264 percent, and Steven Whiteman's blood-alcohol level was 0.295 percent. The legal limit for driving is 0.08 percent.

Good thing they were walking then.

Came for this.

WTF!


Apparently you can be charged with public intoxication. I was arrested once based on that.
 
2012-05-19 06:50:35 AM
With all the problems this offier has with ollowing rules ; WHY is he still a police officer?
 
2012-05-19 07:00:12 AM
spentmiles: My senior year of high school, I got pulled over in my mom's minivan while driving back from a rural field party at about 3 AM. I had an open 16oz beer between my legs and the rest of the six pack in the passenger's seat. I'd smoked weed just before I left and had eaten two pills of Ecstasy earlier that night. Too keep from getting sleepy, I'd bought a gram of coke off my buddy to snort with my buddy who worked at Waffle House back in town.

I'm a decent looking guy, especially back then, before the drugs and alcohol took their toll. I think that helped because it was a woman cop, nice looking chick who'd been in school with my older sister. She was part of the K-9 drug unit though and of course she had the damn dog with her. Long story short, she immediately spots the beers and Officer Rover finds the coke and bag of weed I'd hidden in the glove box. I figured I was going to jail.

But, considering graduation was the next week, she let me off light. She made me pull my car far off to the side and put one of those orange stickers on the window to mark that it'd been observed as abandon by the police. She let me sit in the front seat of the cruiser, which was cool, because the dog was a farking spaz, barking and nipping at me. I think when it found the coke the baggy might have been a little bit open.

So, she drove me out to this abandon house in the middle of nowhere. She took me and the dog upstairs where she forced me to have intercourse with it while she took photographs. At first I was just supposed to jerk it off, but then she said that only dismissed count one, so I had to blow it. The coke made the dog have the four hour hard on because I could not get that farker to come. Finally, after I'd failed at blowing his red rocket to white foamy release, she made me take off my pants and get down on all fours. The dog knew what he was doing because he jammed that nine inches of skinny red pencil up my rectum and then pumped away until I was fil ...


I can't fap to this.
 
2012-05-19 07:23:50 AM
So what was he supposed to do, take them home with him?
 
2012-05-19 07:26:05 AM
Billings Police Officer Paul Lamantia has been disciplined for driving an intoxicated man and woman outside the city limits and leaving them on the side of a two-lane highway at 3 a.m. on a cold January night.

That's amusing to you subby? EABOD and DIAF.
 
2012-05-19 07:30:52 AM
Part of the article suggested he mostly got in trouble for leaving his posted area to deal with these people. He involved himself because he knew them. Now he knows to wait until he is actually called to handle an incident and then beat them until he can hold them at the ER. Okay problem solved, a better trained officer is now at work.
 
2012-05-19 07:48:01 AM
My grandfather depending on the drunk,especially if the drunk was my fiance's father, would drive him home instead of taking him to county jail. My grandpa was pretty damn awesome.
 
2012-05-19 07:56:03 AM
Whitemans' Burden
 
2012-05-19 08:11:27 AM
Next time put them in a dryer to dry out. No suspension for that.
 
2012-05-19 08:15:32 AM
"Lamantia" v "Whiteman"? Lamantia had to go for cultural diversity training?

Speculating is fun. Guessing Lamantia is Hispanic, probably a linguistical corruption of "de La Mancha"...
 
2012-05-19 08:22:33 AM
"PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES, FOOL! If the streets are full of people who are so dangerous looking that the police feel obliged to shoot them, you are not paying enough taxes, whatever you and your con-artist betters may think or say."

And this is the solution for everything.......man, you guys are broken records.

You act as if taxes are the magic "exilir" that will turn our world into Utopia. Bet it won't keep a douchebag cop from dropping two drunks off on the side of the road though.

Maybe another taxpayer funded program to teach African men how to wash their junk would be of help.....hmmmm.
 
2012-05-19 08:31:19 AM

Death_Poot: "PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES, FOOL! If the streets are full of people who are so dangerous looking that the police feel obliged to shoot them, you are not paying enough taxes, whatever you and your con-artist betters may think or say."

And this is the solution for everything.......man, you guys are broken records.

You act as if taxes are the magic "exilir" that will turn our world into Utopia. Bet it won't keep a douchebag cop from dropping two drunks off on the side of the road though.

Maybe another taxpayer funded program to teach African men how to wash their junk would be of help.....hmmmm.


It's difficult to point this sort of thing out to the sort of person who sees the world only in extremes, but to suggest that some sense of fiscal and social responsibility on the part of the public might help a bit does not constitute saying that taxes will solve all social problem. It's much harder to argue a real point than it is to fight this guy, but it is also more rewarding in the long run.
i18.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-19 08:40:03 AM
So a couple of homeless people want a warm place to stay on a Winter night and the police kidnap them and try to kill them with exposure. And the police get a 4 month vacation out of it.

/God Bless America
//I farking hate what this country has become.
///Its full of cowards and bullies.
 
2012-05-19 08:44:03 AM

jso2897: Death_Poot: "PAY YOUR DAMN TAXES, FOOL! If the streets are full of people who are so dangerous looking that the police feel obliged to shoot them, you are not paying enough taxes, whatever you and your con-artist betters may think or say."

And this is the solution for everything.......man, you guys are broken records.

You act as if taxes are the magic "exilir" that will turn our world into Utopia. Bet it won't keep a douchebag cop from dropping two drunks off on the side of the road though.

Maybe another taxpayer funded program to teach African men how to wash their junk would be of help.....hmmmm.

It's difficult to point this sort of thing out to the sort of person who sees the world only in extremes, but to suggest that some sense of fiscal and social responsibility on the part of the public might help a bit does not constitute saying that taxes will solve all social problem. It's much harder to argue a real point than it is to fight this guy, but it is also more rewarding in the long run.
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Ya. i was being flippant, but I'm tired of hearing our taxes ought to go up for a particular reason, and when they do, government agencies divert the money for purposes other than what the increase was for. Or, they do use it and then demand more a later because the problem still exists. You'd be out the door for either quickly in the private sector.

I'm also tired of hearing people use the idea of tax increases to solve everything from obesity to police misconduct. If you want to call this a "strawman" instead of explaining to me how this idea is true and proven, please do. If not, you're wasting both our time as well.

And, it wouldnt have stopped this idiot from acting out on two drunks who were acting out. Explain to me how more programs to help drunks get better treatment would have stopped that. An asshole cop is an asshole cop.
 
2012-05-19 08:47:15 AM

Death_Poot: but to suggest that some sense of fiscal and social responsibility on the part of the public


Also, tell us what you mean by this instead of using buzzphrases....reminds me of the over use of the word "fair" lately. Either the phrase that I cited or the word "fair" can mean anything you want it to mean.
 
2012-05-19 09:03:01 AM

TommyymmoT: Around here they did that with a guy that was just guilty of possessing a couple of joints.
They took his shoes, and he had to walk a couple of miles over ice, and snow, in his stocking feet.

It did quite a bit of damage, and the cops were sued heavily.

Once you're determined to be drunk, or otherwise not of sober mind, aren't the cops responsible for you until you're determined to be capable, or they pass you off onto a friend, or relative who will be responsible for you?


That's how it is in Texas, but, according to the Wiki, Public Intoxication isn't an offense, but a person can be detained or taken home by police if they're deemed a danger to themselves or others.

Wiki-drunk

Montana PC
 
2012-05-19 09:17:32 AM
At least its better than when the DC cops marched a herd of hookers to Virginia.
 
2012-05-19 09:30:01 AM
Spentmiles, BS artiste.

/never a tldr
 
2012-05-19 11:16:24 AM
What? Butthurt?
Sign me up for this service.

Just like back in the day.
CSB; "By the time you walk home, you will be sober."
 
2012-05-19 11:54:43 AM

Shotgun Justice: So a couple of homeless people want a warm place to stay on a Winter night and the police kidnap them and try to kill them with exposure idiots continuously bother the police.... wasting time and resources... because they can't stay sober and take some responsibility for themselves. And the police get a 4 month vacation out of it punished for trying to break them of such asinine and childish behavior.

/God Bless America !!!
//I farking hate what this country has become cop bashers.
///Its full ofCop bashers are cowards and bullies.



FTFY
 
2012-05-19 12:35:00 PM
Perennial homeless?

Hell, yes.
 
2012-05-19 12:38:54 PM

brantgoose: The tax revolters of Proposition 13 in California have a lot to answer for as it is. By the way, I read a fun fact today: out of the last 26 years, Republicans have governed California for 22. Or something like that. I may have misremembered the total length of time, but the four years of Democratic mis-rule is correct and the point is sound.


what was your point? other than the GOP is to blame for the problems in CA?
 
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