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2012-05-18 02:06:14 PM
If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.
 
2012-05-18 02:13:52 PM
It helps not to invest in shady business dealings with sociopaths like Dan Borislow. The confidential settling of that court case probably bankrupted WPS.
 
2012-05-18 02:16:16 PM

rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.


Hey mods, is there anyway we can block this comment from the League Commissioner of the WNBA?
 
2012-05-18 02:27:41 PM
Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.
 
2012-05-18 02:36:44 PM

bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.


So roughly 27,000 under capacity. I don't know if I would call getting a less than 2/3 capacity crowd for the biggest match of the year a success, but small steps, I guess.
 
2012-05-18 02:38:17 PM

SigmaAlgebra: bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.

So roughly 27,000 under capacity. I don't know if I would call getting a less than 2/3 capacity crowd for the biggest match of the year a success, but small steps, I guess.


i think what matters is, could the stadium have planned another event that would have filled it up beyond 2/3 capacity on that day?

/ any profit is profit.
 
2012-05-18 02:40:41 PM

BudTheSpud: It helps not to invest in shady business dealings with sociopaths like Dan Borislow. The confidential settling of that court case probably bankrupted WPS.


Or really, it helps not to invest in personal dealings with him either.

Apparently, "Hey, I'll take you to a hospital" means "We're going to Atlantic City for two days to party with my friends" to him.
 
2012-05-18 02:49:26 PM
I'd watch it if they were playing soccer while being hot and naked.
 
2012-05-18 02:51:34 PM

bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.


Very true. Even though people watched the women's World Cup, we won't support a women's professional soccer league, because really, who cares? Our sports calendar is pretty full from April-August when this league was playing their games.
 
2012-05-18 02:53:44 PM
repeat?
 
2012-05-18 02:54:52 PM

bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.


what was the attendance at their regular season games?
 
2012-05-18 03:00:40 PM
We had to make room for the USFL, right?
 
2012-05-18 03:02:49 PM

InfrasonicTom: bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.

what was the attendance at their regular season games?


Other than the Womens World Cup final in 1999, when has any women's sports league game at any level can draw 50k for their championship game in the U.S.?
 
2012-05-18 03:11:01 PM
Wait.....there was a Women's Professional Soccer league? I'm not being snarky, I genuinely had no clue.
 
2012-05-18 03:13:17 PM

rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick.


Women's tennis is fun to watch. And not just because of the skirts and the grunting, it's a legitimately compelling sport to watch.
 
2012-05-18 03:14:16 PM
Isnt this the 2nd time they went bust? It was a heck of a bust!
 
2012-05-18 03:19:47 PM
Does this mean Hope Solo and Alex Morgan can go into porn? Yes please!
 
2012-05-18 03:20:36 PM

7th Son of a 7th Son: Wait.....there was a Women's Professional Soccer league? I'm not being snarky, I genuinely had no clue.


'sokay, neither did the players:
The average WPS player salary in 2010 was about $27,000, with U.S. Women's national team players and top internationals earning around double that. To the average person, that sounds like a modest wage. In most cities it is barely livable.

"Players are willing to do what it takes to make this league work," [FC Gold Pride player Kristen] Graczyk said. "In saying that, this is a professional league and it needs to be treated as professional. Once you start treating players like semipro it is questionable. I think there are a lot of things that go into team budgets and player salaries aren't the only thing."
 
2012-05-18 03:23:08 PM

dletter: InfrasonicTom: bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.

what was the attendance at their regular season games?

Other than the Womens World Cup final in 1999, when has any women's sports league game at any level can draw 50k for their championship game in the U.S.?


It just depends on how much money Nike and Adidas decide to put into it to tell everyone how cool it is.
 
2012-05-18 03:23:29 PM

Yanks_RSJ: bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.

Very true. Even though people watched the women's World Cup, we won't support a women's professional soccer league, because really, who cares? Our sports calendar is pretty full from April-August when this league was playing their games.


The biggest problem for any sports league in America is the sheer amount of saturation. Not only is soccer generally the most popular sports in European countries, it also doesn't have 3 other major sports to compete against. When start up leagues in the US fail, it's because of the saturation, not an inherent bias against the league/sport.
 
2012-05-18 03:25:15 PM
Women were playing pro soccer in the US? Pics or it didn't happen.
 
2012-05-18 03:28:00 PM
I blame that creepy, predatory Gatoraid commercial... ick!
 
2012-05-18 03:31:27 PM
Kennesaw State got a nice soccer stadium out of the deal I guess.

I'd rather watch women's soccer than an NBA game. Women's boxing is pretty entertaining as well.
 
2012-05-18 03:47:18 PM

7th Son of a 7th Son: Wait.....there was a Women's Professional Soccer league? I'm not being snarky, I genuinely had no clue.


I don't know about this one, but in the previous women's league they put their weekly nationaly televised game directly opposite the MLS's. Instead of working together to their mutual benefit they detracted from each other until the women eventually folded. Dumb.
 
2012-05-18 03:49:20 PM
I guess having owners who are creepy pervs doesn't help any.
 
2012-05-18 03:52:18 PM

Crewmannumber6: 7th Son of a 7th Son: Wait.....there was a Women's Professional Soccer league? I'm not being snarky, I genuinely had no clue.

I don't know about this one, but in the previous women's league they put their weekly nationaly televised game directly opposite the MLS's. Instead of working together to their mutual benefit they detracted from each other until the women eventually folded. Dumb.


well, not everyone wants competition. i think men's soccer was afraid that women's soccer would distract female fans. the new market in sports are the female fans. look at wow american football is being marketed to the ladies.
 
2012-05-18 03:55:03 PM

germ78: I guess having owners who are creepy pervs doesn't help any.


you say creepy perv like that's a bad thing.
 
2012-05-18 03:56:03 PM
www.wearysloth.com

There was one?
 
2012-05-18 03:57:00 PM

rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.


Putting the goalie on Dancing With The Stars isn't a gimmick?
 
2012-05-18 04:02:30 PM
I would have liked to see the league do well, but I guess I never really made an effort to follow it either. I'd watch the few games that they elevised on ESPN8 when they were on though, and it would have been cool to take my daughter to games if Kansas City ever got a team.

Oh well, try again in a decade, and vet the owners a bit more this time.
 
2012-05-18 04:06:50 PM
Lingerie football league still going strong
 
2012-05-18 04:20:14 PM

Dinobot: I'd watch it if they were playing soccer while being hot and naked.


Wait, the girls need to be attractive or hot and sweaty? I would prefer the former but to each his own.
 
2012-05-18 04:23:43 PM

Halstread: Dinobot: I'd watch it if they were playing soccer while being hot and naked.

Wait, the girls need to be attractive or hot and sweaty? I would prefer the former but to each his own.


Why not all three? attractive, hot and sweaty?
 
2012-05-18 04:24:27 PM

Dinobot: I'd watch it if they were playing soccer while being hot and naked.


In fact, forget the soccer!
 
2012-05-18 04:31:28 PM
pitchinvasion.net

Is this a repeat from 2003?

/attended 2 WUSA games back then. I believe that qualified me as a part-ownerof the league.
 
2012-05-18 04:35:45 PM

Crewmannumber6: germ78: I guess having owners who are creepy pervs doesn't help any.

you say creepy perv like that's a bad thing.


Ok, maybe not all creepy pervs, but definitely the asshole creepy pervs. :-p
 
2012-05-18 04:38:58 PM

Gosling: rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.

Putting the goalie on Dancing With The Stars isn't a gimmick?


I mean plenty of other sports have had athletes compete on the show. If it's a gimmick, it's an extremely common one, which kind of undermines the purpose of a gimmick.
 
2012-05-18 04:44:13 PM

TheGreatGazoo: Kennesaw State got a nice soccer stadium out of the deal I guess.

I'd rather watch women's soccer than an NBA game. Women's boxing is pretty entertaining as well.


It is a shame. Women's sports are great. There is so much potential for unintentional hilarity at any second. Once, I happened to be watching a WNBA game at a friend's house and got to see Lisa Leslie stuff herself on the bottom of the rim in an effort to throw down a biatchin' dunk. It was sweet.

Ah well, I guess I will just have to start watching the Special Olympics.
 
2012-05-18 04:54:37 PM
I watched it a bit two years ago. I enjoyed it, actually. The soccer wasn't always great, but what fans there were enjoyed themselves and players seemed to care.
 
2012-05-18 05:08:28 PM

Theaetetus: 'sokay, neither did the players:
The average WPS player salary in 2010 was about $27,000, with U.S. Women's national team players and top internationals earning around double that. To the average person, that sounds like a modest wage. In most cities it is barely livable.


I know you just quoted the article, so, I am barking at the writer of the article:

Where TF does an "average person" live then? It isn't "fun", but, a single person can get by with $27k, even in the "city". And where is it written that if you play for the Atlanta team for example that you have to live in downtown Atlanta. Get an apartment in a suburb.

And, come on, a person whose only job is "Women's Professional Soccer Player" IS an "average person"... the article writer seems to be somewhat insinuating that these players are "above average people". They are not a "star", and if they are for some reason, they are getting income from other opportunities, and the fact that the soccer team is only paying them $30k doesn't matter.
 
2012-05-18 05:12:10 PM

rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.


Two words if they want more people (ie, male sports fans) to pay attention: spandex uniforms.

From this...
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To this...

www.taylorcointl.com
 
2012-05-18 05:33:46 PM
Travesty that awful womens sports leagues like WNBA are fed big $$ to lose money...when women's leagues with some actual athletes (soccer) can never get any footing professionally

The only reason the WNBA still exists is because there are enough people w $$$ who are afraid to defund it because they will be called racist, sexist, homophobic, intolerant, etc. No secret that WNBA has a large share of non-white ugly ogres...and women's soccer does not. Heck....even most of the non-hetero female soccer players are attractive
 
2012-05-18 05:38:22 PM
Show me one hot Soccer play.

.....or two or three...
 
2012-05-18 05:52:55 PM

dletter: rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.

Two words if they want more people (ie, male sports fans) to pay attention: spandex uniforms.

From this...
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To this...

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I'm all for spandex uniforms, but it seems unfair that you want to make professional soccer players play volleyball instead.

/hint: soccer players don't wear kneepads
 
2012-05-18 06:27:38 PM

Uzzah: dletter: rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.

Two words if they want more people (ie, male sports fans) to pay attention: spandex uniforms.

From this...
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To this...

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I'm all for spandex uniforms, but it seems unfair that you want to make professional soccer players play volleyball instead.

/hint: soccer players don't wear kneepads


The kneepads are for the after the game celebrations...
 
2012-05-18 07:01:22 PM

pute kisses like a man: SigmaAlgebra: bubbaprog: Meanwhile, the Women's Champions League final in Munich had 50,000 in attendance. So it's not a women's sports thing, it's an America thing.

So roughly 27,000 under capacity. I don't know if I would call getting a less than 2/3 capacity crowd for the biggest match of the year a success, but small steps, I guess.

i think what matters is, could the stadium have planned another event that would have filled it up beyond 2/3 capacity on that day?

/ any profit is profit.


A men's soccer game.
 
2012-05-18 07:40:05 PM
so now lesbians will only have golf and wnba to watch?
 
2012-05-18 08:09:16 PM

dletter: rumpelstiltskin: If you want us to watch women's sports, you need a gimmick. Like that women's wrestling website, where after the match the winner hikes up a strapon and mauls the loser. That's pretty popular. Why couldn't the WPS do something like that? It's like they don't even want us to watch.

Two words if they want more people (ie, male sports fans) to pay attention: spandex uniforms.

From this...
[i.cdn.turner.com image 298x493]

To this...

[www.taylorcointl.com image 640x658]


I'd be happy with this
thesportsunion.com
 
2012-05-18 08:11:14 PM
api.ning.com
Recently deceased.
upload.wikimedia.org
Soon.
 
2012-05-18 08:56:15 PM
It sounds like the new league will be a pro-am one, so maybe that will be more successful. We shall see...
 
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