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2012-05-18 10:40:12 AM  
So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.
 
2012-05-18 10:41:47 AM  
Also wasn't Martin supposed to be talking on his cellphone with his girlfriend? It doesn't seem to list a cellphone as one of his possessions.
 
2012-05-18 10:45:19 AM  
This is turning into a f*cking circus. Someone get Nancy Grace on the story, that'll be the perfect frosting

/how about we not try this case in the media?
 
2012-05-18 10:46:36 AM  
I'm sure all of this will be a great comfort to Martin's parents.
 
2012-05-18 10:56:26 AM  

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.


No, the evidence shows that Martin had traces of THC in his system. That's not the same as being high.

It also doesn't say anything about the fact that Zimmerman started the entire thing, or does Martin somehow not qualify for the stand your ground laws? You know, the guy who did actually have somebody stalk and attack him?
 
2012-05-18 11:00:28 AM  
THC? Marijuana? OH NOES. CLEARLY HE WAS GOING 90 MILES AN HOUR AS HE LEAPED FULL SPEED AT ZIMMERMAN.

Pot is a depressant, all you retards submitting threads on this yesterday. It dulls your reaction speed and slows you down. Jesus christ, the kid was stoned and went out for Skittles and an Arizona's. Substitute any generic junk food in for either of those and you're describing 70% of college students in any given state, in any given country.
 
2012-05-18 11:05:16 AM  
The police report says that Martin's father told police that the voice heard calling for help on a 911 tape before the gunshot was not his son. That's significant.
 
2012-05-18 11:08:34 AM  
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2012-05-18 11:13:08 AM  
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2012-05-18 11:13:20 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian:
Pot is a depressant, all you retards submitting threads on this yesterday. It dulls your reaction speed and slows you down.


It also tends to make you paranoid and prone to doing stupid shiat. Like attacking a guy for reporting to the police that you look suspicious and might be on drugs.
 
2012-05-18 11:15:23 AM  
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2012-05-18 11:16:19 AM  

jbuist: NeedlesslyCanadian:
Pot is a depressant, all you retards submitting threads on this yesterday. It dulls your reaction speed and slows you down.

It also tends to make you paranoid and prone to doing stupid shiat.

Yes.


Like attacking a guy for reporting to the police that you look suspicious and might be on drugs.

No, not so much. Troubling, that whole 'slows you down' and 'makes you lazy' thing, but reality isn't quite so convenient as OMGHEWASONDRUGS.

 
2012-05-18 11:17:00 AM  
HTML fail. Happy weekend, everyone.
 
2012-05-18 11:18:42 AM  
1) Didn't the reports yesterday say these photos were from the following day, not the same night?

2) Why has it taken months for them to come out, particularly with all of the complaints about the video at the police station not showing any blood? If they had still photos, why did we have to go through that week of "look, the video shows nothing! Oh, we've enhanced the video, and maybe there's something... But this video-enhancement guy disagrees and suggests it's just an artifact..."? Why didn't the police just say "here's a full color close up photo"? Were they trying to start riots?
 
2012-05-18 11:26:57 AM  

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.


Traces of THC in his system are irrelevant to the case. The fact that Martin was on top of him is likely more than enough to convince a jury that he was in fear for his life at the moment he fired the shot.

Yes, he's going to walk, and per the law he probably should. It's still a very unfortunate situation that Zimmerman started.
 
2012-05-18 11:31:32 AM  
A THC level of 1.5 ng/mL of blood isn't very much, certainly not what you expect for someone who smoked recently enough to be high. I seriously doubt he was high at the time. I'm not a pathologist, though. But if I had a case and was looking at an intoxication issue on a live person, I wouldn't think that was an intoxicating level of THC. He probably was a marijuana user, but I don't think he was high.
 
2012-05-18 11:32:08 AM  

nekom: Traces of THC in his system are irrelevant to the case. The fact that Martin was on top of him is likely more than enough to convince a jury that he was in fear for his life at the moment he fired the shot.

Yes, he's going to walk, and per the law he probably should. It's still a very unfortunate situation that Zimmerman started.


Seriously?
 
2012-05-18 11:32:17 AM  

Theaetetus: 2) Why has it taken months for them to come out, particularly with all of the complaints about the video at the police station not showing any blood? If they had still photos, why did we have to go through that week of "look, the video shows nothing! Oh, we've enhanced the video, and maybe there's something... But this video-enhancement guy disagrees and suggests it's just an artifact..."? Why didn't the police just say "here's a full color close up photo"? Were they trying to start riots?


Seriously, it does change the story a bit if the guy really was beaten down, though the fact that he got out of his car and started the altercation does strike me as a significant factor in this case. The marijuana? Who cares about that, honestly?

No matter what happens in this case, justice will not be served because Zimmerman was already tried and convicted by the media and the whole country, and Trayvon Martin is still an unarmed teenager who is dead due to the overzealous neighborhood watch guy who couldn't just be content with staying in his car and allowing the real police to do their jobs. And I hate to say it, but if Zimmerman goes free, I fully expect riots. And probably not just in Florida, the way this got -- and continues to get -- covered.
 
2012-05-18 11:35:27 AM  

kingoomieiii: Seriously?


Unless my understanding of Florida law is wrong here SYG isn't a factor here, if he can convince a jury that a reasonable person felt that their life is in danger at the time he fired, that's all it takes even if the situation is one of his own creation. Following Martin around was stupid, possibly racist, almost certainly some sort of wawnna-be cop power trip thing, BUT not against the law.

I'm talking letter of the law here. I don't think Zimmerman's actions were appropriate and they cost a young man hist life, but I don't think he's broken any laws. There's certainly no case for 2nd degree murder.
 
2012-05-18 11:37:20 AM  
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And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.
 
2012-05-18 11:39:56 AM  

kingoomieiii: And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.


And why is there no blood on his clothes from a supposedly broken nose and head wound? You'd really think there would be some blood on his clothing after all of this. (Maybe they changed his clothes? You'd think there would also be spatter from shooting someone at close range as well)
 
2012-05-18 11:39:56 AM  
Woo hoo another damn trial where there is only black and white on the issue.
 
2012-05-18 11:43:21 AM  

nekom: Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.

Traces of THC in his system are irrelevant to the case. The fact that Martin was on top of him is likely more than enough to convince a jury that he was in fear for his life at the moment he fired the shot.

Yes, he's going to walk, and per the law he probably should. It's still a very unfortunate situation that Zimmerman started.


I have to agree. Zimmerman started it but once Martin had him on the ground and was slamming him, as the witness said, I think the jury is going to have enough to let him go on murder. He should be found guilty of something though.
 
2012-05-18 11:44:23 AM  
You dipshiat losers will never get your beloved race riots. There will be nothing good to watch on TV. Nothing exciting will happen to enliven your dead end existence. You still have to go to work. Your wife still won't touch you. Your daughter will still dresses like a whore.

You're just waiting to die and this dream of a race riot is for something exciting to happen before your family is sitting around you in a hospital, waiting for you to finally die so they can get a bite to eat.
 
2012-05-18 11:45:20 AM  

serpent_sky: kingoomieiii: And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.

And why is there no blood on his clothes from a supposedly broken nose and head wound? You'd really think there would be some blood on his clothing after all of this. (Maybe they changed his clothes? You'd think there would also be spatter from shooting someone at close range as well)


Yeah... That's why it made more sense if those photos were supposedly the next day - he could've showered and changed clothing first.

... but then, you wonder about the broken nose which shows no bruising... If it's a full day later, he's going to have some bruising there. So that one kinda makes more sense if it's the same day.

... or, the simple explanation that answers both the lack of blood on his clothing and the lack of bruising and why the photos were originally described as being the next day: he did it to himself, the next day, to support his story, and the cops are helping with the cover up.
 
2012-05-18 11:48:45 AM  

Theaetetus: ... or, the simple explanation that answers both the lack of blood on his clothing and the lack of bruising and why the photos were originally described as being the next day: he did it to himself, the next day, to support his story, and the cops are helping with the cover up.


Why would the cops want to get involved in a cover-up to protect some cop wannabe? Believe me - I know that happens. We just had a huge federal case down here involving a cover-up in a shooting on Danziger Bridge a few days after Katrina, but that seems to be a bit of a stretch to me in this situation where the police were not directly involved in the shooting.
 
2012-05-18 11:49:38 AM  

Theaetetus: Yeah... That's why it made more sense if those photos were supposedly the next day - he could've showered and changed clothing first.


but then, if that were the case, the trickles from what looks like two small gashes would not be there.

I don't want to sound like a kooky conspiracy theorist, but something is really not right with these photos. As you also noted, there is a lack of bruising on his nose and head. I once fell backwards and hit my head on a step, and ended up, rather quickly, with a baseball sized lump and I assume it was quite bruised, but I couldn't tell because it was under my hair.
 
2012-05-18 11:56:19 AM  
I guess the paramedics who responded at the scene are in on the conspiracy, too, since they reported injuries to Zimmerman's face and head.
 
2012-05-18 11:59:39 AM  

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.


A good defense will just say that Martin wouldn't have had to be in the altercation at all had Zimmerman not pursued and accosted him.

Find it hard to get too worked up about this case, though.
 
2012-05-18 12:01:50 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.

A good defense will just say that Martin wouldn't have had to be in the altercation at all had Zimmerman not pursued and accosted him.

Find it hard to get too worked up about this case, though.


I suppose that would be a good prosecutor on cross, but what do I know, I'm just a Beast.
 
2012-05-18 12:02:25 PM  

serpent_sky: kingoomieiii: And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.

And why is there no blood on his clothes from a supposedly broken nose and head wound? You'd really think there would be some blood on his clothing after all of this. (Maybe they changed his clothes? You'd think there would also be spatter from shooting someone at close range as well)


If they made him change clothes, there would be photos of the bloody clothes. Maybe there are, but they're not at this article.
 
2012-05-18 12:04:42 PM  
Oh, look...

1.bp.blogspot.com

...it's this thread again.


/hot
 
2012-05-18 12:15:53 PM  

Rapmaster2000: You dipshiat losers will never get your beloved race riots. There will be nothing good to watch on TV. Nothing exciting will happen to enliven your dead end existence. You still have to go to work. Your wife still won't touch you. Your daughter will still dresses like a whore.

You're just waiting to die and this dream of a race riot is for something exciting to happen before your family is sitting around you in a hospital, waiting for you to finally die so they can get a bite to eat.


I think you're wrong.
It's a chance for me to get all new stuff.
 
2012-05-18 12:45:58 PM  
The most relevant evidence in this whole case is that the kid was running away when Zimmerman got out of the car and chased him.

If a strange guy were following me, then after I started running away got out of his car and started chasing me, I'd take the first chance I got to sit on top of him and bash his skull against the ground. How can Zimmerman act in self-defense if chased the kid when he ran away?

You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.
 
2012-05-18 01:08:53 PM  

kingoomieiii: [content.clearchannel.com image 600x544]

And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.


I bleed more than that when I cut myself shaving (my shiny bald head).

But The Trayvon had the THC in his system? Well that seals it. The kid had the Reefer Madness. Sure, all bets are off once they're taking marijuana.
 
2012-05-18 01:08:54 PM  
step one: initiate altercation with teenage boy
step two: shoot him when he fights back
step three: claim self defence

am I missing anything?
 
2012-05-18 01:09:19 PM  
I'm glad this hit the main page so we can have a reasonable discussion about what REALLY happened.

I think this will be the time that we can all agree that George Zimmerman, Neighborhood Hero, was vigilantly defending the community when out of the bushes he was savagely attacked by a vicious THUG animal which gave him no choice but to exercise the freedom granted to him by the Second Amendment to the Constitution and dispatch that THUG with the righteous rights granted to him lo these many years ago by the Founding Fathers who knew what to do with 3/5s of a THUG.

For Great Justice!
 
2012-05-18 01:09:40 PM  
from the pic, It was watermelon flavored ice-tea, btw

/just saying
 
2012-05-18 01:10:47 PM  
I must express my shock that none of the resident fark racists have mentioned that the can of tea in the picture is watermelon flavored.
 
2012-05-18 01:11:18 PM  

jbuist: NeedlesslyCanadian:
Pot is a depressant, all you retards submitting threads on this yesterday. It dulls your reaction speed and slows you down.

It also tends to make you paranoid and prone to doing stupid shiat. Like attacking a guy for reporting to the police that you look suspicious and might be on drugs.


Or buying $20 worth of Jack Tacos.
 
2012-05-18 01:11:33 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: This is turning into a f*cking circus. Someone get Nancy Grace on the story, that'll be the perfect frosting

/how about we not try this case in the media?


Are you nucking futs? Do you really want to release the Nancy Grace Kraken?
 
2012-05-18 01:11:44 PM  

wingedkat: You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.



wingedkat: You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.


wingedkat: You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.

 
2012-05-18 01:12:10 PM  

wingedkat: The most relevant evidence in this whole case is that the kid was running away when Zimmerman got out of the car and chased him.

If a strange guy were following me, then after I started running away got out of his car and started chasing me, I'd take the first chance I got to sit on top of him and bash his skull against the ground. How can Zimmerman act in self-defense if chased the kid when he ran away?

You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.


In one of these threads there was a guy claiming that you, in fact, can attack someone, then shoot them in self-defense if they fight back. It takes a lot for me to put someone on ignore, but that guy got on the list. These threads have been a great way to spot trolls and miserable people that don't deserve to be taken seriously.
 
2012-05-18 01:12:43 PM  
Did they determine that Zimmerman DIDN'T follow the kid down the street, DIDN'T get out of his car and DIDN'T ignore a request from a 911 operator to leave it to the police?

No.

Then Zimmerman is still the aggressor based on the evidence and unless there's still something else we don't know about, he deserves prison time.

I'd sure hate to live in a country where we set the standard that you can get off on murder as long as you make a concerted effort to goad somebody into attacking you first.

/ or would I....
 
2012-05-18 01:12:52 PM  

wingedkat: The most relevant evidence in this whole case is that the kid was running away when Zimmerman got out of the car and chased him.

If a strange guy were following me, then after I started running away got out of his car and started chasing me, I'd take the first chance I got to sit on top of him and bash his skull against the ground. How can Zimmerman act in self-defense if chased the kid when he ran away?

You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.


Following someone is not the same as attacking someone. Following someone is not unlawful. If you get attacked while doing something lawful, you got the right to defend yourself against the attacker.
 
2012-05-18 01:12:58 PM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.

No, the evidence shows that Martin had traces of THC in his system. That's not the same as being high.

It also doesn't say anything about the fact that Zimmerman started the entire thing, or does Martin somehow not qualify for the stand your ground laws? You know, the guy who did actually have somebody stalk and attack him? follow him.


Who attacked who is in question. Stalking is not the correct verb.

2 idiots meet
a black man is shot dead
a nation riots.


/haiku for hommies
 
2012-05-18 01:13:06 PM  

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.


Pretty much...people will find any reason to riot, and in this case they'll just be ignoring the evidence.

question for those fark lawyers out there...does Zimmerman have a case against NBC for editing that audio? defamation, etc?
 
2012-05-18 01:13:07 PM  

wingedkat: The most relevant evidence in this whole case is that the kid was running away when Zimmerman got out of the car and chased him.

If a strange guy were following me, then after I started running away got out of his car and started chasing me, I'd take the first chance I got to sit on top of him and bash his skull against the ground. How can Zimmerman act in self-defense if chased the kid when he ran away?

You can't attack someone then claim "self defense" when they fight back.


It's this kind of detail that tends to get ignored in these threads. But hey, we gotta argue about something, don't we?
 
2012-05-18 01:13:23 PM  
Since when is following someone attacking them?

/My friend needs to know because he follows this chick with a hot ass all the time just to look at it.
 
2012-05-18 01:13:36 PM  

Gwendolyn: Woo hoo another damn trial where there is only black and white-hispanic on the issue.


ftfy
 
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