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2012-05-19 03:55:48 AM

JuggleGeek: Why do you lie about crap like that? Everyone with any interest in this story has heard the phone call.


What does Zimmerman do after the dispatcher says "we don't need you to do that"? I'll tell you what he does, he says "OK", stops running and then stays on the phone for almost two more minutes.

During the bond hearing, Angela Corey's lap dog admitted that there was no proof that Zimmerman followed or confronted Martin after that call ended.

It's mind boggling to me that even with all the evidence out there, you're still speculating using things that are unknown and other points that have been proven false. I think it's time you take a fresh look at all the evidence and come up with something new.

Stop speculating, bro.
 
2012-05-19 03:59:31 AM

JuggleGeek: I could quote Zimmermans's phone call where he says that Martin is running and he's following, but you're so far from reality that it's pointless.


Sure you could, then you could ignore the rest of that exchange and keep believing that you have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about.

Everybody else is familiar with the exchange, why aren't you, bro?
 
2012-05-19 04:06:04 AM
Amazing no one has Godwin it, yet.

/Too lazy to check
 
2012-05-19 05:20:17 AM

JuggleGeek: lisarenee3505: That has been apparent ever since more evidence started coming to light that has done nothing but confirm Zimmerman's accounting of events.

Zimmerman's accounting of events is that he chased down an unarmed kid who was running trying to get away from him, at night, and shot him. His own phone call makes his mindset clear. "These assholes always get away". He admits Martin tried to get away, that he chased him. Then he's found with a smoking gun next to a dead body. That's your farking hero.


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Just like a Martin supporter / Zimmerman hater to twist the FACTS of the situation to match their own emotion-driven narrative of events. I'm not even going to bother to argue with you because experience tells me that, when dealing with True Believers, no amount of reason or evidence will sway their irrational beliefs. So go ahead, continue injecting falsehoods into the chain of events, go ahead and continue to sensationalize the story with innuendo and conjecture. It doesn't affect me or my rational, objective evaluation of the evidence one bit. At the end of the day none of the misrepresentations matter, none of them will ever change the truth, and all you accomplish is making yourself look like an emotion-driven fool. Have fun with that.
 
2012-05-19 05:46:53 AM
...not necessary to follow != DO NOT FOLLOW
 
2012-05-19 06:05:23 AM

SkinnyHead: PC LOAD LETTER: If Zimmerman stayed in his car, this would NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.

If Zimmerman stayed in his bed, this would NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. He should never have gotten out of bed that morning.


What you "think" really matters to me, O fully discredited one.
 
2012-05-19 06:06:23 AM

s2s2s2: Since when is calling 911 while observing from a distance "playing cop"


No, I'm referring to him leaving his vehicle and pursing, numbnuts.
 
2012-05-19 06:07:36 AM

omeganuepsilon: It's like arguing with SteveB, you simply cannot sway fundamentalist Believers, especially with logic and reason. Their crazy will not let you.


And arguing with you is like arguing with a child who thinks mommy is perfect. Morons.
 
2012-05-19 06:08:52 AM

s2s2s2: Trayvon had the hoodie up


Which covered his hands, too, right? Or were they in his pocket when you saw him?
 
2012-05-19 06:36:27 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: omeganuepsilon: It's like arguing with SteveB, you simply cannot sway fundamentalist Believers, especially with logic and reason. Their crazy will not let you.

And arguing with you is like arguing with a child who thinks mommy is perfect. Morons.


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It's cute how you can't seem to make any valid, objective, evidence-based arguments, but you seem to be excellent at throwing around baseless ad hominem attacks. So how's that strategy working out for ya in life? Oops, I think it's about time for you to bum a ride from your mom to your job on the fryer at Wendy's. Better get moving, chief.
 
2012-05-19 06:39:43 AM

JuggleGeek: What did happen was that he shot an unarmed person who was not engaged in any crime.


Beating someone about the face while they are on the ground is a crime.
 
2012-05-19 07:41:21 AM

bugontherug: tirob:

I doubt it. There's precious little evidence that Zimmerman was committed to a violent confrontation; if he had been, I think he'd have pulled his gun long before he was on the ground with Martin on top of him. The question in my mind is whether, in light of all the evidence, a reasonable person in Zimmerman's position could have believed that Martin was about to kill or seriously injure him,

No. Zimmerman's self-defense claim is irrelevant.


Not according to Florida law, where even an aggressor can claim self-defense if the confrontation he started develops into a situation where the aggressor is in imminent danger of loss of life or limb.

bugontherug:

Zimmerman's commitment was to a confronation he knew could turn violent. Zimmerman chased someone fleeing from him with the intent to capture and hold him until the police arrived.


The evidence for this assertion is ambiguous; it is consistent also with a desire on Zimmerman's part to keep Martin in his sight until police arrived. At no time did Zimmerman tell the 911 dispatcher that he intended to capture Martin, and there is no evidence that Zimmerman pulled his gun--an act that would have been more consistent with an intention to capture and hold Martin--until Martin was on top of him.
 
2012-05-19 07:46:05 AM

JuggleGeek: What did happen was that he shot an unarmed person who was not engaged in any crime.


Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force and Martin doesn't get to use it just because someone followed him for 30 seconds, gave up, hung out for 2 minutes and then maybe asked him a question if he wasn't assaulted first.
 
2012-05-19 07:59:05 AM

JuggleGeek: tirob: No doubt about that in my mind either, but Zimmerman will be judged solely on what *did* happen, not what should have.

What did happen was that he shot an unarmed person who was not engaged in any crime.


An eyewitness has reported seeing Martin on top of Zimmerman and punching him. Martin may have committed assault and battery before Zimmerman killed him.

JuggleGeek: On Zimmerman's phone call, he biatches about "these assholes always get away". He follows Martin despite discouragement from the dispatcher. He refuses to agree to meet the police, which to me seems like he had no plan to return to his car but instead planned to continue to search for the guy he was chasing. Then a few minutes later, he finds the guy he was looking for, and he shoots him dead.

The evidence against Zimmerman is his own phone call. He wanted a confrontation.


Zimmerman may have wanted a confrontation, and his utterances to the 911 dispatcher could be interpreted as evidence of that, but they could also be interpreted as evidence merely that he wanted to keep Martin in sight until the cops got there. At no time did Zimmerman specifically tell the dispatcher that he intended to *confront* Martin.

JuggleGeek:
I damn sure wouldn't want this asshole wandering around my neighborhood shooting anyone he felt like.

That makes two of us.
 
2012-05-19 08:17:03 AM

PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force


It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.
 
2012-05-19 10:49:19 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: s2s2s2: Since when is calling 911 while observing from a distance "playing cop"

No, I'm referring to him leaving his vehicle and pursing, numbnuts.


You mean after the dispatcher asked him to update them on the location of the individual, numb-brain?
 
2012-05-19 10:50:46 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: s2s2s2: Trayvon had the hoodie up

Which covered his hands, too, right? Or were they in his pocket when you saw him?


His hands were likely in the pockets. Thinking isn't your strong suit, is it?
 
2012-05-19 10:54:54 AM

tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.


For umpteenth million time: you do not have to sustain life threatening injuries, only fear that they are imminent.
 
2012-05-19 11:08:06 AM

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


Zimmerman is gonna walk, and riots all over.


Weren't you a serious poster at one point? Has something terrible happened to you that turned you into an attention starved douchebag? Maybe you should get counseling.

I'm serious. Nobody with your talent should be wasting their time trolling the internet for attention. Get help.
 
2012-05-19 11:20:44 AM

kingoomieiii: [content.clearchannel.com image 600x544]

And once again this amount of blood looks ridiculous to me. It's a head wound, for christ's sake, allegedly from repeatedly slamming the head against the sidewalk. Almost no blood. Doesn't even look like there's bruising. Again, HEAD WOUND.


I guess the fact that picture shows blood obviously has been wiped away means nothing to you. Not to mention when he was being headsmushed, it is quite likely that most of the blood wend from the wound, to the ground. He wasn't sitting up, you know. Thinking: it's not just for Climate Change threads.
 
2012-05-19 11:24:45 AM

mc6809e: CliChe Guevara:
i think its rather telling that it and the other items were found away from the body, not on him. Could rather support that whole idea he was talking on the phone when he was confronted and the phone knocked away from him.
people generally don't plot to go chase down and 'ambush' people while carrying objects in both hands.


And we know Marin must have been a mutant with at least three hands, because he had a cell phone, skittles, and iced tea, and there's no other way to carry things with hands.

/one day I'm going to invent pockets and make millions.


except that of all the things in his pockets, the cell phone and can were not among them. which sort of goes along with the whole 'on the phone' thing. which zimmerman apologists apparently really don't like to hear.
 
2012-05-19 11:30:45 AM

CliChe Guevara: except that of all the things in his pockets, the cell phone and can were not among them. which sort of goes along with the whole 'on the phone' thing. which zimmerman apologists apparently really don't like to hear.


Wait, the items had been put down? I mean that is the most obvious, and simple explanation. We know Trayvon hid. We know Trayvon confronted George(if we believe his girlfriend). I guess since he knew he was going to confront George, I bet he was still smart enough to set some shiat down, first.

Do you like to hear that?
 
2012-05-19 12:53:26 PM

s2s2s2: We know Trayvon confronted George(if we believe his girlfriend). I


You know, I just realized that. I've always been of the opinion that we can't put to much stock into what the girlfriend says, but lets go ahead and assume she's being accurate about what she heard.

She says in her interview that Trayvon is heard saying "why are you following me". According to her, Trayvon spoke the first words, not Zimmerman. Had Zimmerman located and started the confrontation, surely she would have heard Zimmerman speak first. It's obvious from her testimony that Martin approached and confronted Zimmerman.
 
2012-05-19 01:07:32 PM

Sargun: step one: initiate altercation with teenage boy
step two: shoot him when he fights back
step three: claim self defence

am I missing anything?



step four: put up website and get $250,000 in donations
 
2012-05-19 02:37:19 PM
Haven't been able to read all the way through this thread - so, if my question has already been addressed - my apologies.

The evidence lists: "surveillance video Retreat at Twin Lakes clubhouse".

The link provided by subby provides the 7/11 video on the evidence list, but I haven't been able to find the one above.

Anyone have a link for it?
 
2012-05-19 03:40:35 PM

WorthNoting: The evidence lists: "surveillance video Retreat at Twin Lakes clubhouse".

The link provided by subby provides the 7/11 video on the evidence list, but I haven't been able to find the one above.

Anyone have a link for it?



I haven't come across anything mentioning a video from the community. I must have missed its mention in the release of documents. If one exists, I'm guessing it's a security camera for the main gate or clubhouse.
 
2012-05-19 04:11:50 PM
Interesting piece. Link
Casts some shadows on George's story. But then we all know how witness(at least eye witness) testimony is unreliable, right?
 
2012-05-19 04:47:31 PM

s2s2s2: mitEj: Actually the local watch said he was not a member

The complex stated that he was THE neighborhood watch. His neighbors decided he should be the coordinator, and the watch leader said she spoke with him at meetings. Why you no find out the facts before you speak?


http://www.thegrio.com/specials/trayvon-martin/zimmerman-not-a-member - of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization.php

If I was wring then my bad. I was going off of the information in articles like this.
 
2012-05-19 04:54:18 PM

lisarenee3505: Happy Hours: lisarenee3505: Has anyone else noticed that as more and more evidence comes to light that confirms Zimmerman's story and paints a more accurate picture of Martin's character, Al Sharpton & Jessee Jackson seem to have shut the fark up? What ya wanna bet they're going to distance themselves from this whole thing? They see the writing on the wall and they're both shrewd enough to avoid being on the wrong side of history here. They're like free agents who quit a team that is showing a losing trend.

It wouldn't be the first time at least for Sharpton. Tawana Brawley ring any bells?

Sorry to be late for this thread but I couldn't even make it through the one from yesterday.

I'm kind of back to not caring anymore. After being called a "Jesus Freak" and told to stop watching Fox News for not agreeing that Zimmerman was obviously a racist who should be convicted of murder one (even though no mention of religion or Fox had been made) I'm convinced some people are too supid to discuss things with.
================================

Well you know what they say... "Welcome to FARK."


Yeah, but it wasn't even Fark where that happened.
 
2012-05-19 05:17:02 PM

tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.


A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?
 
2012-05-19 05:52:55 PM

Sword and Shield: A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?


Ignore the medical reports, this guy knows his shiat.

By the way, Zimmerman's blood was found on his clothing.
 
2012-05-19 06:05:01 PM

Tatsuma: So evidence shows that Zimmerman indeed had Martin on top of him, and he was bashing his head on the ground (already corroborated by the only witness) and that Martin was in fact high.


11-Carboxy-THC != Delta-9-THC.
Not high.
 
2012-05-19 06:26:48 PM

mitEj: I was going off of the information in articles like this.


That's why you've failed so much in these threads. All you zealots are the same, not one iota of healthy skepticism of the media, despite it being cited, constantly, that from the beginning that the media was farking this whole story up from the get go.

At least, in this thread, you've shown you can at least listen to reason, if not understand it.(that'd be asking too much)

You may find the below interesting as well.

9beers: Sword and Shield: A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?

Ignore the medical reports, this guy knows his shiat.

By the way, Zimmerman's blood was found on his clothing.


What is it with fark armchair experts all being able to diagnose a life history from a couple of pictures? That's not broken? I saw no nose today that was broken(verified this morning at the hospital, happened about 30 hours ago, couldn't convince the dummy to get it checked out), virtually no swelling, and no external bruising of any kind.(bled from the inside a lot though).(oh, and go figure, had a broken nose, and no abrasions or holes in the back of his head.....)

It's like a broken arm, sometimes you can barely tell visually, and sometimes you see both fractured ends pocking out of the skin and blood erupting everywhere. You can't truthfully say "All broken arms look exactly like this!. Not all wounds of one specific type look the same, each actual event of wounding has a million different factors that go into it.

A broken nose doesn't HAVE to mean that it's half way to one ear, all it means is that the bone has sustained fracture. Why are things like this so hard to understand?
Do this many people think their limited personal experience is the only way things happen to roll out, ever? Is it some army of trolls?
 
2012-05-19 06:28:08 PM

omeganuepsilon: I saw a nose today


Oops!
FTFM
 
2012-05-19 07:17:40 PM

DoctorRock: s2s2s2: Interesting piece. Link
Casts some shadows on George's story. But then we all know how witness(at least eye witness) testimony is unreliable, right?

really? thats your link? yup....no bias there.....we get a fair even look at both sides of the story...........idiot

[www.thegrio.com image 627x77]


I'm an idiot because there are some quotes from witnesses that raise questions? Oh yeah. smart people don't like questions. Carry on, genius.
 
2012-05-19 07:19:34 PM

mitEj: If I was wring then my bad. I was going off of the information in articles like this.


From the article:
Among the new information:
- Zimmerman was not a neighborhood watch captain as previously believed. Wendy Dorival, the Sanford Police Department's volunteer liaison, told authorities Zimmerman was the "coordinator" for the Retreat at Twin Lakes, meaning he was the main point of contact between the police department and the complex's homeowners association. Zimmerman was known to at least some police officers, including one who responded to the scene and identified him as the "head of the neighborhood watch." Last year, shortly before the first neighborhood watch meeting on September 22nd, Zimmerman wrote a glowing email about Dorival to Chief Bill Lee (now on paid leave,) praising Dorival's responsiveness. Dorival told investigators Zimmerman had been "upset" by the handling of a case under the previous chief, in which a police lieutenant's son beat a homeless man and was not arrested. TheGrio.com contacted a spokesman for Lee to ask whether Lee recalled the email, or Zimmerman, and is awaiting comment.

No you weren't. URL ≠ information.
 
2012-05-19 07:25:17 PM

s2s2s2: tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.

For umpteenth million time: you do not have to sustain life threatening injuries, only fear that they are imminent.


Yes. And the fear must be reasonable. I was trying to refute PoochUMD's point about how the injuries must have occurred, not trying to restate the law.
 
2012-05-19 07:42:18 PM

Sword and Shield: tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.

A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?


I read somewhere that Zimmerman may have changed clothes at the police station before he was photographed; this may explain the absence of blood on his jacket. I haven't downloaded all the new evidence yet, so someone with access to it may want to correct me here. I can't argue with you about Zimmerman's broken nose as my medical knowledge is rudimentary. We'll see what the experts say at trial and whether there is any more evidence, such as an x-ray, that turns up.
 
2012-05-19 08:17:53 PM

tirob: Sword and Shield: tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.

A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?

I read somewhere that Zimmerman may have changed clothes at the police station before he was photographed; this may explain the absence of blood on his jacket. I haven't downloaded all the new evidence yet, so someone with access to it may want to correct me here. I can't argue with you about Zimmerman's broken nose as my medical knowledge is rudimentary. We'll see what the experts say at trial and whether there is any more evidence, such as an x-ray, that turns up.


His wife brought him new clothes and the old ones were bagged as evidence.
 
2012-05-19 08:44:59 PM

tirob: I read somewhere that Zimmerman may have changed clothes at the police station before he was photographed; this may explain the absence of blood on his jacket


I have a better explanation: Zimmerman got less than a tablespoon of blood on his jacket, because human bodies don't spray blood from wounds in highly pressurized fountains, regardless of what you saw in "Jason vs. Freddy Kruger vs. Aliens vs. Predator."

You can actually see, even in the ABC News edited video, Zimmerman showing the tiny drops of blood to the police officer, who has to look close to see them.
 
2012-05-19 09:03:56 PM

Tatterdemalian: tirob: I read somewhere that Zimmerman may have changed clothes at the police station before he was photographed; this may explain the absence of blood on his jacket

I have a better explanation: Zimmerman got less than a tablespoon of blood on his jacket, because human bodies don't spray blood from wounds in highly pressurized fountains, regardless of what you saw in "Jason vs. Freddy Kruger vs. Aliens vs. Predator."


This. The farktards in these threads get all their information for how bleeding works from movies like Kill Bill.

i23.fastpic.ru

/couldn't find a good screen shot of the dance floor scene
 
2012-05-19 09:18:47 PM

Tatterdemalian: tirob: I read somewhere that Zimmerman may have changed clothes at the police station before he was photographed; this may explain the absence of blood on his jacket

I have a better explanation: Zimmerman got less than a tablespoon of blood on his jacket, because human bodies don't spray blood from wounds in highly pressurized fountains, regardless of what you saw in "Jason vs. Freddy Kruger vs. Aliens vs. Predator."

You can actually see, even in the ABC News edited video, Zimmerman showing the tiny drops of blood to the police officer, who has to look close to see them.


I didn't see the movie. Some of the blood that Zimmerman let could have fallen onto the ground rather than on his clothes, too. We just don't know.
 
2012-05-19 09:21:09 PM

Sword and Shield: tirob: PoochUMD:

Breaking someones nose and bashing their skull in the ground to the point where they are about to lose consciousness, is a crime. It's lethal force

It certainly is, but the only evidence that Martin bashed Zimmerman's skull into the ground and that Zimmerman was about to lose consciousness that has cropped up so far consists of statements from Zimmerman's family. Before I drew any conclusions, I'd wait for a doctor to give evidence as to whether the cuts on the back of Zimmerman's head are evidence that Martin was using deadly force on Zimmerman.

A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?


Those photos were taken at the police station after he had been treated. It's not on this link, but there is a photo of him in the back of the police car (its black and white) and his nose looks jacked up.
 
2012-05-19 09:32:04 PM
This thread was fun for a day, but man, the level of DErP! coming from the Martin supporters / Zimmerman haters is so heavy that I'm just worn out. You can only state facts and known evidence so many times before it starts to feel like you're trying to run in deep, loose sand.

/the sand here represents the willful ignorance and absolutely irrefutable stupidity of the pro-TM/anti-GZ camp
 
2012-05-19 09:46:04 PM

lisarenee3505: This thread was fun for a day, but man, the level of DErP! coming from the Martin supporters / Zimmerman haters is so heavy that I'm just worn out. You can only state facts and known evidence so many times before it starts to feel like you're trying to run in deep, loose sand.

/the sand here represents the willful ignorance and absolutely irrefutable stupidity of the pro-TM/anti-GZ camp


They're lashing out, really. Whitey didn't assassinate Obama to give them the excuse they wanted to have the race war they've been looking for, and now they're grasping at straws. And they won't let go, even after it's turned into a libertarian vs. authoritarian battle, with the "Justice for Trayvon" side clearly favoring a totalitarian police state. "Zimmerman could have avoided this if he'd listened to authority," "Zimmerman was trying to be a have-a-go hero like Richard 'Talibubba' Jewel," "We need to restrict guns because everyone should have the right to beat the shiat out of anyone else without having to worry about getting shot."

Then they wonder how socialist utopias based on these principles inevitably turn into totalitarian dictatorships. It's like they honestly believe "freedom for me but not for thee" is the core principle of liberty.
 
2012-05-19 09:49:47 PM

s2s2s2: Zimmerman was not a neighborhood watch captain as previously believed


In the pdf of the evidence packet beginning on page 150 are a series of "The Retreat at Twin Lakes HOA Newsletters". If you glance through these, there are sections titled "Neighborhood Watch" and these mini-articles list George Zimmerman as captain.
These newsletters are followed by a series of emails discussing things concerning the Neighborhood Watch which are being sent between George Zimmerman and others.

.
 
2012-05-19 09:58:10 PM

lisarenee3505: This thread was fun for a day, but man, the level of DErP! coming from the Martin supporters / Zimmerman haters is so heavy that I'm just worn out. You can only state facts and known evidence so many times before it starts to feel like you're trying to run in deep, loose sand.

/the sand here represents the willful ignorance and absolutely irrefutable stupidity of the pro-TM/anti-GZ camp


Yeah, I'm still reading these threads for a kick but even that is getting old. Each one of them is like a carbon copy of the last. I decided if/when I do post in a M/Z threads, it will have nothing to do with the case.

/don't post in them much
 
2012-05-19 10:59:12 PM
im sick of this "black vs white" crap, its about time the US gets over this race war and move on to actual important stuff. And all the damn baby murders are working my last nerve, i get it Nancy Grace, babies are getting kidnapped and killed and your passionate about that but as hard as you try dead babies will never be news to me.
 
2012-05-19 11:22:23 PM

Happy Hours: Sword and Shield: A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?

Glad you can diagnose broken noses from pictures on the internet Mr. Almost a doctor.


Heh. CSB

Just today, through various relations, I heard that a woman(in-law's girlfriend's mother) got in a motorcycle crash, faceplanted into rocks and landed face down in water. Fractured eye socket, 2 crushed vertebrae, several stitches in the head(and who knows what else at this point...)

The first doctor she saw did only a catscan to check for concussion or whatever, saw nothing, and because of low blood pressure didn't give her any pain meds, and then of course tried to send her home, no xray, no keeping for observation. Just go home, and have someone keep an eye on you. You know, make it a movie family night.

Of course the daughter was livid, got a new doctor(who did the xrays and such), and found that the original one was supposedly on duty as a full fledged doctor for the first time, ever.

Must have went to the same school as Sword and Shield, who's motto is apparently, "Meh, looks fine to me."

/CSB
//someone's career is over before it ever started
///if there's any justice
 
2012-05-20 02:59:39 AM

Sword and Shield: A week short of graduation from med school, 12 weeks of forensic pathology under my belt. His nose almost certainly isn't broken, or it's the cleanest break I've ever seen and has been set before the picture was taken. As for the blood, I can maybe buy that it was wiped, but if he got hit into the pavement, those bleed like hell and quick. How is there not at least spatter on his clothing?


Diagnosis through an internet picture? Really?

I hope to G-d you never treat a living patient for as long as you keep that attitude. Dear L-rd.
 
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