Good, now soldiers can get paid without us having to worry about ass-hats throwing fascist laws into simple budget bills.

Obama got told

Good.

I'd of thought it'd be a bigger issue of the 5th and 6th

dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

No hero tag?

OrelupM: I'd of thought it'd be a bigger issue of the 5th and 6th

You no can has due process or speedy trial. NO. Bad citizen.

"He also called on Congress to change it "to make it the law of the land that U.S. citizens are entitled to trial by jury."

/has a sad

So it took a democrat using the methods installed by a republican for other republicans to realize its unconstitutionality. I'm okay with this.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

Can you point to where Obama stated he needed and/or will use this power? I can't find it.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch

And I'm obviously a racist for saying so.

OrelupM: I'd of thought it'd be a bigger issue of the 5th and 6th

That is what I was thinking but I guess the case could be made that it also could inhibit free speech even religious activity should you practice the "wrong" religion.

She didnt' go nearly far enough.

You cannot detain someone because you "THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST ALLMIGHTY GOD AND HIS FATHER AND GHOST SAYS YOU TERRERISTISMIMS!"

You can detain someone when they commit a farking crime, not because they have a farking membership card to a social group.

[Follow-up] SCOTUS to Federal Judge: Overruled.

Peki: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

I'll be that person.

Repubtards wrote that part of the bill into the NDAA in the first place. All Obama did was not veto then, and then when it came up for court, his instructed his lawyers not to defend it (hence the no witnesses, no statements, no answering questions).

Heh. Nice tactic. Let the GOP pass whatever it wants, then refuse to defend it in court. A form of government nullification as opposed to jury nullification?

Well that's just silly. You should realize that the Repubs will simply go around screaming "ACTIVIST JUDGE!!!!!"

Link is farked. Judge will "disappear" in the next few days. I, for one, welcome the new world order.

ourbigdumbmouth: no one care about the constitution anymore really. It's more of a historical document like the magna carta or the mayflower compact. Technology is moving too fast to keep up with these old philosophies.goddamn piece of paper.

FTFRepublicans.

ourbigdumbmouth: no one care about the constitution anymore really. It's more of a historical document like the magna carta or the mayflower compact. Technology is moving too fast to keep up with these old philosophies.


Run that by me again? Explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old
/ Yeah I bit

hasty ambush: OrelupM: I'd of thought it'd be a bigger issue of the 5th and 6th

That is what I was thinking but I guess the case could be made that it also could inhibit free speech even religious activity should you practice the "wrong" religion.

Ritualized cannibalism is still good to go, right?

/Ritualized cannibalism

Thanks, Judge!

Fark the DOJ and anyone else who encroaches on our freedom.
*lookin' at YOU, TSA*

anfrind: ourbigdumbmouth: no one care about the constitution anymore really. It's more of a historical document like the magna carta or the mayflower compact. Technology is moving too fast to keep up with these old philosophies.goddamn piece of paper.

FTFRepublicans.

"The Constitution is like my old blue dress ... it doesn't fit anymore." Rep. Ellen Tauscher
(Democrat, California)

"To hell with the Constitution. "-- Former California Assemblyman Democrat Mike Roos, February 1989

b-b-b-but this looks more fun

Peki: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

I'll be that person.

Repubtards wrote that part of the bill into the NDAA in the first place. All Obama did was not veto then, and then when it came up for court, his instructed his lawyers not to defend it (hence the no witnesses, no statements, no answering questions).

Heh. Nice tactic. Let the GOP pass whatever it wants, then refuse to defend it in court. A form of government nullification as opposed to jury nullification?

But, his whole campaign was dedicated to CLOSING Gitmo then backed out of it and adopted the "don't ask, don't tell" clause which you concurred above.
It doesn't matter who wrote it...he was supposed to veto the bill and shut down the facility. My cousin is heading there in a few months (Army)...sounds like it's still open to me.

Obama = Same policies as Bush = FAIL

hasty ambush: "The Constitution is like my old blue dress ... it doesn't fit anymore." Rep. Ellen Tauscher
(Democrat, California)

Lose some weight, biatch.

cameroncrazy1984: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

Can you point to where Obama stated he needed and/or will use this power? I can't find it.

let's have some fun...

Can't you point to where Obama stated no president should ever need or want to use this power?

If this is unnecessary, then why let it come to pass?

If this could be abused by someone in the future, then why let it come to pass?

If I have a gun pointed at your head, can you point to where I would need and/or will use the power in my finger to pull the trigger? so why worry or call the police about me having a gun pointed at your head?

Do you know what an assist is in sports? Why should I, as a defender, worry about you passing the ball to someone who is open underneath the basket if you have no need to shoot nor the will to do so, so why do you care if you pass him the ball?

/hyperbole much?

Krieghund: netweavr: [Follow-up] SCOTUS to Federal Judge: Overruled.

Not only this, but I can tell you how the vote is going to split:

5 to 4, with the Republican appointees voting for the law.

If this happens, I would enjoy it greatly if Obama were to use the law to indefinitely detain those 5 Justices.

/And then tell Congress to repeal that law or be detained under that law

craxyd: ourbigdumbmouth: no one care about the constitution anymore really. It's more of a historical document like the magna carta or the mayflower compact. Technology is moving too fast to keep up with these old philosophies.


Run that by me again? Explain it to me like I'm a 4 year old
/ Yeah I bit

He is right. Our laws stopped being based on the constitution a long time ago, we are now have a common law based system like England.

King Something: If this happens, I would enjoy it greatly if Obama were to use the law to indefinitely detain those 5 Justices.

/And then tell Congress to repeal that law or be detained under that law


So you want to see a failed coup and then an impeachment?

Lady Farksalot: But, his whole campaign was dedicated to CLOSING Gitmo then backed out of it and adopted the "don't ask, don't tell" clause which you concurred above.

Huh? Who backed out of it? Congress denied funding.

Land of the free.

Lady Farksalot: But, his whole campaign was dedicated to CLOSING Gitmo then backed out of it and adopted the "don't ask, don't tell" clause which you concurred above.
It doesn't matter who wrote it...he was supposed to veto the bill and shut down the facility. My cousin is heading there in a few months (Army)...sounds like it's still open to me.

He tried to close Gitmo and send the detainees to a maximum security prison in the middle of nowhere. Guess who cut the budget for that move to $0.

I don't know how or why, but in someway this is the fault of a muslim kenyan.

so why do you should I care if you pass him the ball?

/I am know goods at proofswriting

OrelupM: I'd of thought it'd be a bigger issue of the 5th and 6th

Due process is a freaking joke, and barely provides protection. Especially with administrative agencies.

A chilling effect on speech is easier to show. Although scotus is extremely hostile towards those claims as can be seen from the material support statute they upheld.

Hyjamon: Can't you point to where Obama stated no president should ever need or want to use this power?

If this is unnecessary, then why let it come to pass?

Oh, gee, I dunno, did you read the bill that it was attached to? You know, the defense spending bill?

Sometimes you have to sign the bill, make your signing statement, and then have your DoJ refuse to defend the law.

fluffy2097: She didnt' go nearly far enough.

You cannot detain someone because you "THE LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST ALLMIGHTY GOD AND HIS FATHER AND GHOST SAYS YOU TERRERISTISMIMS!"

You can detain someone when they commit a farking crime, not because they have a farking membership card to a social group.

Being a member is an act, and that act can be proscribed.

cameroncrazy1984: Huh? Who backed out of it? Congress denied funding.

Never. Obama's. Fault. Ever.

/i'll admit, it makes life pretty simple having that kind of clarity.

Edward Rooney Dean of Students: cameroncrazy1984: Huh? Who backed out of it? Congress denied funding.

Never. Obama's. Fault. Ever.

/i'll admit, it makes life pretty simple having that kind of clarity.

Oh, please do show me where it's Obama's fault that he had no money to move the prisoners out of Gitmo. I'd love to see it.

Lady Farksalot: Peki: Edward Rooney Dean of Students: dosboot: Obama got told

Silly dosboot, Obama doesn't GET told. It'll be somebody else's fault and/or what Obama personally believes. Just watch.

I'll be that person.

Repubtards wrote that part of the bill into the NDAA in the first place. All Obama did was not veto then, and then when it came up for court, his instructed his lawyers not to defend it (hence the no witnesses, no statements, no answering questions).

Heh. Nice tactic. Let the GOP pass whatever it wants, then refuse to defend it in court. A form of government nullification as opposed to jury nullification?

But, his whole campaign was dedicated to CLOSING Gitmo then backed out of it and adopted the "don't ask, don't tell" clause which you concurred above.
It doesn't matter who wrote it...he was supposed to veto the bill and shut down the facility. My cousin is heading there in a few months (Army)...sounds like it's still open to me.

Obama = Same policies as Bush = FAIL

You obviously didn't pay attention to what happen when he tried to do it. Congress, bunch of cowards that they are, denied all funding for it. As a result, he couldn't move the inmates to a proper facility.

sprawl15: Good.


Aren't you in disagreement with the judge regarding her position that the law far exceeds the scope of the AUMF?

cameroncrazy1984: Can you point to where Obama stated he needed and/or will use this power? I can't find it.

Lol. You're SO right. Obama won't detain citizens who are suspected terrorists. He will simply have them assassinated outright. No need for that pesky unconstitutional detention at all! As he has already demonstrated.

ThrobblefootSpectre: cameroncrazy1984: Can you point to where Obama stated he needed and/or will use this power? I can't find it.

Lol. You're SO right. Obama won't detain citizens who are suspected terrorists. He will simply have them assassinated outright. No need for that pesky unconstitutional detention at all! As he has already demonstrated.

Well, if an American citizen is in a war zone riding in a car with 3 other terrorists, that's his problem, isn't it.