PYROY: Also, isn't there some custom in Japan where moms will suck their son's dicks well into the teenage years instead of stopping at a normal age?

That's classic.

ASSuming this is a true story, why can't the much older brother just give the sister a little talk? Something like, "Y'know, you're old enough now, you should probably stop playing with mom's breasts. I know mom let us do it for a long time, but most people stop when they're babies." At nine years old, the girl is certainly old enough to understand that. If done gently, it needn't been truamatizing.

Why is everything assuming the letter writer is male?

Oh Marge, you remember him. He changed his name to Mother Shabooboo.

H31N0US: PYROY: Also, isn't there some custom in Japan where moms will suck their son's dicks well into the teenage years instead of stopping at a normal age?

That's classic.

I totally saw a segment about this on "That's Incredible!"

LandOfChocolate: Why is everything assuming the letter writer is male?

I dunno, I didn't, and if you're talking about the people in thread here, I wasn't paying a ton of attention, but it seemed the overall assumption here was female.

Prudence is a prude. GILF pr0n FTW

ManRay: I had a co-worker causally tell a story about how when he was about 7 he walked in on his aunt as she was getting dressed. She caught him staring at her breasts as she was topless and very well endowed. He asked her about them so she volunteered to let him feel them. He took a big ole' hand full and moved on. He claimed it was not sexual at all, just curiosity.


Hey, that's not how that story ends when I read it on 'Netscape Forbidden Love Confessions'....

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ManRay: And where is the Dad in all this?

On the other breast.

Dear Prudence: You're not going to believe this, but ...

the sketchy perviness of women is vastly underreported....

factoryconnection: toddler/kid nursing situations

I read that as "toddler/kid nursing stations," which conjured a very dystopic vision of the future.

KingKauff: Ctrl-Alt-Del: SkunkWerks: thismomentinblackhistory: This column is fake.

Elsewhere on that page:

"Dear Prudence: Husband Gone Wiccan

Dear Prudence,
About a year ago my mother-in-law passed away and left us her house, which is within walking distance of ours. We decided to sell the property, and since it's in superb condition, all we need to do is box up my mother-in-law's belongings. My wife still misses her mother and finds it too difficult to spend much time there, and I'm busy with work, so the responsibility has fallen on our 15-year-old son, "Brandon." During the course of packing, Brandon found a box of old videotapes and inserted one into her VCR. He discovered that his grandparents had been swingers for years. Brandon has already told his older sister, which I am furious about, and the two of them want to tell their mother. I want to throw the tapes on a pile and set them ablaze, but my children have convinced me that it is not my right. They say their mom should be told, and it should be her decision what to do with the tapes. Am I right for not wanting my wife to know about this? I certainly wouldn't want to know if it were my parents.

-No Reruns"

I'm thinking you're right. The alternative is believing people really are this stupid.

no, it's just "Prudence" who is that stupid. She gets trolled at least once a month by an obvious and stupidly fake letter.

I have a feeling she knows exactly what she's doing.

Job security?

factoryconnection: madgonad: Kids lose interest and want real food. I think a lot of these toddler/kid nursing situations are the mother looking to force attachment and also shed a few more pounds.

Weaning and the introduction of solid foods are independent events. Our babies started real food (mashed up initially) at six months each. I'm not talking about the introduction of solid foods. Regardless of the introduction of solid foods, the AAP recommends a minimum of 6 months exclusive nursing, continued with foods to at least 12 months. The WHO and UNICEF recommend continued nursing through at least 24 months. These are not "weight loss" or "birth control" recommendations, but developmental recommendations.

Also, I have a beautiful, 10-month-old baby that will be the first to tell you that nursing is lousy birth control. Hell, nursing with prophylactic use couldn't stop her!

Nursing with improper prophylactic use couldn't stop her! FTFY.

All mammals wean their young. There's a reason deciduous teeth are called "milk teeth": teeth come in, tit comes out.

Decillion: Magnanimous_J: ManRay: /no way I am googling that to find out if it's true.

I don't think it's true, but I remember hearing about it as a teenager like 15 years ago. The urban legend was that they would do it as a reward for getting good grades or something.

No it was to relieve stress before exams.

I remember this too, but I thought it was to relieve them of their distracting boners so they could study effectively.

I remember a quote from the dad was something like, It's okay as long as it's not intercourse.

factoryconnection: wideangle: There's a reason deciduous teeth are called "milk teeth": teeth come in, tit comes out.

That's ascribing scientific weight to colloquial terminology and refuting professional medical guidelines. Another example: "stork bites" don't come from storks at all! Some babies get teeth at 3 months, some get them at 12 months. In fact, my neighbor's son was born with his first tooth in. Not a proper indicator of digestive and/or brain development.

This. My nephew started getting his teeth at three months, SIL kept him on the boob until month six or seven. That's not typical of all kids because all kids are not typical.

factoryconnection: Another example: "stork bites" don't come from storks at all!

They are caused by herons.

Thanks to the Snopes messageboard (Link) and its link to the original article at The Journal of Psychohistory:

"Thirdly, two recent books on Japanese incest provide new insights into the subject. The first is a report of a "hotline" set up in Tokyo by a counseling service, which analyzed the hundreds of calls they received dealing with incest.(164) Since official Japanese statistics deny the occurrence of incest, they were surprised to find that their hotline was flooded with such calls. One of their major findings is that, in addition to the usual father-daughter and sibling incest found in the West, 29 percent of the Japanese calls complained about mother - son incest. This is an extremely high proportion compared to other countries, but about what could be expected considering the common frequency with which Japanese mothers sleep alone with their sons while the father is out having sex with other women - extramarital sex still being the rule for most married men in Japan.(165)

"The most commonly reported incest occurs when the mother sees her son masturbate as a teenager and tells him, "It's not good to do it alone. Your IQ becomes lower. I will help you," or "You cannot study if you cannot have sex. You may use my body," or "I don't want you to get into trouble with a girl. Have sex with me instead."(166) The researchers found that Japanese mothers and sons often sleep in the same bed and have sex together, although the exact incidence in the population was not investigated. According to the phone interviews, Japanese mothers teach their sons how to masturbate, helping them to achieve first ejaculation in much the same manner as they earlier helped them with toilet training.(167) Most of the sons had no sexual experience with another woman, and became jealous of the mothers' having sex with their fathers, feeling they should have the right to monopolize the mothers - perhaps helping explain why one informant told a family planning expert: "We have no Oedipal problems in Japan - there's no competition from the father.(168) Mother recent Japanese book, based on one hundred incest reports, confirms these observations, including the unusually high rate of mother - son incest, although it, too, provides no way to determine true national incidence rates.(169)"

HailRobonia: factoryconnection: Another example: "stork bites" don't come from storks at all!

They are caused by herons.

Aren't those called track marks?

FTFA:

I'm not insinuating that women who breast-feed their children past toddlerhood are doing something wrong. It's your description of the postweaning, clearly sexual breast fondling that is alarming. Your mother sounds like a sexual predator disguising herself as the ultimate attachment parent.

You don't have nearly enough information to draw that conclusion. Mom could have all kinds of other issues going on. I agree that her behavior sounds kinda improper and weird and creepy and all, but you can't judge what her inner motivations are, just based on that.

A while back I had a letter from a widow who couldn't bear to dispose of the erotic tape she and her husband had made but was afraid that if she didn't, her children might find it when she was gone. It's too bad your mother-in-law didn't follow the brilliant advice suggested by readers for elders with similar memorabilia: Label the tapes "Matlock, Seasons 1-4." That way the kids will dispose of them without being tempted to look.

Or they might toss them onto the garage sale table, or into the box of stuff going to Goodwill. More great advice.

factoryconnection: wideangle: There's a reason deciduous teeth are called "milk teeth": teeth come in, tit comes out.

That's ascribing scientific weight to colloquial terminology and refuting professional medical guidelines. Another example: "stork bites" don't come from storks at all! Some babies get teeth at 3 months, some get them at 12 months. In fact, my neighbor's son was born with his first tooth in. Not a proper indicator of digestive and/or brain development.

but, it is indicative that he is a werewolf and shut be killed and buried at a crossroad.

I have the weirdest boner right now!

Does anyone actually believe anything Prudence prints? Can there really be that many people seeking her non-advice on their sexy, salacious problems that are exactly what she needs to step up onto her soapbox?

SkunkWerks: KingKauff: Ctrl-Alt-Del: SkunkWerks: thismomentinblackhistory: This column is fake.

Elsewhere on that page:

"Dear Prudence: Husband Gone Wiccan

Dear Prudence,
About a year ago my mother-in-law passed away and left us her house, which is within walking distance of ours. We decided to sell the property, and since it's in superb condition, all we need to do is box up my mother-in-law's belongings. My wife still misses her mother and finds it too difficult to spend much time there, and I'm busy with work, so the responsibility has fallen on our 15-year-old son, "Brandon." During the course of packing, Brandon found a box of old videotapes and inserted one into her VCR. He discovered that his grandparents had been swingers for years. Brandon has already told his older sister, which I am furious about, and the two of them want to tell their mother. I want to throw the tapes on a pile and set them ablaze, but my children have convinced me that it is not my right. They say their mom should be told, and it should be her decision what to do with the tapes. Am I right for not wanting my wife to know about this? I certainly wouldn't want to know if it were my parents.

-No Reruns"

I'm thinking you're right. The alternative is believing people really are this stupid.

no, it's just "Prudence" who is that stupid. She gets trolled at least once a month by an obvious and stupidly fake letter.

I have a feeling she knows exactly what she's doing.

Job security?

You think she'd be reeling in the attention if all she posted were the "I don't know if my husband tells me the truth when he says he likes my meatloaf", or "How can I get my son to clean his room?" letters? I surely would have never heard of her if not for the love shown her by The Fark.

hailin: ace in your face: FAKE. But only because of Time. Otherwise I would have said it's really not a big deal if a kid wants to cuddle at moms chest since the description is extremely vague. If it were possibly real (which I don't think it is) I think prudies advice is extremist based on the story provided, and could really fark up a relatively normal family. If it were real, I would say the teen daughter is just an attention whore biatch who has reached sexual maturity and now freaks out about boobies.

But it's fake.

Being allowed to play with your mom's boobs at 10 is ridiculous. We know the daughter is 10 since he said that. How is that extremely vague? After age 3 kids should NOT be playing with their mom's boobs.

"Playing with" is vague. What does it mean? Nude? Clothed? Does it include cuddle or just a loving pat or does it mean caressing the nip between their fingers? Calling cps and calling mom a perv with that little info is weird. I still cuddled with my mom at that age with my head on her chest. Does that count as playing? Plus 3 is a ridiculous number. I was still breastfeeding til 3. I don't feel like it damaged me in any way. I was so afraid of water I showered or bathed with my mom til I was like 7 or8. She isn't a perv she just did it because I was terrified. The idea that the home could be broken up over something like this is absurd.

Now, if the letter writer said the mother was forcing the child to play with her boobs it's a whole different story.

WTFDYW: I know that's probably an old picture of Emily Yoff, but i would love to have made some porn with her in the day.

If you feel that way, you should look up her past column about visiting a nudist resort.

Shakespeare's Monkey
Got Milk?

/May be slightly NSFW, your mileage may vary.

NSFW? Hell, it ought to be a PSA.

Sibling rivalry is a beyotch!

Doin the motorboat on ole mom? Built for speed or comfort?

Magnanimous_J: ManRay: /no way I am googling that to find out if it's true.

I don't think it's true, but I remember hearing about it as a teenager like 15 years ago. The urban legend was that they would do it as a reward for getting good grades or something.

Sick. Disgusting.

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Approves.

SUPERB show.

Babwa Wawa: ace in your face: "Playing with" is vague. What does it mean? Nude? Clothed? Does it include cuddle or just a loving pat or does it mean caressing the nip between their fingers? Calling cps and calling mom a perv with that little info is weird. I still cuddled with my mom at that age with my head on her chest. Does that count as playing? Plus 3 is a ridiculous number. I was still breastfeeding til 3. I don't feel like it damaged me in any way. I was so afraid of water I showered or bathed with my mom til I was like 7 or8. She isn't a perv she just did it because I was terrified. The idea that the home could be broken up over something like this is absurd.

You have to remember that the accuser is the son who was subjected to the same behavior. If a child believes he was abused, and now believes his sibling is being abused, it cannot be left uninvestigated.

"Prudence" did recommend talking to the pediatrician and letting him or her deal with the authorities. But if that's not an option for whatever reason, it cannot be left to the son to deal with. If the son believes that this is sexual abuse, then he has to report it to someone, doesn't he?


I don't know why you think it's a guy. i think thats another example of how people read too much into a vague (fake!) story. And I don't get that it was abusive behavior either. The person says they feel grossed out that they wanted to breastfeed and "play" (whatever that means) with their moms boobs. I'm embarrassed that I was too afraid to shower alone til I was 7 and I would have certainly thought it was weird when I was a highschooler if mom mom did that with a younger sibling (I don't have one) but I don't think my mom is a pedo and as a mother now I understand why you would do something like this for your child if they are sad or scared or need comfort etc. I still think the letter is fake, but if it were real, I would say this is a case of a douche teenager and not a pedo parent.

Babwa Wawa: ace in your face: I don't know why you think it's a guy. i think thats another example of how people read too much into a vague (fake!) story.

The advice is valid regardless of the sex of the child, and regardless of whether the story is contrived.

ace in your face: And I don't get that it was abusive behavior either.

The child here clearly feels that there was a sexual component to the behavior when s/he was engaging in it. Now s/he sees the same pattern with a younger sibling.

You're right that this is not an open and shut case of abuse, but clearly it needs investigation. I really hope that this is just a gut reaction from you. If a child ever comes to you with a story of what they feel was abuse, I hope that you help by prompting an investigation rather than call the kid a douchebag.

again, when I read this story I don't see that the letter writer is reporting that they feel violated so much as they are grossed out by their own wants as a child and want to prevent the younger sibling from the regretful revulsion they feel (which the younger sibling may not ever even have). I don't even think the letter writer thinks her mom is doing anything wrong other than not demanding that the child stop because the older child thinks it's "icky". i dont think the letter writer thinks the mother is a child molester. lots of kids do things they later think back on with revulsion, and if reminded of it in a gouged sibling they make a big deal about how gross it is. There is absolutely no call based on the info provided to call the mother a sex predator. Politely suggesting to investigate it would have been insane enough in my opinion, but the response given was absolutely deplorable.

But she should have known the letter was fake and not posted a reply at all. Obviously.