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2012-05-18 09:57:13 AM
He might be Jesus Christ of the Marvel Universe, but he's definitely the messiah for Marvel Studios

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2012-05-18 11:23:55 AM

scottydoesntknow: He might be Jesus Christ of the Marvel Universe, but he's definitely the messiah for Marvel Studios

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Marvel desperately needs to regain possession of some of their IPs like Spidey and the FF. As the studio has really gotten itself together there is a great potential for some seriously good movies.

On a side note, why does DC seem to have such a hard time with this?
 
2012-05-18 11:26:11 AM
Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"
 
2012-05-18 11:28:17 AM
Serious answer:
All of them except the Hulk. Each one gives a backstory or some little hint at the end of each as to what's to come soon after.
 
2012-05-18 11:30:52 AM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


Pretty much any Marvel movie made so far, they all touch something in it. But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.
 
2012-05-18 11:34:48 AM
Somebody needs to work on splicing all these movies together in this exact order and making a multi-arc live-action comic book epic, ending with the entirety of the Avengers (which was 10 lbs of awesome in a 5lb bag).

/Would devote a weekend or 3 to it
 
2012-05-18 11:35:41 AM

mcgreggers99: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Pretty much any Marvel movie made so far, they all touch something in it. But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.


I didn't see Thor and I didn't feel like I missed much during the movie. Though I wouldn't mind going back and watching it now. Thor was just never a favorite of mine.
 
2012-05-18 11:36:45 AM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


Both Thor and Captain America were made to give a lot of backstory for the Avengers. Captain America is the better of the two in my opinion, but Thor does have more relevant information.

Obviously Iron Man must be seen (if you haven't already).

I'm trying to remember if anything really mattered in Iron Man 2, but for the life of me I can't.

Out of the two Hulk movies, you'd be better of seeing Norton's Hulk (The Incredible Hulk). That's the one the Avengers used to continue from for Banner's story.
 
2012-05-18 11:38:53 AM

mcgreggers99: But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.


I really can't remember what was important about Iron Man 2. Could you refresh me? The only thing I'm kinda remembering is Stark's father, but he had a bigger role in Captain America.
 
2012-05-18 11:52:31 AM

scottydoesntknow: I'm trying to remember if anything really mattered in Iron Man 2, but for the life of me I can't.


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Oh you meant from a plot point! Well, not REALLY, but IM2 is the first time we meet Ms. Romanov here, so there's that.
 
2012-05-18 11:53:29 AM

scottydoesntknow: mcgreggers99: But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.

I really can't remember what was important about Iron Man 2. Could you refresh me? The only thing I'm kinda remembering is Stark's father, but he had a bigger role in Captain America.


I think the pieces of "Shield" are setup in IM2...including Nick Fury, Agent Colson, and Black Widow. Captain America introduces the Mcguffin of the cosmic cube, and Thor introduces the main antagonist in Loki.

So they are all kind nice to know going in.
 
2012-05-18 11:58:00 AM
i want to see someone cut all those movies together as this timeline projects. that would be awesome!
 
2012-05-18 11:59:34 AM

INeedAName:
On a side note, why does DC seem to have such a hard time with this?


Because DC is owned by Time Warner, so instead of being able to create their own movie studio to control their work, they're owned by a movie studio that controls their work and not in a good way. But, on the other hand, Time Warner owns all of DC, so if they ever do get their act together, they can do anything they want. Marvel does not have that option at this time.
 
2012-05-18 12:08:53 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: INeedAName:
On a side note, why does DC seem to have such a hard time with this?

Because DC is owned by Time Warner, so instead of being able to create their own movie studio to control their work, they're owned by a movie studio that controls their work and not in a good way. But, on the other hand, Time Warner owns all of DC, so if they ever do get their act together, they can do anything they want. Marvel does not have that option at this time.


Yeah I was hoping that they were going to start shaping all this stuff with Green Lantern last year. I was so excited for the art design and direction, and then I read the leaked script and thought it was terrible. Ryan Reynolds was an iffy choice for Hal, but I thought he did a decent job with the material. That script stank and the heads of the studio thought they had cracked it.

At this point the DC's stable of heroes are so larger than life that they are tough to pull off without seemingly cheesy (Except for Batman of course)

I used to think that Marvel's formula wouldn't work for DC because the characters themselves are just different. With the exception the cosmic stuff in Thor and Avengers they haven't been grounded in the same way. The real test will be the level of success with Zach Snyder's new Superman movie. Chris Nolan has his hands on that one so it will be closer to a real world feel than the DC movies have conventionally had.

If it does work and they have a hit, then expect all the DC franchises that have sat in development hell to get the "Nolan" treatment and some sort of realistic grounding.
 
2012-05-18 12:10:09 PM
scottydoesntknow:
I'm trying to remember if anything really mattered in Iron Man 2, but for the life of me I can't.


Introduction of Black Widow, lots of SHIELD stuff.
 
2012-05-18 12:34:39 PM

AkaranD: Serious answer:
All of them except the Hulk. Each one gives a backstory or some little hint at the end of each as to what's to come soon after.


Hulk had a scene at the end that tied into avengers.
 
2012-05-18 12:37:06 PM

mcgreggers99: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Pretty much any Marvel movie made so far, they all touch something in it. But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.


I'd disagree. Captain America seems to be the most crucial so you have some farking idea what the tesseract is, since it's central to the movie and all
 
2012-05-18 12:38:57 PM

liam76: AkaranD: Serious answer:
All of them except the Hulk. Each one gives a backstory or some little hint at the end of each as to what's to come soon after.

Hulk had a scene at the end that tied into avengers.


I think AkaranD was referring to Ang Lee's Hulk, not the recent one with Edward Norton.
 
2012-05-18 12:53:17 PM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


To be honest you really don't NEED to see any of them before seeing Avengers, but you will miss out on a few references and some background, as well as missing out on some ok to pretty good comic movies. I actually haven't seen Thor, Captain America or the Hulk movies (besides the retarded Ang Lee one) and I liked Avengers just fine. Granted I read a pretty fair number of comics involving all of those characters in my youth, so I don't think I missed too much.
 
2012-05-18 01:02:21 PM
No amount of money is enough when it comes to keeping him on their projects but I'm pretty sure he'll come up with an amount that suits him.
 
2012-05-18 01:08:16 PM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


Hudson Hawk, Quigley Down Under, Young Einstein, City Slickers 2, Soul Plane, Clue, Sex Drive, the Black Hole, You Got Served, Ghost Dad, and the Erotic Adventures of Hercules.
 
2012-05-18 01:10:38 PM

INeedAName: scottydoesntknow: He might be Jesus Christ of the Marvel Universe, but he's definitely the messiah for Marvel Studios

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Marvel desperately needs to regain possession of some of their IPs like Spidey and the FF. As the studio has really gotten itself together there is a great potential for some seriously good movies.


This; sadly, as long as Sony, et. al. keep churning out movies, Marvel will never gain possession of them. Worse, fully knowing that Marvel may succeed where they failed, they might go scorched earth on characters like Spidey just so Marvel won't produce a movie for years.

The movie studios could be that farking scummy about it.

On a side note, why does DC seem to have such a hard time with this?

IMHO, since DC's attached to the hip to WB and the Warner execs are in control, they'll keep farking it up in one fashion or another.
 
2012-05-18 01:30:53 PM

DemoKnite: Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


I hadn't seen any of them (nor am I much of a comics geek) and I loved *every single second* of The Avengers. I'm sure you'll get more out of it if you've seen the others, but they're not necessary.
 
2012-05-18 01:30:53 PM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"


Blade.
 
2012-05-18 01:51:43 PM
You mean he doesn't really exist?
 
2012-05-18 02:06:05 PM

jeanwearinfool: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Blade

Trinity.
 
2012-05-18 02:12:33 PM

CravenMorehead: You mean he doesn't really exist?


No he does exist, but he's actually black.
 
2012-05-18 02:17:17 PM

Subdue their bellies: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Hudson Hawk, Quigley Down Under, Young Einstein, City Slickers 2, Soul Plane, Clue, Sex Drive, the Black Hole, You Got Served, Ghost Dad, and the Erotic Adventures of Hercules.


Hey, you shut your mouth about Hudson Hawk!
 
2012-05-18 02:44:13 PM

Subdue their bellies: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Hudson Hawk, Quigley Down Under, Young Einstein, City Slickers 2, Soul Plane, Clue, Sex Drive, the Black Hole, You Got Served, Ghost Dad, and the Erotic Adventures of Hercules.


heh, but Clue does not belong in any list that includes any of those other movies.

...because it's unarguably a great movie. cheers
 
2012-05-18 02:49:26 PM

DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"



Captain America and Thor are the two most important. In Captain America they explain the MacGuffin, and in Thor you get the backstory of the villain. If I had to pick one most important to watch beforehand, I'd say Thor since you'll understand the villain more. A MacGuffin is a MacGuffin...

Watching the movies before the Avengers isn't strictly necessary, but I would recommend at least watching those two if you can. It wouldn't hurt to also watch the Iron Man movies, just to get the backstory on Tony Stark, but is less important. I hadn't watched Thor until the day before I went to see the Avengers, and my wife and I were happy we did.
 
2012-05-18 03:10:33 PM
Iron Man is for Marvel what Batman is for DC.

Each of the lead-up films contributed something to The Avengers plot.

Capt America: Capt America & The Shiny Box Thingie
Iron Man: Iron Man & SHIELD & Idea of Avengers (& Samuel L Farking Jackson as) Fury & Agent Coulson
Iron Man 2: (Scarlet Johannsen as) Black Widow
Thor: Thor & Loki & Hawkeye
Hulk: Hulk

In terms of just comprehending it all... Iron Man, Capt America, and Thor seem to be the stories that contribute the most to The Avengers.
Too many different actors have done Hulk (although I really think Norton did a fantastic job, and was classy about not being cast for The A).
Iron Man 2 was amusing in a 'develop the RDJ-Stark' character, but I don't really see it having added much to the run-up aside from Johannsen in a tight bodysuit.
 
2012-05-18 03:48:07 PM
I told a friend of mine that Avengers is about the villain from Thor trying to use the MacGuffin from Captain America to take over the world, mostly set in Iron Man's New York.

I think a lot of credit has to be given to the production team for the first Iron Man because they really set the tone for how the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe would play out, so slotting Tony as Jesus makes total sense to me.
 
2012-05-18 03:49:51 PM
Am I crazy in thinking that Warner Bros, while seeing the success of the Avengers could eventually try a JL movie? We have Batman, they rebooted Superman and then gave us Green lantern. I don't see it as a real big stretch.

/I could be crazy, but I don't think so
 
2012-05-18 04:34:21 PM
Remember, thou art mortal!
 
2012-05-18 04:46:06 PM

Unoriginal_Username: Am I crazy in thinking that Warner Bros, while seeing the success of the Avengers could eventually try a JL movie? We have Batman, they rebooted Superman and then gave us Green lantern. I don't see it as a real big stretch.

/I could be crazy, but I don't think so


Considering the only truly successful franchise out of those is Batman, and Nolan is ending his vision with DKR, they would have a hard time drumming up excitement for it.

That last Superman movie was just dreadful. I've only fallen asleep twice in movie theaters, and that was one of them (The Golden Compass was the other one).
 
2012-05-18 05:44:52 PM

scottydoesntknow: He might be Jesus Christ of the Marvel Universe, but he's definitely the messiah for Marvel Studios

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While I agree as far as the Avengers go, Iron Man wouldn't have been made without the success of the Xmen films, also a Marvel property(but distributed by Fox)
 
2012-05-18 05:52:27 PM
Don't you blaspheme in here!
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2012-05-18 06:45:29 PM

Subdue their bellies: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Hudson Hawk, Quigley Down Under, Young Einstein, City Slickers 2, Soul Plane, Clue, Sex Drive, the Black Hole, You Got Served, Ghost Dad, and the Erotic Adventures of Hercules.


You forgot Howard The Duck.
 
2012-05-18 07:18:59 PM

divx88: Remember, thou art mortal!


Oh, blow it out your ass!
 
2012-05-18 08:52:25 PM

INeedAName: mcgreggers99: DemoKnite: Serious question...

Which movies should I see before I see "The Avengers"

Pretty much any Marvel movie made so far, they all touch something in it. But I'd say Thor and Iron Man 2 are probably the most important.

I didn't see Thor and I didn't feel like I missed much during the movie. Though I wouldn't mind going back and watching it now. Thor was just never a favorite of mine.


Don't bother. I was advised to see Thor before The Avengers so I wouldn't miss out on vital plot points.

Meh. If you're at all familiar with the Marvel Universe, you won't need to. You can already figure out from dialogue that Thor and Loki are brothers, and enemies.

The movie, IMO, sucked. Sorry, but the romance between Thor and Jane just seemed utterly contrived and unconvincing. There was no real reason for Thor to reciprocate Jane's affection.

If you don't mind spending a couple bucks to rent the Thor movie and waste a couple hours, go ahead.

The only things you need to know are:

SPOILERS: >> Loki is the son of the king of the Frost Giants, who was abandoned and left to die as an infant because he was a runt, and looked too human/Asgardian. Odin adopted him in hopes of maintaining the peace between Asgard and Jotunheim. This was not disclosed to Loki, who discovered it on his own, and was the cause of much anger and resentment. Loki usurped the throne of Asgard after Odin banished Thor to Earth for an arrogant attack on Jotunheim that threatened to disrupt the truce, and then fell into the Odinsleep. Thor discovered his machinations, regained his power, and overthrew Loki.

The blaster Agent Coulson used on Loki ("Oh. That's what it does") was based upon The Destroyer's beam weapon. Loki had sent The Destroyer to Earth to kill Thor while he was depowered, and SHIELD apparently reverse engineered the technology.

Natalie Portman portrayed Jane Foster in the Thor movie, and she's an astrophysicist with an interest in wormholes, instead of a nurse as in the comics. She was researching the effects of the Bifrost Bridge, which in the movie is a wormhole generator, and thus came to meet Thor when he was banished to Earth. This is why there was a scene in The Avengers in which Agent Coulson reassured Thor that she was transported to a safe locale.

The Bifrost Bridge was destroyed at the end of the Thor movie, hence Loki commenting in The Avengers that Odin must have expended a great deal of dark energy to transport Thor to Earthrealm. Loki fell into a wormhole rift caused by the destruction of the Bifrost, and was transported to parts unknown at the end of the Thor movie.

The Cosmic Cube was required to transport Thor and Loki back to Asgard at the end of the Avengers movie, due to the destruction of the Bifrost Bridge.

Erik Selvig, the astrophysicist mind-controlled by Loki in The Avengers, was Jane Foster's academic mentor. He is Norwegian, and recognized Thor and Mjolnir as the source of the ancient Norse myths. He befriended Thor in his depowered state. Jane (confronting Thor and Erik after a drunken carousal): "What the hell have you two been doing?" Thor: "We drank, we fought... he made his ancestors proud!" Erik: "I still don't believe you're the God of Thunder... but you *should* be!"

Iron Man and Iron Man 2 are worth watching. Robert Downey Jr is the *perfect* Tony Stark (the Ultimates version, anyway). Both are manic, alcoholic, erratic geniuses. (genii?)
 
2012-05-18 08:55:42 PM

Cinaed: Iron Man is for Marvel what Batman is for DC.

Each of the lead-up films contributed something to The Avengers plot.

Capt America: Capt America & The Shiny Box Thingie
Iron Man: Iron Man & SHIELD & Idea of Avengers (& Samuel L Farking Jackson as) Fury & Agent Coulson
Iron Man 2: (Scarlet Johannsen as) Black Widow
Thor: Thor & Loki & Hawkeye
Hulk: Hulk

In terms of just comprehending it all... Iron Man, Capt America, and Thor seem to be the stories that contribute the most to The Avengers.
Too many different actors have done Hulk (although I really think Norton did a fantastic job, and was classy about not being cast for The A).
Iron Man 2 was amusing in a 'develop the RDJ-Stark' character, but I don't really see it having added much to the run-up aside from Johannsen in a tight bodysuit.


You can see all of the post-credits scenes here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgKVcHdcOGM
 
2012-05-18 09:39:54 PM

Tiberius Gracchus: CravenMorehead: You mean he doesn't really exist?

No he does exist, but he's actually black.


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/hot like the Black Widow
 
2012-05-19 02:28:37 AM

INeedAName: scottydoesntknow: He might be Jesus Christ of the Marvel Universe, but he's definitely the messiah for Marvel Studios

[www.alwayswatching.net image 480x293]

Marvel desperately needs to regain possession of some of their IPs like Spidey and the FF. As the studio has really gotten itself together there is a great potential for some seriously good movies.

On a side note, why does DC seem to have such a hard time with this?


Funny thing is I remember me and my friends saying the nearly the exact same thing in the 80's and 90's, but switching the companies around. On the DC side we had Superman I and II. Batman I and II. What did Marvel have out at the time? Punisher with Dolph Lundgren and Captain America with Red Brown!?! A Fantastic Four movie that no one saw. ummm a TV movie of Doctor Strange, which has to be seen to be believed.
 
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