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2012-05-18 02:26:10 PM

Any Pie Left: Shran's family.

An Andorian ....



SHRAN!

I'd watch it.
 
2012-05-18 02:42:46 PM
I've had a couple of ideas about new Trek a short while ago before Netflix started streaming the originals so I could watch them at an age that I can remember them. Can't say that they are good ideas but here they are.

Starfleet Academy- a show about a group of cadets going through Starfleet Academy (duh), unfortunately, any way I sliced it it would likely end up a teen drama.

Star Trek: Federation- a show taking place in the Weeners Contact period before Earth really got into space and becomes the base of the Federation. Zefram Cochrane can be acting as an ambassador to the Vulcans and at the same time dealing with Earthly turmoil from finding out that that "We are not alone." This would be a better series for a seasonal story arc and not the weekly stories that have nothing to do with each other. It would also answer those questions like, how is it Earth became the center of the Federation when other species already had Warp ability before Earth did.
 
2012-05-18 02:47:18 PM

beerdini: Weeners Contact


Eww!
 
2012-05-18 03:22:10 PM

BullBearMS: Neums: It's actually been a pretty good storyline.

You, sir or madam, have added to my reading list. I haven't read any Star Trek fiction since TNG was still on the air, either. (Although I was once tempted by the blurb on one book that contained the phrase, "Vedic Weyoun")


I believe you're talking about the Millenium Trilogy from DS9. A new, red wormhole emerges when the Pah Wraiths get their own temple. The crew winds up in a future where Weyoun is a Vedek for them.

Trying to remember when I started back up, to help you out...

TNG books:
Death in Winter (1st in the TNG relaunch)
Resistance
Q&A
Before Dishonor (precursor to the Borg War)
Greater than the Sum
Destiny Trilogy:
• Gods of Night
• Mere Mortals
• Lost Souls
Losing the Peace (kind of a prologue to the Typhon Pact)
Indistinguishable From Magic (standalone Geordi book; not sure when it occurs but def. after Destiny)
Typhon Pact:
• Zero Sum Game (Aventine (Dax's ship) and Bashir spy book)
• Seize the Fire (Titan (Riker's ship))
• Rough Beasts of Empire (DS9)
• Paths of Disharmony (TNG)
• The Struggle Within (TNG) (this is eBook only)
• Plagues of Night (end of May)
• Raise the Dawn (June)
• Brinkmanship (Sept.)

DS9 Relaunch
The Lives of Dax (anthology book)
Avatar (two-parter)
Section 31: Abyss
Two shorts in the Gateways series
Mission Gamma: (think you can get all 4 in an omnibus edition)
• Twilight
• This Gray Spirit
• Cathedral
• Lesser Evil
Rising Son (Jake's adventures in the Gamma Quadrant)
The Left Hand of Destiny (Worf and Martok 2-parter)
Unity (Sisko's return, Bajor joins Federation officially)
Worlds of DS9:
• Cardassia (The Lotus Flower); Andor (Paradigm)
• Trill (Unjoined); Bajor (Fragments and Omens)
• The Dominion (Olympus Descending); Ferenginar (Satisfaction is Not Guaranteed)
Mirror trilogy (not really called that though):
• Warpath
• Fearful Symmetry
• The Soul Key
The Neverending Sacrifice (all Cardassian book)
(2-year gap)
The 2 Typhon Pact books

Voyager Relaunch (my list, to keep it post series because there are some set in-series):
Homecoming:
• Homecoming
• The Farther Shore
Spirit Walk:
• Old Wounds
• Enemy of My Enemy
(unknown amount of time passes, then Destiny trilogy happens)
Full Circle
Unworthy
Children of the Storm
The Eternal Tide (Sept.)

Enterprise (if you're interested, that is):
The Good that Men Do (Trip ain't dead; now surgically altered and infiltrating the Romulans for Section 31)
Kobayashi Maru
The Romulan War
• Beneath the Raptor's Wing
• To Brave the Storm
(presumably the series is done now)

All of this is thanks to Memory Alpha. You have a journey ahead of you, but you can blow through these books in maybe a few days at a time, depending on your speed.
 
2012-05-18 03:38:52 PM
RevRaven:

Careful, now... because you dared to not like the latest "Star Trek" movie, someone is going to pop up to tell you to go write some more Voyager Section 31 fanfic and masturbate over it, then tell you just how great it was because Star Trek is only Kirk, Spock, and McCoy, and they're all that matters.
 
2012-05-18 04:03:01 PM

penguinfark: DjangoStonereaver: I was never a fan of the idea of ST:TNG from the get-go, and it didn't help
that the first two seasons were utter drek. I had such a bad taste from them
that even when it got better I just couldn't bring myself to watch it.


Oh come, who doesn't love the 1st season episode about the interstellar African/Black people? That there's some good writing.

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Season 1 of TNG gave us the greatest line of dialogue in Star Trek history: I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie.
 
2012-05-18 04:04:07 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot the Titan books on that list. Because I haven't read them. But they're post-Nemesis. And Tuvok is on Riker's ship with Troi. And the CMO is a humanoid dinosaur (Saurian).
 
2012-05-18 04:11:48 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Gimmick: Star Trek: Pawn Stars?





"CONSTITUTION-class starship? Its kinda beat up. 25000 credits. Final offer"


Pawn dude would look better in Ferengi makeup
 
2012-05-18 04:25:49 PM

Coelacanth: Dr Quest DFA: Your niece might also like John Scalzi's "Old Man's War". Very similiar in structure as Starship Troopers (protaganist joins an interstellar military and the plot follows his journey thorugh it) but with its own interesting wrinkles. For instance: instead of battle suits, the recruits are uploaded into genetically modified and enhanced bodies. This was written pre-Avatar by the way.

As far as a new Trek series goes, I think a Section 31 series would be pretty awesome. If you wanted to go more traditional, the Gamma and Delta Quadrants have a lot of potential for a long range exploration vessel plot line.

/Still enjoy DS9 the most.

Thanks. I will look for it.

I'm getting kind of tired of Star Fleet. I want to see what normal people do for change. And what passes for normal.

And yeah, DS9 was my fav too. The Ferengis reminded me of almost every immigrant family I had ever met.


Check out Scalzi's Zoe's Tale then. Set in the same old mans universe but from the perspective of said old mans daughter. The whole series is a fun read.
 
2012-05-18 06:27:30 PM

bdub77: Can we please, for the love of God, get a movie about Voyager, by far the best Trek Series of all time?


Voyager could've been it's own movie trilogy to begin with. Imagine the uptick in quality that might've caused. Instead, we had a couple 2 hour big screen episodes of TNG.
 
2012-05-18 06:36:18 PM

Lernaeus: Start with Christina Hendricks as Beverly and take it from there.

Engage!


Considering what kind of character she has in Mad Men, I think she would be an intriguing Tasha Yar.
 
2012-05-18 07:12:45 PM

CalamitousCrasher: Coelacanth: Dr Quest DFA: Your niece might also like John Scalzi's "Old Man's War". Very similiar in structure as Starship Troopers (protaganist joins an interstellar military and the plot follows his journey thorugh it) but with its own interesting wrinkles. For instance: instead of battle suits, the recruits are uploaded into genetically modified and enhanced bodies. This was written pre-Avatar by the way.

As far as a new Trek series goes, I think a Section 31 series would be pretty awesome. If you wanted to go more traditional, the Gamma and Delta Quadrants have a lot of potential for a long range exploration vessel plot line.

/Still enjoy DS9 the most.

Thanks. I will look for it.

I'm getting kind of tired of Star Fleet. I want to see what normal people do for change. And what passes for normal.

And yeah, DS9 was my fav too. The Ferengis reminded me of almost every immigrant family I had ever met.

Check out Scalzi's Zoe's Tale then. Set in the same old mans universe but from the perspective of said old mans daughter. The whole series is a fun read.


Also, for those that are a fan of that series, here is a nifty stand alone short story that Scalzi penned in that universe: After the Coup
 
2012-05-18 09:54:49 PM

CalamitousCrasher: DjangoStonereaver: Gimmick: Star Trek: Pawn Stars?

"CONSTITUTION-class starship? Its kinda beat up. 25000 credits. Final offer"

Pawn dude would look better in Ferengi makeup


I smell a photoshop contest
 
2012-05-18 11:11:01 PM
1. Somebody sticking Braga in a deep fat fryer, balls first.

2. Mirror universe series.
 
2012-05-19 02:01:02 AM
And by "great" you mean "stupid."

Here's mine: "Federation" would show us everything that all the other series never let us see: everything else. The Federation is HUGE. But we're always limited to seeing only tiny glimpses of it, through the pinhole of a single very small stage with a rather small cast who change very little over the course of time. How about we ditch the common stage and common cast, or at least have at least several of both, perhaps rotating, with plenty of one-shot fill-ins with people and places we've never seen before and never will again? They'd occasionally have some interaction with each other -- perhaps direct, perhaps only distant -- to remind us that they're part of the same great galaxy-spanning society. But they'd mostly live and function independently of each other, so that we can see how different Federation groups function apart from each other, how each create and experience their own small worlds. I think that's a lot more interesting than seeing the same handful of tired faces week in and week out. If I thought that was entertaining, I'd just stay at work instead of watching TV.
 
2012-05-19 02:41:37 AM
I once tried to write a Star Trek spoof, about the *worst* people in Starfleet, the ones who are useless but you can't get rid of. They get crap assignments that are incredibly boring, and they spend all their time and energy engaged in petty drama, squabbles, sleeping around, and occasional ill-considered mischief. Sort of 'Star Trek' meets 'The Specials,' because they're not bad people, just not very good.

One script involved them being denied scheduled leave (because Starfleet Command has no respect for them), so they get the (not so) bright idea to break the ship and take it out of commission, so that they've *have* to get leave. Instead, they get sent right back out in the Starfleet equivalent of a shop loaner -- a real shiatbucket of a ship, with all kinds of broken crap (more or less the equivalent of the glovebox that flies open when you turn left -- maybe even literally). Best of all, there's an unpleasant surprise for the young, poorly trained helmsman: it's a stick. Lots of lurching ensues.

More: The young, not especially bright, 100% Vulcan science officer who was sent to Starfleet Academy in the hopes he'd never come home again. (He's reasonably clever by human standards, but only passable by Vulcan standards -- a disappointment and embarrassment to his family.) He's an undefeated champion in three-dimensional Parcheesi. He doesn't understand humans, so he tries to fit in by imitating popular tropes, shifting from one ridiculous caricature to another that he doesn't get and can't pull off. He spends most of the above episode trying to be a homeboy, and then a Down Low. (After a misguided attempt by the extremely sexual communications officer to teach him a trick or two, but he doesn't get human sexuality either.) At the end of the episode, the captain finds him waiting for him in his bed: "Got your log right here, Captain."

I keep imagining David Spade as the Captain for some reason. Probably because I imagine the character being somewhat like Spade's character Finch in 'Just Shoot Me!' -- gets by on charm, survives on determination to grasp things beyond his reach, fears being revealed for the fake that he is, and secretly wishes someone would just kill him already. His boss is Commodore Inway, who I modelled after my own boss at the time (and also called that, behind his back). He was always in my way, somehow, but more than that, he had that special talent of making me want to put a fork into my brain through my eyeball just by talking to me. Inway is a schlub, too, but unlike the others doesn't know it: he looks down on them, but they know the real reason he's been put in charge of them. Since he's who he is, he's immune to ridicule, mostly for lack of any sense of irony; he can only get angry, and that's not very useful or entertaining.

Their regular ship (when it's not broken) is the Buquet, named for a 19th Century entomologist. (It's also "buggy.") It's pronounced "boo-kay," like flowers, but everyone else calls it "the Bucket." And yes, that's a deliberate (reverse) reference to 'Keeping Up Appearances'. It's not a great ship. It's a factory second, and sort of a lemon. Stuff breaks down all the time. It's the only ship in the Fleet where the crew use stairs a lot, often routinely. (Only two decks to go? Why risk getting stuck in the turboelevator?) The food synths aren't spectacular: it's sort of like eating at Sodexho. The Computer sometimes hesitates when giving answers ("Well, um..") and occasionally coughs. One of the shuttlecraft doors sticks sometimes. (If you tap it just right, it goes just fine, but a lot of the shuttlecraft have crumpled corners from this -- and they use those all the time, of course, instead of the balky transporters.) The one thing that never breaks down is the bowling alley, so they spend a lot of time there. (I've been trying to figure out how to work in some Lebowski stuff for this.)

You get the idea. If this was a real series, I'd watch it over any of the others.
 
2012-05-19 02:46:42 AM

Bondith: As for Trek, any idea that doesn't allow Berman or Braga anywhere near it works for me.


Amen. I hate those guys.
 
2012-05-19 02:50:57 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: And by "great" you mean "stupid."

Here's mine: "Federation" would show us everything that all the other series never let us see: everything else. The Federation is HUGE. But we're always limited to seeing only tiny glimpses of it, through the pinhole of a single very small stage with a rather small cast who change very little over the course of time. How about we ditch the common stage and common cast, or at least have at least several of both, perhaps rotating, with plenty of one-shot fill-ins with people and places we've never seen before and never will again? They'd occasionally have some interaction with each other -- perhaps direct, perhaps only distant -- to remind us that they're part of the same great galaxy-spanning society. But they'd mostly live and function independently of each other, so that we can see how different Federation groups function apart from each other, how each create and experience their own small worlds. I think that's a lot more interesting than seeing the same handful of tired faces week in and week out. If I thought that was entertaining, I'd just stay at work instead of watching TV.


Call it Star Trek: Palais. Because the seat of the Federation president is in the Palais de la Concorde in France. It'd be like West Wing, Star Trek style.
 
2012-05-19 02:54:23 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I once tried to write a Star Trek spoof, about the *worst* people in Starfleet, the ones who are useless but you can't get rid of. They get crap assignments that are incredibly boring, and they spend all their time and energy engaged in petty drama, squabbles, sleeping around, and occasional ill-considered mischief. Sort of 'Star Trek' meets 'The Specials,' because they're not bad people, just not very good.

One script involved them being denied scheduled leave (because Starfleet Command has no respect for them), so they get the (not so) bright idea to break the ship and take it out of commission, so that they've *have* to get leave. Instead, they get sent right back out in the Starfleet equivalent of a shop loaner -- a real shiatbucket of a ship, with all kinds of broken crap (more or less the equivalent of the glovebox that flies open when you turn left -- maybe even literally). Best of all, there's an unpleasant surprise for the young, poorly trained helmsman: it's a stick. Lots of lurching ensues.

More: The young, not especially bright, 100% Vulcan science officer who was sent to Starfleet Academy in the hopes he'd never come home again. (He's reasonably clever by human standards, but only passable by Vulcan standards -- a disappointment and embarrassment to his family.) He's an undefeated champion in three-dimensional Parcheesi. He doesn't understand humans, so he tries to fit in by imitating popular tropes, shifting from one ridiculous caricature to another that he doesn't get and can't pull off. He spends most of the above episode trying to be a homeboy, and then a Down Low. (After a misguided attempt by the extremely sexual communications officer to teach him a trick or two, but he doesn't get human sexuality either.) At the end of the episode, the captain finds him waiting for him in his bed: "Got your log right here, Captain."

I keep imagining David Spade as the Captain for some reason. Probably because I imagine the character being somewhat like Spade ...


Get David Koechner to play Inway.
 
2012-05-19 03:00:26 AM

fisker: Star Trek The Next Generation will never be topped.

There is no way in hell they are ever going to be able to beat that cast, that quality in writing, or its style. We are never going to have another Data, Or someone of Patrick Stewart's charisma and integrity.

The nest Star Trek series is going to have Justin Bieber as the captain of the Enterprise and Selena Gomez as the alien he hunts down and farks every episode. It will be too flashy and consist of a bunch of children running around playing with ipads and a holodeck built on the basis some kind of Facebook foundation.

It's OVER!

It's all over. It's time to hand the world over to 12 year-old girls.


Now you know how hardcore TOS fans feel.
 
2012-05-19 03:01:41 AM

Coelacanth: fisker: It's all over. It's time to hand the world over to 12 year-old girls.

i dunno about that. My 12 year old niece who absolutely positively hates Twilight, but she loves all the Robert A. Heinlein books I've gotten her.

/She told me that Starship Troopers (the book, NOT the movie) is her favorite.


I dated the older version of her 20 years ago. She'll probably also like the SCA.
 
2012-05-19 03:10:02 AM

Billified: I've always thought a series centered n Starfleet/Federation government itself could be interesting.


I got the boxed set of 'Space: 1999' because I had very distorted awesome memories of it from my childhood. It turns out that after the first half of the first episode, it goes downhill pretty fast. They really had no good ideas for what to do with an otherwise very interesting setting they'd created. (It was perhaps ideal for hard SF, but not for a TV show run by the Andersons.) But the setup for that was great, and I was very interested in the political issues discussed in the first half. I wanted to see and learn a lot more about Commander Gorski (who we only see for a few seconds, when he hands over command to Koenig), and see more of the back-home squabbling among the Lunar Finance Committee. All that stuff was actually more interesting than anything that followed.
 
2012-05-19 03:17:07 AM

hogans: How about a series that skips around a lot? Run a four-parter on the crew of a Klingon Bird of Prey, then dash off to the Romulans and a secret bureau plotting an incident with the Breen. Next up, Ferengi doing whatever they can for profit...

On the downside, set costs would be huge, since every few weeks they'd have to break down major sets and build new ones from scratch. On the upside, no fans would be bored for long. They'd just have to tune in next week if they don't like what's on now.


I love your idea, and no, set costs would be minimal, thanks to modern CGI. I know that not from direct experience but from astute observation: When I was in high school, I noticed that Who fans would make fan films, and I wondered why Trek fans didn't. I immediately realised how hard it would be to do the sets. But technology has caught up. The brilliantly executed 'Star Wreck: In the Pirkinning' was done on a zero budget, using only costumes, green screens, and CGI. And it looks magnificent. Take a look at all the ST fan films out now. They may not be awesome looking, but they're good enough, and those are the no-budget examples of what's possible. Paramount has money and can do much better.
 
2012-05-19 03:22:24 AM

Dr Quest DFA: Coelacanth: fisker: It's all over. It's time to hand the world over to 12 year-old girls.

i dunno about that. My 12 year old niece who absolutely positively hates Twilight, but she loves all the Robert A. Heinlein books I've gotten her.

/She told me that Starship Troopers (the book, NOT the movie) is her favorite.

Your niece might also like John Scalzi's "Old Man's War". Very similiar in structure as Starship Troopers (protaganist joins an interstellar military and the plot follows his journey thorugh it) but with its own interesting wrinkles. For instance: instead of battle suits, the recruits are uploaded into genetically modified and enhanced bodies. This was written pre-Avatar by the way.

As far as a new Trek series goes, I think a Section 31 series would be pretty awesome. If you wanted to go more traditional, the Gamma and Delta Quadrants have a lot of potential for a long range exploration vessel plot line.

/Still enjoy DS9 the most.


Let me also recommend pretty much everything by C.J. Cherryh. I like the Union/Alliance stuff best (the environment of her masterpiece 'Downbelow Station'), but anything she writes is great.
 
2012-05-19 03:26:40 AM

Samwise Gamgee: An idea I had a while back:

We explore the commercial, non-Federation universe. The show follows the employees of a terraforming firm. They are on a commercial ship which surveys candidate planets for possible terraforming, deliver goods, supplies, and colonists to planets undergoing the terraforming process, and perform administrative roles. They are often at the edge of, or even outside of, Federation space - perhaps to cater to colonists that don't want to live under Federation regulation. While they're not strictly explorers, they accidentally stumble on new life, others competing for the same resources, etc.

To spice things up, set it parallel to DS9, and have the Dominion war play a background role for a few seasons. One of the likable young crew members gets all patriotic and volunteers for service in Starfleet (or, if you really want to be edgy, he/she gets drafted, and of course everyone is sad when news of his or her death is received.

Which means that when the crew stumble across a planet at the edge of Federation space, far from Starfleet backup, that has a hidden Dominion base/fleetyard on it, they have to choose whether to flee before being noticed, or try to take them on using commercial-grade defenses and terraforming equipment...

I think it could be a badass show. They take contracts from colonists/interested parties of any planet/race, and have to ponder the moral quandries of secretly taking a contract from the Cardassians or Romulans to terraform colonies for them in strategic areas... is a cargo bay full of gold-pressed latinum worth it?


I love your idea.
 
2012-05-19 03:28:17 AM

beerdini: a show taking place in the Weeners Contact period


So, you're going for the Adult Swim angle, too?
 
2012-05-19 03:30:09 AM

that bosnian sniper: 1. Somebody sticking Braga in a deep fat fryer, balls first.


I'm in. Tell me where to send the cheque.
 
2012-05-19 03:37:27 AM

Neums: Get David Koechner to play Inway.


O yeah, he'd be good. I just saw 'A Good Old Fashioned Orgy,' and he'd be great. The thing about my boss that the character is based on is that he could be both boring and infuriating at the same time. That's not easy to pull off.
 
2012-05-19 05:39:02 AM

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: I dated the older version of her 20 years ago. She'll probably also like the SCA.


I told her to look into that. She seems to be leaning towards The Empire of Chivalry and Steel because they have fights with real weapons.

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Let me also recommend pretty much everything by C.J. Cherryh. I like the Union/Alliance stuff best (the environment of her masterpiece 'Downbelow Station'), but anything she writes is great.


She's getting into Cherryh just as we speak. I gave her a copy of Hestia on my last visit. If she likes that, I have the Chanur books stashed somewhere. .
 
2012-05-19 04:17:34 PM
Set it 25 or 50 years after TNG. Update the tech with what we now know about genetic engineering, nanotech, etc. Portray a much richer, more diverse universe where everybody doesn't play by the Federation's rules, the aliens really are alien (not all bipeds, not all mammals, etc), and there are a wide variety of cybernetically enhanced beings.

Have a ship that moves between among non-Federation worlds, Ditch the TNG idea that the Prime Directive means you can't interfere with post-warp societies (a dumb idea, TOS Prime Directive only applied to pre-warp).

Comment on social issues that divide us today, which was underlying much of the best of TOS. Is it ok to torture prisoners in some situations? Pre-emptive invasion? How much liberty will you trade away for safety? Do you ever negotiate with terrorists/hostage takers/etc? Do you throw a less powerful ally under the bus to cut a deal with a powerful enemy?

The issues of civil liberties and politics could fuel endless stories, with sci fi macguffins to drive the plot and keep the fanbois happy. Make the moral issues complex, similar to great shows like The Wire, The Shield, etc. Have some anti-heroes.

You only make the numbers on a show like this work if you draw in fans who wouldn't normally watch hard sci-fi, and the political/social issues do that. The original succeeded (eventually) because it was aimed at adults instead of the usual sci fi kiddie fare. Bring that spirit back.

All of this talk of "Section 31!" and other clever ideas is nice inside baseball, but it isn't what builds the mass market appeal that makes an expensive show like this work. Think big, as in big ideas.
 
2012-05-19 07:44:27 PM

MisterRonbo: Set it 25 or 50 years after TNG. Update the tech with what we now know about genetic engineering, nanotech, etc. Portray a much richer, more diverse universe where everybody doesn't play by the Federation's rules, the aliens really are alien (not all bipeds, not all mammals, etc), and there are a wide variety of cybernetically enhanced beings.

Have a ship that moves between among non-Federation worlds, Ditch the TNG idea that the Prime Directive means you can't interfere with post-warp societies (a dumb idea, TOS Prime Directive only applied to pre-warp).

Comment on social issues that divide us today, which was underlying much of the best of TOS. Is it ok to torture prisoners in some situations? Pre-emptive invasion? How much liberty will you trade away for safety? Do you ever negotiate with terrorists/hostage takers/etc? Do you throw a less powerful ally under the bus to cut a deal with a powerful enemy?

The issues of civil liberties and politics could fuel endless stories, with sci fi macguffins to drive the plot and keep the fanbois happy. Make the moral issues complex, similar to great shows like The Wire, The Shield, etc. Have some anti-heroes.

You only make the numbers on a show like this work if you draw in fans who wouldn't normally watch hard sci-fi, and the political/social issues do that. The original succeeded (eventually) because it was aimed at adults instead of the usual sci fi kiddie fare. Bring that spirit back.

All of this talk of "Section 31!" and other clever ideas is nice inside baseball, but it isn't what builds the mass market appeal that makes an expensive show like this work. Think big, as in big ideas.


Actually, in a series like the one you propose, something like Section 31 would work just fine as the type of organization that does the dirty work of torture for information, or being the ones who provide the security in exchange for freedom.

But, they would just be an element of the story, not THE story.
 
2012-05-19 08:44:34 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Actually, in a series like the one you propose, something like Section 31 would work just fine as the type of organization that does the dirty work of torture for information, or being the ones who provide the security in exchange for freedom.


A series about a collection of people who do bad illegal things so that the Federation can have the happy face that they keep preaching to everyone about would be awesome.
 
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