But I take it it's still OK to bring a live gun to an event Obama is speaking at.

Can you imagine how frustrating this must be for Romney's secret service agents?

Who cares?

This has been going on since the days of the Wild West in the United States. Everyone knows the most important weapon at the convention is speech. And as long as the First Amendment isn't halted, everything will be fine.

As a result, he said, the city's success or failure in protecting the First Amendment rights of demonstrators will rely on the intelligence, flexibility and judgment of the police who will interpret and enforce the new rules.

UH OH!

sammyk: What kind of pussy thinks he needs a gun at a public gathering that will have thousands of police, secret service, FBI, private security........?????????? If you are that worried about civil unrest go hide in your farking bunker!

It is soo easy to lose your gun rights. Why can't we add being too stupid to safely own a gun to that list?

We've got a bunch of pantshiatting Republicans here in WI that complain that you can't bring a firearm to a polling place. They claim it's for protection and to keep anyone from attempting to intimidate them. You aren't allowed to talk about politics, wear pins or clothing supporting any particular candidate or party, or do basically anything political other than show up, cast your ballot in private, and leave. Yet, these people are scared to show up to a poll without a gun.

These people are either complete farking cowards, or sick farks that have some sort of fetish about being ultra-mega-Murikan by carrying a gun while voting.

I demand that we pass a voter fraud law that requires you to carry a gun when you vote. That way we know you're really American.

One gun, one vote.

I have been told time and time again by FARK gun nuts rights advocates, that guns defend people and make places safer. So why would these gun supporters try to ban them?

I see the issue here, and I agree with subby that this is stupid as Hell. I also think sammyk has a point, who really needs to be armed at an event like this anyway?

sammyk: What kind of pussy thinks he needs a gun at a public gathering that will have thousands of police, secret service, FBI, private security........??????????

I wouldn't go anywhere near that Tea Party, Birther, Clan meeting without being armed.

sammyk: What kind of pussy thinks he needs a gun at a public gathering that will have thousands of police, secret service, FBI, private security........??????????

A Republican kind of a pussy.

With any luck, there will be some second amendment solutions to some first amendment problems at the convention.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: James!: That's silly. Protestors can just as easily put urine in a squirt bottle.

Why not just piss on the delegates directly.

It takes me about an hour to reload after a good pee. Squirt bottles hold enough pee that I can soak a half dozen delegates.

RNC goers in Florida packing?

Oh, please, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin, Darwin...(crosses fingers)

sammyk: It is soo easy to lose your gun rights. Why can't we add being too stupid to safely own a gun to that list?

Most of the gun owners who are too stupid to safely own a gun vote.
A sizable portion of them are single-issue voters who will vote for or against politicians based solely on those politicians' stances on gun control.
Some of them are the politicians who pass the laws determining who is or isn't allowed to have a gun (legally) and the conditions under which someone could be moved from one list to the other.

Don't worry GOP, you can come unarmed. There will be a lower ratio of "blah" people there than at any event in the country.

Punishing people for possessing objects because you believe they're going to do something illegal with them is just a way to get around "innocent until proven guilty".

Are you telling me this man won't be able to practice his Constitutional rights openly?

jbuist: Plenty of states preempt local governments from mucking about with firearms laws. There's nothing strange about this at all.

To be fair, advocates of civilian disarmament are often notoriously ignorant of law.

How does the 2nd amendment not protect water guns

Pincy: But I take it it's still OK to bring a live gun to an event Obama is speaking at.

In fact, the United States Secret Service consistently establishes a civilian-weapons-free perimeter around any location where the President is speaking.

No guns?
Darn!
And I had already stocked up on popcorn.

theorellior: Are you telling me this man won't be able to practice his Constitutional rights openly?

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Right it was horrible for the Democrats even talking about people bringing guns to a demonstration but the GOP outlawing it is perfectly OK.

More double standards.

Headso: As a result, he said, the city's success or failure in protecting the First Amendment rights of demonstrators will rely on the intelligence, flexibility and judgment of the police who will interpret and enforce the new rules.

UH OH!

Yeah, that was a very snarky statement there by the ACLU.

theorellior: Are you telling me this man won't be able to practice his Constitutional rights openly?

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Florida state law explicitly prohibits the carrying of openly displayed firearms by civilians.

About 3 million people are injured in auto accidents each year. According to the FBI, there are about 1.2 million violent crimes.

Not every violent crime results in injury or loss. Many violent crimes are not random or involve escalation involving both the victim and aggressor.

The supposed justification for concealed carry is protection against a random public aggressor.

The odds of that happening are long.

People worry about stupid things.....

Corvus: theorellior: Are you telling me this man won't be able to practice his Constitutional rights openly?

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Right it was horrible for the Democrats even talking about people bringing guns to a demonstration but the GOP outlawing it is perfectly OK.

More double standards.

What, specifically, did the "GOP" "outlaw" and upon what occasion did they "outlaw" it?

I have an honest question...

Are gun allowed in the grandstands at a NASACR race?

Are many readers here that attendees of the convention will not actually be permitted to carry firearms within the convention center, and that Tampa government officials actually asked to be permitted to prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders outdoors in public locations, or is this fact simply being dishonestly ignored?

Dimensio: Are many readers here that attendees of the convention will not actually be permitted to carry firearms within the convention center, and that Tampa government officials actually asked to be permitted to prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders outdoors in public locations, or is this fact simply being dishonestly ignored?

Why won't they be allowed to carry in the convention center. An armed populace makes everyone safer. Why are the endangering the lives if the Republican politicians like this? What happens if some crazed terrorist gets in there and starts shooting and the delegates can't return fire? Why don't the Republicans support the Second Amendment?

Dimensio: Tampa government officials actually asked to be permitted to prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders outdoors in public locations

This request was denied by Rick Scott. Duh.

Dimensio: attendees of the convention will not actually be permitted to carry firearms within the convention center

That's true, I think that does get lost sometimes. You can't have a gun inside, the secret service doesn't give a fark about Florida state laws.

Splinshints: Many violent crimes are not random or involve escalation involving both the victim and aggressor.

The supposed justification for concealed carry is protection against a random public aggressor.

The odds of that happening are long.

People worry about stupid things.....

This is why I am against concealed carry but favor open carry. I think the world needs to know who the paraniod dicks are. If you're a proud gun owner then why conceal the thing that brings you the most joy in the world?

Philip Francis Queeg: Dimensio: Are many readers here that attendees of the convention will not actually be permitted to carry firearms within the convention center, and that Tampa government officials actually asked to be permitted to prohibit the carrying of concealed weapons by permit holders outdoors in public locations, or is this fact simply being dishonestly ignored?

Why won't they be allowed to carry in the convention center.

The United States Secret Service is controlling the event and is authorized to prohibit the carrying of weapons by unauthorized individuals.


An armed populace makes everyone safer. Why are the endangering the lives if the Republican politicians like this? What happens if some crazed terrorist gets in there and starts shooting and the delegates can't return fire? Why don't the Republicans support the Second Amendment?

You should direct such questions to the United States Secret Service, which is controlling security for the venue, rather than to the Republican party, which is not.

Muta: Splinshints: Many violent crimes are not random or involve escalation involving both the victim and aggressor.

The supposed justification for concealed carry is protection against a random public aggressor.

The odds of that happening are long.

People worry about stupid things.....

This is why I am against concealed carry but favor open carry. I think the world needs to know who the paraniod dicks are. If you're a proud gun owner then why conceal the thing that brings you the most joy in the world?

Fortunately, your irrational and baseless prejudices have not been used as the basis of law.