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(Townhall)   The president says he is a "practicing Christian." It is difficult to be one while simultaneously holding a low view of the Bible, which his position on several social issues might suggest   (townhall.com) divider line 250
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2012-05-17 09:22:14 AM
But don't you dare talk about Mitt's Mormonism. Both sides are the same!
 
2012-05-17 09:26:13 AM
Because everyone knows that the core of Jesus' message was about homosexuals and abortion and women and not helping the poor, the sick, the needy, and being good to one another.
 
2012-05-17 09:26:36 AM
Lst time I checked, most Christians in the GOP don't follow the bible either.
 
2012-05-17 09:26:53 AM
www.adoremusbooks.com
 
2012-05-17 09:28:23 AM

Aarontology: Because everyone knows that the core of Jesus' message was about homosexuals and abortion and women and not helping the poor, the sick, the needy, and being good to one another.


You forgot tax cuts for the wealthy. Jesus preached on helping those who can help themselves
 
2012-05-17 09:29:42 AM
Christian != People who agree with me
 
2012-05-17 09:32:25 AM

Aar1012: Lst time I checked, most Christians in the GOP don't follow the bible either.


yeah, that whole "adultery" thing really throws them for a loop.
 
2012-05-17 09:35:20 AM
Christians in America have a much lower opinion of the Bible. In fact, I'm willing to bet that you could take their Bibles, remove the insides and replace it with the 1978 Sears Catalog, and they'd never know the farking difference.
 
2012-05-17 09:37:22 AM
Well it's sure a good thing that Christian creds aren't a requirement for that office.

Or, is this douche suggesting the Bible is in contradiction to the Constitution? Because I have been informed otherwise.
 
2012-05-17 09:38:37 AM

Aar1012: You forgot tax cuts for the wealthy. Jesus preached on helping those who can help themselves


I think that's next to Jesus' Sermon on Deregulation
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-17 09:42:06 AM
Yes, the bible was all about hating people.
 
2012-05-17 09:45:47 AM

Aarontology: Aar1012: You forgot tax cuts for the wealthy. Jesus preached on helping those who can help themselves

I think that's next to Jesus' Sermon on Deregulation


The resurrection was Jesus's protest against the death tax.
 
2012-05-17 09:45:53 AM
Well, I guess it's a good thing he wasn't elected to be Pastor In Chief then.
 
2012-05-17 09:51:19 AM

Actual Farking: Aarontology: Aar1012: You forgot tax cuts for the wealthy. Jesus preached on helping those who can help themselves

I think that's next to Jesus' Sermon on Deregulation

The resurrection was Jesus's protest against the death tax.


He waited for three days in the cave to kill time while he waited for his handgun background check to clear, too.
 
2012-05-17 09:53:51 AM
I recently wrote that it is becoming increasingly difficult for people who believe the Bible is God's Word to impose their beliefs on those who disagree with them.

I can't tell if this person finds this to be problematic or not, but I find it to be a step in the right direction.
 
2012-05-17 09:54:11 AM

vpb: Yes, the bible was all about hating people.


Amazing how often people interpret the Good Samaritan incorrectly. He wasn't helping a Jew. He was taking him home to kill him and stash the body.
 
2012-05-17 09:58:04 AM
Jesus only had two rules for life: love God with your entire being, and love your neighbor with your entire being. Fark you if that second one is too damn difficult for you.
 
2012-05-17 09:59:12 AM

exick: I recently wrote that it is becoming increasingly difficult for people who believe the Bible is God's Word to impose their beliefs on those who disagree with them.

I can't tell if this person finds this to be problematic or not, but I find it to be a step in the right direction.


Man! Don't do that! I thought the author said that. Now I see it in the comments.

But boy would I love a real prominent conservative big whig to say it. Because I know many believe that's perfectly acceptable. Pat Buchanan comes sooo close. Moreso on race, but I can totally see this resonating with religious opinions.
 
2012-05-17 10:02:49 AM
Obama is not a practicing Christian. A Christian wouldn't have ordered the death of Bin Laden.

A Christian would have prayed for Bin Laden, not killed him.
 
2012-05-17 10:02:50 AM
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2012-05-17 10:03:47 AM
Such a backward headline, and unfortunate, Subby. Hard to tell? How do you know if he has a low view of the Bible? Just because he isn't some kind of fundy literal view of scripture, does that make his view of the Bible low? Do you know him personally? Have you spoken to him about it?

The Church I work for believes that the Word of God is contained in scriptures, but not all of scripture is necessarily the Word of God. My beliefs regarding social issues spring from my faith in an accepting, inclusive Jesus who is the closest a human can get to embodying God's love for the world. It's because I have such a high view of scripture that I believe and preach the way I do.

And, FTFA, I have to wonder where in the Gospels does it mention anything about same-sex romantic relationships? Who's quoting another Gospel now? Eh? I defy any Christian to prove to me that they are following every single prescription of scripture. Yet, so many chose to "follow" the passages that hurt rather than heal.

/Pro Equal Marriage
// Anti-death penalty
///Christian...I dare you to say otherwise. Although I wish I could use another term to describe my Jesus centered faith...too many "Christians" have farked up the label with their bigotry, stupidity, and selective love.
 
2012-05-17 10:31:18 AM
The fact of whatever the President or any President believes for his religious beliefs aren't my concern and shouldn't truly be anyone else's!
 
2012-05-17 10:37:09 AM
Our entire GOVERNMENT has a low opinion of the Bible. The good book endorses slavery again and again, and discusses how responsible slave owners should conduct themselves. Why do you ignore God's instructions, congress?

/Maybe because morality doesn't stem from superstition
//Yes, the biblical argument was used during the fight to abolish slavery in this country
 
2012-05-17 10:43:25 AM
This should be a good thread.
 
2012-05-17 10:43:49 AM
F*cking Constitution, how does it work?
 
2012-05-17 10:58:46 AM
HURRDUUURRRRRRSEKRETMOOOSLEMHURRDERPDERPDERP.
 
2012-05-17 10:59:49 AM
I belong to an electrical forum and regarding the code book one of the members has a rule that I think also applies to the bible. (Coincidentally the website is run by a "god-fearing family man"):

It doesn't say what you think it says, nor what you remember it to have said, nor what you were told that it says, and certainly not what you want it to say. And if by chance you are its author, it doesn't say what you intended it to say. Then what does it say? It says what it says. So if you want to know what it says, stop trying to remember what it says, and don't ask anyone else. Go back and read it, and pay attention as though you were reading it for the first time.
 
2012-05-17 11:00:42 AM
Practicing tends to imply that he's still developing his skills

/unlike evangelicals who have perfected being assholes
 
2012-05-17 11:02:55 AM

Diogenes: Man! Don't do that! I thought the author said that. Now I see it in the comments.

But boy would I love a real prominent conservative big whig to say it. Because I know many believe that's perfectly acceptable. Pat Buchanan comes sooo close. Moreso on race, but I can totally see this resonating with religious opinions.


I'm not sure what part you're talking about, but the author of the article most certainly did say this part: "I recently wrote that it is becoming increasingly difficult for people who believe the Bible is God's Word to impose their beliefs on those who disagree with them." I don't know what context he's saying he wrote that in, or whether he believes it's a good or bad thing, but he did say it.
 
2012-05-17 11:08:45 AM

antidisestablishmentarianism: This should be a good thread.


Can we combine it with the "Republican who misquotes the Bible" thread below? I just want to save some time.
 
2012-05-17 11:09:07 AM
Butthurt 2009:
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Butthurt 2013:
He's not my Reverend!
 
2012-05-17 11:11:36 AM

exick: Diogenes: Man! Don't do that! I thought the author said that. Now I see it in the comments.

But boy would I love a real prominent conservative big whig to say it. Because I know many believe that's perfectly acceptable. Pat Buchanan comes sooo close. Moreso on race, but I can totally see this resonating with religious opinions.

I'm not sure what part you're talking about, but the author of the article most certainly did say this part: "I recently wrote that it is becoming increasingly difficult for people who believe the Bible is God's Word to impose their beliefs on those who disagree with them." I don't know what context he's saying he wrote that in, or whether he believes it's a good or bad thing, but he did say it.


Holy fark. I did a search on page and that first hit was hidden under my task bar which isn't collapsing today for some stupid reason.

What a farking tool.
 
2012-05-17 11:25:07 AM
Remember the Golden Rule: Do unto others before they do unto you.
 
2012-05-17 11:33:04 AM
Cal Thomas is apparently of the opinion that Genesis and Ephesians 5 supersede what Jesus actually said in Mark 12:28-31.

The president seems to view things the other way. The monster, the monster.

What a horrible person, listening to that hippie Jesus guy.
 
2012-05-17 11:55:17 AM

Mentat: Remember the Golden Rule: Do unto others before they do unto you.


Golden Rule #2: He who has the gold makes the rules.
 
2012-05-17 12:01:43 PM
FTFA: "I recently wrote that it is becoming increasingly difficult for people who believe the Bible is God's Word to impose their beliefs on those who disagree with them."

Oh, Cal Thomas is a notorious asshole. You should see the venom he spews pretending to speak for God on the On Faith site, not to mention he pretends to be an authority on Islam, which would be funny if he wasn't so serious. Seriously, he's upset with Muslims only because he's sure they all want to do to the U.S. what he openly states he wants to do. And he sees nothing ironic or wrong with this kind of 'ethics.'
 
2012-05-17 12:35:31 PM
Unless somehow that same president understands the idea of separation of church and state and feels that Christianity (nor any other religion) should play a role in the laws of this country. Rather religion can be a set of guiding principles that he and others can choose to live their own lives by...
 
2012-05-17 12:36:38 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: But don't you dare talk about Mitt's Mormonism. Both sides are the same!


I noticed that too. They'll attack Obama's religion and but avoid discussing Mitt's. If the media were truly unbiased the scenario would be the polar opposite.
 
2012-05-17 12:37:26 PM
Ah quit whining about Obama and the Bible and go back to your bacon-wrapped shrimp.
 
2012-05-17 12:37:32 PM
The comment section of that article is just... something.
 
2012-05-17 12:37:45 PM

Aarontology: Because everyone knows that the core of Jesus' message was about homosexuals and abortion and women and not helping the poor, the sick, the needy, and being good to one another.


Done in two.
 
2012-05-17 12:38:08 PM
Last I checked "Love thy neighbor" was pretty high up there on the morality code Christains claim to follow. I've not seen a whole lot of evidence though.
 
2012-05-17 12:38:12 PM

Mentat: Remember the Golden Rule: Do unto others before they do unto you.


I thought the golden rule was "We got ours so pull up the rope!"
 
2012-05-17 12:38:21 PM
The Apostle John warns in Revelation 22:18-19 about the punishment awaiting anyone who adds to, or subtracts from Scripture. Deuteronomy 4:1-2 has a similar warning. The consequences aren't pretty. There are also warnings not to preach "another Gospel" (Galatians 1:8, 2 Corinthians 11:4, among others).

Which means you shouldn't be using these modern translations/reinterpretations of the original text, you hellbound demon!
 
2012-05-17 12:38:57 PM
So he's a practicing Christian? Did he just admit that he is an apostate Muslim?
 
2012-05-17 12:38:57 PM
WILL NOT CLICK ON TOWNHALL

The Tea Baggers are trying to get people to believe that Obama is "Waging a War on Religeon" and is being brainwashed by his radical kill whitey preacher.

Cognitive Dissonance much?
 
2012-05-17 12:39:05 PM
Does this mean Obama can walk onto the NYSE trading floor with a bullwhip and beat ass until he couldn't lift his arms? That would probably be worth a lot of votes.
 
2012-05-17 12:39:27 PM
Yay it's Trollweek on Fark!


not to be confused with Trollday, or Trollhour.
 
2012-05-17 12:40:01 PM

Vodka Zombie: Christians in America have a much lower opinion of the Bible. In fact, I'm willing to bet that you could take their Bibles, remove the insides and replace it with the 1978 Sears Catalog, and they'd never know the farking difference.


I'm sure someone would object to the child underwear models in it though.
 
2012-05-17 12:40:07 PM

TsarTom: [www.adoremusbooks.com image 249x320]


When I was a kid, I used to have almost the entire collection of these.

Anyway, Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh both go on and on about how Christian they are, but they've also said that they NEVER go to church.
 
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