If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Short List) Video First clip from the set of the US Sherlock. Looks appalling. Guess subby's nationality   (shortlist.com) divider line 111
    More: Video, Lucy Liu, Benedict Cumberbatch, Jonny Lee Miller  
•       •       •

6168 clicks; posted to Video » on 17 May 2012 at 9:37 AM (2 years ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



111 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread
 
2012-05-17 09:37:39 AM
Subby's an African pygmy.
 
2012-05-17 09:39:56 AM
Croatian?
 
2012-05-17 09:41:23 AM
It's unfortunate that this will be coming out on the heels of two great seasons of 'Sherlock'. It will, inevitably suffer by comparison but will probably be a hit because it is on CBS. That means it will be boring and formulaic to the point you could rename it "CSI IV: You get what you ask for folks"
 
2012-05-17 09:43:51 AM
If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no. There are old ones to rewatch on Netflix with Brett and new ones (finally!) with Cumberbatch to watch. The books are always worth a reread and great in the audio format with the right narrator. There are myriad reasons and ways to lose yourself in Sherlock Holmes. This show is not one of them. I'll pass.

/subby = Moldavian
 
2012-05-17 09:43:55 AM
Tibetian?
 
2012-05-17 09:47:19 AM
Dalmatian?

/yeesh, that does look pretty bad.
 
2012-05-17 09:47:42 AM
We still get two more episodes on PBS, right?
 
2012-05-17 09:48:05 AM
Sherlock has tattoos now?

Damnit America, this is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-05-17 09:49:22 AM

bluenote13: It's unfortunate that this will be coming out on the heels of two great seasons of 'Sherlock'. It will, inevitably suffer by comparison but will probably be a hit because it is on CBS. That means it will be boring and formulaic to the point you could rename it "CSI IV: You get what you ask for folks"


I'd say more like one damn-near-perfect season, a good episode and an abortion.

I loved the way season 2 started, but I honestly fell asleep near the end of the Hounds episode. I woke up just as whats-his-face was standing in his cell or whatever. I figured I'd missed something, but my fiance said, "No, it just didn't make any sense"
 
2012-05-17 10:00:48 AM

rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.


If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!
 
2012-05-17 10:02:40 AM
At least Holmes is still British, also Lucy Liu, just sayin'
 
2012-05-17 10:07:58 AM
Blarg. That's all I have to say.
 
2012-05-17 10:10:38 AM
I just threw up in my pants a little bit. This looks dreadful!
 
2012-05-17 10:15:38 AM

IlGreven: rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.

If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!


It's not Basil that drives me away from his Holmes, it's the wide varying from original source and even worse the making of Dr. Watson into a bumbling farking idiot. One of the things I most enjoy about the books is Watson. He is a very intelligent, educated and travelled man. He is not to be a dumski to be compared to Holmes to show how smart Holmes is, he is meant to be above average and still look far below mediocre in comparison. Both Brett and Cumberbatch benefit from solid Watsons. I would bet Rathbone reading it would be great listening if it followed original Holmes stories, or at least stayed in the world of Holmes.

And on that note I will prepare some reports listening to some solid gold. A Scandal in Bohemia(pops)
 
2012-05-17 10:17:07 AM
"It. would appear. Dear Watson. that this. is complete and utter... BULLSHAIT - MISSES HUDSON WOULD YOU PLEASSSSEEE!"
www.oliviawaite.com
 
2012-05-17 10:18:14 AM

IlGreven: rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.

If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!


www.wearysloth.com

Would like a word.

Bret is the best, no question, but I would really love to see Cumberbatch
tackle a straight adaptation of a Holmes story.

I would like to see this.... show.... just disappear.
 
2012-05-17 10:19:07 AM
Project Gutenberg has the Holmes collection. Just download it and enjoy.
 
2012-05-17 10:22:14 AM

rudemix: IlGreven: rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.

If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!

It's not Basil that drives me away from his Holmes, it's the wide varying from original source and even worse the making of Dr. Watson into a bumbling farking idiot. One of the things I most enjoy about the books is Watson. He is a very intelligent, educated and travelled man. He is not to be a dumski to be compared to Holmes to show how smart Holmes is, he is meant to be above average and still look far below mediocre in comparison. Both Brett and Cumberbatch benefit from solid Watsons. I would bet Rathbone reading it would be great listening if it followed original Holmes stories, or at least stayed in the world of Holmes.

And on that note I will prepare some reports listening to some solid gold. A Scandal in Bohemia(pops)


The saddest thing about Lionel Bruce was that he would have made a damn
fine 'straight' Watson; the Rathbone HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES was
the first of their films together, and was a fairly faithful (for the time) adaptation
of the story and Watson comes off rather well (not surprising given that he was
front and center throughout a good portion of the original novel).
 
2012-05-17 10:25:25 AM
Let's see, cast Lucy Liu in the role of Watson, air it on CBS, they'll be lovers or have a sexual tension by the end of season 1. Once you take away the platonic relationship Holmes and Watson simply don't work.
 
2012-05-17 10:26:57 AM
They smirk at your failing criticisms.

/don't bother...there is one laugh in the entire movie...sniper...window...
 
2012-05-17 10:27:45 AM
I've hit my limit for anti-social protagonists.
 
2012-05-17 10:29:25 AM
3.bp.blogspot.com

Dammit.
 
2012-05-17 10:31:28 AM
I don't get the apparent appeal of Lucy Liu. To me, she comes across as expressionless; completely without animation, but almost life-like.
 
2012-05-17 10:33:41 AM
blog.joerenken.com
 
2012-05-17 10:36:06 AM

KatjaMouse: Let's see, cast Lucy Liu in the role of Watson, air it on CBS, they'll be lovers or have a sexual tension by the end of season 1. Once you take away the platonic relationship Holmes and Watson simply don't work.


i.telegraph.co.uk

I appreciate the sentiment, but you're wrong.

/Why do they keep calling me "Bachelor?"
 
2012-05-17 10:52:26 AM
This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...
 
2012-05-17 10:52:47 AM

rudemix: The books are always worth a reread and great in the audio format with the right narrator.


CLIVE MERRISON FTW!!!!!

\Not a narration, but a Licensed BBC audio drama of every offical Holmes story written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
\\Almost prefer it to Brett & Cumberbatch
\\\ALMOST
\\\\Shame about Johnny Lee Miller. Guy can't catch a break on US TV.
\\Would like to see the adaptation of Frankenstein that he and Cumberbatch did on stage a few months ago...
 
2012-05-17 10:57:49 AM
Icetech3:

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

Benedict Cumsinersnatch


P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...

OHHHHHHH JEFFFREY!

\Apparently.
\\Happy Trotty Elf
\\\Sofa Parasites.
\\\\Have the keys to paradise.
\\Have too many legs...
 
2012-05-17 10:59:03 AM
Oh really? Another Sherlock reboot? Just as I hypothesized...
cache.gawkerassets.com
/with uncanny timing, drives away in beater Saab
 
2012-05-17 11:05:01 AM

edip1976: Icetech3:

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

Benedict Cumsinersnatch


P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...

OHHHHHHH JEFFFREY!

\Apparently.
\\Happy Trotty Elf
\\\Sofa Parasites.
\\\\Have the keys to paradise.
\\Have too many legs...


I loved Jeffrey. A wonderful well-rounded gentle pervert of a character.
 
2012-05-17 11:11:08 AM

CalvinMorallis: bluenote13: It's unfortunate that this will be coming out on the heels of two great seasons of 'Sherlock'. It will, inevitably suffer by comparison but will probably be a hit because it is on CBS. That means it will be boring and formulaic to the point you could rename it "CSI IV: You get what you ask for folks"

I'd say more like one damn-near-perfect season, a good episode and an abortion.

I loved the way season 2 started, but I honestly fell asleep near the end of the Hounds episode. I woke up just as whats-his-face was standing in his cell or whatever. I figured I'd missed something, but my fiance said, "No, it just didn't make any sense"


Matter of opinion. I thought the Hounds episode was a nice little stand alone episode, other than the random ending with Moriarity. I really wish they would make 5-6 episodes per season. Three is not enough to build up the 'arcs' they want to do so the ending was tacked on as 'crap we have to remind people who the real bad guy is before the last episode of the season next week'. I have already seen the finale and it is very very good.
 
2012-05-17 11:11:53 AM

Icetech3:

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...


This. It shows how a tv series can have a defined beginning, middle, and end, and leave before it gets stale and stupid. Most American shows, especially sit-coms, could learn from this. My wife loved the first few seasons of TBBT, but said it became aimless and stupid the longer it went on. She pointed out that if they had followed the Coupling model, you would have gotten 4-5 really funny seasons of Leonard and Penny meeting, dating, getting married, and having a kid, with his cast of friends (particularly Sheldon) trying to learn to deal with it.

And I'm American and think this version of Sherlock Holmes looks terrible.
 
2012-05-17 11:12:45 AM
What I saw was Holmes being skittish, stereotypically autistic (rather than artfully subtle), and every indicator the writers are adding a lame extra storyline element to Watson of being "a strong and empowered woman" to hook chick viewers.

I'll pass.
 
2012-05-17 11:16:22 AM

fickenchucker: What I saw was Holmes being skittish, stereotypically autistic (rather than artfully subtle), and every indicator the writers are adding a lame extra storyline element to Watson of being "a strong and empowered woman" to hook chick viewers.

I'll pass.


I'm pretty sure the British reboot of Holmes that this is based on features a stereotypically autistic holmes as well.

Though Watson is played by a dude rather than Lucy Liu. It's America, we need tits to look at or we'll lose interest real fast.
 
2012-05-17 11:17:56 AM

edip1976: \\Would like to see the adaptation of Frankenstein that he and Cumberbatch did on stage a few months ago...


You should see Mel Brooks' take on Frankenstein.

/that's 'fronk-en-steen'
 
2012-05-17 11:22:18 AM

DjangoStonereaver:
Bret is the best, no question, but I would really love to see Cumberbatch
tackle a straight adaptation of a Holmes story.


If there was a one-off straight adaptation of a Holmes story, I wouldn't mind seeing Hugh Laurie take a shot at it. He's basically been playing the character already, just in a different environment.
 
2012-05-17 11:24:01 AM
To be honest, I can't wait for it. I hope CBS keeps up the trend they started with Person of Interest with complex plotlines, gray characters and brutality. (Best fight scenes on TV at the moment.) I like that Sherlock is a recovering addict. Yes, I know House did it. But I want to see how this version does it. Though the way Holmes moved and acted in the clip, I bet the pilot will end revealing he is still on something.

Don't get me wrong, I love the new BBC version of Sherlock as well. In fact, I love just about every incarnation of Sherlock. He and Watson are two of my favorite pop culture characters.

What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)
 
2012-05-17 11:25:27 AM
"Sometimes I hate it when I'm right."

Really? Jeez, they haven't even aired the first episode and they've already farked up the character.
 
2012-05-17 11:41:44 AM

mekki: What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)


(Django raises his hand)

But, I am rather clueless in general, and was distracted by a nekkid Irene
Adler.
 
2012-05-17 11:44:22 AM

Old enough to know better: "Sometimes I hate it when I'm right."

Really? Jeez, they haven't even aired the first episode and they've already farked up the character.


Yeah. That sucked.
 
2012-05-17 12:02:18 PM
mekki: To be honest, I can't wait for it. I hope CBS keeps up the trend they started with Person of Interest with complex plotlines, gray characters and brutality. (Best fight scenes on TV at the moment.) I like that Sherlock is a recovering addict. Yes, I know House did it. But I want to see how this version does it. Though the way Holmes moved and acted in the clip, I bet the pilot will end revealing he is still on something.

Don't get me wrong, I love the new BBC version of Sherlock as well. In fact, I love just about every incarnation of Sherlock. He and Watson are two of my favorite pop culture characters.

What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)


*raises hand*.

And I would hazard a guess that you're in the minority on having figured it out before the big reveal. Besides, one of the main goals of Adler's "game" was to distract Sherlock enough to prevent him from guessing the password, which she did exceedingly well. As Mycroft said of Adler's game, "it was textbook."
 
2012-05-17 12:07:22 PM

Icetech3: This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...


I dare you to try to watch the U.S. version of Spaced. It's beyond awful.
 
2012-05-17 12:07:31 PM
Too easy, Subby. You should have avoided the word "appalling," or at least misspelled it.
 
2012-05-17 12:15:39 PM

Mr. Cat Poop: I dare you to try to watch the U.S. version of Spaced. It's beyond awful.


... there's a U.S. version of Spaced?
 
2012-05-17 12:31:56 PM
yes yes there is and it is
Really Bloody Terrible
 
2012-05-17 12:32:50 PM

KatjaMouse: Let's see, cast Lucy Liu in the role of Watson, air it on CBS, they'll be lovers or have a sexual tension by the end of season 1.


The focus group demands it.
 
2012-05-17 12:34:50 PM

DjangoStonereaver: mekki: What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)

(Django raises his hand)

But, I am rather clueless in general, and was distracted by a nekkid Irene
Adler.


Was the scene they showed on PBS the same they aired on the Beeb? I was expecting more (couldn't be much less) considering the stink it caused over there.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-17 12:34:53 PM

Bloody William: Mr. Cat Poop: I dare you to try to watch the U.S. version of Spaced. It's beyond awful.

... there's a U.S. version of Spaced?


Yes

Mercifully, it didn't make it past the pilot stage.
 
2012-05-17 12:38:29 PM

Wellon Dowd: DjangoStonereaver: mekki: What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)

(Django raises his hand)

But, I am rather clueless in general, and was distracted by a nekkid Irene
Adler.

Was the scene they showed on PBS the same they aired on the Beeb? I was expecting more (couldn't be much less) considering the stink it caused over there.

[i.imgur.com image 640x360]


Pretty much, though I think there may have been some minor digitization of
fleeting underboob in a couple of scenes.
 
2012-05-17 12:43:32 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Bloody William: Mr. Cat Poop: I dare you to try to watch the U.S. version of Spaced. It's beyond awful.

... there's a U.S. version of Spaced?

Yes

Mercifully, it didn't make it past the pilot stage.


I'm not even going to watch that. I really enjoyed Spaced.
 
2012-05-17 12:52:02 PM
Take something British that is awesome.
Bring it to the US.
Get it all wrong.
Profit!

He'll be banging "Watson" by the third season and she will have the Holmes baby when they've jumped the shark in Season 4. The past-the-shark wedding will be in Season 5.
 
2012-05-17 12:56:37 PM

Contents Under Pressure: Take something British that is awesome.
Bring it to the US.
Get it all wrong.
Profit!

He'll be banging "Watson" by the third season episode and she will have the Holmes baby when they've jumped the shark in Season 2. The past-the-shark wedding will be in Season 3.



FTFY
 
2012-05-17 01:06:33 PM
a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com

Release the Fish!
 
2012-05-17 01:16:06 PM
Haha, typical to American television - not only will we destroy a franchise, but we can't have both main actors be male because it might upset someone.
 
2012-05-17 01:23:46 PM
I'm rewatching the Jeremy Brett series on Netflix. Just got done rewatching all 6 Sherlock episodes. I wouldn't watch the CBS bastardization if you paid me.

...maybe if you paid me, but it would have to be at least $20 for a full episode.
 
2012-05-17 01:24:20 PM
What kind of cut is it

i.imgur.com

When the picture fades to black

i.imgur.com

and then fades into

i.imgur.com

the new scene?

i.imgur.com

Because I hate that cut

i.imgur.com

It is so annoying,

i.imgur.com

And when it is repeated

i.imgur.com

Too often, like in this trailer

i.imgur.com

It makes me want to shoot the director's

i.imgur.com

children
 
2012-05-17 01:27:00 PM
Don't forget the American pilot of Red Dwarf where they made Cat a woman....

Oh yeah, and the insanely shiatty American version of Doctor Who.
 
2012-05-17 01:28:36 PM

Devilmouse: yes yes there is and it is
Really Bloody Terrible


Jesus. I survived 15 seconds. On the bright side, at least nobody tried to remake "Red Dwarf".

/Yes I know
 
2012-05-17 01:31:53 PM
I got this...

img845.imageshack.us
 
2012-05-17 01:32:42 PM
Irish?
 
2012-05-17 01:33:04 PM

Apos: Contents Under Pressure: Take something British that is awesome.
Bring it to the US.
Get it all wrong.
Profit!

He'll be banging "Watson" by the third season episode and she will have the Holmes baby when they've jumped the shark in Season 2. The past-the-shark wedding will be in Season 3.

FTFY


Watson will be having a lesbian affair with Mrs Hudson by episode 6.
 
2012-05-17 01:39:10 PM

browneye: mekki: To be honest, I can't wait for it. I hope CBS keeps up the trend they started with Person of Interest with complex plotlines, gray characters and brutality. (Best fight scenes on TV at the moment.) I like that Sherlock is a recovering addict. Yes, I know House did it. But I want to see how this version does it. Though the way Holmes moved and acted in the clip, I bet the pilot will end revealing he is still on something.

Don't get me wrong, I love the new BBC version of Sherlock as well. In fact, I love just about every incarnation of Sherlock. He and Watson are two of my favorite pop culture characters.

What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)

*raises hand*.

And I would hazard a guess that you're in the minority on having figured it out before the big reveal.



I dunno, Mrs Old Man figured it out almost immediately, but she wasn't distracted by Irene Adler NSFW.


Besides, one of the main goals of Adler's "game" was to distract Sherlock enough to prevent him from guessing the password, which she did exceedingly well. As Mycroft said of Adler's game, "it was textbook."

What makes "Sherlock" excellent for me is the cast - Mycroft, for example, and the inspired choice of Martin Freeman as Watson. His light touch keeps things from getting bogged down and his comedy timing works on the running gag of them being a gay couple.

I'm not all that wild about Andrew Scott as Moriarty, but he doesn't annoy me. I thought the guy who played the taxi driver in the pilot was a lot creepier.
 
2012-05-17 01:44:16 PM

Angry Buddha: I got this...

[img845.imageshack.us image 640x640]



Will ya look at those shapely stems. Mmmm,mmmm,mmmm.
 
2012-05-17 01:51:40 PM

OldManDownDRoad: browneye: mekki: To be honest, I can't wait for it. I hope CBS keeps up the trend they started with Person of Interest with complex plotlines, gray characters and brutality. (Best fight scenes on TV at the moment.) I like that Sherlock is a recovering addict. Yes, I know House did it. But I want to see how this version does it. Though the way Holmes moved and acted in the clip, I bet the pilot will end revealing he is still on something.

Don't get me wrong, I love the new BBC version of Sherlock as well. In fact, I love just about every incarnation of Sherlock. He and Watson are two of my favorite pop culture characters.

What I hope for this new series is that the mysteries will be better than Sherlock. To me, that is the weakest thing about the BBC series. Love the characters and the dialog but I can guess the plotline within the first ten minutes. Which takes away the fact that Sherlock is supposed to be a genius. (Really, it never occurs to him that the password to the phone is "Sher" as is "Sherlocked" until the last act? Who didn't guess that the first time they saw the phone?)

*raises hand*.

And I would hazard a guess that you're in the minority on having figured it out before the big reveal.


I dunno, Mrs Old Man figured it out almost immediately, but she wasn't distracted by Irene Adler NSFW.


Besides, one of the main goals of Adler's "game" was to distract Sherlock enough to prevent him from guessing the password, which she did exceedingly well. As Mycroft said of Adler's game, "it was textbook."

What makes "Sherlock" excellent for me is the cast - Mycroft, for example, and the inspired choice of Martin Freeman as Watson. His light touch keeps things from getting bogged down and his comedy timing works on the running gag of them being a gay couple.

I'm not all that wild about Andrew Scott as Moriarty, but he doesn't annoy me. I thought the guy who played the taxi driver in the pilot was a lot creepier.


Martin Freeman was awesome in Hot Fuzz.. Even if he was only on screen for a whopping 30 seconds.
 
2012-05-17 01:54:49 PM
This looks awesome.

I'm a huge fan of all things Sherlock, so this is just another quality adaptation of the original source material as far as I'm concerned.

As long as they do their own thing and don't just copy the British series scene-by-scene, I know I'll enjoy it. I'm already intrigued by the possibilities of Lucy Liu as Watson, and by the New York setting.
 
2012-05-17 01:58:49 PM

Jonny Ninja: Apos: Contents Under Pressure: Take something British that is awesome.
Bring it to the US.
Get it all wrong.
Profit!

He'll be banging "Watson" by the third season episode and she will have the Holmes baby when they've jumped the shark in Season 2. The past-the-shark wedding will be in Season 3.

FTFY

Watson will be having a lesbian affair with Mrs Hudson by episode 6.


Hey now,this is CBS,not FOX: "Edgy" isn't their style.
 
2012-05-17 01:59:00 PM

Apos: Angry Buddha: I got this...

[img845.imageshack.us image 640x640]


Will ya look at those shapely stems. Mmmm,mmmm,mmmm.


she's so hot that I must fap with my non-dominant hand as not to burst into flames.
 
2012-05-17 02:10:50 PM

Icetech3: This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...


Notable exception: Shameless, the US version is infinitely better than the Brit version.
 
2012-05-17 02:16:24 PM
Icetech3: This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...

zunkus: Notable exception: Shameless, the US version is infinitely better than the Brit version.


Also prefer the American version of Being Human to the UK version.
 
2012-05-17 02:21:41 PM

zunkus: Icetech3: This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...

Notable exception: Shameless, the US version is infinitely better than the Brit version.


I tried watching an episode of the UK Shameless. I couldn't understand a damn word half the characters were saying.
 
2012-05-17 02:26:59 PM
No shiat.
 
2012-05-17 02:36:17 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

Dammit.



Good Lord.
 
2012-05-17 02:41:17 PM
The only way this could possibly work is if there is a Mulder and Scully type relationship between Sherlock and Holmes. The tension is subtle, and the characters never act on it. This is CBS though so I'm sure they will be banging each other by the end of season 1.
 
2012-05-17 02:41:27 PM

johnny queso: No shiat.


I believe the expression is No sheet, Sherlock.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-17 03:02:36 PM
Season 2 is on Netflix? I might have to restart my subscription, unless it's on Hulu also
 
2012-05-17 03:33:10 PM

Sass-O-Rev: I don't get the apparent appeal of Lucy Liu. To me, she comes across as expressionless; completely without animation, but almost life-like.


You make her sound almost androidish, like she may be some sort of artificial intelligence. A Lucy Liu-bot one could say.
 
2012-05-17 03:34:53 PM

Max Awesome: This looks awesome.

I'm a huge fan of all things Sherlock, so this is just another quality adaptation of the original source material as far as I'm concerned.

As long as they do their own thing and don't just copy the British series scene-by-scene, I know I'll enjoy it. I'm already intrigued by the possibilities of Lucy Liu as Watson, and by the New York setting.


Looks like someone at CBS has a Fark account.
 
2012-05-17 03:42:15 PM
I bet Lucy Liu has fantastic depth perception.
 
2012-05-17 03:43:48 PM
blogimages.project76.tv

Anyway, I'll give it a shot. It actually doesn't look too terrible to me. As others noted earlier, some episodes of 'Sherlock' misfired (looking at you, 'Hound'), and I'm not really a fan of what they did with Moriarty. I actually MUCH preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the RDJ film - the cold, calculating, professorial Moriarty.

The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker. Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc. In fact, the resolution was the same, too - Sherlock had to trash his public image and 'die', just as Batman took the heat for offing Harvey Dent...

Only The Dark Knight did it better.
 
2012-05-17 03:45:57 PM

Suede head: I bet Lucy Liu has fantastic depth perception.




iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
 
2012-05-17 04:07:37 PM

Samwise Gamgee: I actually MUCH preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the RDJ film - the cold, calculating, professorial Moriarty.


Same here. That guy nailed it in my opinion.
 
2012-05-17 04:30:48 PM
I love Benedict Cumberbatch. Also, the internets have taught me he looks like an otter:

www.dangerousminds.net

/might be old news
//but it's so damn cute
 
2012-05-17 04:52:08 PM

DjangoStonereaver: minor digitization of fleeting underboob


What a wonderful Fark handle this would make.
 
2012-05-17 04:53:39 PM

Welfare Peanut Butter: I love Benedict Cumberbatch. Also, the internets have taught me he looks like an otter:

[www.dangerousminds.net image 465x919]

/might be old news
//but it's so damn cute


akcdn.okccdn.com
 
2012-05-17 05:10:02 PM
"Elementary" will be lucky to make it to the end of season 1
 
2012-05-17 05:25:02 PM

Znuh: Don't forget the American pilot of Red Dwarf where they made Cat a woman....

Oh yeah, and the insanely shiatty American version of Doctor Who.


You, I like.

/came in here half-hoping for shots from "1994 Baker Street"
//I feel like I might be the only person who remember them both
 
2012-05-17 05:25:18 PM

Bloody William: KatjaMouse: Let's see, cast Lucy Liu in the role of Watson, air it on CBS, they'll be lovers or have a sexual tension by the end of season 1. Once you take away the platonic relationship Holmes and Watson simply don't work.

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 620x388]

I appreciate the sentiment, but you're wrong.

/Why do they keep calling me "Bachelor?"


The updated "Sherlock" (airs on PBS "Mystery" in the States) is flat out my favorite series on TV in a long time. Cumberbatch nails the perfect blend of narcissism and genius. If you haven't seen it yet do yourself a favor.
 
2012-05-17 05:27:37 PM

Max Awesome: This looks awesome.

I'm a huge fan of all things Sherlock, so this is just another quality adaptation of the original source material as far as I'm concerned.

As long as they do their own thing and don't just copy the British series scene-by-scene, I know I'll enjoy it. I'm already intrigued by the possibilities of Lucy Liu as Watson, and by the New York setting.


Did you need to go to a seminar to become this optimistic? Or was it an audiobook?

/sorry, I actually envy your hope about this
 
2012-05-17 05:30:27 PM

bulok: Season 2 is on Netflix? I might have to restart my subscription, unless it's on Hulu also


It's on PBS.org for free, just look up the 'Masterpiece' video section, although the last episode won't be airing until Sunday night, so you'll have to wait for that one.

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-17 05:34:00 PM

Welfare Peanut Butter: I love Benedict Cumberbatch. Also, the internets have taught me he looks like an otter:

[www.dangerousminds.net image 465x919]

/might be old news
//but it's so damn cute


and Martin Freeman looks like a hedgehog.

chzfandom.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-05-17 05:35:01 PM
*shakes tiny fist* dammit!
 
2012-05-17 05:43:05 PM

Samwise Gamgee: [blogimages.project76.tv image 362x204]

Anyway, I'll give it a shot. It actually doesn't look too terrible to me. As others noted earlier, some episodes of 'Sherlock' misfired (looking at you, 'Hound'), and I'm not really a fan of what they did with Moriarty. I actually MUCH preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the RDJ film - the cold, calculating, professorial Moriarty.

The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker. Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc. In fact, the resolution was the same, too - Sherlock had to trash his public image and 'die', just as Batman took the heat for offing Harvey Dent...

Only The Dark Knight did it better.


What the fark am I reading?

** SPOILERS FOR SHERLOCK (BBC) **

How was Moriarty an anarchist? As he explains in the show, being a villain is much more lucrative than being on the same side as the government. The only person or government that he tries to topple without a cash incentive in mind is Sherlock. As for the ending, Sherlock never trashed his own public image as that was sufficiently done by Moriarty. Sherlock simply went along with the lie in front of Watson and faked his own death because that was required for the gunmen not to blast his few friends. To review, Batman fabricated a story where he took killed Dent and Dent's victims in order to preserve a symbol of hope for the city, while Sherlock completed the last step of Moriarty's plan by "offing" himself in order to save 3 of his 4 friends. Very different endings unless you go by the simplest explanations.

** END OF SPOILERS FOR SHERLOCK (BBC) **

/Won't even get into using the Dark Knight's Joker as a baseline
//Dark Knight's Joker was a "light" version of many other iterations of the Joker
///"No charge"
 
2012-05-17 05:51:25 PM

K.B.O. Winston: Max Awesome: This looks awesome.

I'm a huge fan of all things Sherlock, so this is just another quality adaptation of the original source material as far as I'm concerned.

As long as they do their own thing and don't just copy the British series scene-by-scene, I know I'll enjoy it. I'm already intrigued by the possibilities of Lucy Liu as Watson, and by the New York setting.

Did you need to go to a seminar to become this optimistic? Or was it an audiobook?


I don't know... maybe I don't spend enough time on the internet to get all jaded?

Actually, that's not true - I spend way too much time online. I've just never seen a Sherlock adaptation that I didn't like. I actually just got all caught up on the latest BBC version with Cumberbatch & Freeman in the past month by watching them through iTunes, and I adored it, so maybe I'm still flying high on my enthusiasm for a new favourite series.

But I've also just discovered the American version of Shameless, and its another fantastic show I've called in love with, and it wasn't screwed up at all according to many who saw the original British version, so there's hope for American adaptations.

Plus, I'm a fan of the lead actors in this new American Sherlock, so that helps. Plus New York is such a beautiful city and I never get to see in any of the shows I currently follow.

But then I suppose it's possible I'm a bit of a dullard and just have really low standards. Who can say?
 
2012-05-17 06:25:45 PM

Doogled: Samwise Gamgee: [blogimages.project76.tv image 362x204]
How was Moriarty an anarchist? As he explains in the show, being a villain is much more lucrative than being on the same side as the government. The only person or government that he tries to topple without a cash incentive in mind is Sherlock.


Anarchist may be the wrong word. An 'agent of chaos' might be a better descriptor. He's doing crime for crime's sake. Remember the first episode? He's paying a cabbie to kill completely random people, just to toy with Sherlock (there was no financial motivation). I don't think this iteration of Moriarty is doing anything for the money - he's just a madman getting his kicks. He also is obsessed with Sherlock, in the same way the Joker was with Batman in TDK - at first he wanted to kill Bats, then he went all 'you complete me' on him.

As for the ending, Sherlock never trashed his own public image as that was sufficiently done by Moriarty. Sherlock simply went along with the lie in front of Watson and faked his own death because that was required for the gunmen not to blast his few friends. To review, Batman fabricated a story where he took killed Dent and Dent's victims in order to preserve a symbol of hope for the city, while Sherlock completed the last step of Moriarty's plan by "offing" himself in order to save 3 of his 4 friends. Very different endings unless you go by the simplest explanations.

He also 'confessed' to Watson on the phone that he was a fraud (he really didn't have to do that - all he had to do was fake the death). Anyway, details differ, but I find them to be thematic parallels. The sacrificial hero is a timeless classic, of course, but the sacrifice of one's reputation is pretty specific to both those stories, especially when the villains are so thematically similar as well.

/Won't even get into using the Dark Knight's Joker as a baseline
//Dark Knight's Joker was a "light" version of many other iterations of the Joker


Yeah, but TDK is the movie that had the hero pose as a villain for the greater good at the end, which is why it drew the comparison.
 
2012-05-17 06:34:57 PM

Icetech3: This show makes me yet even sadder for my country.. top gear US... eck.. coupling US OMFG WHY... everything we touch we destroy. Even when the US wanted to do a Fawlty Towers US, they wanted to remove basil fawlty!

P.S. Cumberbatch would be a great porn name:)

P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...


I second that. Great writing, great characters and some fantastic episode structures. Like a whole episode in split screen, or an episode that shows the same ten minutes three times. Or an episode that consists of a single phone call.
Or Jeff in a gimp mask.

Plus of course, the man who wrote Coupling, Steven Moffat, is behind Sherlock. And Doctor Who.
 
2012-05-17 06:39:50 PM

TheShavingofOccam123: P.P.S. if you have never seen Coupling (the UK one) It easily has the best writing of any sitcom i have seen...

OHHHHHHH JEFFFREY!

\Apparently.
\\Happy Trotty Elf
\\\Sofa Parasites.
\\\\Have the keys to paradise.
\\Have too many legs...

I loved Jeffrey. A wonderful well-rounded gentle pervert of a character.


That reminds me, I thill need to pick a porn buddy.
 
2012-05-17 08:27:07 PM
I would watch it if Watson was a dude instead of Lucy Liu. I have always seen Dr. Watson as being a better comedy relief character, than sex symbol. I do like a post-rehab Holmes since it was depressing to read descriptions of his opium addiction.
 
2012-05-17 09:45:11 PM
In the clip he says a safe room can make the floor slope "between one and five degrees". A five degree slope in the floor of a bedroom would be huge, no way anyone would miss that. If the room was ten feet wide one end would be a whole foot lower.
 
2012-05-17 11:24:30 PM
CBS? Can you still get that with an antenna?
 
2012-05-18 01:34:24 AM
What's the point of watching the CBS show? I've already seen it on BBC.

I am curious. Has there been any shows that could be considered "good" on ABC, CBS or NBC in the last ten years?
 
2012-05-18 02:37:54 AM

DjangoStonereaver: rudemix: IlGreven: rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.

If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!

It's not Basil that drives me away from his Holmes, it's the wide varying from original source and even worse the making of Dr. Watson into a bumbling farking idiot. One of the things I most enjoy about the books is Watson. He is a very intelligent, educated and travelled man. He is not to be a dumski to be compared to Holmes to show how smart Holmes is, he is meant to be above average and still look far below mediocre in comparison. Both Brett and Cumberbatch benefit from solid Watsons. I would bet Rathbone reading it would be great listening if it followed original Holmes stories, or at least stayed in the world of Holmes.

And on that note I will prepare some reports listening to some solid gold. A Scandal in Bohemia(pops)

The saddest thing about Lionel Bruce was that he would have made a damn
fine 'straight' Watson; the Rathbone HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES was
the first of their films together, and was a fairly faithful (for the time) adaptation
of the story and Watson comes off rather well (not surprising given that he was
front and center throughout a good portion of the original novel).


That's Nigel Bruce.
 
2012-05-18 02:58:59 AM

B.L.Z. Bub: DjangoStonereaver: rudemix: IlGreven: rudemix: If not Jeremey Brett, then Benedict Cumberbatch. If not either, then no.

If it's not Basil Rathbone, it's CRAP!

It's not Basil that drives me away from his Holmes, it's the wide varying from original source and even worse the making of Dr. Watson into a bumbling farking idiot. One of the things I most enjoy about the books is Watson. He is a very intelligent, educated and travelled man. He is not to be a dumski to be compared to Holmes to show how smart Holmes is, he is meant to be above average and still look far below mediocre in comparison. Both Brett and Cumberbatch benefit from solid Watsons. I would bet Rathbone reading it would be great listening if it followed original Holmes stories, or at least stayed in the world of Holmes.

And on that note I will prepare some reports listening to some solid gold. A Scandal in Bohemia(pops)

The saddest thing about Lionel Bruce was that he would have made a damn
fine 'straight' Watson; the Rathbone HOUND OF THE BASKERVILLES was
the first of their films together, and was a fairly faithful (for the time) adaptation
of the story and Watson comes off rather well (not surprising given that he was
front and center throughout a good portion of the original novel).

That's Nigel Bruce.


IOU an opening for you to give me one NCIS-style headslap if we ever meet in person.

But, you obviously got the idea.
 
2012-05-18 04:32:13 AM

Max Awesome: As long as they do their own thing and don't just copy the British series scene-by-scene, I know I'll enjoy it. I'm already intrigued by the possibilities of Lucy Liu as Watson, and by the New York setting.


They can't, because they will have the everloving shiat sued out of them.

They couldn't claim innocence because they actually approached the British lot and ask to use their scripts to make the American version. They were told to get lost. When Sue Virtue talked about it on the PBS live thingy, I got the feeling they had trouble being polite to CBS.

So if the plots of Elementary even vaguely resemble Sherlock there will be lawsuits a-flying.
 
2012-05-18 04:40:12 AM

Samwise Gamgee: The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker. Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc. In fact, the resolution was the same, too - Sherlock had to trash his public image and 'die', just as Batman took the heat for offing Harvey Dent...


Er, no.

I get most people are not actual Sherlock freaks and so haven't seen any makings or interviews or anything, but Moffat explained that the original Sherlock Holmes Moriarty was THE archetype for every Big Bad since. He was the first mob boss, intelligent and dark evil mastermind character. Every single Big Bad since him has been built on him. So they didn't want to do that again because it's old, it's tired, and people would think it was lame and stereotypical.

Quoth the Moffat "With Moriarty, Doyle does such a brilliant job of writing a mafia don before they were invented. Every other supervillain ever since sounds like Moriarty. Goldfinger sounds exactly like Moriarty. He invented the supervillain. If you do him like that now, he sounds like the biggest cliche on earth. So we did a quite different kind of Moriarty, one that would be more alarming, I suppose, to Sherlock. He's super-clever. But then I don't think super-clever people behave the way that super-clever people used to. He's different. And you could not do Moriarty the way he's done before. Everyone else has done it. Sherlock and John I think are very much the originals, but Moriarty is different."

/I apologise for misspelling Sue Vertue's name in the previous post
 
2012-05-18 02:40:14 PM

if_i_really_have_to: Samwise Gamgee: The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker. Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc. In fact, the resolution was the same, too - Sherlock had to trash his public image and 'die', just as Batman took the heat for offing Harvey Dent...

Er, no.

I get most people are not actual Sherlock freaks and so haven't seen any makings or interviews or anything, but Moffat explained that the original Sherlock Holmes Moriarty was THE archetype for every Big Bad since. He was the first mob boss, intelligent and dark evil mastermind character. Every single Big Bad since him has been built on him. So they didn't want to do that again because it's old, it's tired, and people would think it was lame and stereotypical.

Quoth the Moffat "With Moriarty, Doyle does such a brilliant job of writing a mafia don before they were invented. Every other supervillain ever since sounds like Moriarty. Goldfinger sounds exactly like Moriarty. He invented the supervillain. If you do him like that now, he sounds like the biggest cliche on earth. So we did a quite different kind of Moriarty, one that would be more alarming, I suppose, to Sherlock. He's super-clever. But then I don't think super-clever people behave the way that super-clever people used to. He's different. And you could not do Moriarty the way he's done before. Everyone else has done it. Sherlock and John I think are very much the originals, but Moriarty is different."

/I apologise for misspelling Sue Vertue's name in the previous post


So, what's your quote supposed to prove in regards to the Joker argument? All he's saying there is that the Moriarty of the show is not the one from the books, which we already know. I already stated that I preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the last film. I didn't find the idea 'old' or 'tired'. It's all in the execution.
 
2012-05-18 03:35:52 PM

Samwise Gamgee: So, what's your quote supposed to prove in regards to the Joker argument? All he's saying there is that the Moriarty of the show is not the one from the books, which we already know. I already stated that I preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the last film. I didn't find the idea 'old' or 'tired'. It's all in the execution.


I think the point he's making is that the Joker, in any form, is derivative of Moriarty from Doyle's original work. Much the same way that all "Big Bad" characters that have occurred in literature (and now movies) since the publication of the Sherlock Holmes stories are derivative of Moriarty.

Also, I disagree with your assertion that "The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker." By your own "Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc." standards, the "Dark Knight" Joker was a painful rip-off of tons of movie villains that came before him (including the other movies versions). Besides, Sherlock's Moriarty isn't nutty. Ignore the vocal affectations and look at his deeds. There was nothing remotely 'nutty' or even spontaneous to any of his actions.
 
2012-05-18 07:54:50 PM
that show looks awful. i'll stick to the PBS version.
 
2012-05-18 08:19:28 PM
homoslavian?

its got sick boy in it. im good.
 
2012-05-18 11:31:56 PM

browneye: Also prefer the American version of Being Human to the UK version.


The American version has been smart and learned from the mistakes made in the UK show.

On the other hand, the UK show had Russell Tovey
 
2012-05-19 03:57:16 AM

Surool: Samwise Gamgee: So, what's your quote supposed to prove in regards to the Joker argument? All he's saying there is that the Moriarty of the show is not the one from the books, which we already know. I already stated that I preferred Jared Harris' Moriarty from the last film. I didn't find the idea 'old' or 'tired'. It's all in the execution.

I think the point he's making is that the Joker, in any form, is derivative of Moriarty from Doyle's original work. Much the same way that all "Big Bad" characters that have occurred in literature (and now movies) since the publication of the Sherlock Holmes stories are derivative of Moriarty.


That's not the point he was making. The passage he quoted was Moffatt stating that he couldn't put the literary Moriarty on the screen because it's 'been done to death', 'old and tired', etc. Which is a crap assertion in itself, but it had nothing to do with the Joker, and no, the Joker owes NOTHING to the literary Moriarty. Lex Luthor, sure, but not the Joker. There no common ground - at least not until the BBC's Moriarty...

Also, I disagree with your assertion that "The Moriarty from 'Sherlock' was a 'light' version of The Dark Knight's Joker." By your own "Nutty anarchist with a flair for the dramatic, etc." standards, the "Dark Knight" Joker was a painful rip-off of tons of movie villains that came before him (including the other movies versions). Besides, Sherlock's Moriarty isn't nutty. Ignore the vocal affectations and look at his deeds. There was nothing remotely 'nutty' or even spontaneous to any of his actions.

Wha? To quote him: 'BUT I'M SO CHANGEABLE!!!!' - Moriarty, when he randomly decides first not to kill the heroes, but then kill them, but then not kill them...
 
2012-05-20 02:21:54 PM
I caught both Seasons of Sherlock a couple months ago thaks to the magic of bittorrent, and I'm here to tell you that it so does NOT need a CBS remake.

/Honestly, how do you people watch broadcast tv?
 
Displayed 111 of 111 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report