I can't help but think that Brees might want to leave? Why stay at an organization that is currently such a mess?

I heard a lot about how Peyton Manning's contract last season would heavily influence Brees' this season, and they were right, but not in the way we all thought it would go.

Headline is a reach, and misspelled to boot. Boo on you, subby.


xtragrind: Why stay at an organization that is currently such a mess?

Because it won't be a mess forever, Sean Payton and Drew Brees have an offensive chemistry that Brees would be hard pressed to match anywhere else, and even this season won't be nearly as doomy-and-gloomy as people think, with Brees as a stabilizer.

Also, by all accounts, he and his family are very happy living in the New Orleans area, which helps.

xtragrind: I can't help but think that Brees might want to leave? Why stay at an organization that is currently such a mess?

If he leaves, and goes to another NFC South team, he'll play a certain team that puts bounties on opposing QBs twice a year.

I'd like to see him in Buffalo.

LOL
/I liked the headline
//fark the Ain'ts

Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

Brees to the 49ers

ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

If the owners cared about "team first" they'd pay the man.

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The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

I still don't buy the players' line of "it's not about the money, it's about respect." I don't see anything "insulting" or "disrespectful" in any contract negotiations. It's about the money. The franchise tag is a tool that was given to teams under the CBA -- negotiated and shepherded through the rank and file in large measure by one Drew Brees -- and they are using that tool in the way it was intended: to protect the team from losing its franchise player.

Give Brees whatever the hell he wants. The Saints won't find a better QB, so it's not exactly like they're holding the better hand. I'm going to be pissed if the Saints upper management finishes what the NFL started. Without Brees, in addition to all the other steps back the Saints have taken over the off-season, we might as well not play next year.

Super Chronic: The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

I still don't buy the players' line of "it's not about the money, it's about respect." I don't see anything "insulting" or "disrespectful" in any contract negotiations. It's about the money. The franchise tag is a tool that was given to teams under the CBA -- negotiated and shepherded through the rank and file in large measure by one Drew Brees -- and they are using that tool in the way it was intended: to protect the team from losing its franchise player.

Drew Brees actively fought against the "franchise tag" and has already been farked over by it once.

Sin_City_Superhero: I hope Drew signs a huge-money deal in N'awlins, and then has a season-ending injury in one of the first games (or better yet, in the pre-season). Nothing too serious...a broken leg or something. Then have it happen again the next year, too. Basicly, fark the Saints.

you mad

The next two months are going to be very interesting. Though it seems like Brees has decided he's gone if he's not the highest paid player in the NFL. And I can't say I blame him.

digistil: The next two months are going to be very interesting. Though it seems like Brees has decided he's gone if he's not the highest paid player in the NFL. And I can't say I blame him.

If he's not on a long-term contract.

BREES TO THE BRONCOS

Billy Crystal Meth Lab: BREES TO THE BRONCOS

Could you imagine if Brees went to St. Louis? The AFC West would turn into a power-house.

And by St. Louis I mean Kansas City.

// need more coffee

Cards would be a good place for him if it doesn't pan out.

Come to the Jets, we love quarterbacks.

Sin_City_Superhero: I hope Drew signs a huge-money deal in N'awlins, and then has a season-ending injury in one of the first games (or better yet, in the pre-season). Nothing too serious...a broken leg or something. Then have it happen again the next year, too. Basicly, fark the Saints.

If you really want Saints fans to commit suicide, you should root for Brees to sign with another team and win the Superbowl which is being held in New Orleans this year!

i can't stand the Saints either.

*TIN-FOIL HAT*
This is a continuation of the plot by the NFL and the Saints to tank the team so they can move it to Los Angeles. That's why bounty-gate popped up at the same time as Brees' contract
*/TIN-FOIL HAT*

ronnie2bucks:
If you really want Saints fans to commit suicide, you should root for Brees to sign with another team and win the Superbowl which is being held in New Orleans this year!

i can't stand the Saints either.

The Saints already franchise tagged Brees, which makes your scenario impossible. Nice try, though.

/haters gonna hate

Anybody know what the Saints cap picture looks like for the next few seasons? Could be they don't want to have to lose key players just to keep Brees. Could be nobody on the team is willing to renegotiate away enough $ to sign Brees. I'm sure the team wants to sign him long term, but I'm guessing it isn't nearly as simple as coming up with a dollar amount.

Born in the New Orleans, love the saints, but what they are doing and how they are reacting to our BEST player of all time is Appalling.

When Smoltzy left the braves for a measly couple mil, I got turned off the Braves for a while (not to mention Frank Wren is no Shurholtz). I will easily do the same of the 'Aints if they don't give Drew what he's worth.

iron_city_ap: Anybody know what the Saints cap picture looks like for the next few seasons? Could be they don't want to have to lose key players just to keep Brees. Could be nobody on the team is willing to renegotiate away enough $ to sign Brees. I'm sure the team wants to sign him long term, but I'm guessing it isn't nearly as simple as coming up with a dollar amount.

Don't know the answer to your question, but according to some former Saints exec, it may be less about money and more about something sneaky Drew's agent is trying slip into the contract, so he can use it as leverage to get similar terms for his other prominent clients (Eli, Stafford, etc.).

dwyw: iron_city_ap: Anybody know what the Saints cap picture looks like for the next few seasons? Could be they don't want to have to lose key players just to keep Brees. Could be nobody on the team is willing to renegotiate away enough $ to sign Brees. I'm sure the team wants to sign him long term, but I'm guessing it isn't nearly as simple as coming up with a dollar amount.

Don't know the answer to your question, but according to some former Saints exec, it may be less about money and more about something sneaky Drew's agent is trying slip into the contract, so he can use it as leverage to get similar terms for his other prominent clients (Eli, Stafford, etc.).

Because Saints exec's have such an outstanding record on honesty and integrity.

dwyw: Don't know the answer to your question, but according to some former Saints exec, it may be less about money and more about something sneaky Drew's agent is trying slip into the contract, so he can use it as leverage to get similar terms for his other prominent clients (Eli, Stafford, etc.).

That's retarted. If that were the case, Tom Benson would just come out and say, "We offered Drew Brees 10 years at $30 million a year" and they turned it down, then let Condon explain why.

The NFL is a passing league. Drew Brees is the best passer in the league. You will lose much much more by not giving him what he wants than by overpaying him. Overpay the guy. Give him an offer that makes him say, "Holy shiat!"

I heard the negotiation took a turn for the worse when the Saints put a bounty on Drew's agent.

Sin_City_Superhero: I hope Drew signs a huge-money deal in N'awlins, and then has a season-ending injury in one of the first games (or better yet, in the pre-season). Nothing too serious...a broken leg or something. Then have it happen again the next year, too. Basicly, fark the Saints.

That's horseshiat. Wishing injury on a player makes you an ass.

How about I say "I hope you lose your job at Taco Bell". How would that make you feel about me?

Jim from Saint Paul: How about I say "I hope you lose your job at Taco Bell". How would that make you feel about me?

"Sin CIty Superhero" means he most likely lives in Las Vegas. Which means he's probably a waiter, card dealer, toilet cleaner, or the filthy guy who hands out the flyers for the brothels.

netweavr: Super Chronic: The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

I still don't buy the players' line of "it's not about the money, it's about respect." I don't see anything "insulting" or "disrespectful" in any contract negotiations. It's about the money. The franchise tag is a tool that was given to teams under the CBA -- negotiated and shepherded through the rank and file in large measure by one Drew Brees -- and they are using that tool in the way it was intended: to protect the team from losing its franchise player.

Drew Brees actively fought against the "franchise tag" and has already been farked over by it once.

Okay, but he still signed it. Sometimes you have to give up things in negotiations. Again, it was the deal he negotiated. But that's not even my main point: my main point is that teams can and should do whatever is in their rights under the CBA, and it's silly for players to claim to be insulted when the system is put to its intended use.

Super Chronic: netweavr: Super Chronic: The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

I still don't buy the players' line of "it's not about the money, it's about respect." I don't see anything "insulting" or "disrespectful" in any contract negotiations. It's about the money. The franchise tag is a tool that was given to teams under the CBA -- negotiated and shepherded through the rank and file in large measure by one Drew Brees -- and they are using that tool in the way it was intended: to protect the team from losing its franchise player.

Drew Brees actively fought against the "franchise tag" and has already been farked over by it once.

Okay, but he still signed it. Sometimes you have to give up things in negotiations. Again, it was the deal he negotiated. But that's not even my main point: my main point is that teams can and should do whatever is in their rights under the CBA, and it's silly for players to claim to be insulted when the system is put to its intended use.

And I can freely call you an asshat, that doesn't make it silly for you to be insulted.

Sin_City_Superhero: Jim from Saint Paul: Sin_City_Superhero: I hope Drew signs a huge-money deal in N'awlins, and then has a season-ending injury in one of the first games (or better yet, in the pre-season). Nothing too serious...a broken leg or something. Then have it happen again the next year, too. Basicly, fark the Saints.

That's horseshiat. Wishing injury on a player makes you an ass.

How about I say "I hope you lose your job at Taco Bell". How would that make you feel about me?

First of all, that is only one of the many things that makes me an ass.

That said, I wished upon him a minor injury that would sideline him without permanent injury, and not until after he signs a big-money deal. Wishing for me to lose my job (which, by the way, is NOT at the Bell) is not the same thing. For starters, he'd still get paid. A LOT. He'd collect a $25 or $30 million paycheck, and get to sit around his mansion playing PS3. That sounds just terrible.

Wishing someone the inability to do their profession makes you a dick. You can excuse it away for yourself all you want, you're a dick.

The Taco bell thing was the subtle insult/joke attempt. Le sigh.

/and he should be playing Xbox

netweavr: Super Chronic: The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

I still don't buy the players' line of "it's not about the money, it's about respect." I don't see anything "insulting" or "disrespectful" in any contract negotiations. It's about the money. The franchise tag is a tool that was given to teams under the CBA -- negotiated and shepherded through the rank and file in large measure by one Drew Brees -- and they are using that tool in the way it was intended: to protect the team from losing its franchise player.

Drew Brees actively fought against the "franchise tag" and has already been farked over by it once.

Well, except that Drew Brees maintained his union membership knowing that the franchise tag was in place while working in a Right to Work state.

The Bestest: ihatedumbpeople: Drew Drew Drew...so you broke a passing record in a season in which a few other QBs also went over 5k and about a dozen others went over 4k...it's a passing league now, it happens. You're also in your 12th season, which means the NO management knows you aren't going to be around forever. Stop worrying about what Brady or Manning is getting and sign your contract. if not, all that 'team first' crap from the lockout last year is going to look like posing you did before a contract season. (which it likely was anyway).

eh, I actually gotta side with Brees on this. Getting franchised is somewhat of an insult to an elite QB. Make a fair offer in terms of amount/duration and if he doesn't like it, let him play the market.

yeah, i don't completely disagree with him...put it this way...if this was Rodgers and the Packers I'd say "pay that man"

However, with the new CBA and rookie pay scale, you can get a top five pick for 1/5 of what it used to cost you (a top tier QB for example). These guys are probably thinking.."heck, can pick up Barkley or so and so next year and pay him $5mil a year instead of $20mil, sign some other players, etc..."

It may just be the business side of it...as good as he is, the market has a ceiling.

Come to the Texans. Fark it, we could use a backup

netweavr: And I can freely call you an asshat, that doesn't make it silly for you to be insulted.

The Bestest: I can flip you off and it's perfectly legal and within my right for me to do so (in most states). Does that mean you shouldn't feel insulted by it?

Which brings me right back to my original point, which is that I don't buy players' "logic" that it's about respect, not the money. That's the kind of reasoning that lets people equate binding eight-figure contract offers with being flipped the bird and being called an asshat. I do good work for my employer; I also understand that they're going to pay me as little as they have to. Of course, I'm also far more replaceable in my job than a Drew Brees is. But the point is that the job market for all of us working stiffs, from the janitor in my building to a Hall of Fame quarterback to the chief of neurosurgery at the Mayo Clinic, is an economic one, not a love-and-affection one.

ihatedumbpeople: However, with the new CBA and rookie pay scale, you can get a top five pick for 1/5 of what it used to cost you (a top tier QB for example). These guys are probably thinking.."heck, can pick up Barkley or so and so next year and pay him $5mil a year instead of $20mil, sign some other players, etc..."

This would make sense if there were 32 Drew Brees available in the draft every year.

It might even make sense if there were ONE Drew Brees available in the draft every year.

I bet he asks God what to do. And I'm certain God will tell him to sign with the team that will pay him the most money. Interesting how God always tells players to follow the money.

In other Saints news, the Louisiana Legislature is asking the NFL to drop the penalties, because it caused to much butt hurt in their state. Also, Vilma files a suit against Goodell for defamation. Oh Saints, no other team has brought the lulz like this in an off season in recent memory.