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(Hot Air)   Voting. So easy a someone pretending to be a non-citizen who can't vote under US law can do it   (hotair.com) divider line 212
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2012-05-16 12:48:15 PM

skullkrusher: Headso: the argument against voter id laws is that they are not necessary

right.

Headso: the argument against the idea of "free" voter ids is that they are effectively not free and will lead to the fees and availability of the prerequisite forms being a partisan issue.

nor is voting if you have to pay for gas to get you to the polling station. If you can get a voter ID card for free by providing proof of residency it is no more onerous than registering to vote in the first place


I walk to mine. No need to pay for gas. And where I'm from, government ID requires you to pay a fee, or have a driver's license, which requires a fee to take the test, which results in a fee for the ID that is the license.
 
2012-05-16 12:50:54 PM

Babwa Wawa: friday13: It's called a "poll tax" and has already been declared unconstitutional, specifically it discriminates against those with no money. See, in America, you don't need to be a damned landed lord in order to vote.

It's not just been declared unconstitutional - there's an entire f*cking amendment about exactly this issue. Documentation that can only be acquired by paying a fee cannot be a prerequisite for voting. It's simple and clear - no interpretation needed.


Which is why states such as Indiana have agreed to provide acceptable forms of ID free of charge and why their laws have held up to SCOTUS scrutiny. The whole poll tax, disenfranchisement argument was weak to begin with and doesn't get any better with age.
 
2012-05-16 12:51:58 PM

The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii: Poopspasm: karnal: What is it with Democrats and voter fraud.....it's like cheating is instinctive to them.

Provide one recent example of voting fraud.

You DID read the article..............right? I would think the fact that potentially 180,000 people who are registered to vote that shouldn't be because they are NON-CITIZENS, kinda runs against the concept of free and fair elections. But then it's gonna be a close election and you're gonna need all the help you can get, no matter how you get it.

Nah, we don't need voter ID laws in this country.


why the hell are you believing anything that comes from O'Keefe? You DO know that every "project" of his has, in the end, been proven to be nothing but lies, right?
 
2012-05-16 12:53:58 PM

friday13: skullkrusher: Headso: the argument against voter id laws is that they are not necessary

right.

Headso: the argument against the idea of "free" voter ids is that they are effectively not free and will lead to the fees and availability of the prerequisite forms being a partisan issue.

nor is voting if you have to pay for gas to get you to the polling station. If you can get a voter ID card for free by providing proof of residency it is no more onerous than registering to vote in the first place

I walk to mine. No need to pay for gas. And where I'm from, government ID requires you to pay a fee, or have a driver's license, which requires a fee to take the test, which results in a fee for the ID that is the license.


And you are from MD, which does not have a voter ID law that I'm aware of nor will it ever. So how is that relevant to this discussion?
 
2012-05-16 01:02:20 PM

friday13: skullkrusher: JusticeandIndependence: Babwa Wawa: make IDs free

How do you make them free? Taxpayers would have to fund it somehow.

I think the point is that voters would not have to pay for their own.

It's called a "poll tax" and has already been declared unconstitutional, specifically it discriminates against those with no money. See, in America, you don't need to be a damned landed lord in order to vote.


what the fark are you talking about? Read the entire chain of discussion
 
2012-05-16 01:15:07 PM
We get it, you don't want the poors to vote.
 
2012-05-16 01:24:50 PM

friday13: The_Sheriff_Is_A_Niiii: Poopspasm: karnal: What is it with Democrats and voter fraud.....it's like cheating is instinctive to them.

Provide one recent example of voting fraud.

You DID read the article..............right? I would think the fact that potentially 180,000 people who are registered to vote that shouldn't be because they are NON-CITIZENS, kinda runs against the concept of free and fair elections. But then it's gonna be a close election and you're gonna need all the help you can get, no matter how you get it.

Nah, we don't need voter ID laws in this country.

why the hell are you believing anything that comes from O'Keefe? You DO know that every "project" of his has, in the end, been proven to be nothing but lies, right?


Actually it was a local TV news station that broke this:

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/16662854/2012/02/02/nbc2-investigates-vote r -fraud
 
2012-05-16 03:49:13 PM
Ignore them. Starve the beast.
 
2012-05-16 04:34:11 PM

bulldg4life: karnal: And by moron you mean "anyone who disagrees with my mindless big government mentality". Gotcha!

You're like an idiot's version of mad libs.


Nah, like this:

You're like a(n) _________ 's version of _________
noun noun


First thing I thought of.
 
2012-05-16 04:37:17 PM

Jormungandr: bulldg4life: karnal: And by moron you mean "anyone who disagrees with my mindless big government mentality". Gotcha!

You're like an idiot's version of mad libs.

Nah, like this:

You're like a(n) _________ 's version of _______
................................noun................................n o un


First thing I thought of.


It lined up before I hit add comment, weird.
 
2012-05-16 04:43:32 PM
So just to be clear after all this bullshiat the guy was a naturalized citizen, Acorn investigations prove no voter fraud and poll tax is considered because someone has to pay for an ID.



Many words just to state that one sentence.

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2012-05-16 04:49:24 PM
Oh, O'Keefe says so?

I guess I should believe him over a major university's well-funded research-based study.
 
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