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(Washington Post)   April was the 326th consecutive month with above average global temperatures, but this of course in no way proves that global warming may be occuring   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 541
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2012-05-15 01:31:01 PM  
it's a goddamn liberal plot!!!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 01:49:54 PM  
Global warming ended, those high tempratures are caused by Global Cooling. And it's the suns fault.
 
2012-05-15 01:50:26 PM  
Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.
 
2012-05-15 01:50:44 PM  
Thanks alot, Al Gore.
 
2012-05-15 01:51:41 PM  
After 326 months, shouldn't there be new average global temperatures?
 
2012-05-15 01:52:18 PM  
Well hey. If we go long enough the average will be higher and we'll be back to average.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 01:52:53 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.


Yes, we have had global warming before, just like we have had earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis, so that means they are all good.
 
2012-05-15 01:56:13 PM  
This is obviously (looks up excuses) due to a Soviet plot that occurred in the 80s and resulted in the worldwide recalibration of thermometers.
 
2012-05-15 01:58:44 PM  
But it has been cooler than usual here lately, therefore global climate change doesn't exist, Sarah Palin is automatically president and Jesusaurous Rex raptured all the righteous dinosaurs before the asteroid hit. (or would have it dinosaurs ever actually existed and weren't all planed in the 1800's by Jewish people working for Satan).
 
2012-05-15 01:59:14 PM  

vpb: antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.

Yes, we have had global warming before, just like we have had earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis, so that means they are all good.


Yes, but those last three things didn't really start happening until the gheys and single unwed mothers started showing up all over the place.
 
2012-05-15 02:05:39 PM  
27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.
 
2012-05-15 02:09:38 PM  

downstairs: 27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.



Global temperatures... how do they work?
 
2012-05-15 02:10:49 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.


kinda funny how people think that the earth is suppose to remain exactly the same over the course of time.

I think there was an ice age once. I saw a movie about it.

/3k?
//you're good
 
2012-05-15 02:12:16 PM  

downstairs: 27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.


Yeah! I saw snow in my town this winter for one day, so therefore global climate change is a myth! Myth Busted! Now, back to Reality TV.
 
2012-05-15 02:19:20 PM  
This global warming climate change is wreaking havoc on our fruit trees. We get these record temperatures in February and March, forcing the trees to bloom, then we get a freak freeze and snowstorm in May. It's been years since we've had a single peach, and this is the first time we'll have apples and cherries in probably 6 years.

The old-school Mormons who own the larger orchards here don't remember going this long without a harvest. It sucks.

/yes, it's anecdotal, but it's very real.
 
2012-05-15 02:20:48 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.


Denier "logic" works about that well in other situations:

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, murders are up 75% since you came into office and laid off hundreds of police. Shouldn't you hire them back?
Mayor: Murder rates have fluctuated on earth throughout its 3000 year history.

Reporter: Mr. CEO, your company's stock is down 60% since you replaced your most experienced workers with high-school dropouts to cut costs. Shouldn't you hire them back?
CEO: Stock prices have fluctuated since the market's inception.

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, we have security video of the so-called "Mad Arsonist" setting fires to buildings. What will you do to stop him?
Mayor: Nothing. Did you know that fires existed before there were humans on the planet?
 
2012-05-15 02:21:46 PM  
I'm just gonna go ahead and preemptively page Jon Snow to the thread to counter the nuts who think anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist or that it's actually a good thing.
 
2012-05-15 02:23:08 PM  

downstairs: 27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.


BWAHAHA! It snowed this year!! How could their be global warmining?

image.spreadshirt.com
 
2012-05-15 02:23:20 PM  

vpb: antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.

Yes, we have had global warming before, just like we have had earthquakes, hurricanes and tsunamis, so that means they are all good.


I think you need to read that post a bit more closely before commenting.
 
2012-05-15 02:23:31 PM  
Huh, you'd think with all of those warm months, the average would be moving up...
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/also, climate change, subby, not "global warming"
 
2012-05-15 02:23:42 PM  

Serious Black: I'm just gonna go ahead and preemptively page Jon Snow to the thread to counter the nuts who think anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist or that it's actually a good thing.


Pfff. I've heard his tired story before. He's all "winter is coming! Winter is coming!" Frankly, he can't even make up his mind as to whether it's global warming or cooling.
 
2012-05-15 02:29:36 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: This global warming climate change is wreaking havoc on our fruit trees. We get these record temperatures in February and March, forcing the trees to bloom, then we get a freak freeze and snowstorm in May. It's been years since we've had a single peach, and this is the first time we'll have apples and cherries in probably 6 years.

The old-school Mormons who own the larger orchards here don't remember going this long without a harvest. It sucks.

/yes, it's anecdotal, but it's very real.


Some of these mormons should beat the ever living f*ck out of Jeff Flake with this information. He's gone Climate Denial on them.
 
2012-05-15 02:30:23 PM  
Excuse me if I sound naive or snobby, but I thought that global warming was a proven fact, and the only arguments are whether or not humans are causing it, and what the long term effects will be?
 
2012-05-15 02:30:31 PM  
Based on finite, inaccurate temperature models, right?

I hate reading, "Hottest day in history". Really, so you knew the temperature on June 1, 12,000BC in Los Angeles? Our 'recorded history' is a farking speck of time.
 
2012-05-15 02:33:27 PM  

timujin: Huh, you'd think with all of those warm months, the average would be moving up...


The major data sets are baselined to an arbitrarily-chosen 30-year span, often 1951-1980. A moving average would be confusing.

(You could use any 30-year span, since you're measuring the trend.)
 
2012-05-15 02:33:34 PM  

Theaetetus: downstairs: 27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.

Yeah! I saw snow in my town this winter for one day, so therefore global climate change is a myth! Myth Busted! Now, back to Reality TV.


I never stated any opinion on global warming. Regardless of its extience or not, I'm not believing we've had 326 consecutive months of above average temperatures.

Even if global warming was something we all agreed on- 100% of us- I'll never believe that during 27+ years there wasn't a single month that bucked the trend.

Thats how weather friggin works!

And no, its not "it snowed in my town". Its "I have friends and family all over the globe... All over America, all over Australia" and I distinctly remember one winter in the US where it was way colder than normal everywhere... as well my Aussie relatives were having an oddly mild summer at the same time.
 
2012-05-15 02:34:33 PM  

vernonFL: Excuse me if I sound naive or snobby, but I thought that global warming was a proven fact, and the only arguments are whether or not humans are causing it, and what the long term effects will be?


Subby might think it's still 1995, when there were a lot more skeptics and people still used the phrase "global warming."
 
2012-05-15 02:34:51 PM  

netizencain: I hate reading, "Hottest day in history". Really, so you knew the temperature on June 1, 12,000BC in Los Angeles? Our 'recorded history' is a farking speck of time.


Its a novelty stat, settle down. No one said it meant anything other than something to talk about at the bar.
 
2012-05-15 02:36:39 PM  

vernonFL: Excuse me if I sound naive or snobby, but I thought that global warming was a proven fact, and the only arguments are whether or not humans are causing it, and what the long term effects will be?


From the journal Science:
"In its most recent assessment, IPCC states unequivocally that the consensus of scientific opinion is that Earth's climate is being affected by human activities: "Human activities ... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents ... that absorb or scatter radiant energy. ... [M]ost of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations" ...

The 928 papers were divided into six categories: explicit endorsement of the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals, methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus position. Of all the papers, 75% fell into the first three categories, either explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view; 25% dealt with methods or paleoclimate, taking no position on current anthropogenic climate change. Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the consensus position.

Admittedly, authors evaluating impacts, developing methods, or studying paleoclimatic change might believe that current climate change is natural. However, none of these papers argued that point.

This analysis shows that scientists publishing in the peer-reviewed literature agree with IPCC, the National Academy of Sciences, and the public statements of their professional societies. Politicians, economists, journalists, and others may have the impression of confusion, disagreement, or discord among climate scientists, but that impression is incorrect."
 
2012-05-15 02:37:32 PM  

chimp_ninja: timujin: Huh, you'd think with all of those warm months, the average would be moving up...

The major data sets are baselined to an arbitrarily-chosen 30-year span, often 1951-1980. A moving average would be confusing.

(You could use any 30-year span, since you're measuring the trend.)


Yeah, that was just a poorly phrased and unamusing attempt at humor.


/"unamusing" is not in the Firefox dictionary... I find these things all the time, fairly common words that are missing. Who programs this stuff? It's not like dictionaries are difficult to come by.
 
2012-05-15 02:38:55 PM  
I went to Vegas one time, and the roulette wheel turned up red 326 consecutive spins one time. Of course when I bet big, #327 didn't turn out so well. Al gore lied to me.
 
2012-05-15 02:41:13 PM  

downstairs: I never stated any opinion on global warming. Regardless of its extience or not, I'm not believing we've had 326 consecutive months of above average temperatures.

Even if global warming was something we all agreed on- 100% of us- I'll never believe that during 27+ years there wasn't a single month that bucked the trend.


NASA's global data set, with temperature anomalies given in hundredths of a Kelvin. The last month colder than the mid-century average was February, 1994, which was 0.07K below average.

All of the major data sets are a matter of public record, and they track very well with one another. Why would you declare that you would "never believe" that? That's the opposite of skepticism.
 
2012-05-15 02:41:30 PM  
Thanks, I'll revise then:

Global warming is a proven fact, that humans are causing it is universally accepted, and the only arguments are what the long term impacts are going to be.
 
2012-05-15 02:51:03 PM  

vernonFL: Thanks, I'll revise then:

Global warming is a proven fact, that humans are causing it is universally accepted, and the only arguments are what the long term impacts are going to be.


Very few things are "universal", but it's safe to say that the overwhelming majority of published evidence (which is what was judged in the Science study above) supports anthropogenic climate change.

I'd agree that the long-term impacts have considerable uncertainty, in part because it's all dependent on energy policy choices, green technology performance and adoption, treaties, assumed population growth rates, etc. There's a layman's introduction to this topic on MIT's web site, with links to more detail.
 
2012-05-15 03:07:08 PM  
What's interesting is how so much of that dark red is up near and in the arctic circle...
 
2012-05-15 03:36:44 PM  

chimp_ninja: antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.

Denier "logic" works about that well in other situations:

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, murders are up 75% since you came into office and laid off hundreds of police. Shouldn't you hire them back?
Mayor: Murder rates have fluctuated on earth throughout its 3000 year history.

Reporter: Mr. CEO, your company's stock is down 60% since you replaced your most experienced workers with high-school dropouts to cut costs. Shouldn't you hire them back?
CEO: Stock prices have fluctuated since the market's inception.

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, we have security video of the so-called "Mad Arsonist" setting fires to buildings. What will you do to stop him?
Mayor: Nothing. Did you know that fires existed before there were humans on the planet?


I love this and intend to steal it a lot.
 
2012-05-15 03:41:29 PM  

chimp_ninja: antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.

Denier "logic" works about that well in other situations:

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, murders are up 75% since you came into office and laid off hundreds of police. Shouldn't you hire them back?
Mayor: Murder rates have fluctuated on earth throughout its 3000 year history.

Reporter: Mr. CEO, your company's stock is down 60% since you replaced your most experienced workers with high-school dropouts to cut costs. Shouldn't you hire them back?
CEO: Stock prices have fluctuated since the market's inception.

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, we have security video of the so-called "Mad Arsonist" setting fires to buildings. What will you do to stop him?
Mayor: Nothing. Did you know that fires existed before there were humans on the planet?


Correlation doesn't imply causation you know.
 
2012-05-15 03:44:35 PM  

Nadie_AZ: ecmoRandomNumbers: This global warming climate change is wreaking havoc on our fruit trees. We get these record temperatures in February and March, forcing the trees to bloom, then we get a freak freeze and snowstorm in May. It's been years since we've had a single peach, and this is the first time we'll have apples and cherries in probably 6 years.

The old-school Mormons who own the larger orchards here don't remember going this long without a harvest. It sucks.

/yes, it's anecdotal, but it's very real.

Some of these mormons should beat the ever living f*ck out of Jeff Flake with this information. He's gone Climate Denial on them.


He knows better. I live an hour from Snowflake.
 
2012-05-15 03:46:32 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: He knows better. I live an hour from Snowflake.


He spent a week or 2 playing Robinson Crusoe a few years ago. I had hoped that this would let him see the importance of Government in how it can help people with basic services and needs. I was, sadly, wrong.
 
2012-05-15 03:48:15 PM  

Nadie_AZ: ecmoRandomNumbers: He knows better. I live an hour from Snowflake.

He spent a week or 2 playing Robinson Crusoe a few years ago. I had hoped that this would let him see the importance of Government in how it can help people with basic services and needs. I was, sadly, wrong.


He had to go rank and file to keep office. Everybody who wasn't hugging bibles, flags, fetuses, and guns was getting thrown out of office in 2010.
 
2012-05-15 04:11:33 PM  

antidisestablishmentarianism: chimp_ninja: antidisestablishmentarianism: Temperatures have fluctuated on earth throughout it's 3000 year history. Overzealous non-story.

Denier "logic" works about that well in other situations:

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, murders are up 75% since you came into office and laid off hundreds of police. Shouldn't you hire them back?
Mayor: Murder rates have fluctuated on earth throughout its 3000 year history.

Reporter: Mr. CEO, your company's stock is down 60% since you replaced your most experienced workers with high-school dropouts to cut costs. Shouldn't you hire them back?
CEO: Stock prices have fluctuated since the market's inception.

Reporter: Mr. Mayor, we have security video of the so-called "Mad Arsonist" setting fires to buildings. What will you do to stop him?
Mayor: Nothing. Did you know that fires existed before there were humans on the planet?

Correlation doesn't imply causation you know.


No, but radiative physics was well understood enough in 1896 to approximate the magnitude of the change in greenhouse effect by altering the composition of the atmosphere.

You seem to think that scientists noticed the increased temperature first, and associated increased temperature with increased carbon dioxide second. You have that backwards.
 
2012-05-15 04:20:38 PM  

chimp_ninja: No, but radiative physics was well understood enough in 1896 to approximate the magnitude of the change in greenhouse effect by altering the composition of the atmosphere.

You seem to think that scientists noticed the increased temperature first, and associated increased temperature with increased carbon dioxide second. You have that backwards.


Bah, you don't need science when you have gut feelings and what you feel is true.
 
2012-05-15 04:21:44 PM  

GWLush: downstairs: 27 years? In just the past 5 years I remember at least one winter month where temperatures had to have been way, way below averages. All over the country. Even down here in the deep south.

So, no.

BWAHAHA! It snowed this year!! How could their be global warmining?

[image.spreadshirt.com image 280x280]


i enjoy your misuse of the word "their" to further your point.
 
2012-05-15 05:29:26 PM  
higher oceans = less land = higher property values

I'm okay with this.

Also means a shorter drive to the beach
 
2012-05-15 05:32:48 PM  
Acknowledgement of global warming in no way impedes occuring, either.

In fact, i'd bet good money that its the Liberals who use hair spray mousse and other aersol canisters moreso than Conservatives.
 
2012-05-15 05:33:20 PM  
I blame the wizards and magnets
 
2012-05-15 05:33:32 PM  
If they graded the temperature on the curve, it might give us a few more years before it tips to apocalypes.
 
2012-05-15 05:35:09 PM  
Wow, in before Mr. Urantia Book. However, I'm certain he will engreen us soon enough.
 
2012-05-15 05:35:23 PM  
You have all had the wool pulled over your eyes. Where do you think these scientists get their money from? The government pays them to report false measurements so they can sell more fear.
 
2012-05-15 05:35:35 PM  
It's just a series of coincidences! Don't let "big math" convince you otherwise!
 
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