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2012-05-15 12:36:34 PM
Ward Churchill vs. Elizabeth Warren. who's the better fake Native American?
 
2012-05-15 12:37:43 PM
I urge you to keep going with this line of attack, it's really good and everybody cares!
 
2012-05-15 12:37:51 PM
non-story non-story.
 
2012-05-15 12:42:39 PM
Nobody cares, because Warren is a good candidate running against awful Tea Party radicals.
 
2012-05-15 12:42:42 PM

LucklessWonder: Ward Churchill vs. Elizabeth Warren. who's the better fake Native American?


Churchill is clearly the best fake Indian ever. Not only did he use his bogus claim to secure a cushy university position, but he became a leading expert on Indian culture and his fabrications of, cough, cough, smallpox planted in blankets was actually believed by some.

Warren just made up the Indian stuff to get some preferential treatment at the university. Of course, if she tried to parlay her fakery into a Senate seat she might pass Churchill.
 
2012-05-15 12:46:32 PM
That's it? After all the trouble The Globe caused, necessitating countless hours by lowly bloggers to correct the falsehood. ...

This
mea culpa should be front page at The Globe.

Ahahah
 
2012-05-15 12:48:59 PM
struckbyenlightning.files.wordpress.com

Not a descendant of Chief Spreading Bull?
 
2012-05-15 12:50:35 PM
That was a lot of crap to wade through to get to the actual chicken farking:

The Globe and the false report of a 1/32 Cherokee connection may have saved Warren's campaign, as it came at a time when her campaign was in panic and without any evidence to substantiate her claim to Native American ancestry, which she used when a junior faculty member in a law school association directory to obtain "minority law teacher" status.

I'm so glad the Globe "saved" her campaign from the perils of the junior faculty law school directory. The icing on the cake is that all the non-Globe reference links point back to his own blog or Breitbart.
 
2012-05-15 12:52:06 PM

Cletus C.: Warren just made up the Indian stuff to get some preferential treatment at the university.


Washington Examiner 5/10/12


On the Rutgers application, Warren wrote "No" in response to the question: "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?"

Warren graduated from Rutgers in 1976.

On a personnel file from the University of Texas, Warren checked the box "White" when asked to select "the racial category or categories with which you most closely identify."

The categories included a box for "American Indian or Alaska Native," which Warren did not check.

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried has said that any suggestion that Warren enjoyed an affirmative action advantage in her hiring as a full professor is "false" and that Warren was recruited because of her expertise in bankruptcy and commercial law.



What preferential treatment did she receive?
 
2012-05-15 12:54:16 PM
Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.
 
2012-05-15 12:57:21 PM
When do we see the corrections from all the blogs that said Warren had claimed to be Native American in order to benefit from affirmative action? For that matter, when do we see a correction of the FARK headline claiming she had listed herself as Native American in order to get "extra paycheck money"?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 01:01:45 PM
So basically the correction was that they weren't specific enough about the document they found and some idiot bloger is trying to spin it into some sort of evidence that she lied?

Does he have any actual evidence that she lied or is it just "she hasn't proved it to my satisfaction so she must be lying" sort of thing.

And what's with all the crappy right wing blogs? Right-wingers can't come up with anything that a news organization would touch? Not even from Fox?
 
2012-05-15 01:01:59 PM
The Republican Party: The Party of "Not Intended to Be a Factual Statement."
 
2012-05-15 01:09:21 PM

someonelse: correction of the FARK headline


encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-05-15 01:10:28 PM

Cubicle Jockey:

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried has said that any suggestion that Warren enjoyed an affirmative action advantage in her hiring as a full professor is "false" and that Warren was recruited because of her expertise in bankruptcy and commercial law.




Seriously. Did you expect him to say that yes we hire people based on affirmative action and not their capabilities?
 
2012-05-15 01:13:36 PM

someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.


do you know how I know you didn't rtfa?

"Neither the society nor the Globe has seen the primary document, whose existence has not been proven."

for all you apologists who claim you want better disclosure and more honesty in politics it is funny to watch you spin this one.

probably why 0bama ditched her and didn't support her enough to get her that post he created. Gave it to some white, non-fake-indian guy instead.

they probably vetted her and knew this was coming.
 
2012-05-15 01:15:52 PM
1) When all else fails, make shiat up.
2) All else has failed.
 
2012-05-15 01:16:23 PM
Indian corrector.
 
2012-05-15 01:20:31 PM
this is why we can't have nice things.

No one hired Thompson because he had a CS degree. But when Yahoo found out the truth, he got fired or resigned.

Chief Warren is a politician so she gets away with a lot worse. Same with Rangel, Jefferson and Geitner and other cheats (yes, republicans too).

We expect so little of our politicians and that is exactly what we get.
 
2012-05-15 01:24:25 PM

Shvetz: Nobody cares, because Warren is a good candidate running against awful Tea Party radicals.


She's a liar with no ethics, but you libtards seem to go for that. You do realize she has no actual proof of her heritage right?
 
2012-05-15 01:24:59 PM
I was watching Fox news the day this broke and they went on and on about her using this claim and how she is a horrible candidate for using race, etc etc.Since it came out they were wrong along with everyone else they haven't said a word or retracted anything. I know they do this stuff all the time but their blatant lying is so over the top now it's ridiculous.
 
2012-05-15 01:26:54 PM

Mearen: Shvetz: Nobody cares, because Warren is a good candidate running against awful Tea Party radicals.

She's a liar with no ethics, but you libtards seem to go for that. You do realize she has no actual proof of her heritage right?


You mean you wanna see HER birth certificate, too?
 
2012-05-15 01:32:11 PM

TheGhostofFarkPast: I was watching Fox news the day this broke and they went on and on about her using this claim and how she is a horrible candidate for using race, etc etc.Since it came out they were wrong along with everyone else they haven't said a word or retracted anything. I know they do this stuff all the time but their blatant lying is so over the top now it's ridiculous.


what were they wrong about?

why do you list yourself in a directory anyway? (hint: recruiters look for people there)

besides, there is no proof that she is even 1/32, you know that right?
 
2012-05-15 01:34:22 PM

Cubicle Jockey: Cletus C.: Warren just made up the Indian stuff to get some preferential treatment at the university.

Washington Examiner 5/10/12


On the Rutgers application, Warren wrote "No" in response to the question: "Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?"

Warren graduated from Rutgers in 1976.

On a personnel file from the University of Texas, Warren checked the box "White" when asked to select "the racial category or categories with which you most closely identify."

The categories included a box for "American Indian or Alaska Native," which Warren did not check.

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried has said that any suggestion that Warren enjoyed an affirmative action advantage in her hiring as a full professor is "false" and that Warren was recruited because of her expertise in bankruptcy and commercial law.


What preferential treatment did she receive?


Don't know. I also don't know why two universities where she worked listed her as a minority.
 
2012-05-15 01:39:01 PM

someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.


The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

legalinsurrection.com

Link

Link

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.
 
2012-05-15 01:42:51 PM

MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

[legalinsurrection.com image 619x520]

Link

Link

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.


DON'T use facts.
It just gets them angry and they call you a troll.

They only respond to emotion.
 
2012-05-15 01:51:40 PM
So I can vote for the guy who's in the pockets of wall street crooks, or the woman who's been fighting them tooth and nail for the last four years.

Why on earth would I care about something as trivial as this?
 
2012-05-15 01:52:17 PM
Elizabeth Warren should just submit a jar of spit to 23andMe, and get a gene test. It probably could detect her 3% Native American DNA, not to mention her 2% Neanderthal DNA.

/Talk about a minority!
//Seriously, they test for Neanderthal DNA. I'm only 2.3%, though. :(
 
2012-05-15 01:55:47 PM

birdboy2000: So I can vote for the guy who's in the pockets of wall street crooks, or the woman who's been fighting them tooth and nail for the last four years.

Why on earth would I care about something as trivial as this?


If you don't care about integrity then why do you believe that after getting into office she won't just start being in the pockets of the wall street croud?

that is what 0bama did after all.
 
2012-05-15 01:56:08 PM
Don't you love it when rich, priviledged white people pretend to be minorities?

Hint: If you're so white that pure snow looks dirty compared to your skin, don't write anything but white on your race fields. We don't care if a slave or injun was your 13 great grandpappy, it didn't affect your life negatively in any way what so ever, princess.
 
2012-05-15 02:05:32 PM

MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.


Why bother? It's easier to attack the content. For example, the amateur genealogist doesn't "admit it was a mistake". Accordingly, your "argument" is based on a lie.

See how easy that was? And I never even had to point out that your source is Breitbart.
 
2012-05-15 02:06:56 PM
Do you know what's funny? I know all about this "E Warren is she an Injun or not" garbage but I have literally seen no coverage of "what ideas Scott Brown stands for," other than of course "E Warren is a liar."
 
2012-05-15 02:12:07 PM

naveline: Do you know what's funny? I know all about this "E Warren is she an Injun or not" garbage but I have literally seen no coverage of "what ideas Scott Brown stands for," other than of course "E Warren is a liar."


Where Scott Brown stands on the issues.

/You're welcome.
//Haven't read it myself, since he's not my Senator and I don't care. He might just be saying "I'm for good things and against bad things."
 
2012-05-15 02:17:06 PM

MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

[legalinsurrection.com image 619x520]

Link

Link

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.


Here's a link for you: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57427355-503544/warren-explain s -minority-listing-talks-of-grandfathers-high-cheekbones/

Warren thought she was Native American because it was part of her family lore. The Smith family newsletter confirms that the Smith family subscribed to that lore as recently as 2006. Since Warren grew up with that lore, she thought she was Native American. One bad source doesn't prove that she's not. And even if she isn't, this is the extent of Warren's claiming to be Native American:

According to the Boston Globe, Warren identified as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools (AALS) deskbook for between 1985-1996.

It has nothing to do with affirmative action or any other government benefit. AALS is non-profit. And even if she did get some benefit, which has yet to be proven, there is zero evidence she lied since her entire family believed it. She says she listed her supposed heritage to relate to others that had the same heritage and:

in the hopes that might mean that I would be invited to a luncheon a group something with people who are like I am. Nothing like that every happened. That was absolutely not the use for it and so I stopped checking it off.

What exactly is anyone trying to prove with this story other than BS election year bickering?
 
2012-05-15 02:19:20 PM

Snarfangel: naveline: Do you know what's funny? I know all about this "E Warren is she an Injun or not" garbage but I have literally seen no coverage of "what ideas Scott Brown stands for," other than of course "E Warren is a liar."

Where Scott Brown stands on the issues.

/You're welcome.
//Haven't read it myself, since he's not my Senator and I don't care. He might just be saying "I'm for good things and against bad things."


He is. A better source is On the Issues.
 
2012-05-15 02:24:04 PM
tenpoundsofcheese

This is what I think of whenever I hear "0bama"
i14.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-15 02:28:31 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: If you don't care about integrity then why do you believe that after getting into office she won't just start being in the pockets of the wall street croud?

that is what 0bama did after all.


He's an anti-American socialist in the pocket of Wall Street?
 
2012-05-15 02:33:26 PM

MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

[legalinsurrection.com image 619x520]

Link

Link

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.



So what???? Why does this matter??? Hello, welcome to America, the land of where if your family has been here for 150+ years you have no farking clue what ethnicity you can claim other than European Mutt with a little Misc. tossed in. She got it wrong. BIG DEAL. She got nothing from it and she's still committed to making banks be responsible for the mistakes they made that destroyed our economy.

I don't care if she claimed to be from Mars with a touch of Vulcan. I care as much about this as I cared about Clinton's blowjob. I vote for people based on what I think they're going to do, not who they are.
 
2012-05-15 02:36:14 PM

Theaetetus: MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.

Why bother? It's easier to attack the content. For example, the amateur genealogist doesn't "admit it was a mistake". Accordingly, your "argument" is based on a lie.

See how easy that was? And I never even had to point out that your source is Breitbart.


The entire she's 1/32 Native American meme came from a document that has been proven to have never existed. The great great great grandmother who was purported to be Cherokee has been shown to be nothing but white. Rather than accept and deal with this reality you libs choose to put your fingers in your ears while yelling na na na na na I can't hear you. Some things never change.

For some reason or another pretending to be Native was a fashionable pass time for liberals in the 70's and 80's but most were smart enough not to tout such bullshiat in an academic or political setting or in consideration for a job. On the other hand you have idiots like Ward Churchill and Elizabeth Warren who peddled their bullshiat so many times without being called on it they probably began believing it themselves.

It has been shown that Warren is not a Native American but instead of of coming out and saying "You know what, I guess my family lore wasn't as factual as I though. This is good to know and form now on I'll make sure none of these misunderstandings happen again." she has as recently as yesterday gone on CNN touting how proud she is of her Native American ancestry. Some pillar of honesty and integrity we're dealing with here.
 
2012-05-15 02:38:32 PM

kronicfeld: tenpoundsofcheese: If you don't care about integrity then why do you believe that after getting into office she won't just start being in the pockets of the wall street croud?

that is what 0bama did after all.

He's an anti-American socialist in the pocket of Wall Street?


There are two Obamas, one of which has a goatee.
 
2012-05-15 02:42:08 PM

MoeSzyslak: The entire she's 1/32 Native American meme came from a document that has been proven to have never existed.


Sorry, that's simply, blatantly untrue. How can a meme come from a document, but have the document never exist? If so, where did the meme come from? Simple logic, man.

What you meant to say - if you weren't trying to use misdirection and lies - was that the entire meme came from a different, existent document. Is it possible for you to get through a post without lying in some way? And why haven't you admitted that your posts have been full of untruths and owned up to that, saying "you know what, I guess my posts weren't as factual as I thought. This is good to know and from now on, I'll make sure none of these misunderstandings happen again"? What exactly are you trying to hide here with these attempts to deflect blame from yourself?
 
2012-05-15 02:55:06 PM

MoeSzyslak: It has been shown that Warren is not a Native American but instead of of coming out and saying "You know what, I guess my family lore wasn't as factual as I though. This is good to know and form now on I'll make sure none of these misunderstandings happen again."


Really? That's all it would take and then all is forgiven? Your fictional apology doesn't even include a real apology or an admission of a lie. That's how weak your argument is: your "all Warren has to say" theoretical mea culpa is flimsy bullshiat. But I'm sure you're just searching for the truth.

liberals in the 70's and 80's

Your culture warrior uniform is showing.
 
2012-05-15 02:57:40 PM
That she's a fake Indian (if your juice had sub-3% actual juice, it'd be called "water") is a minor issue with me. She's a left-wing radical and the way she ran the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau shows it.
 
2012-05-15 03:04:41 PM

burning_bridge: I don't care if she claimed to be from Mars with a touch of Vulcan. I care as much about this as I cared about Clinton's blowjob. I vote for people based on what I think they're going to do, not who they are.


If what they are is a farking opportunistic liar, why do you believe them when they tell you what they are going to do?
 
2012-05-15 03:08:23 PM

Theaetetus: MoeSzyslak: The entire she's 1/32 Native American meme came from a document that has been proven to have never existed.

Sorry, that's simply, blatantly untrue. How can a meme come from a document, but have the document never exist? If so, where did the meme come from? Simple logic, man.

What you meant to say - if you weren't trying to use misdirection and lies - was that the entire meme came from a different, existent document.


The "document" never existed.
Someone claimed it did and the press jumped on that.
They later confirmed they never saw it (ftfa)
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 03:13:55 PM

Mearen: Shvetz: Nobody cares, because Warren is a good candidate running against awful Tea Party radicals.

She's a liar with no ethics, but you libtards seem to go for that. You do realize she has no actual proof of her heritage right?


What proof do you have? She looks like most of the Native Americans I know.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 03:17:28 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: TheGhostofFarkPast: I was watching Fox news the day this broke and they went on and on about her using this claim and how she is a horrible candidate for using race, etc etc.Since it came out they were wrong along with everyone else they haven't said a word or retracted anything. I know they do this stuff all the time but their blatant lying is so over the top now it's ridiculous.

what were they wrong about?

why do you list yourself in a directory anyway? (hint: recruiters look for people there)

besides, there is no proof that she is even 1/32, you know that right?


The marriage license application is proof enough. I have never heard of anyone being required to prove their race anyway, the whole thing is simply retarded.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 03:20:58 PM

MoeSzyslak: someonelse: Wow. It was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. NOT THE LICENSE ITSELF. This dwarfs Watergate, people.

The marriage license application doesn't exist. Oklahoma Territory didn't have marriage license applications back then. The application would have been the actual license and it says nothing about anyone being Cherokee. O.C. Sara Smith (Warren's great great great grandmother) was not a Native American and the whole idea she was and a nonexistent marriage license application documents it came from a 2006 Smith family newsletter written by an amateur genealogist in England who has since admitted it was a mistake. Elizabeth Warren is exactly 0/32 Native American as in zero nada none and simply agreeing with her politics and refusing to acknowledge this fact doesn't magically make her any more native than she is which is none at all.

[legalinsurrection.com image 619x520]

Link

Link

Now go right ahead and attack the sources of my links without being able to attack the content of them because as far as this story is concerned everything in them is true.


Wow. Now the crazy right wing blog is part of a liberal conspiracy to pretend that she is a Native American. This stuff makes birthers look sane. This is crazy even for Fark.

You wackos truly think you have an issue don't you?
 
2012-05-15 03:20:59 PM

vpb: tenpoundsofcheese: TheGhostofFarkPast: I was watching Fox news the day this broke and they went on and on about her using this claim and how she is a horrible candidate for using race, etc etc.Since it came out they were wrong along with everyone else they haven't said a word or retracted anything. I know they do this stuff all the time but their blatant lying is so over the top now it's ridiculous.

what were they wrong about?

why do you list yourself in a directory anyway? (hint: recruiters look for people there)

besides, there is no proof that she is even 1/32, you know that right?

The marriage license application is proof enough. I have never heard of anyone being required to prove their race anyway, the whole thing is simply retarded.


There is NO marriage licence application. That is the point.

ftfa: "The document, alluded to in a family newsletter found by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. Neither the society nor the Globe has seen the primary document, whose existence has not been proven."

seriously, think for a second. do you really think that back then people filled out an application, that then got reviewed and approved and then later went and got married?
 
2012-05-15 03:30:51 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: There is NO marriage licence application. That is the point.

ftfa: "The document, alluded to in a family newsletter found by the New England Historic Genealogical Society, was an application for a marriage license, not the license itself. Neither the society nor the Globe has seen the primary document, whose existence has not been proven."


I have on my desk a piece of paper with my signature on it. You've never seen it, and so I have not proven its existence to you... And therefore it doesn't actually exist?
Logic isn't your strong suit, eh?

seriously, think for a second. do you really think that back then people filled out an application, that then got reviewed and approved and then later went and got married?

Marriage Bonds were first required in North Carolina by the Act of April 4th, 1741.
This act provided that:
... every clergyman of the Church of England, or want of such,
and lawful Magistrate, within this Government, shall ... join
together in the holy estate of matrimony, such persons who may
lawfully enter into such a relation, and have complied with the
directions herein after contained ... No Minister or Justice of
the Peace ... shall celebrate the rites of matrimony ... without
license ... or thrice publication of banns as prescribed by the
rubric in the book of common prayer." "License must be
issued by the Clerk of the County Court of the county where the
female shall have her usual residence. The prospective groom, in
order to obtain this license, must make a bond with sufficient
security in the sum of fifty pounds proclamation money, with
condition that there is no lawful cause to obstruct the marriage;

if either of the persons should be under the age of twenty one
years, consent of the parent or guardian must be had.


Now you're going to claim that North Carolina doesn't exist because you've never been there, right?
 
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