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2012-05-15 12:38:32 PM
The "article" referred to an unnamed and altogether unsourced - and likely fictional - labor market study...

I asked Davis if the parody article was offensive to him.
"No, I got more of a chuckle out of it," he said. "But if in fact this study does exist


Seriously? You guys are this stupid?
 
2012-05-15 12:58:33 PM
I came here to post just that, impaler.
 
2012-05-15 12:59:17 PM
Funny: "The Onion"

No.
 
2012-05-15 01:00:19 PM
Jeez, you don't have to carry this much water for the industry. You're already in Houston. It's not like they need a pep talk on how great oil and gas firms are.
 
2012-05-15 01:00:21 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.


Well. You've failed at life. Might as well pack it in now.
 
2012-05-15 01:02:36 PM
I've always felt that media savvy professionals, despite whatever agenda they may be pushing at a corporate level are first and formost hams who feel fabulous either being in front of a camera or attaching their name to a noteworthy event in front of said camera.
 
2012-05-15 01:03:54 PM
Oh God, yes. They have that lady oil industry flack on so many commercials on MSNBC. She doesn't call it fracking, but she describes it exactly and tells how wonderful it is and how it will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.And decrease our oil dependence. Not how it will poison our water supply and not how it won't lower gas prices because oil companies will just sell it overseas for a higher price.
 
2012-05-15 01:03:55 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.

Well. You've failed at life. Might as well pack it in now.


Like the author of the article, he's probably just figuring out that The Onion is satire.
 
2012-05-15 01:03:56 PM

impaler: The "article" referred to an unnamed and altogether unsourced - and likely fictional - labor market study...

I asked Davis if the parody article was offensive to him.
"No, I got more of a chuckle out of it," he said. "But if in fact this study does exist

Seriously? You guys are this stupid?


Do you find those two statements inconsistent for some reason?
 
2012-05-15 01:04:05 PM
The tobacco companies did this. Then the Oil Companies did this. Hell the MILK companies are doing this now creating "studies" that show high fat is good for you.
 
2012-05-15 01:05:19 PM

impaler: The "article" referred to an unnamed and altogether unsourced - and likely fictional - labor market study...

I asked Davis if the parody article was offensive to him.
"No, I got more of a chuckle out of it," he said. "But if in fact this study does exist

Seriously? You guys are this stupid?


No, he just has a sense of humor - and there have been dumber "real" studies that have resulted in even sillier news stories...
 
2012-05-15 01:08:04 PM
It's funny because it's true.
 
2012-05-15 01:08:11 PM

Corvus: The tobacco companies did this. Then the Oil Companies did this. Hell the MILK companies are doing this now creating "studies" that show high fat is good for you.


Why? The skimming process actually makes milk more profitable, not less profitable. They sell the skimmed fat at a tidy profit, which is why skim milk costs less than fatty milk.
 
2012-05-15 01:09:51 PM
"Generally, everybody's heart is in the right place"

In the left drawer of your desk just in case someone goes looking to stake you in it?
 
2012-05-15 01:09:54 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.



Sorry, but your opinion is wrong.*



*my comment was meant as humor

**but since you seem to have a hard time recognizing humor, I just figured I'd point it out for you
 
2012-05-15 01:10:02 PM
Isn't this what's commonly known as a "PR Department"?
 
2012-05-15 01:10:06 PM
Paging The onion is prophetic to the thread you were born for.
 
2012-05-15 01:10:43 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.


I agree. I used to laugh at the Onion before it was popular too. Now, I've moved onto the Decemberists. You've never heard of 'em.
 
2012-05-15 01:11:00 PM
Don't trust those Fracking Cylons!
 
2012-05-15 01:12:12 PM
I'd like to read the original Onion article, but I'll probably be blocked by their stupid paywall because I've already visited the site a couple of times in the past decade.
 
2012-05-15 01:13:27 PM
Generally, everybody's heart is in the right place.

BWWAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
 
2012-05-15 01:13:53 PM
Those guys are seriously dumb, lay off the tap water you drunks!
 
2012-05-15 01:14:32 PM

Kevin72: Oh God, yes. They have that lady oil industry flack on so many commercials on MSNBC. She doesn't call it fracking, but she describes it exactly and tells how wonderful it is and how it will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.And decrease our oil dependence. Not how it will poison our water supply and not how it won't lower gas prices because oil companies will just sell it overseas for a higher price.


Wholesale natural gas prices have lowered significantly in the last few years, due in large-part to this.

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/hist/n9190us3m.htm

I'm not saying the bad stuff isn't also true -- both "good" and "bad" facts can be true at the same time.
 
2012-05-15 01:14:39 PM

Kevin72: Oh God, yes. They have that lady oil industry flack on so many commercials on MSNBC. She doesn't call it fracking, but she describes it exactly and tells how wonderful it is and how it will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.And decrease our oil dependence. Not how it will poison our water supply and not how it won't lower gas prices because oil companies will just sell it overseas for a higher price.


I thought fracking was just for natural gas, not the oily kind.
 
2012-05-15 01:15:06 PM

bugontherug: They sell the skimmed fat at a tidy profit, which is why skim milk costs less than fatty milk.


Also supply and demand.
 
2012-05-15 01:15:17 PM

res_nihil: Isn't this what's commonly known as a "PR Department"?


Precisely, just like a car salesman is going to tell you about the great power and fuel economy of car X they won't tell you about the crappy transmission in it. What kind of oil company is going to come out and say, Fracking is effective but there is a chance something unwanted (read bad) can happen?
 
2012-05-15 01:16:41 PM

Corvus: The tobacco companies did this. Then the Oil Companies did this. Hell the MILK companies are doing this now creating "studies" that show high fat is good for you.


www2.citypaper.com
 
2012-05-15 01:18:47 PM
Savvy?

encrypted-tbn3.google.com
 
2012-05-15 01:19:40 PM
Frack the fracking frackers.
 
2012-05-15 01:20:00 PM

bugontherug: Corvus: The tobacco companies did this. Then the Oil Companies did this. Hell the MILK companies are doing this now creating "studies" that show high fat is good for you.

Why? The skimming process actually makes milk more profitable, not less profitable. They sell the skimmed fat at a tidy profit, which is why skim milk costs less than fatty milk.


my favorite are the billions of dollars in advertising that BP has been spending in the gulf coast region.

the even invented a festival. the oyster festival in new orleans. in the middle of the summer. if anyone knows anything about oysters, the one thing you should really know is that the middle of the summer is the worst time in the year to have a festival dedicated to oysters. unless you plan on a follow up festival called, the happy with hepatitis hoedown!
 
2012-05-15 01:23:12 PM
Very confused. The Onion news or funny? Can you say divide by zero?
 
2012-05-15 01:28:42 PM

LordOfThePings: Also supply and demand.


Uh, no. In Sales & Marketing there is a term called "demand creation". Few sectors are more aggressive at this than the food industry. People were TOLD fat was bad for you, which raised the demand for skim milk. In fact, the brainwashing was so successful that the industry is now (ironically) working with the government to raise demand for cheese because they have more milkfat than they know what to do with.

Same with chicken wings. Before "wings" became popular, wings were dog food or fertilizer. Eating them is a PITA which made it a low-quality meat. Serving wings was entirely a marketing scheme, and now the demand for them is stronger than any other part of the bird.

Same with SUVs. They're basically a regulation loophole with fat profit margins because they're classified as light trucks. Auto companies spend insane amounts of money convincing people they need these top-heavy roadhogs, which have some of the lowest "car/dollar" ratios of any consumer vehicle you can buy. The campaigns were so successful that the station wagon (which functionally fills the same role but has to meet higher standards) was almost extinct until gas hit $4/gallon.

In every case, people didn't just make a product that filled a void and instantly established demand. The demand was very much orchestrated with ad campaigns, often in direct opposition to consumer interests. Actually, it's depressing how easily Americans are duped.
 
2012-05-15 01:35:04 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.

Well. You've failed at life. Might as well pack it in now.


I guess it's back to the arcade...
 
2012-05-15 01:37:45 PM
27.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-05-15 01:39:12 PM
Fracking is perfectly safe.

Deployment of the technology by wildcatters and the poorly trained not so much.

Focusing on the technology is a misleading substitution argument, instead of coming down like the hand of God on the miscreants who fark up the use of the technology.
 
2012-05-15 01:39:48 PM

Kevin72: Oh God, yes. They have that lady oil industry flack on so many commercials on MSNBC. She doesn't call it fracking, but she describes it exactly and tells how wonderful it is and how it will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs.And decrease our oil dependence. Not how it will poison our water supply and not how it won't lower gas prices because oil companies will just sell it overseas for a higher price.


Honestly, I don't mind that it will/could poison your water table over time. I mean, they drilled in your area and you guys get the money. (not many new jobs, mostly truck drivers who were freed up when the economy slowed)

But the real biatch, is that the solid waste ( that is absolutely safe, and has no salts, metals, nor chemicals ) gets trucked 100 miles away to counties spread all over the state. Why spend expensive truck fuel? Why not spread 'safe' solids right on the property that gets the cash ? Plant grass on it and no problem?

Although mostly natural, the heavy salts, metals, chemicals etc... in the solids, is being spread around the state. Because if you piled it in one place.....it would be a huge superfund EPA waste dump.

Straight from the workers who were drilling the site (in Pa.)..... "the answer to pollution...is dilution"

/keep your own waste
 
2012-05-15 01:40:15 PM
bill hicks quote.
 
2012-05-15 01:41:57 PM
Now I'm confused. Are some posters saying The Onion IS funny? I mean, it used to be, back in the "Holy farking shiat!" days. But it jumped the shark quite a few years ago.

/maybe I'm just old and grumpy
 
2012-05-15 01:43:39 PM
OK, we all know the Onion is satire. But was what I just read also satire?
 
2012-05-15 01:43:47 PM

bugontherug: Do you find those two statements inconsistent for some reason?


No. I find them consistent.
 
2012-05-15 01:45:18 PM
Came for BSG refs; hoping this wasn't the hot korean chilli sauce they put on my chicken wrap, but rather the regular hot sauce. My lips and head are telling me differently.
 
2012-05-15 01:49:01 PM
Don't you folks remember? The Onion actually foresaw the 5-blade razor.
 
2012-05-15 01:49:18 PM
I spoke with a media savvy professional in Houston, Ed Davis, general manager at Fifth Ring, a global public relations firm, about his reaction to the parody article. I've run across Davis and his colleagues a few times while covering energy, and he seemed to be someone who would give it to me straight.

God, what a big wet sloppy kiss.

I assume that Ed is slamming it to the pig dog that wrote that abortion.
 
2012-05-15 01:51:02 PM

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: Now I'm confused. Are some posters saying The Onion IS funny? I mean, it used to be, back in the "Holy farking shiat!" days. But it jumped the shark quite a few years ago.

/maybe I'm just old and grumpy


I believe SNL and Mad Magazine and National Lampoon and The Simpsons went through the same process. I don't think SNL changed that much from the 70's to today, but we changed..
 
2012-05-15 01:54:01 PM

dragonchild: Same with chicken wings. Before "wings" became popular, wings were dog food or fertilizer. Eating them is a PITA which made it a low-quality meat. Serving wings was entirely a marketing scheme, and now the demand for them is stronger than any other part of the bird.




Traditionally a lot of fine "trash" meats are ignored by the mainstream consumer culture, but are actually traditional constant staples in subcultures, occasionally "discovered" and accepted as delicacies by the mainstream later.

Also wings are great, sorry ... guess I've been brainwashed and betrayed by my tastebuds.
 
2012-05-15 01:58:38 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.


Greenpeace Releases Rescued Dolphins Into Forest

o.onionstatic.com


Tell me that doesn't make you laugh.
 
2012-05-15 02:00:06 PM
And what's more, Davis said, the most successful oil and gas companies know better than to try anything shady

This is satire on satire, right? Please say yes.
 
2012-05-15 02:00:19 PM

kingoomieiii: ArcadianRefugee: Funny: "The Onion"

No.

Greenpeace Releases Rescued Dolphins Into Forest

[o.onionstatic.com image 630x391]

Tell me that doesn't make you laugh.


It really doesn't.
 
2012-05-15 02:00:48 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Fracking is perfectly safe.

Deployment of the technology by wildcatters and the poorly trained not so much.

Focusing on the technology is a misleading substitution argument, instead of coming down like the hand of God on the miscreants who fark up the use of the technology.


Then why the special exemption from the Clean Water Act?
 
2012-05-15 02:01:42 PM

MorePeasPlease: Traditionally a lot of fine "trash" meats are ignored by the mainstream consumer culture, but are actually traditional constant staples in subcultures, occasionally "discovered" and accepted as delicacies by the mainstream later.


Oh, I actually think the popularization of wings is a good thing. It is wasteful to just make them fertilizer when it's perfectly edible.

My point, though, is that in American culture there is little correlation between the quality of a product and its demand. That you like wings is, to a marketer, merely a happy coincidence. People in general didn't grow to like wings because of any cultural enlightenment; it was a very active plan to make more money because selling them as pet food and fertilizer wasn't nearly as lucrative. This can lead to good results like less wasted food (I'd rather people eat wings than throw them away), but as long as this is the driving factor in consumerism it works against our interests the vast majority of the time.

So, nitpicking the example doesn't invalidate the point.
 
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