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(Opposing Views)   "Just because I'm a member of the Ku Klux Klan, anti-negro and anti-Jew, and want to hang sexual perpetrators without benefit of trial, doesn't mean that this would impact my performance as sheriff. Now please vote for me"   (opposingviews.com) divider line 74
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2012-05-15 10:40:58 AM  
They're just beliefs and opinions, folks. Let's not descend into thought policing.
 
2012-05-15 10:43:28 AM  
And what do you think his party affiliation is?

/he'll probably win
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-05-15 10:45:11 AM  
What's the problem? You can be sure he isn't a RINO.
It used to be that you couldn't be elected to public office unless you were a Klansman, at least in some places.
 
2012-05-15 10:45:34 AM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: And what do you think his party affiliation is?


Shaun Winkler (K)
 
2012-05-15 10:46:58 AM  
Think of the children!
 
2012-05-15 10:48:10 AM  

Diogenes: Shaun Winkler (K)


strike?

/definitely a miss of some sort
 
2012-05-15 10:54:28 AM  
Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?
 
2012-05-15 10:58:34 AM  

R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?


A few. They all hang together.
 
2012-05-15 11:00:33 AM  

Diogenes: R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?

A few. They all hang together.


It just seems for the KKK to be active there is much like the rest of the right's fear of bogeymen everywhere else. An obvious non-threat and they're gunning for it.
 
2012-05-15 11:05:45 AM  
With the limited contact I've had with the Sheriff's department in Idaho, I'd say that being a klansmen is far from being a disqualifier. Being a sociopath certainly doesn't seem to be.
 
2012-05-15 11:33:43 AM  

R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?


I've heard the stories my grandparents and their friends tell about the KKK in Kansas not having any black folk to go after, so they went after the Catholics. They don't care, they just hate.
 
2012-05-15 11:34:31 AM  
Dispatch, this is car 4. I've got a code 18-93: Negroing without a license. Request permission to taser.
 
2012-05-15 11:36:18 AM  

mitchcumstein1: R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?

I've heard the stories my grandparents and their friends tell about the KKK in Kansas not having any black folk to go after, so they went after the Catholics. They don't care, they just hate.


A friend of my brother's in grade school was from Hicktown, West Virginia, and
he said that in his old town the Klan used to go after the Irish but stopped when
they realized that the Irish would shoot back.

But, he was like 12 at the time, but it makes a good story anyway.
 
2012-05-15 11:49:25 AM  

R.A.Danny: Diogenes: R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?

A few. They all hang together.

It just seems for the KKK to be active there is much like the rest of the right's fear of bogeymen everywhere else. An obvious non-threat and they're gunning for it.


I don't think there's a rule saying you're only allowed to hate people who live near you.
 
2012-05-15 11:49:29 AM  
Winkler's opponent just released an ad calling him "too liberal for Idaho's future"

Wait...Winkler? Isn't Henry Winkler Jewish?
 
2012-05-15 11:51:22 AM  

serial_crusher: R.A.Danny: Diogenes: R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?

A few. They all hang together.

It just seems for the KKK to be active there is much like the rest of the right's fear of bogeymen everywhere else. An obvious non-threat and they're gunning for it.

I don't think there's a rule saying you're only allowed to hate people who live near you.


Yeah, but worrying about being mugged by some guy in Kiev is just silly when you're in Chicago.
 
2012-05-15 11:58:22 AM  
Thank you, Republicans! Your fringe and extremist views have made it possible for trash like this to seep out of the woodwork.
 
2012-05-15 12:03:28 PM  

Diogenes: R.A.Danny: Are there any blacks or Jew in Idaho in the first place?

A few. They all hang together.


i224.photobucket.com
 
2012-05-15 12:28:26 PM  
This a great place to sell Bat Mitzvah Pinatas!

www.personalizedpinatas.com
 
2012-05-15 12:46:23 PM  
I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?
 
2012-05-15 12:47:12 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Winkler's opponent just released an ad calling him "too liberal for Idaho's future"

Wait...Winkler? Isn't Henry Winkler Jewish?


ayyyyyyy that's not cool
 
2012-05-15 12:48:50 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?


jews are not a pure race. they are mongrels.
 
2012-05-15 12:52:18 PM  

TrollingForColumbine: Britney Spear's Speculum: I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?

jews are not a pure race. they are mongrels.


And they killed the Lord.

FTA: Winkler added that if he had his way, perpetrators of sexual crimes would be hung immediately.

www.opposingviews.com

Why do I get the feeling we will see this mug up on a sex-crimes rap someday?
 
2012-05-15 12:52:54 PM  
cache.backpackinglight.com

/North Idahonian
 
2012-05-15 12:53:55 PM  
I love that he says he won't be concerned with racial profiling, but he wants to enforce the shiat out of drug and alcohol laws.

Why the fark does he think those laws were written? (hint: it was to hassle minorities)
 
2012-05-15 12:54:34 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?


Different=bad
 
2012-05-15 12:55:07 PM  
Side note: seriously, what the fark is wrong with rural white folk? You don't see this shiat in cities.
 
2012-05-15 01:00:16 PM  
Ugh! That picture just screams a double-digit IQ.
 
2012-05-15 01:06:30 PM  

Poopspasm: Side note: seriously, what the fark is wrong with rural white folk? You don't see this shiat in cities.


Which just makes them city folk elitist.
 
2012-05-15 01:08:32 PM  

Diogenes: They're just beliefs and opinions, folks. Let's not descend into thought policing.


You did read the part about the cross burning, right? Thought and opinions are fine so long as nothing gets set on fire.
 
2012-05-15 01:14:13 PM  

AntiNerd: TrollingForColumbine: Britney Spear's Speculum: I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?

jews are not a pure race. they are mongrels.

And they killed the Lord.

FTA: Winkler added that if he had his way, perpetrators of sexual crimes would be hung immediately.

[www.opposingviews.com image 301x251]

Why do I get the feeling we will see this mug up on a sex-crimes rap someday?


Hahhhhhhh dude looks like a thumb
 
2012-05-15 01:15:00 PM  

Aracnix: Diogenes: They're just beliefs and opinions, folks. Let's not descend into thought policing.

You did read the part about the cross burning, right? Thought and opinions are fine so long as nothing gets set on fire.


FTFA: Shaun Winkler, a Republican candidate for sheriff in Kootenai County, Idaho, hosted a cross-burning last Friday at his home.

It was in his own yard. Who is he trying to intimidate, his BBQ guests?

/btw, thanks for taking the bait!
 
2012-05-15 01:16:40 PM  
Not religious, but burning a cross strikes me as sacrilege
 
2012-05-15 01:17:17 PM  
I won't read the article, but I feel safe in assuming this fine upstanding young man is a conservative Christian who, though hey may not CALL himself a Republican, always votes republican.

In any event, his professed views make him indistinguishable from every member of the tea party.
 
2012-05-15 01:18:54 PM  

mathmatix: Not religious, but burning a cross strikes me as sacrilege


Of all the religious hypocrisy, that one ranks real low on my scale.

My favorite religious hypocrisy in current practice is killing abortion doctors to save lives.
 
2012-05-15 01:21:44 PM  
Sheriff Joe?.
 
2012-05-15 01:21:53 PM  
OMG, the comments are gold, Jerry, GOLD.

Submitted by beowulf32 on May 11, 2012.

And i bet your liberal`s that voted for obama am i right, if not excuse the rest of this comment. Any one that voted for obama also voted for one of the most racist members of louis farrakhan klan, that has called for the death of all white people and jews. I dont agree with the kkk but,what i do have for all the white people out there that are quick to condem some one for sticking up for are people read this below.

Warning for Americans A Message from a South African By Robbie Noel People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay* rights movement). Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country. America's structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character. Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability. But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life. That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen. Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace." Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was peace of the grave for our society. The Third World is different -- different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe -- once thriving, stable Rhodesia -- is looting the very people (the white men) who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion. Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm. It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace. White South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you. We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad (not least from the U.S.A.), unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the ,"love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history. The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school protégés. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obfuscate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man." Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors. From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a soft lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice. A television program aired in South Africa showed a town meeting in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Whites who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the whites simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel. In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings -- as in Zimbabwe? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned. What will you do when the future nonwhite majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white men who helped make your country what it is ? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language? Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa," the first targets were our national symbols". In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; "the revolutionization of your justice system". In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murders end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine. What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches? Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today. Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses -- like the need to overcome generations of white racism -- will be found to exonerate the guilty. In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender. When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friend, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago. Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned. What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side. Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again. Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weakness and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents. To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail. Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jefferson and Washington, and your Constitution. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your status. And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will. They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well. They know what to do. Do you? "When the Cambrian measures were forming, they promised perpetual peace, They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease. But when we disarmed they sold us and delivered us bound to our foe!
 
mhd
2012-05-15 01:36:44 PM  
TFA: Shaun Winkler, a Republican candidate for sheriff in Kootenai County, Idaho, hosted a cross-burning last Friday at his home.

There's no party like an Idaho party...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-05-15 01:37:05 PM  
*me before article*

"This guy is a Republican....."

*reads article*

"Easy."
 
2012-05-15 01:43:33 PM  
Isn't this the county where Aryan Nations is headquartered?
 
2012-05-15 01:56:28 PM  

Diogenes: They're just beliefs and opinions, folks. Let's not descend into thought policing.


Well, there is THIS: Winkler added that if he had his way, perpetrators of sexual crimes would be hung immediately.

I just want to know where you stand on a Sheriff who doesn't want to follow the rule of law?
 
2012-05-15 02:03:24 PM  

Mikey1969: Diogenes: They're just beliefs and opinions, folks. Let's not descend into thought policing.

Well, there is THIS: Winkler added that if he had his way, perpetrators of sexual crimes would be hung immediately.

I just want to know where you stand on a Sheriff who doesn't want to follow the rule of law?


Reread thread and adjust sarcasm meter.

But for the record, many people in position of authority or high office hold personal beliefs counter to the constraints of office and/or the law, and still act within those constraints.

Do I think this guy could? Probably not. But there are those who can and do.

Watch yourself on the thought policing slippery slope, though. This guy's clearly a racist idiot. But where is that line drawn?
 
2012-05-15 02:06:49 PM  
Dammit, these A-Holes have to stink up the most beautiful part of a wonderfully scenic state... Idaho is awesome, and the Couer D'Alene area is the nicest part of the state, but thanks to these pricks, everyone just assumes that it is all racists up there.
 
2012-05-15 02:24:29 PM  

Diogenes: Watch yourself on the thought policing slippery slope, though. This guy's clearly a racist idiot. But where is that line drawn?


That's the problem though... How racist do they have to be before they start letting at affect how they do their job? Will they ignore crimes by Whites, profile Blacks and Jews, beat minorities in the jails, etc.? Hell, look at the issues with Arpaio, and I don't think he's as racist as this douchebag is. It ends up being a slippery slope no matter how you approach the issue, which really makes things fun. Really though, I'd have no problem with a racist in law enforcement if I knew I could trust them to actually do the job fairly....
 
2012-05-15 02:25:42 PM  

Mikey1969: Dammit, these A-Holes have to stink up the most beautiful part of a wonderfully scenic state... Idaho is awesome, and the Couer D'Alene area is the nicest part of the state, but thanks to these pricks, everyone just assumes that it is all racists up there.


Actually I stayed in Northern Idaho for a few days on a road trip with some friends. We were kind of just living out of our car and tents as we meandered across the country. I remember Northern Idaho for being one of the more beautiful places and the people were really, really friendly to a bunch of young slakers loitering around. We were however, on one of the Indian Reservations, so that might be why we didn't run into any of the knuckle draggers. Anyways Idaho's Seven Devils is gorgeous if any farker is looking for a cool place to camp/hike. Though if you are afraid of heights, I'd avoid.
 
2012-05-15 02:26:19 PM  
So, when do we find out about his love child by his drug-addled black Jewish 15-year-old girlfriend?
 
2012-05-15 02:34:13 PM  
He continued to insist his Ku Klux Klan ties would not impact his performance as sheriff or make him susceptible to racial profiling. Instead, he would focus on tough stances regarding drugs and alcohol.

Being susceptible to racial profiling might mean you have had few experiences with other populations or had a particularly negative experience which replays when you see a person of similar skin tone. You would actively seek to profile racially, not fall into it by accident.
 
2012-05-15 02:36:30 PM  

Mikey1969: Diogenes: Watch yourself on the thought policing slippery slope, though. This guy's clearly a racist idiot. But where is that line drawn?

That's the problem though... How racist do they have to be before they start letting at affect how they do their job? Will they ignore crimes by Whites, profile Blacks and Jews, beat minorities in the jails, etc.? Hell, look at the issues with Arpaio, and I don't think he's as racist as this douchebag is. It ends up being a slippery slope no matter how you approach the issue, which really makes things fun. Really though, I'd have no problem with a racist in law enforcement if I knew I could trust them to actually do the job fairly....


I guess the best we can do is listen to them, make our personal judgments on whether or not we believe they can fulfill the duties of office, and vote accordingly.

In a sense, this guy is doing us all a favor by laying it all out on the table for all to see.
 
2012-05-15 02:47:07 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: I don't get the anti-Jew part of the KKK. Don't white supremacists like jesus and believe all that Israel crap? Or is the Hitler stuff take precedence over the religious aspects?


A lot of them subscribe to "Christian Identity" beliefs. Basically, white Europeans are descended from the lost tribes of Israel while modern Jews are actually descended from Turkic Khazars, and are therefore not God's chosen people. Also, salvation is limited to whites, everyone else is farked.
 
2012-05-15 02:50:49 PM  

Diogenes: In a sense, this guy is doing us all a favor by laying it all out on the table for all to see.


Good point... I wouldn't vote for him, but that's just because I don't like closed-minded bigots. If he wasn't bragging about being a racist things might be different, but yeah, it could be some kind of surprise that nobody knows about until it's too late...
 
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