Both sides are bad? Who shall I ever vote for??

thismomentinblackhistory: Another gay headline? I'm so tired of this I could just gay shoot myself.

FTFY, buddy.

Slives: Politics in the future won't be about anything BUT wedge issues. People will vote based on a few key items and ignore or overlook everything else.
Things like the economy, national debt and national security will become minor playing points as they are too big and too complex for most Americans to understand clearly. But items like gay marriage, abortion, drug laws and things like that will become what people make their choices on.


Future? Hell, the do that now!

We should ban gay marriage by amending the constitution. All these states amending their constitutions are following their good Christian values. And, Obama is a lying politician for talking about what we are doing.

TL:DR version: stop using our tactics against us!

coeyagi: I can see the comparison.

One group wanted to deny people rights.

The other group wanted to grant people rights.

I cannot see the comparison.

That's what I came here to say.

How dare Obama try to distract us from the relevant issues of this campaign by talking about equal rights for all Americans.

When did Romney sign NOM's pledge again?

The GOP's platform of fear and intolerance isn't working anymore, nor should it. As soon as they purge their ranks of bible pounders and social "conservatives" I'll come back to their camp. Small government =/= legislating my beliefs or my sex life...and guess what, I care more about that than the fiscal solvency of the country.

Classic GOP. Hit someone hard, then claim bullying when they hit back.

Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

Cuz we're really working 24/7 on those problems. No time to address equal rights. Nope!

Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

Congress must think we're out of problems the way they schedule their vacations.

Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

Mugato: thurstonxhowell: Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

I support gay marriage. I'm saying that I think there are bigger issues like the half dozen countries we're on the verge of going to war with that are more pressing and no one seems to talk about.

If everyone would stop being cocks it would literally take 5 minutes to change it

2012: Republicans forget that they are the ones creating the wedge issue.

So, resisting attempts to circumvent equal protection under the Constitution is considered "divisive"? If Republicans think that is divisive then why don't they make some compromises so the dialogue on jobs and economy can move forward? Or, should everyone else just be beholden to their narrow-minded opinions and let them set the agendas in perpetuity?

FTFA They found it in Massachusetts, whose Supreme Judicial Court in 2003 had asserted a statewide right to gay marriage

It started right in his own state.

So let's see. Romney gave Massachusetts universal healthcare AND gay marriage...

Mugato: thurstonxhowell: Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

I support gay marriage. I'm saying that I think there are bigger issues like the half dozen countries we're on the verge of going to war with that are more pressing and no one seems to talk about.

Lots of people are still talking about that. Lots of people are still talking about the economy. The country didn't just grind to a halt and decide to think about only that. Sure, it's making a lot of noise, but there's always something making a lot of noise.

Mugato: I'm saying that it's not the only thing we need to talk about.

Good. Since no one has said that it is the only thing we need to talk about, you should be able to stop pretending like that's your argument.

What you're actually saying is that we're too busy to talk about it at all.

Mugato: thurstonxhowell: Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

I support gay marriage. I'm saying that I think there are bigger issues like the half dozen countries we're on the verge of going to war with that are more pressing and no one seems to talk about.

Once all these problems that are having a greater impact on me and the rest of the straight white males are solved, we can start worrying about your little civil rights issues

Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.


GOP obsession with cock is well documented. It's not the liberals' fault they would rather cock talk than created job-creating legislation in the House.

created

magusdevil: Once all these problems that are having a greater impact on me and the rest of the straight white males are solved, we can start worrying about your little civil rights issues

It's adorable that you guys want to get married, and I'm just heartbroken that you can't, but I think it's more important that everyone spend every second of their time talking about what I believe to be important. It's important to our country that you talk to your co-workers about Iran despite that fact that none of you could possibly be an expert on the situation. It's a waste of time to talk about gay marriage. Just tell your nephew that he and his boyfriend will have to wait until the normals are living idyllic, carefree lives for their rights to matter.

Lost Thought 00: What isn't a wedge issue? If it's not a wedge issue, that means no one disagrees on it, and therefore it isn't an issue

Yes, though some issues require more discourse than others before people agree or disagree with the associated policy and ideas.

Wedge issues require no discourse -- you simply mention "ENTITLEMENTS!" during a debate and suddenly everyone has an opinion. Social security lock boxes, on the other hand, are not a wedge issue.

Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

I'm so glad that you think equal rights for all Americans isn't a real problem.

It sure lets me know that you are a real American.

Serious Black: thismomentinblackhistory: Another gay headline? I'm so tired of this I could just gay shoot myself.

FTFY, buddy.

Why am I laughing at this....?

Cornyn declared gay marriage an economic issue:

We know from some of the social experimentation that's occurred in Scandinavia and elsewhere that when same-sex couples can legally marry, that essentially what happens is people quit getting married across the board, and more people raise children outside of marriage at higher risk for a whole host of social ills, placing additional burdens on the government and the taxpayers that support that government.

Hey, Cornyn! FARK YOU!

Mugato: thurstonxhowell: Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

I support gay marriage. I'm saying that I think there are bigger issues like the half dozen countries we're on the verge of going to war with that are more pressing and no one seems to talk about.

Ya, see the problem is that the GOP is actively going out of their way to ban it within their state constitutions. This kind of makes it a pressing matter. The same folks that are beating drums to start wars in other countries to help them get freedom are the ones that are trying to limit our freedoms at home. The GOP loves 2 front wars.

HeartBurnKid: Classic GOP. Hit someone hard, then claim bullying when they hit back.

Holding a kid down and cutting his hair off because you don't think he should have his hair styled that way = harmless school prank

Calling a mass walkout during your speech "pansyassed" because they don't like you challenging their beliefs = OMG WHAT A BULLY DID YOU SEE HIM BULLY THOSE POOR KIDS WHAT A BULLY BULLY BULLY!!!!

This is what Republicans actually believe.

vrax: Cornyn declared gay marriage an economic issue:

We know from some of the social experimentation that's occurred in Scandinavia and elsewhere that when same-sex couples can legally marry, that essentially what happens is people quit getting married across the board, and more people raise children outside of marriage at higher risk for a whole host of social ills, placing additional burdens on the government and the taxpayers that support that government.

Hey, Cornyn! FARK YOU!

Ha. That made me RTFA. Would I be asking a stupid question if I asked what evidence he provided of that claim? The answer is none and that's a stupid question, right?

magusdevil: Mugato: thurstonxhowell: Mugato: Maybe when we run out of real problems in this country we can obsess about gay marriage.

So no gay marriage, ever, then? That sure would make the GOP happy.

I support gay marriage. I'm saying that I think there are bigger issues like the half dozen countries we're on the verge of going to war with that are more pressing and no one seems to talk about.

Once all these problems that are having a greater impact on me and the rest of the straight white males are solved, we can start worrying about your little civil rights issues

I agree with him in a way. A lot of people now think of gay marriage on its own as a dealbreaker issue, and while I think there's no question that gay marriage deserves support, I don't think it's as big an issue as its made out to be. In theory I could support an opponent of gay marriage over a proponent if the opponent was better on other issues. Realistically, opposing it is very indicative that you have your values in the wrong place.
It's really just that while legalization would be a civil rights victory, I don't think it would be significant for giving gays more freedom. I think it would be significant as a triumph over nonsensical ideals that have been ingrained in our culture, as an example that stupid ideas can be purged regardless of how long they've been around for.

thurstonxhowell: vrax: Cornyn declared gay marriage an economic issue:

We know from some of the social experimentation that's occurred in Scandinavia and elsewhere that when same-sex couples can legally marry, that essentially what happens is people quit getting married across the board, and more people raise children outside of marriage at higher risk for a whole host of social ills, placing additional burdens on the government and the taxpayers that support that government.

Hey, Cornyn! FARK YOU!

Ha. That made me RTFA. Would I be asking a stupid question if I asked what evidence he provided of that claim? The answer is none and that's a stupid question, right?

Yeah, I was thinking that's from the "Mostly Pulled Out Of Ass" department.