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2012-05-15 01:06:17 PM  
Yeah, lets not put the guy in charge who made his millions looting the retirement accounts of employees and putting their companies into bankruptcy.

Under Obama, the unemployment rate is down, the dow is up, jobs are up, and we are recovering at a steady pace. Romney would be a disaster.
 
2012-05-15 01:07:26 PM  

Mentat: FlashHarry: cameroncrazy1984: Is the Freep mod on an early shift today?

jesus, no shiat!

They aren't even trying anymore.


I don't think they were ever trying to hide it. They just finally got good at it.
 
2012-05-15 01:08:24 PM  
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Looks like a Lose Lose situatiom to me.
 
2012-05-15 01:11:48 PM  

thurstonxhowell: SurfaceTension: allowing people to withdraw, tax free, cash from their 401k's

Wait, why? It didn't get taxed when I put it in and you don't want to tax it when it comes out? That'd be great for my finances as I put in the absolute maximum contribution tax-free and then take it out immediately tax-free, but how would it help the country? I've got to be missing something.


The funds would have to be applied toward a business start-up.
 
2012-05-15 01:13:52 PM  

Mentat: FlashHarry: cameroncrazy1984: Is the Freep mod on an early shift today?

jesus, no shiat!

They aren't even trying anymore.


Oh, did the 9 to 1 liberal to conservative article ratio upset you?
 
2012-05-15 01:14:59 PM  
Excellent, Smithers! Indignant Farkie Lib Clique exasperated and scratching their lice-infested hair out of frustration! Meanwhile, the latest polls show the country trusts Rommney more with the economy by double digits, and Obama is losing his women voters too! And if you bitterly demand citations, YOU can look at the latest polls. Delectable!
 
2012-05-15 01:15:26 PM  

SurfaceTension: thurstonxhowell: SurfaceTension: allowing people to withdraw, tax free, cash from their 401k's

Wait, why? It didn't get taxed when I put it in and you don't want to tax it when it comes out? That'd be great for my finances as I put in the absolute maximum contribution tax-free and then take it out immediately tax-free, but how would it help the country? I've got to be missing something.

The funds would have to be applied toward a business start-up.


Like that's not exploitable.
 
2012-05-15 01:17:32 PM  

Friction8r: Excellent, Smithers! Indignant Farkie Lib Clique exasperated and scratching their lice-infested hair out of frustration! Meanwhile, the latest polls show the country trusts Rommney more with the economy by double digits, and Obama is losing his women voters too! And if you bitterly demand citations, YOU can look at the latest polls. Delectable!


6/10. You'll get some nibbles.
 
2012-05-15 01:18:06 PM  
This is Obama's economy...
yglesias.thinkprogress.org

If you say so...
tonenwilmainohio.com

GDP performance during the Obama Administration has gone into positive growth.
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US stock markets performance during the Obama Administration...
DOW in 01/20/2009: 7,949.09
DOW in 05/14/2012: 12,695.35
Rate of Return: 59.71%

S&P 500 in 01/20/2009: 805.22
S&P 500 in 05/14/2012: 1,338.35
Rate of Return: 66.21%

NASDAQ in 01/20/2009: 1,440.86
NASDAQ in 05/14/2012: 2,902.58
Rate of Return: 101.45%


Private jobs hemorrhage slowed down during the Obama Administration and eventually went into positive territory.
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Unemployment rate has been trending down now during the Obama Administration.

One year trend...
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During the Obama Administration...
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Read all about it...

Private-sector job growth biggest in 3 years (new window)

Stealth signs of a stronger job market (new window)

Biggest unemployment rate improvement in nearly 28 years (new window)

Small businesses ramp up jobs (new window)

Jobs: 2 hopeful signs (new window)

The unemployment rate fell to 8.3%. That is the lowest since February 2009 (new window)

Stealth jobs boom: 6 months, 2 million jobs (new window)

Jobless claims plunged last week to a nearly four-year low (new window)

If you are unemployed or underemployed, you don't have a 4 year degree (or higher) and blame Obama for your situation, then maybe you should get a college degree. It is not the Gov's fault you don't have the necessary skills to compete in today's world. The Gov can even help you pay for it (via loans, grants, GI Bill etc).
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Average weekly paychecks have improved.
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Inflation has not gone up.
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Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took office. This was a rooted fear from Tea Partiers. Take a look at a Forbes article written by Bruce Bartlett, a self-described fiscal conservative...
Forbes: Tea partiers confused, taxes 'lower by every measure' under Obama (Cutting to a new window)
 
2012-05-15 01:21:11 PM  

SurfaceTension: My only complaint about how Obama has handled "the economy" is that while he's done a lot to help homeowners, and car industry (clunkers for cash), what I haven't seen is the administration going out of its way to make it easier for people to start their own businesses. I'm not talking about helping current businesses, but rather extending government guarantees for start-up business loans; allowing people to withdraw, tax free, cash from their 401k's; incentives to banks to allow low or no collateral business loans. That sort of thing would have been great to see from this administration.


You can already borrow against your 401k tax free at very low rates. Withdrawing from your 401k tax free would make 401ks a giant easily abused tax shelter. Don't want to pay SS or income tax? Put it all into your 401k, then withdrawal it later!
 
2012-05-15 01:23:07 PM  

Friction8r: Excellent, Smithers! Indignant Farkie Lib Clique exasperated and scratching their lice-infested hair out of frustration! Meanwhile, the latest polls show the country trusts Rommney more with the economy by double digits, and Obama is losing his women voters too! And if you bitterly demand citations, YOU can look at the latest polls. Delectable!


You're trying too hard.

/i s'pose that's an improvement - most of the righties aren't trying at all
 
2012-05-15 01:23:16 PM  

SurfaceTension: thurstonxhowell: SurfaceTension: allowing people to withdraw, tax free, cash from their 401k's

Wait, why? It didn't get taxed when I put it in and you don't want to tax it when it comes out? That'd be great for my finances as I put in the absolute maximum contribution tax-free and then take it out immediately tax-free, but how would it help the country? I've got to be missing something.

The funds would have to be applied toward a business start-up.


Ah. I knew I was missing something. I would agree with that, though I would suggest that there we just waive the early withdrawal penalty and keep the taxes. AFAIK, that's how it works if you use the 401k to get funds for the down payment on your first home.

That would definitely make it a lot easier on high-tech workers to start small shops.
 
2012-05-15 01:25:23 PM  

hugram: This is Obama's economy...


How dare you throw in a bunch of facts and graphs in a political thread!? You should know better!.

/No Guinness towel for you!
 
2012-05-15 01:25:40 PM  
Digadigadigadigadigadigadigadiga 21st!
 
2012-05-15 01:27:38 PM  

hugram: Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took office. This was a rooted fear from Tea Partiers. Take a look at a Forbes article written by Bruce Bartlett, a self-described fiscal conservative...
Forbes: Tea partiers confused, taxes 'lower by every measure' under Obama (Cutting to a new window)


You do know that it isn't 2010 anymore right?
 
2012-05-15 01:29:19 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: hugram: Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took office. This was a rooted fear from Tea Partiers. Take a look at a Forbes article written by Bruce Bartlett, a self-described fiscal conservative...
Forbes: Tea partiers confused, taxes 'lower by every measure' under Obama (Cutting to a new window)

You do know that it isn't 2010 anymore right?


Have your taxes higher now?
 
2012-05-15 01:30:22 PM  

hugram: tenpoundsofcheese: hugram: Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took office. This was a rooted fear from Tea Partiers. Take a look at a Forbes article written by Bruce Bartlett, a self-described fiscal conservative...
Forbes: Tea partiers confused, taxes 'lower by every measure' under Obama (Cutting to a new window)

You do know that it isn't 2010 anymore right?

Have your taxes higher now?


Are your taxes higher now?

FTFM
 
2012-05-15 01:30:23 PM  

ToxicMunkee: I remember when Bush was president and I got my ass reamed because "omg, the president doesn't have control over the price of gas or the economy!"

But here we are, with Obama being blamed for not lowering gas prices or fixing the economy.


Oddly enough, starting a war in the Middle East actually can fark up the price of energy and therefore the economy. I don't remember if that the criticism of Bush at the time.
 
2012-05-15 01:31:13 PM  
It's gonna be a summer of WHARRGBLL butt-hurt, isn't it?
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LIBTARDS!! LIBTARDS!! LIIIIIIIIBTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARDS!!
 
2012-05-15 01:31:18 PM  
This is going to be a very election. While Romney is out there pounding away on the state of the economy, Obama is doing everything he can to avoid the issue that matters the most. And his surrogates are trying to argue that the economy is doing just great under Obama - forget the fact that GDP growth is weak. Never mind the chronic unemployment and the even worse labor participation rate! Let's talk about gay marriage and dogs and a "war on women!"

No wonder the polls are not looking good for Obama... when the NYT/CBS poll has Romney leading, that's got to have the Obama campaign on edge. And the way they're acting suggests they've got internal polling that looks even worse.

It's right that Romney doesn't have this election in the bag - not by a long shot. Romney has a couple of paths to winning, all of which will require both a lot of political skill and some luck. But right now the way the Obama campaign is floundering about trying to latch onto some workable narrative shows that they're in trouble.

But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...
 
2012-05-15 01:31:24 PM  

I_C_Weener: ToxicMunkee: I remember when Bush was president and I got my ass reamed because "omg, the president doesn't have control over the price of gas or the economy!"

But here we are, with Obama being blamed for not lowering gas prices or fixing the economy.

Recent article using that as the example for how people think about politics in much the same way a 4 year old thinks about their parent. And attack on any part of their political party is an attack on all!!! Facts don't matter. Political identification is purely emotional. NPR did a story on it recently, but the studies have been around for awhile.


Don't worry, if things continue on their current trajectory the economy will be much improved by this fall and gas prices should be lower, and then I'm sure that the President will have no control over those things and how dare Obama take credit.
 
2012-05-15 01:32:54 PM  

WombatControl: This is going to be a very election. While Romney is out there pounding away on the state of the economy, Obama is doing everything he can to avoid the issue that matters the most. And his surrogates are trying to argue that the economy is doing just great under Obama - forget the fact that GDP growth is weak. Never mind the chronic unemployment and the even worse labor participation rate! Let's talk about gay marriage and dogs and a "war on women!"

No wonder the polls are not looking good for Obama... when the NYT/CBS poll has Romney leading, that's got to have the Obama campaign on edge. And the way they're acting suggests they've got internal polling that looks even worse.

It's right that Romney doesn't have this election in the bag - not by a long shot. Romney has a couple of paths to winning, all of which will require both a lot of political skill and some luck. But right now the way the Obama campaign is floundering about trying to latch onto some workable narrative shows that they're in trouble.

But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...


Do facts actually physically hurt you?
 
2012-05-15 01:34:30 PM  

WombatControl: But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...


Alright then, tell me what exactly Romney plans to do to fix the economy that isn't essentially doubling down on Bush's economic policies?
 
2012-05-15 01:35:23 PM  

Mrtraveler01: WombatControl: But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...

Alright then, tell me what exactly Romney plans to do to fix the economy that isn't essentially doubling down on Bush's economic policies?


The opposite, of course!
 
2012-05-15 01:36:09 PM  

CygnusDarius: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

How dare you throw in a bunch of facts and graphs in a political thread!? You should know better!.

/No Guinness towel for you!


My reaction as well - the sad thing is that pushing stark reality into the faces of emotion-driven chuckleheads is a futile gesture. They "feel" that things have gotten worse, so they've gotten worse, despite the simple reality that things have, actually, improved steadily.

You cannot appeal to the reason of such folks. You must figure out a way to appeal to their emotion. And, let's face it, the folks most driven by emotion right now are too far gone in their confusion, anger, and hate to redeem - they're over the edge and into the abyss.
 
2012-05-15 01:37:11 PM  

WombatControl: This is going to be a very election. While Romney is out there pounding away on the state of the economy, Obama is doing everything he can to avoid the issue that matters the most. And his surrogates are trying to argue that the economy is doing just great under Obama - forget the fact that GDP growth is weak. Never mind the chronic unemployment and the even worse labor participation rate! Let's talk about gay marriage and dogs and a "war on women!"

No wonder the polls are not looking good for Obama... when the NYT/CBS poll has Romney leading, that's got to have the Obama campaign on edge. And the way they're acting suggests they've got internal polling that looks even worse.

It's right that Romney doesn't have this election in the bag - not by a long shot. Romney has a couple of paths to winning, all of which will require both a lot of political skill and some luck. But right now the way the Obama campaign is floundering about trying to latch onto some workable narrative shows that they're in trouble.

But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...


A classic example of what I was talking about in my previous post.
 
2012-05-15 01:39:05 PM  

WombatControl: Obama is doing everything he can to avoid the issue that matters the most.


What a weird thing to say in response to an article about how Obama was talking about the economy and thinks that the economy will decide the next election.
 
2012-05-15 01:39:09 PM  

hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...

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What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon


Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?
 
2012-05-15 01:39:50 PM  
Conservative to care about the economy in 3...2...1
 
2012-05-15 01:43:01 PM  

thurstonxhowell: What a weird thing to say in response to an article about how Obama was talking about the economy and thinks that the economy will decide the next election.


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oh
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It's the same concern troll as "Obama can't run on his accomplishments". Never mind the goddamn short film they released that lays out the first three years of Obama's accomplishments courtesy of Tom Hanks.

But Obama is dooooooooooooooomed!
 
2012-05-15 01:43:07 PM  

YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
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What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?


The really hilarious part about your rant is the part where you ignore the gas prices from before the recession that are even higher than they are now.
 
2012-05-15 01:44:07 PM  

cman: fark you, America

You all know that I am not a fan of Obama. But, at the same time, I won't blame Obama for shiat he has no real control over. There are millions of pieces in this finely crafted device called the economy. The President is a bolt holding the driver side door onto the frame.

If you are gonna vote against Obama, then do it for actual real reasons, not some made up shiat of whom you can scapegoat easily.


So beautiful it brought tears to my eyes. But where were you back when we were handing almost a trillion dollars to the president to fix the economy? All we got was a more secure passenger door? And even that's questionable because I can still hear a rattling.
 
2012-05-15 01:44:23 PM  
Guess we'll see how it all turns out in November... But if I were Romney, I wouldn't be measuring the windows of the White House for new drapes just yet. He seems to have as many, if not more, vulnerabilities than Obama and Romney's really not a likable character by any stretch of the imagination.
 
2012-05-15 01:45:06 PM  
www.faithandfinance.org

can't wait for romney to bring this back.
 
2012-05-15 01:45:36 PM  

YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
===========================

What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?


What do you mean by "real voters"? Because from the context of your post I am guessing you mean freepers and asshats without a clue.
 
2012-05-15 01:45:54 PM  
"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"

*takes a brief pause* Why yes. Yes I am better off today than I was four years ago. Thanks for asking.
 
2012-05-15 01:46:45 PM  

birchman: YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
===========================

What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?

The really hilarious part about your rant is the part where you ignore the gas prices from before the recession that are even higher than they are now.


Just as hilarious as comparing the stock market price on Jan 20, 2009 to today's price and ignoring it's previous high under Bush.

You foghats don't get to own AND eat the cake too.
 
2012-05-15 01:46:46 PM  
Obama is an incumbent president and he didn't have a major primary challenger. He's almost certainly going to win re-election. Sorry cons.
 
2012-05-15 01:47:06 PM  

SlothB77: [www.faithandfinance.org image 640x471]

can't wait for romney to bring this back.


It's at it's worst point since a Republican was president, therefore we should vote for a Republican for president.

/SlothB77 logic
 
2012-05-15 01:47:49 PM  

YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
===========================

What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?


why don't you ride a bike, to the library? show a little consumer backbone.
 
2012-05-15 01:47:54 PM  

YELLOL: I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?


You do know that federal gas taxes are a fixed per gallon amount (18.4 cents) and not a percentage of the price, right?
 
2012-05-15 01:49:24 PM  

YELLOL: birchman: YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
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What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?

The really hilarious part about your rant is the part where you ignore the gas prices from before the recession that are even higher than they are now.

Just as hilarious as comparing the stock market price on Jan 20, 2009 to today's price and ignoring it's previous high under Bush.

You foghats don't get to own AND eat the cake too.


So you agree that your gas analogy is ridiculous then? Or do you think that the stock market claim is valid? Which one is it?
 
2012-05-15 01:49:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: WombatControl: But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...

Alright then, tell me what exactly Romney plans to do to fix the economy that isn't essentially doubling down on Bush's economic policies?


What we need to restore the economy is to reduce the burden of government. That means tax reform, regulatory reform, and entitlement reform.

Look at the state of the economy. Consumer spending isn't what's keeping us in recession. That rebounded to pre-recession levels two years ago and has been steady ever since. Government spending isn't the problem, that's also increased dramatically. What is the problem? Private investment is still dramatically down. What will restore private investment? A better investment climate - one with fewer regulatory and tax risks, rules that are clear and enforced on a consistent basis, and one where long-term investments can have reasonable rates of return. We don't have that now. Companies are sitting on capital because the long-term risks are too great to justify spending right now. Until that changes, the economy will continue to limp along rather than picking up steam.

And the longer the economy remains weak, the worse off we are. Short-term unemployment is bad. Long-term unemployment is disastrous. Workers who are out of the job market over the long-term become essentially unemployable - we are facing a "lost generation" because of this President's policies, especially among those first starting out. Half of college graduates are finding that the bottom rungs on the job ladder are missing - and if they can't get their careers started now their personal and professional development will suffer for the rest of their lives. That's absolutely unacceptable, and the President would rather talk about gay marriage and contraception than face the reality of where this economy is.

Even if all Romney does is prevent government from growing at the rate it has, that will help immensely. What we really need to do is what Canada did in the early 1990s - massively cut government and get the debt under control. (Oddly enough, it was the liberal Jean Chretien that did that - and what he did makes the Ryan Budget look tame in comparison.) Chretien cut budgets on an average of 20%, and not just by cutting the rate of growth, but real cuts of substance.

If we got half that - cutting the actual size of government by 10% along with regulatory reform and simplification of the tax code, we'd start seeing some real growth again.

It's not that difficult - we can't fund government at 25% of GDP, maintain entitlement spending, and have economic growth in this country. We have to start making the tough choices now.

Romney isn't perfect, but he's had a record of making tough calls before and restoring failing organizations to health. That's what this country needs right now, and if Romney can make that case he'll win.
 
2012-05-15 01:51:18 PM  
People don't vote on social issues. They look at their pantries and wallets before they vote.

And yes, your leader has quite a degree of control and responsibility over how well the economy runs in his policy making and appointing.

If things were going well, you bet your sweet bippy he'd be taking credit for it, but I guess the days of a man taking full responsibility are long over with the last few generations (doesn't make it less true though).
 
2012-05-15 01:52:57 PM  

birchman: YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
===========================

What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?

The really hilarious part about your rant is the part where you ignore the gas prices from before the recession that are even higher than they are now.


That is because Bush fixed it.
0bama then screwed it up.
 
2012-05-15 01:53:23 PM  

WombatControl: Mrtraveler01: WombatControl: But yeah, Obama surrogates, keep telling the country how lucky they are to live in a country where the government is mortgaging our children's future to pay for programs that haven't reduced unemployment to anywhere near pre-recession levels - I'm sure that will really go over well...

Alright then, tell me what exactly Romney plans to do to fix the economy that isn't essentially doubling down on Bush's economic policies?

wall of derp


So now that you've explained at length what YOU would do, why don't you answer the original question and tell us what Romney has said HE specifically will do.
 
2012-05-15 01:53:27 PM  

Mrtraveler01: SlothB77: [www.faithandfinance.org image 640x471]

can't wait for romney to bring this back.

It's at it's worst point since a Republican was president, therefore we should vote for a Republican for president.

/SlothB77 logic


It doesn't matter where the misery index is. All Romney has to do is say misery index. He should cite the value for the misery index every day. No one really has a frame of reference to compare the value to because it isn't used anymore. But it plants the seed in voters minds that there is misery that exists. They will assume that whatever value it is at now is inherently high and miserable. Voters in November will go into the voting booth 'well damn, the economy is so bad they had to break out the ol' misery index just to show how bad it is.' Then that guy votes for Rmoney.
 
2012-05-15 01:54:07 PM  

YELLOL: red5ish: YELLOL: hugram: This is Obama's economy...

hugram's derp snipped

Your taxes have not gone up since Obama took ...
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What a load of libtard crap.

Here's some real numbers that mean something to real voters:

average gasoline price january 20, 2009 $1.898/gallon
average gasoline price may 15, 2012 $3.814/gallon

Not my website but these numbers seem about right. Link

I wonder how much of this increased gasoline price translates into taxes that didn't go up? You do know there are federal taxes on retail gasoline purchases, right?

What do you mean by "real voters"? Because from the context of your post I am guessing you mean freepers and asshats without a clue.

Real voters might be people who have to buy gasoline on their way to work. I dunno, just a guess, you fargin numbskull libtard.


Their gas taxes went up 0.0 cents.
 
2012-05-15 01:54:41 PM  

WombatControl: Romney isn't perfect, but he's had a record of making tough calls before and restoring failing organizations to health. That's what this country needs right now, and if Romney can make that case he'll win.


Are you sure we're talking about the same Romney?

The one I know flip-flops so fast he can create energy. The guy has no backbone and will always sway to whatever the popular thought of the day is with the conservative movement.
 
2012-05-15 01:55:27 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: That is because Bush fixed it.
0bama then screwed it up.


So Obama just has to create an even bigger recession than the one in 2008.

Brilliant plan there cheese. Your posts continue to be the intellectual backbone of fark.
 
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