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2012-05-15 09:59:10 AM
Which is odd, as this year's semifinals were mostly boring. But also devoid of Canadian teams, which means more American viewers from the cities with teams participating. Including the two largest media markets in the country.
 
2012-05-15 10:01:42 AM
Well yeah when you have zero Canadian teams in the Conference Finals and have the two largest TV markets in the country (NYC and LA). I bet Bettman did it again.
 
2012-05-15 10:05:49 AM
USA USA USA USA
 
2012-05-15 10:05:55 AM
If the fairytale run of the Phoenix Coyotes doesn't spark interest and turn that team around financially, I don't want them moving to another city, I want that entire franchise nuked from orbit.

Like it never even happened.
 
2012-05-15 10:13:57 AM
You have had some very large markets (Philly, NY, NJ, LA, DC, STL), mixed in with some non tradditional markets that would draw people who otherwise wouldn't watch. Not that most of the games were great hockey, especially the damned PHI\NJ series, but overall it was stacked pretty well to draw ratings.

Plus with the tv deal, the average person being able to watch all of the games in a series without a special package doesn't hurt in getting them involved with it.
 
2012-05-15 10:14:02 AM
The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.
 
2012-05-15 10:15:14 AM

Doc Daneeka: The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.


The coverage, yea, but where the fark is CNBC on my dial and why is it not in HD?
 
2012-05-15 10:19:53 AM
Ok, great that the NHL is making waves with television ratings....

BUT

Afternoon playoff games suck. And there have been far too many of them this year.

A couple of Saturdays ago the only game that day was Rangers/Capitals and it started at 10:30am local time.

F*ck that. It should have been an evening game.
 
2012-05-15 10:22:53 AM
WCF Game 1 drew a 5.56 in Phoenix?!?

I never thought we'd see numbers that high in Phoenix, no matter how far they advanced, at least for a while.

If they can capture some of these bandwagoners and sell some season tickets for next year and beyond, maybe there is some hope for that franchise.
 
2012-05-15 10:24:28 AM

Doc Daneeka: If they can capture some of these bandwagoners and sell some season tickets for next year and beyond, maybe there is some hope for that franchise.


Absolutely.

But like I said, if this can't turn Phoenix around, nothing will.
 
2012-05-15 10:24:52 AM

Doc Daneeka: WCF Game 1 drew a 5.56 in Phoenix?!?

I never thought we'd see numbers that high in Phoenix, no matter how far they advanced, at least for a while.

If they can capture some of these bandwagoners and sell some season tickets for next year and beyond, maybe there is some hope for that franchise.


Well, what does Phoenix having going for it? The Sun Devils are universally awful at everything, the Cardinals didn't get Peyton Manning, the Dbacks are alright I guess, and the Suns suck.
 
2012-05-15 10:38:32 AM
Coyote hate gone wild all up in this thread.
 
2012-05-15 10:40:32 AM

Rev.K: Ok, great that the NHL is making waves with television ratings....

BUT

Afternoon playoff games suck. And there have been far too many of them this year.

A couple of Saturdays ago the only game that day was Rangers/Capitals and it started at 10:30am local time.

F*ck that. It should have been an evening game.


If we have to deal with games going past our midnight, then our Western friends can deal with a few games starting in their morning.
 
2012-05-15 10:41:15 AM
I for one would enjoy seeing Phoenix get the cup. Mostly for the lulz.

/It's not going to happen, LA might be unstoppable at this time
//my team has been out a while
 
2012-05-15 10:43:50 AM

FreakinB: If we have to deal with games going past our midnight, then our Western friends can deal with a few games starting in their morning.


Yeah, so sorry you had to be up by 10:30 on a weekend. That's such a hassle, much more so than staying up until 1am on a weeknight if we want to watch a late game.
 
2012-05-15 10:46:50 AM
So 3 people turned in?
 
2012-05-15 10:51:12 AM
If the Kings and the Rangers play in the finals, it will be the hardest possible road (1, 2, 3, 1) vs. the easiest possible road (8, 7, 6, 8)
 
2012-05-15 11:01:55 AM

ElwoodCuse: If the Kings and the Rangers play in the finals, it will be the hardest possible road (1, 2, 3, 1) vs. the easiest possible road (8, 7, 6, 8)


That's why I think I'm rooting for the Rangers in the East. I dislike them, and am still sick of the Devils from a decade ago, so it is hard to pick one. But the possibility of that LA/NY match-up intrigues me. Not because of the markets involved, but for the reasons you state. It'd make the Kings victory I'm hoping for all that much better.

At any rate, whoever makes it to the SCF, I'm pulling for the West. Just a much better storyline. First-time Cup, overcoming adversity, being the Phoenix Coyotes. Whatever.
 
2012-05-15 11:07:56 AM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: If we have to deal with games going past our midnight, then our Western friends can deal with a few games starting in their morning.

Yeah, so sorry you had to be up by 10:30 on a weekend. That's such a hassle, much more so than staying up until 1am on a weeknight if we want to watch a late game.


Hahaha, Midwest for the win!!!! But really, I thought the weekend afternoon games should have been around 2-3pm. If I were a player I wouldn't like playing that early. I wonder what the ratings were like for that game.
 
2012-05-15 11:09:03 AM

Yanks_RSJ: FreakinB: If we have to deal with games going past our midnight, then our Western friends can deal with a few games starting in their morning.

Yeah, so sorry you had to be up by 10:30 on a weekend. That's such a hassle, much more so than staying up until 1am on a weeknight if we want to watch a late game.


No shiat. I was so hungover and groggy watching that LA/Nucks series. Though I won't biatch, it was good lulz.
 
2012-05-15 11:14:54 AM
Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...
 
2012-05-15 11:17:24 AM

whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...


I don't recall seeing the Kings on FSN at all during the playoffs, but I could be blind.
 
2012-05-15 11:22:07 AM

bhcompy: whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...

I don't recall seeing the Kings on FSN at all during the playoffs, but I could be blind.


I know the Panthers weren't on Sun Sports or FSNFL, they were too busy showing the Marlins and the Rays.

Still got to see the games on NHLN though.
 
2012-05-15 11:30:33 AM
I just got cable with the sports package

Doc Daneeka: The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.


THIS

Just got cable with a sports package a few weeks ago.
NBC is doing a fine job presenting the games.
 
2012-05-15 11:30:54 AM

ElwoodCuse: If the Kings and the Rangers play in the finals, it will be the hardest possible road (1, 2, 3, 1) vs. the easiest possible road (8, 7, 6, 8)


Yeah. Which is the right the Rangers would have earned over 7 months in the regular season.
 
2012-05-15 11:34:33 AM

fatalvenom: bhcompy: whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...

I don't recall seeing the Kings on FSN at all during the playoffs, but I could be blind.

I know the Panthers weren't on Sun Sports or FSNFL, they were too busy showing the Marlins and the Rays.

Still got to see the games on NHLN though.


I know that the MSG Networks were showing first-round Devils and Rangers playoff games but I'm not sure if they had any in the 2nd round. I'd go NBCS for Emrick anyway. Though not over the Islanders' guys if we actually, you know, made the playoffs.
 
2012-05-15 11:47:01 AM

whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...


CSN California (or CSN Bay Area, I can never remember which is which) had Sharks games in the first round.
 
2012-05-15 11:58:44 AM

Rev.K: A couple of Saturdays ago the only game that day was Rangers/Capitals and it started at 10:30am local time.

F*ck that. It should have been an evening game.


Americans seem to think it's necessary to watch a bunch of drunk people in silly hats watch a bunch horses run in a circle. At least they didn't cut the game short this year.
 
2012-05-15 12:00:33 PM

whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...


Only the first round. NBC has the exclusive for everything from round two through the Finals.
 
2012-05-15 12:05:19 PM
It was finally nice to see some good coverage by a network. NBC has done a good job with it.
 
2012-05-15 12:07:14 PM

Primitive Screwhead: I just got cable with the sports packageDoc Daneeka: The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.

THIS

Just got cable with a sports package a few weeks ago.
NBC is doing a fine job presenting the games.


Well about that: it's fine, but when they simulcast CBC's presentation, it's at a higher level than NBC's.
 
2012-05-15 12:12:37 PM

FreakinB: fatalvenom: bhcompy: whipbambucket: Don't the regional sports networks still have coverage in the first two rounds? I wonder how many viewers that adds...

I don't recall seeing the Kings on FSN at all during the playoffs, but I could be blind.

I know the Panthers weren't on Sun Sports or FSNFL, they were too busy showing the Marlins and the Rays.

Still got to see the games on NHLN though.

I know that the MSG Networks were showing first-round Devils and Rangers playoff games but I'm not sure if they had any in the 2nd round. I'd go NBCS for Emrick anyway. Though not over the Islanders' guys if we actually, you know, made the playoffs.


That guy is one of the best sports announcers anywhere. He is the exact opposite of John Madden. Actually, NBC's entire main announcing crew is really good.
 
2012-05-15 12:29:01 PM

Vanquish: That guy is one of the best sports announcers anywhere. He is the exact opposite of John Madden. Actually, NBC's entire main announcing crew is really good.


Emrick screws up names much more than he used to. I've noticed during Rangers games that anybody with a "2" in their number is essentially interchangeable to him. Hagelin, Anisimov, Boyle, Kreider and Fedotenko are apparently indistinguishable.
 
2012-05-15 12:29:54 PM

Vanquish: That guy is one of the best sports announcers anywhere. He is the exact opposite of John Madden. Actually, NBC's entire main announcing crew is really good.


I am never going to understand this. I can think of half a dozen announcers I'd choose over Emerick, easily.

NBC's on-air staff sucks. There's no insight in what they say, they get fixated on one thing and beat it to death over the course of a game (how many times did they mention Mike Richards' Gordie Howe hat trick last week?) and half the time they're too busy telling random stories to talk about what's actually going on on the ice.

I'm starting to think that anyone who thinks NBC's announcers are good has never seen an announcer who actually is good. I'd take CBC's staff over NBC's any day, and always do when I have the option.
 
2012-05-15 12:30:08 PM

Doc Daneeka: The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.


I just wish NBC would do more Saturday or Sunday double-headers, especially after football season is over. Instead, you get a very early hockey game and then... golf. Ugh.
 
2012-05-15 12:31:26 PM

Yanks_RSJ: Emrick screws up names much more than he used to. I've noticed during Rangers games that anybody with a "2" in their number is essentially interchangeable to him. Hagelin, Anisimov, Boyle, Kreider and Fedotenko are apparently indistinguishable.


NBC also has this annoying habit of consistently mispronouncing player names. You've been covering the Wings for five or six years now. It's Lidstrom, not Lindstrom, and is it really that hard to say Franzen correctly? Not like they're star players or anything...
 
2012-05-15 12:34:27 PM

germ78: I just wish NBC would do more Saturday or Sunday double-headers, especially after football season is over. Instead, you get a very early hockey game and then... golf. Ugh.


Well, yeah, except golf broadcasts make a shiatload of money for the network. Those 3-4 hours on weekend afternoons are guaranteed to bring in advertisers for luxury cars and expensive golf equipment.
 
2012-05-15 12:40:47 PM

IMDWalrus: I'm starting to think that anyone who thinks NBC's announcers are good has never seen an announcer who actually is good.


Realistically, it's always this way. Bob Miller should be calling these Kings games, just like Ralph Lawler should be calling the Clippers right now and Vin Scully should call the Dodgers in the playoffs. It's criminal that we have to listen to putzes like Mike Emirck and Joe Buck when there are real hall of fame play by play guys under contract with the team for decades that are forced to sit on the sidelines during the most important games for the team
 
2012-05-15 12:41:57 PM
The confernece finals currently involve New York and Los Angeles, which are the two largest TV markets in the United States. People jumping on a band wagon are going to move the needle when the potential size of the band wagon is that large.

END COMMUNICATION
 
2012-05-15 12:45:11 PM

Doc Daneeka: The NBC family of networks has done a really nice job with coverage.

People scoffed when the NHL went to NBC and OLN following the lockout, but it's panned out well.

I hope the NHL never goes back to ESPN, frankly.


Agreed: I was really worried when NBC/Universal got the TV contract over ESPN. But I like what they're doing coverage-wise and the availability of almost every game.

Because if ESPN had the contract I'm sure they'd have no problem breaking in to a Stanley Cup series game 7 to give constant updates of when Tim Tebow has a bad case of gas.
 
2012-05-15 12:50:15 PM
On hockey announcers:

Gary Thorne...bring him back to hockey

That is all
 
2012-05-15 12:54:00 PM

bhcompy: IMDWalrus: I'm starting to think that anyone who thinks NBC's announcers are good has never seen an announcer who actually is good.

Realistically, it's always this way. Bob Miller should be calling these Kings games, just like Ralph Lawler should be calling the Clippers right now and Vin Scully should call the Dodgers in the playoffs. It's criminal that we have to listen to putzes like Mike Emirck and Joe Buck when there are real hall of fame play by play guys under contract with the team for decades that are forced to sit on the sidelines during the most important games for the team


So much this

/Win one for Bob
//Win one more for Vin
 
2012-05-15 12:56:11 PM

bhcompy: Realistically, it's always this way. Bob Miller should be calling these Kings games, just like Ralph Lawler should be calling the Clippers right now and Vin Scully should call the Dodgers in the playoffs. It's criminal that we have to listen to putzes like Mike Emirck and Joe Buck when there are real hall of fame play by play guys under contract with the team for decades that are forced to sit on the sidelines during the most important games for the team


The problem is there's no possible way that NBC could get away with that, because of the appearance of bias. You can't hire one of the remaining teams to cover the games when they're broadcast nationally. They could maybe get away with that if they brought in some of Phoenix's commentators too, and that could be a lot of fun to watch.

What I would approve of would be bringing in some of the other announcers who aren't working right now. Ken Daniels does a great job with the Wings and has done a handful of national games for NBC before - why not let him do the call? What about the guys who cover the Panthers, or Penguins, or the Wild? We've got 26 teams out of the playoffs now. We could do so much better than Doc Emerick and Pierre McGuire.
 
2012-05-15 12:59:28 PM

IMDWalrus: and is it really that hard to say Franzen correctly?


Nobody in North America says his name correctly.
 
2012-05-15 01:00:17 PM
I guess I'm in the minority in liking Emrick. Oh well.

I'm a big fan of Howie Rose though. I'd say I'd like to see him get brought in for the playoffs but he's too busy doing radio for the Mets.
 
2012-05-15 01:07:09 PM

IMDWalrus: bhcompy: Realistically, it's always this way. Bob Miller should be calling these Kings games, just like Ralph Lawler should be calling the Clippers right now and Vin Scully should call the Dodgers in the playoffs. It's criminal that we have to listen to putzes like Mike Emirck and Joe Buck when there are real hall of fame play by play guys under contract with the team for decades that are forced to sit on the sidelines during the most important games for the team

The problem is there's no possible way that NBC could get away with that, because of the appearance of bias. You can't hire one of the remaining teams to cover the games when they're broadcast nationally. They could maybe get away with that if they brought in some of Phoenix's commentators too, and that could be a lot of fun to watch.

What I would approve of would be bringing in some of the other announcers who aren't working right now. Ken Daniels does a great job with the Wings and has done a handful of national games for NBC before - why not let him do the call? What about the guys who cover the Panthers, or Penguins, or the Wild? We've got 26 teams out of the playoffs now. We could do so much better than Doc Emerick and Pierre McGuire.


Hell, let the local region have their guys and the rest of the people have the national broadcast or a choice(multicast it on cnbc and versus or whatever and let us pick)
 
2012-05-15 01:11:09 PM

bhcompy: Hell, let the local region have their guys and the rest of the people have the national broadcast or a choice(multicast it on cnbc and versus or whatever and let us pick)


That would work too. Or NBC could use the SAP feature all of our TVs still have and let you swap commentators.

I'm fully aware that all of this is a pipe dream, but after Game 3 of the WCF I'll get all of the remaining games on CBC for the rest of the playoffs, so I can't complain then.
 
2012-05-15 01:19:02 PM

bhcompy: Hell, let the local region have their guys and the rest of the people have the national broadcast or a choice(multicast it on cnbc and versus or whatever and let us pick)


No offense, but neither idea makes sense for the broadcast rights holder.

1) Letting the "local region have their guys" takes a huge chunk out of NBC's potential audience. You think NBC wants to lose the entire NY/NJ audience to MSG?

2) Simulcasting on two channels with the same commercial inventory is a massive waste of money. You're splitting your audience and preventing the second channel from selling ads for different programming.
 
2012-05-15 01:34:35 PM
LOL - one million viewers? Call me when they beat the NBA. Up and coming league? Sure lol.
 
2012-05-15 01:35:08 PM

IMDWalrus: bhcompy: Realistically, it's always this way. Bob Miller should be calling these Kings games, just like Ralph Lawler should be calling the Clippers right now and Vin Scully should call the Dodgers in the playoffs. It's criminal that we have to listen to putzes like Mike Emirck and Joe Buck when there are real hall of fame play by play guys under contract with the team for decades that are forced to sit on the sidelines during the most important games for the team

The problem is there's no possible way that NBC could get away with that, because of the appearance of bias. You can't hire one of the remaining teams to cover the games when they're broadcast nationally. They could maybe get away with that if they brought in some of Phoenix's commentators too, and that could be a lot of fun to watch.

What I would approve of would be bringing in some of the other announcers who aren't working right now. Ken Daniels does a great job with the Wings and has done a handful of national games for NBC before - why not let him do the call? What about the guys who cover the Panthers, or Penguins, or the Wild? We've got 26 teams out of the playoffs now. We could do so much better than Doc Emerick and Pierre McGuire.


Just have the home team announcers do the national broadcast. Although some teams have huge homers for their announcers, they usually are better than anything NBC has been able to put on.
 
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